332: Cancer is Curable Now

With the explosion of cancer, more people are looking for alternative treatments. Today I welcome Marcus Freudenmann, who is the producer of the documentary Cancer is Curable Now, and the founder of his Truly Heal program.

Marcus has been researching effective cancer therapies for many years, and in this episode we'll discuss the most effective alternative treatments, and how you can even do them at home. We'll take a deep dive into these therapies and why I believe they are so needed.

More about Marcus Freudenmann:

Marcus Freudenmann is the Producer of the documentary Cancer is Curable Now and the directors cut Truly Heal from Cancer, and director of the Truly Heal Academy.

Marcus has dedicated his life to educating the public on how to perform therapies, which are proven to work in many international clinics and at home, saving patients money. Marcus travels regularly around the world determined to provoke change by educating on cause finding and alternative cancer therapies.

Marcus offers Functional Medicine Health Coach education and support to thousands in the form of newsletters, webinars, courses and videos including the education of Ozone, PEMF and Hyperthermia treatments.

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Dr. Pompa:
With the explosion of cancer, look, more and more people are looking for alternative treatments. They go to a clinic. Maybe it’s a cancer clinic in Europe. Maybe it’s in Mexico or even here in the United States and they get hit with a $40,000, $50,000 bill to do certain treatments. Ozone treatments, PEMF treatments, maybe other energy treatments and hyperthermia. Look, in this episode, we are going to discuss these treatments but most importantly, how you can actually do them at home and perhaps avoid the big bill. We’re going to take a deep dive into these therapies and go beyond even cancer of why these therapies are something that I believe today are very needed. We’re going to give you how to at home, so check it out.

Ashley:
Everyone, welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m Ashley Smith and today, we welcome Marcus Freudenmann, who is the founder of Truly Heal and the producer of the documentary, Cancer is Curable Now. Marcus has been researching effective cancer therapies for many years. Since we love inviting people on to the show who could show us a new way to approach things, I cannot wait for this interview. Let’s get started and welcome Marcus Freudenmann and of course, Dr. Pompa to the show. Welcome both of you.

Marcus:
Thanks for having us or having me.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. Hey, she welcomes me as well. Marcus, this is a great topic. I want you to tell your story in a moment of how you ended up here with such an important topic. Let me start by saying this. Right now, there’s a growing number of people looking for cancer alternative therapies whether it’s with chemo, without, whatever it is. They go to a clinic. I know many of them. I’ve visited many of them looking at what they’re doing. I can tell you that it is the same when you go to these clinics. There’s ozone therapies, hyperthermia, maybe some hyperbaric. There’s IV therapies. There’s maybe some peptide therapies but the point is that, they’re doing a lot of the same therapies. That could run you 50,000 bucks.

You, I believe, happened upon that and says, gosh, how can we create this in the privacy of our own home. More importantly, keep it within our pocketbook. That’s what this show is about. How many of us know people with cancer? Again, you and I have both been to these huge cancer clinics and we see that these are the things that they’re doing. I think most people would say, yes, I have to pay for it because I can’t do these at home. You’ve proven otherwise. Marcus, that’s the topic of the show but how did you get into this. Start with your story.

Marcus:
A friend of mine was diagnosed with cancer and it was quite a shocking experience. For the first time, I was like, I’m an architect. I’m an interior designer. I’m a visualization artist. I’ve done so many things, nothing with health. When we were faced with it, I thought, well, let’s just find a solution and I realized how arrogant that was at that early stage because you run out and you think you can conquer the world and it’s a lot harder than you think. It’s very humbling. We started to go for alternative treatments parallel to what the oncologist wanted. The oncologist was not cooperative at all. He was very, very aggressive in trying to push us into chemo. I always said, let’s wait, let’s wait.

Then Sabrina, my wife, who’s a naturopath, so she picked up some tests and that’s when we figured out that all detox pathways didn’t work. That she had a huge liver impairment that didn’t eliminate toxins. We started out with flushing and with coffee enemas and the normal thing that you try to get rid of toxins. It started to work but the pressure of the oncologist was so immense that Janet budged. For those of you who don’t know, when you have DNA impairments and certain detox pathways in your body don’t work properly, and I’m not saying they don’t work. They just indicated in their test that they have impairments. Maybe work with 30% or 40% and she had all of them in red.

