Transcript of Episode 47: From a Death Sentence of Cancer, to Life. Hear what This Man Did…
With Dr. Daniel Pompa and David Asarnow
Special Guest: Terry Heninger
David:
Welcome everyone, to Episode 47 of Cellular Healing TV. This is David Asarnow and I am here with Dr. Pompa and today we have a very special guest. Now, I’ve had the opportunity to get to meet Terry this morning with Dr. Pompa and have some conversations and today is going to be very special. You’re going to hear a story of hope, a story of belief, a story of personal responsibility and action. It’s very moving. What you’re going to find is there are natural solutions to the challenges out there. Dr. Pompa, would you like to introduce Terry Henniger, your client?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I’m very, very happy and pleased to introduce Terry and what an amazing guy, as you will see. I’ll just say it right here. The first diagnosis was Stage IV pancreatic cancer. They do a Whipple surgery on this man and they get in there and they downgrade him, and I’ll let him tell the story, to a Stage I and a half or something after that. They give him, a certain amount of time to live, as with all pancreatic cancer.
Of course, they wanted to load Terry up with a bunch of chemo, and Terry went a different route, as you’ll see. Wait until you hear this man’s story. I don’t know if you got the email, folks watching and listening, about this show. There was a new study out this week, David, that talked about 65% of all cancer is really just down to bad luck. That type of headline aggravates me because if Terry believed that, Terry would not be sitting here today. If Terry believed that, Terry would not have taken responsibility and looked for upstream causes of cancer. If it’s bad luck, why change anything, if it’s simply bad luck, right?
David:
Yeah.
Dr. Pompa:
Those types of things really give people a license to continue on doing the very things that caused their cancer. David, I’m a believer, and I have watched very, very sick people get well from the incurable. I’ll tell you, it’s always—you find the cause and remove it. God put something amazing in our bodies. Our bodies have the innate ability to heal themselves. I don’t heal, there’s no doctor in my mind that heals. There’s no cure outside of what the body can do. The body has the ability to fix things, but we have to remove the interference, and that’s what this show’s about, in my mind.
So, with that said, Terry, thank you for joining us.
Terry:
It’s actually my pleasure being here, thank you.
Dr. Pompa:
You don’t know this man, but that guy over there is 64 years old and I’m not going to embarrass him to make him hold up his shirt now, but he is a buff, what are you, 180?
Terry:
About 180 pounds, yes.
Dr. Pompa:
One hundred eighty and well, maybe you could even just jump in right there. Terry, you were absolutely—you always worked out. You loved working out and of course, what did you go down to? What was your lowest weight through this process?
Terry:
Well, after the surgery—I was 190 going in. Matter of fact, I went to the hospital from the gym, because I had jaundice. After the whipple surgery and everything, I got down to about 158.
Dr. Pompa:
How tall are you, Terry?
Terry:
Six foot tall.
Dr. Pompa:
Okay, so you would be, you looked like Auschwitz. I mean, you would definitely be…
Terry:
Honestly, going back, I remember looking in the mirror and I started crying. My dad died the same day I went in for whipple surgery, of dementia, and what he looked like—and I had a brother in ’96 die of AIDS. I remember what he looked like, and I looked like that. Not disrespective in any way, but I was scared, and I just looked in the mirror and I said, “I’m not goin’ out this way.” That was mainly my—from the get on in, I wasn’t going to go out that way.
Dr. Pompa:
That was your turning point? Right then and there?
Terry:
Excuse me?
Dr. Pompa:
Was that your – that was your turning point?
Terry:
That was my turning point, honestly. Before I was in a lot of pain, I just wanted to go home from the hospital, because I’m not a hospital fan. When I looked in the mirror and actually saw what I looked like, and this is just within a 10-day period. Going from 190 to in the 150’s and looking in the mirror and what I was and what I became, it was a total turning point of my whole life. I’ll never forget that picture.
Dr. Pompa:
I would love to have this – I would love to have a before and after of you, really. I have to ask this question, because most people get that diagnosis, how long did they give you to live?
Terry:
They gave me, originally, six months to live for a period of time, and that’s when, to be honest with you, I just prayed to God that night for another chance at life. It was just totally amazing. They came in and finally did the CAT scan and checked everything and then decided on whipple surgery and gave me 35% chance of survival in the whipple surgery, but they felt more comfortable because I was in such good shape that I would survive the whipple surgery. In my mind, I actually, through my belief then, it was like somebody telling me, “You can make it.” I said, “Let’s do it.” It was an 8-hour surgery, and then I started to heal from there.
Dr. Pompa:
Here’s the question I have. Most people at this point, they’re recommending piles of chemo, right? I know what they do for this type of pancreatic cancer. It is a death sentence. Most people have so much fear, Terry, that they’ll do—even if they don’t believe in chemo—they end up doing chemo. You didn’t. Why?
Terry:
That’s a very, very good question. The protocol, like, my surgeon who doesn’t, you know, they just go, “He’s a surgeon,” so he basically hands it over to the oncologist. The protocol is six months chemo and three months radiation after my surgery. They thought they got all the cancer out, but to make sure, they wanted to do the six months chemo. I came home and I remember my mom died of cancer, years back – my stepmom did. I remember her suffering and then just other people. I told my wife, she looked at me, and I said, “I’m not going to do chemo. There’s no way.”