That means, as soon as they introduce chemotherapy, then it just doesn’t detoxify. It stays in the system. It re-circles. It becomes more and more toxic because in the liver in phase 1 which was working but phase 2 wasn’t, it just was made water soluble even extra toxic and then she passed away from the second treatment. When you realize something like that, it’s scary. You see that even though you had the test results—and I was banned from the clinic, the oncologist kept me out. He said, “You’re no longer welcome in here.” That cause then an emotional reaction and that I guess was my big kick into getting started with that subject.

Not giving up, finding a solution, and yeah, we had interviewed a total of 150 doctors around the world. I packed up my family into a suitcase and then, we traveled, four kids and my wife for three and a half years around the world. From clinic to clinic to doctor to doctor in India, in Japan, in all of Thailand, all of the Asian countries, all of Europe, Mexico, Canada, and America. It was mind-bending because when you first of all see different countries, different cultures, how they approach the disease, and then, you see the philosophy coming from it because at first, I had no philosophy. It was a disease in the body that we had to eradicate.

I’ll never forget an interview with Dr. [00:06:47] he said to me, “Marcus, you’re asking really stupid questions. Who cares about all those treatments? Don’t think treatments, think what is wrong with the patient?” I said, “Well, she has cancer.” He said, “No, that’s just the symptom. What is wrong?” You know how difficult it is when you have a concept in your mind to change that and actually get—it was not easy. I always kept falling back into my old line of questions and I was with him four weeks to shadow and to—and I think after week two, it clicked and I realized really that I was focusing on the wrong thing.

There’s a beautiful example that he showed me. He pulled out three charts and he said, “Look, all three, breast cancer. All three same style, breast cancer, same aggression, everything.” He said, “Now look at patient number one.” Then he went through and it was actually abuse, it was self-loathing, bad diet, high inflammation, very, very leaky gut. The whole complex of somebody that neglects themselves. Another one had EBD combined with Lyme disease combined with mold. Totally sufficient as a cause. The next one had electrical sensitivity, mercury fillings [00:08:17] with root canal filled and then, detox pathways [00:08:21]. He said, “Three breast cancers, three causes that are completely different and if you look at the treatments that we need to do for patients, they are different too.” What does that tell you? I was like, “Okay, I get it. I get it. I get it.” We need to find the cause.

Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely and that’s my philosophy. We make the same mistake oftentimes in alternative medicine as we do regular medicine. We’re looking for natural treatments. That was ingrained in you. We want to kill cancer, kill the cell, kill the cell. It’s all fine and good. We know the stories. They go in, they get chemo, some napalm, kill the cells, kill a lot of good ones too. 10 years later, they end up with another cancer. I’ve watched that happen. Oh, and they’re considered a cure by the way. The mistake was not removing the cause. Also, I want to reiterate something you said that’s very important. I talk about a perfect storm. I still coach people from around the world with unexplainable conditions and illnesses.

I’ll tell you, it’s always the same thing. It’s three stressors that come together. Physical, chemical or emotional, it doesn’t matter. It could be mercury, mold and emotional trauma. It could be emotional trauma, it doesn’t matter. It’s typically three that come together and then, it triggers genes and we have dysfunction. You’ve described that. That’s a page right out of my book. This perfect storm does in fact come together. If you don’t address these storms and the causative factors, then you’re never going to get—I mean, again, you might have a temporary solution but you’re going to end up with a new problem later. You traveled around these clinics. My question was going to be, what did you learn? You learned that. What else did you learn?

Marcus:
We made the documentary in the end. It was like something that just grew. I had so much footage.

Dr. Pompa:
Where can we see the documentary? We’ll put the link up here.

Marcus:
trulyheal.com/cellularhealing. I made a special page for you where the video is, where the documentary is, where you have a six-part video training. That shows functional medicine in action. It’s really beautiful. We’ve put that together because we had so many cancer patients ask, Marcus, what do I do? You explained so many different things. Do I need to look after my teeth? Do I look at my DNA? What is my liver impairment? They get overwhelmed. We made the six-part video training that takes them very gently through different aspects that need to be looked at.

If they come to trulyheal.com/cellularhealing, then that’s where they can find. When you look at documentary, you realize it still deals with a lot of treatments because somehow the cause because it’s really different for every patient is woven in between. What we do is with our functional medicine training, we look at how we find the cause. That’s why I’ve combined those two on the page, so it just makes sense. What you started out with, it’s true, and we all know that. You go for your treatment and it costs you a fortune. Then they tell you, would you mind to come back in half a year. We need to do a refresh and another 20,000 and another 30,000. It just keeps going.

I’m was doing a lot of—how do you call it? Consultation first time. Which clinic do I recommend? Where would I go? What would suit you best? After a certain time, people called me and said, Marcus, I can’t afford that. It’s not possible. What do we do? I’ve been always a mini inventor, somebody that just doesn’t give up. The biggest treatment that I fell in love with because it had the biggest effect on all clients that we send there was in my opinion fever, fever therapy, hyperthermia. It was so significant. Everybody who started going through that treatment had such a massive effect. You go three weeks to a clinic. You have three treatments, one a week. That’s not enough.

It requires a lot more repetitions and that’s why the doctors told you, well, do the treatment repeatedly, come back now and then just to have another fever therapy because it just activates your white blood cells. It boosts your immune system. It detoxifies. It’s phenomenal. Most people don’t do that because it’s overseas. In America, it’s very few. It just ends up that short-term boost and you can see that. They come home to the clinic, the health goes up, and then, they stay a little while in the top. Then they go back home and everything falls back into the old ways. Then they come back and it goes back down. I said, how do we do that? That we can stay healthy at home and continue those treatments. That’s pretty much what we’ve been working with thousands of patients around the world to train them how to do those treatments at home.

Dr. Pompa:
All right. Let’s talk about it, hyperthermia. How do we do it at home? Describe what it is. I mean, you and I are using that word but most people are like, what do you mean? Yeah, they don’t even—hyperthermia. We’re getting someone body temperature just like your innate intelligence would do for a virus or bacteria. Raise the body temperature up to beat off the bacteria or virus. You’re creating that same situation using some heating things. How do we do it at home?

Marcus:
There’s different ways. For those people who can’t afford anything, but have a bathtub at home, they can do it in the bathtub. They would fill with water, as hot as they can get in and submerge completely. Then they turn on the hot water. They have to have a very good thermometer to check the temperature. They bring that up until they hit about 38.5, 39 which is what I call the trigger point where the body goes into own fever [00:14:52].

Dr. Pompa:
What is that Fahrenheit?

Marcus:
101.3, I think, 101.5 is what we—normally, we do the same thing. We use a hyperthermia dome. It’s a far-infrared dome and we’ve modified that because the normal sauna domes, when you go in, they don’t get you into fever or it takes one and a half hours and that’s way too long. We checked [00:15:20] beds in Germany and the Heckel beds.

Dr. Pompa:
What are they?

Marcus:
They are commercially used fever beds in Germany. The [00:15:33] bed is—it is used in university clinics. It has those water-cooled, far-infrared systems. It’s a million dollar that device. If you buy a Heckel bed, it’s about $30,000, $40,000 for device. I went with my little dome and we measured the frequency of the far-infrared and adjusted that exactly the same and increased the power of the heaters a little bit. Then we had the same result. We used a sonar dome. Those domes where you lay in.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I have one.

Marcus:
Within 20 minutes, you have 101.3, 101.5. It really goes just equally fast as these commercial beds. That was something I started out with. I had nine domes until we got to the right one. We started to give them out for people to see the effects and to see the result. We have a health coaching platform where we have a lot of health coaches and professionals. I always ride out to that community and say, would you mind testing and then, give me feedback. It was really working out. We had the dome and that’s what we started then with a rectal thermometer that you can see body core temperature and follow through. We’ve designed a complete training on how to do it at home. A checklist with 20 points to go through step-by-step how to set it up. How to replenish electrolytes. How to do an IV beforehand like the whole thing. You replicate a medical treatment at home and it’s fantastic.

Dr. Pompa:
Just to be clear, that 101.3 Fahrenheit body temperature, that’s a body temperature, not the air temperature or water temperature?

Marcus:
That’s body core temperature. With the rectal probe, you’d know exactly. You reach the curve. It shows you the curve. How you get up there. The nice thing is, when you do it the first time and you pull the plug from the wall, let’s say at 101.3 and that’s just for us that kick point where actually your normal immune system should start on its own. The first time, you might just drop down again and fever vanishes. When you do it the second time, you might hold that fever for a while. The third time, it’s like the body says, oh, that’s what I was supposed to do when I was a child. I had fever. Many cancer patients when you remember back, they can’t even remember when they had last fever.

What we do here is we introduce the treatment, two, three, four times until the body kicks in. Most patients, after the second, third time, go up to 104, 105 and that’s not induced. That’s just kickstarted with the dome and then, the body does the rest. The results are just phenomenal.

Dr. Pompa:
How long do you want to keep the body producing that temperature? How long?

Marcus:
All studies show that it’s required to have at least half an hour to an hour. Minimum half an hour but it—when you see so many clinics and so many different concepts on how they do it, I found the nicest was to bring you up to fever, let the body go up as high as it wants, but then, wrap the body in wool sheets. We use even the thermal sheet to pack around so that you stay like a baked potato in the silver foil. You will likely cook happily ahead. You try to keep the fever for at least an hour, hour and a half. If you need to go to toilet, you use a bottle or a bed pan. There’s ways to solve that or even with diapers so that you don’t drop out of the heat because that’s just interrupts the treatment.

You know what happens when you have high fever. It’s like in your bone marrow, there is those mini soldiers. I always see it like in those science fiction movies. All those Army soldiers sitting on a long string and then, as soon as the temperature goes up, they are released and flushed out into the bloodstream. I’ve seen it so many times. It’s actually done in Munich, in Frankfurt, in all the university clinics. When the patient has chemotherapy and the white blood cell count goes down, they take them into hyperthermia which releases white blood cells from the bone marrow and then, they can continue the treatment. Even if you combine the two, it’s absolutely favorable. It also reduces all the side effects of chemotherapy.

For many patients who say, well, I can’t deny my oncologist, but I would like to do something to reduce side effects, to increase the efficiency. Many clinics use one-third or half the amount of chemotherapy in order to compensate with hypothermia because it just balances out. There’s so many different ways and I say it’s not exclusive, only hyperthermia. You can combine it with high-dose vitamin C, with artemisinin or mistletoe. There’s so many different ways to enhance its effects or even chemotherapy. Then just add it as an additional function and it’s powerful.

Dr. Pompa:
Marcus, I think most people would say, how does this differ from just getting in my sauna?

Marcus:
Oh, you don’t get with your normal sauna into that fever, into that high fever. It’s just not possible. I’ve tried it many times. We have a sauna. We have a small sauna that is very closed-in so I thought maybe that one does it. I’ll never reach that moment where my fever kicks in and I guess, it’s just the distance. We had to go from 800 watts to almost 2,000 watts from sauna to hyperthermia dome to have that effect.

Dr. Pompa:
If someone’s at home, where do they purchase something like this? I mean, these home units that would do better than their sauna. Sunlighten has the dome. I actually have one of those. I mean, because you’re closed, is that what you can use?

Marcus:
It could work. You need to try it. I always say because I’ve bought all. I have the Sunlighten. I have a Clearlight. I have all of those domes at home and I tested them. The problem is, when you go in and you have your rectal probe, you see how long it takes until you get to that 101.3. To get there is as fast as possible because you don’t want to lay in there for a long time and slowly heat up because then you run out of time or patience. It’s actually exhausting too.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it is.

Marcus:
The faster you go up the better it is. That’s why we’ve increased—we don’t sell the dome outright. We don’t have it as a sales item. I want people to go first through our training program. When they sign up on the website, they will get an information about the dome and about the training because we are dealing here borderline medical home use, sauna. It’s a mixed—it’s not clear-cut legal as I would say because we don’t want to get in trouble. We teach people first how to use it. They see the treatment. I do the treatment myself. My wife does it. We have about 10 clients that do the treatment.

As you see, how we deal with high fever spikes—I had a client with multiple myeloma going in. Within 15 minutes, he was at 40, what is that? 106, 107, that’s high fever. He was up there and holding it for two days. Afterwards, his cancer started to shrink and go away. It was a viral infection that he had including bacterial infection. He had been traveling around the world. His whole body was full with different viral infections. When he started to get rid of those due to the fever, all of a sudden, everything disappeared. That’s scary. As someone who doesn’t know how to handle fever, we did those calf wraps. Wrapping cold vinegar cloth around the calves to pull out the heat.

At a certain stage, we actually administered an enema because it pulls out the heat from the body to bring him back. He was really burning, but it solved the problem. In that regard, I’ve done the training quite well. We cover all those issues. We cover what you do when the fever goes too high and before we sell the dome.

Dr. Pompa:
How much is the training course?

Marcus:
Free. I don’t charge for education.

Dr. Pompa:
Actually, we’ll put the link in here again, but—

Marcus:
I’ll put the link into that cellular healing page and do underneath three buttons with ozone, hyperthermia and PEMF so that your clients can actually learn how to do that.

Dr. Pompa:
All right. There’s a learning process. I mean, if they purchased this thing to help them heat up, how much is that?

Marcus:
I think it’s $3,000.

Dr. Pompa:
Okay, all right because if you’re trying to heat—

Marcus:
If you go [00:25:31] thousand dollars for one treatment.

Dr. Pompa:
Could they get into a—like you said, they have to get the bathtub up as hot as they can otherwise, but then, again, how long? What’s that?

Marcus:
Bathtub is difficult. Water is far more exhausting than far-infrared. It’s draining.

Dr. Pompa:
It really is. That’s the thing, a lot of sick people can’t handle that. They just get wiped out. The infrared is the way to go, but to your point, the sauna just doesn’t heat up enough because it’s maybe too far away as you’re saying. There’s a way to do this. That’s it. Now, let’s move into ozone. I’ve done some shows on ozone. I do ozone at home. Again, most cancer clinics, you’re right, they do hyperthermia. They do ozone. They do PEMF which we’ll talk about next. Talk about some of the ozone. What did you learn here?

Marcus:
Can I just do one more thing about hypothermia because I think that’s the best effect especially in modern times right now, in the time we are now. I’m not mentioning the virus. I’m not mentioning anything because we’ve been taken down all videos.

Dr. Pompa:
I know. I know. It’s true.

Marcus:
Everybody who knows, it’s the present condition that we are suffering and it’s a viral infection. There is a beautiful effect as soon as your body core temperature goes up. Let’s say 39. I would need to—I’ll do the calculation in a moment or maybe you can do it in the meantime. As soon as your temperature goes up, 38.5, 39, the viral RNA that goes into the cell and copies the amino acids into clones doesn’t work at that temperature. When you have a viral infection from 38.5, 39 Celsius, it stops reproducing the virus. It’s like a complete standstill of [00:27:46].

Dr. Pompa:
That’s why your body runs up a temperature when you have a virus, to stop it.

Marcus:
Exactly. The second factor is, at that stage, at that temperature, they get heat shock proteins and I describe that always they get green hair. Now, your immune cells which is set before all those soldiers in the bone marrow have been flushed out into the body due to the cytokine communication. They get now the information, who needs to be killed? All the guys with green hair and they start cleaning up and wash out. Maybe it’s not the fever that kills the virus or the bacterium or the cancer cell.

The secondary factor of the heat shock proteins is actually long lasting and that’s why all doctors say, one treatment a week and you do that regularly once a week. The effects last for over two weeks. If you do once a week, you build up more and more and more and you bring yourself back to health. I’ve done it for HIV, for hepatitis C, for EBB, for any kind of viral infection. You will see a change within two weeks, three weeks like day and night.

Dr. Pompa:
Wow, that’s great.

Marcus:
I just had to mention that.

Dr. Pompa:
Great strategy by the way for any virus for that matter. Okay. Now, ozone. What did you learn about ozone?

Marcus:
Ozone is well researched in Germany. I spoke with many clinics and they said, look Marcus, we went with ozone and then, there was like the same wave as everywhere around the world. It was banned here in Australia. New Zealand wasn’t allowed. In America, it’s very limited. It was the same attempt in Germany. Some of those private clinics said, we stopped using it because we were asked to stop and because of legal problems and [00:29:51]. Our success rate went down dramatically. We can see that the overall success rate—we deal with let’s say 500 patients a year or 1,000 patients a year depending on the size of the clinic. When we stopped using ozone, our results went down.

Most of them reintroduced it. At first, it’s a treatment that doesn’t show any effects when you do it. I had myself. I had a multi-pass. I had a major autohemotherapy. I didn’t feel different from before until after. I thought, oh, it’s not worth putting it into the documentary. Then two doctors called and said, Marcus, why did we show you all of ozone. You missed one of the most important treatments in your documentary. I said, okay, I’ll re-edit it and put it in. That was in early stages, but I didn’t understand it. Then we had exactly the same thing. Viral infections, bacterial infections, Lyme disease. It’s one of the main protocols and it’s not because it kills bacteria, fungi or anything. It’s because of the oxygenation of the body. Until that was in my head and I really understood the principle.

The main effect is that your red blood cells are—they have how long,128 days, they live. When you stop using ozone and you do it the first few times, you trigger a production of new red blood cells in the bone marrow which have a completely different capacity to take on oxygen and release oxygen. They just release it much faster and they have a lot more charge to pull it through two membranes, the lung membrane and the blood vessel membrane into the hemoglobin. It’s a lot of charge that is required to bind the oxygen from your lung into the cells. When you do that and you start building up with ozone—and that’s why it’s usually a two-week, three-week, four-week treatment protocol in rectal insufflation or IV.

Then it’s like metastasis, angiogenesis, all of that is stopped because your body has enough oxygen. We all know that your immune system, your white blood cell needs the respiratory first, chasing bacteria, running after the thief and then killing it. The oxidative burst to build hydrogen peroxide and to kill the bacterium. That’s where they need a hundred times more oxygen than they normally do in a relaxed state and that just made it so clear why we have to build up. Yes, hyperbaric oxygen puts the oxygen there, but it’s still the release, the catch and release, the supply for the tissue is a lot slower. That’s why it was so cool to see that ozone really just brings that effect into a patient’s life and the long-term results are just increasing.

Dr. Pompa:
I’ve done 10 passes, ozone dialysis and saline ozone and I do it in my home. I do rectal ozone. How does someone do this at home. I personally do rectal ozone. Is that what you’re recommending or something else?

Marcus:
No, no, no, rectal, rectal. I’m not allowed. We’re not clinics, not doctors, so no needles, no nothing. That is invasive. It’s invasive enough. We teach all the different techniques on ozone use for sinus. Sinus treatments, oil bubbling, ear insufflations, rectal insufflations, vaginal insufflations, [00:33:54]. We have a complete training on all the different applications, on how to do them. Then we have combination. If you have for example, Lyme disease or Epstein-Barr virus or what combination of different supplements, different treatments and ozone treatment. How to combine them. Then every page contains all the research studies that I’ve done about this subject or the fever and [00:34:22] charts.

Probably, you’re familiar with [00:34:25]. She has done a lot of research on different strengths. If you have ulcerative colitis, leaky gut, IBS, how to treat rectal tumors with rectal insufflations, high concentration for three times and then going on low. I went through all the different concepts that different doctors do and put them on to a website where the complete training is there. You can use it and it’s free. If somebody decides to buy an ozone generator, we have a home model, a very simple one. I decided to go as easy as possible. High-tech machines up to $10,000 but for home use, that’s not relevant. We sell a bundle which has the glass [00:35:13]. the oil bubbling, all the tubes, all the valves, all the regulators, everything in it and even the ozone oils for topical application. That’s like a home pharmacy.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I love mine. I use it all the time. Okay, PEMF. Something else I have in my house. I love PEMF. Just reflect back on what it is. Why it’s useful for everything that we’re talking about and how you do it at home because these units are expensive.

Marcus:
[00:35:45], very expensive. I always call it the couch potato treatment. The lazy man’s treatment because you just sit in your lazy boy while watching TV and have a treatment. Compared to hyperthermia, it’s a—

Dr. Pompa:
It’s a breeze.

Marcus:
When you think about the toothbrush and they go, [00:36:06] and then, you put them into that little charger stand and they recharge even though there is no metal connecting metal. It’s an induced magnetic field that recharges the battery and then, after a while they work full [00:36:20] anymore. Same thing with ourselves. Magnetic fields recharge our cellular energy and if you have a disease and many can just follow through. If you have just a flu, your energy drops down because the body needs to deal with the virus or with the bacteria or with an inflammation. It just drains and drains and drains. Chronic disease over a long period of time, just makes you tired and exhausted.

Now you sit someone on PEMF and you pulse that energy field into the body and that gives them—I have one client. They have a retirement village and I brought it there. I said, “Well, test it out and let me know what you think.” They ordered 10 devices for all the different departments. I was very happy with that, but the nurses came to me when I give the training and they said, “Marcus, before we had aches and pains and tired and oh, and headache. Now we have parties in the corridor, nightly outings where people escape the compound and we have parties and sexual activity again. That’s a different side of problems that we need to deal with.” It was so sweet how she explained it, but it was like that rejuvenation. That energy that you get in the body. That’s phenomenal.

In Germany, they use it to weaken the tumor. They use those high intensive machines like the [00:37:55] or the PMT. They pulse the tumor, directly targeted because the cells of a tumor are very brittle. They don’t stand a lot of charge, that positive charge of the membrane so they disintegrate and fall apart. They do PEMF beforehand because it also increases the intake of whatever IV you do. PEMF first and then, IV therapy. Whether that’s chemotherapy or low-dose chemo or it’s a natural agent, it doesn’t matter. We use that PEMF beforehand to prime the oxygen uptake, to prime the blood intake and to energize the cells.

Dr. Pompa:
I use mine almost every day. There’s something called membrane potential. That potential, to your point is how you move things in and out of the cell. Toxins out, good stuff in. Sick cells, we should be around at least negative 70 in the lower because negative 50, negative 40 dysfunction, fatigue, brain fog, digestive issues. You get around under 20 and you’re not. You’re talking cancer cells. Up regulating that membrane potential. I love this technology. I invested in it. I have it in my house. People would not be able to have one of these. I mean, how do you recommend doing this at home?

Marcus:
It depends. Look, I always say, if someone can afford it, then perfect. If it causes too much stress to finance, then don’t. Then use hyperthermia or use ozone because ozone, the effect of that discharge of that simple molecule recharges the body as well. By doing ozone and drinking ozone water and having the rectal insufflation, you’re already bringing your body and you can see that membrane potential change in the same way. We always focus on, if stress becomes too big and too much money and too scary—

Dr. Pompa:
I agree.

Marcus:
Then that’s counter effective. I always say, let’s build up from your budget whatever you can afford to make it happen. If someone has the money to do a PEMF, there is nothing better than that. Elderly people who don’t do hyperthermia, who don’t have that drive to treatments or do rectal ozone, for them a PEMF is god given. It’s such a blessing. It’s such a power. We did a big test because we have such a large community from our health coaches and practitioners. We went and send always out. We do the chelation test or an OligoScan or we do hair mineral analysis test or leaky gut test or something like that all together. Then we do a treatment protocol for a certain time with something.

We decided to go for the black box. The Black Box from Quicksilver Scientific. It’s a detox box and we’ve checked our heavy metal beforehand. Everybody had a test and then, we went on to the Black Box with PEMF, 50 people and the other 50 without. Then we checked afterwards how much our detox had gone down and the PEMF group was just amazing, so much better detoxification. I guess it’s what you said. It’s that cell membrane potential just opening up all those iron, potassium, and whatever channels there are and releasing the toxins. It was just flushed outbound and then taken away, so really, really beautiful.

Dr. Pompa:
Imagine if you did it with the True Cellular Detox, my program. Far superior by the way.

Marcus:
You have to send me the information. We always test it out.

Dr. Pompa:
I’m going to leave Ashley to that because my work is really complete in this area. That’s why these things all work with my work. Look, these things are all great, but unless we up regulate self-function and utilize real chelators around it and binders and that’s what makes my work. This is 20 years of me teaching doctors around the world that concept.

Marcus:
Wow.

Dr. Pompa:
Most people, Marcus, do detox very incorrectly. Again, reiterating that here are treatments that we need to be doing while we’re looking up straight into the problems. It could be hidden infections. It could be [00:42:41] heavy metals from multiple sources. It could be mold exposures folks. Again, when I take someone and coach them, I’m looking when I coach doctors. I’m teaching them to look for those causative, hidden factors.

Then, when you put it with these types of treatments, to utilize, get the innate intelligence, immune system fighting with you. That’s what hyperthermia does. The ozone treatments to Marcus’s point. The PEMF. Now we’re going to be able to actually get the body to heal itself permanently. Doctors don’t heal but we work with the body to do so. You have to take away the interference. That’s the whole point of this.

Marcus:
If that’s not gone, it’s fighting upstream.

Dr. Pompa:
You might do these things and feel better but the problem is that you stop, you’re not going to be better and some is going to come back. The energy medicines as far as lasers, lights. This is very popular and most cancer clinics have these. Now I’ve done major shows on the Joovv light, different lights, SaunaSpace. There’s so many different light therapies now we can bring in our home. Is that something else you recommend?

Marcus:
Yeah, certainly. Look, I believe any chronic degenerative disease is something we need to deal with on a regular basis at home. It just makes it so much cheaper and it makes it so much more effective if you repeat on a regular basis. I always watch out because there is patients who have that tendency to buy health. They buy every gadget and do too much and the stress level of doing it doesn’t work either. I’m a lazy guy in regards to health, so I try to minimize my efforts.

If I do once a week hyperthermia and I do that since 15 years now. Once a week, every second week if I’m feeling really good. If I do a lot of exercise, I do it once a month. If I slow down with my exercise because of weather or winter or whatever, and I’m more at home, then I increase the amount. I do once a day ozone treatment and it’s phenomenal. The energy that you get from it and PEMF is something I haven’t done to extreme because I do too many other things. My wife—

Dr. Pompa:
I do too many things too. I just can’t help myself. You should see my house. You know why because I’m telling you, I’ve been sick and my greatest fear is being sick again, honestly.

Marcus:
I know.

Dr. Pompa:
A lot of people buy fancy cars. I don’t have one. A lot of people buy fancy watches. I don’t have one. You know what? I have fancy biohacking equipment because my value is this. If I had a job doing retail or whatever, I’m telling you, I’d still have my devices despite—if I make $25,000 a year, I’d still have my devices. I’d figure out a way because these are valuable to me. They really are.

Marcus:
I know. I love them too. I think it’s not so much about having them but knowing how to use them wisely. For me, when I learned about ozone, I thought, my god, that’s complex and it’s so much. We packed that into a training. You learn really step by step to go through. That will turn off in a second, sorry. My coffee machine was turning off but it is really powerful when you know what you do. In Germany, I went to three clinics. They were stunning in their approach. They were giving visualization training to the patient. When you go into hyperthermia, paint a picture before from how you see your body infected with virus and whatever and then, after you do the treatment, do the visualization.

When you lay in there, realize how all your pathogens grow in here and how your immune system can gobble them up because they have more oxygen. During hyperthermia, they blow just with a little tube, I think it’s only a half-liter set. Just a little gentle oxygen burst towards the face. Not even directly nasal canula. Just towards the face so they have that extra oxygen intake while breathing. Many beautiful things and when you realize how you can set that up yourself at home, it’s phenomenal. I love it and I’ve seen—we had yesterday. I guess that’s the same for all of us. It’s our reward. When I have a client that calls me and says, Marcus, thank you so much. We were riddled with Lyme disease. The whole family was in bed. My daughter was already infected. My wife couldn’t go to work. I was barely getting out and now we’re all back to normal and just by following the protocol. It’s great.

Dr. Pompa:
That’s awesome. Well look, these are simple things that are big, big deal. You and I have been to many cancer clinics and this is what you see. You spend $50,000 or you can buy these cheaper home units. Great. The training, well Marcus has it for you. The link—

Marcus:
I’ll put it on the page. I’ll put a button underneath, hyperthermia, PEMF and ozone leading to the training and then, that will be the best.

Dr. Pompa:
Love it. I’m going to go there myself. Marcus, thank you. What a great topic for this time right now. We need these therapies at home. I mean, not just with the cancer diagnosis. This goes far beyond that.

Marcus:
You agree.

Dr. Pompa:
I’m doing these things every day or almost every day myself. I don’t have cancer. I’m all about the prevention and anti-aging.

Marcus:
When you look at the time right now, what has happened due to lockdown, due to isolation, and personal isolation, even clinics closed. We’ve never had more interest than right now. People are aware of comorbidities. Just the word and all of a sudden, they are aware that, oh, I have that too and that too. It opened up a whole Pandora box of what can I do. Then the clinics were closed. For us, it’s been the biggest breakthrough time of all times that people become aware of health, support their own health. Don’t run somewhere else but do it yourself. It’s been amazing and I love that change. Thank you, COVID.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. No, I call them COVID blessings. Actually, I do.

Marcus:
Yes.

Dr. Pompa:
There’s COVID curses and there’s COVID blessings. COVID blessing. All right, Marcus. Thank you. We’ll put the links up here. Great show, thanks.

Marcus:
Thank you so much.

Ashley:
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