Like a jet, she was upstairs just doing research and natural causes, natural solutions. It actually started with Suzanne Somers’ book Knockout. I started reading that, and through my neighbor in Nashville, which we moved in January, a dentist, was working with Dr. Pompa. I got his name and that’s why I called – my wife called for a consultation with you and you met us and we talked to you and that’s we started our journey. Soon as I talked to you and the more I read, the more chance I gave myself. I knew that no matter what, I wasn’t going to do chemo. An oncologist actually treated me like garbage when I went in because I wasn’t going to – he kept saying, “Sugar was a myth,” because they’re like car salesman. They kept throwing stuff at me. As a matter of fact, I walked into the office, and it was a big theater of people that are sick, sitting down getting chemo. They served you candy. Actually in the office.
Dr. Pompa:
Wow.
David:
Oh, my gosh.
Terry:
Like I said, the more you read, the more discussion, you get anti-chemo and it makes you wonder why anybody would do chemo and then by reading, actually by reading, chemo does zero good for all the different natural doctors for pancreatic cancer. By doing chemo, I have a less chance of survival if I went natural after doing chemo. I just feel blessed at all the decisions I made.
Dr. Pompa:
There’s no doubt about it. When I first spoke to you, I’m very choosy about what clients I take on.
Terry:
Yeah, I heard that.
Dr. Pompa:
I knew that your positive outlook in someone who’s, “I’m not going to end up like that,” is key for these really chronic diseases. That was you, Terry. Something, you had made a choice. David, we always say, it’s a choice, right? Living’s a choice. It’s like everything in our life is a choice. I believe that you’re here today – your wife said I saved your life. No, I believe you saved your life. I know some other things happened to, because you came to the Lord through this process, too.
Terry:
Absolutely.
Dr. Pompa:
Not necessarily the believing person your wife was going into this, am I correct on that?
Terry:
Absolutely. I’m blessed every day. I pray every day and every night, and really all day and different things. I’m completely a different person in many, many ways. I’m still a little crazy, because that’s my personality, but honestly, from the first time I talked to you, I felt the hope and every time I talk to you, I feed off your energy. I truly believe that now the way I feel, that I’ve got a lot, a lot, a lot of years ahead. Then I’ve been reading about Stage IV through natural cures through the different doctors, Stage IV pancreatic cancer, people been living 10, 15, up to 25 years. They were thrown away by the doctors, just go home and get your affairs together.
They’re now, because they went natural, living for many, many years, and it just makes me wonder. Now, I even say, you can go to the store and pick up products and look at the label, and there are probably three or four products in the back that’s in the foods that will cause cancer over a period of time. Pretty much, if you’re not organic, you’re pretty much eating poison.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no doubt about it. Eventually, it’s just going to happen. In that article that I said 65% just down to dumb luck, they talked about gene mutations occurring. Did they ever ask themselves what’s causing the mutations? That’s the key – people are doing things that cause mutations. I want to point this out. Very, very important point. Terry, before you got this diagnosis, you would’ve said, “I’m a healthy guy.” Matter of fact, that would’ve kept you from doing healthier things. Although you can tell your story from the back, but you did make some changes. Really, the only symptom you ever had, ever before this, is some acid reflux, am I right on that?
Terry:
Absolutely. I actually got thorough physicals. I just didn’t go to the—I went in and got complete thorough physicals. They did blood work and everything, and it was just total amazement that it could be in me ten years, and they can’t check the different things and find out something’s wrong. Basically, going in for a physical, you’re supposed to reassure that you’re okay, but it doesn’t. Going back to your point about bad luck – that’s the first thing the oncologist said. “You just had bad luck.”
Dr. Pompa:
Bingo.
David:
Oh, man.
Terry:
The first thing that came out of his mouth. “It was just bad luck.” Yeah, we really make our own luck. It’s just amazing the sales job that they do. One leech to the other, from your doctor, and then, this is protocol, you must do this to the other to the other, and you’ve got people—which I’m now reading all the time—their lives are being ruined by doctors who are supposed to be people protecting us and saving us.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s right. It’s so true. The doctors really do believe, it’s just, “Hey, you’re unlucky. You got diabetes, you’re unlucky.” “You’ve got cancer, you’re unlucky.” It’s the old dogma of, hey it’s your genetics, right? We know that there’re things that mutate the genes, environmentally. We know that there’re things that turn on genes of susceptibility and that’s the new science. Really, that’s the reality of it. Okay, I think at this point, David, everyone’s wondering, what did you do?
David:
What did you do and let’s talk about some of—getting to the source and the cause.
Dr. Pompa:
Actually, let’s start there. You’re right. At the top of the show, how many years were you a Diet Coke drinker, which by the way, David we did a show on. How many years did you drink Diet Coke?
Terry:
Well, diet sodas were probably invented in the 80’s I believe. I got to the point where I was drinking 12 a day.
David:
Oh, my gosh.
Terry:
I actually cut down. I was still even, to the end, I was drinking at least four a day. I would drink two diet sodas in the morning, go to work and between—I was a school teacher and a football coach—I’d drink diet sodas in between. Then I’d say, “Oh, I got to drink my water.” I went for years when I drank way more diet soda than I did water.
Dr. Pompa:
I have said this in the past. There’s a cause, right?
Terry:
Absolutely.
Dr. Pompa:
A lot of the stuff that’s come back since I’ve been working with you is your brain function, as far as clarity. We know that that also dumbs down the brain. Another cause and effect, I have said, and others, it’s estimated that 70% of all disease starts in the mouth. Many cancers, heart disease and we could go through, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia. What do we mean by that? One of the things, when I first took your history, was that you had 10 amalgams through most of your life. You had root canals, which we know cause sickness. As a matter of fact, your periodontal disease was so bad that, basically, I don’t know if you have any of your original teeth in your mouth. Am I correct on that?
Terry:
Absolutely correct.
Dr. Pompa:
Try to give us a history there. If 70%, I believe it’s higher, disease starts in the mouth, here’s a guy that literally his teeth are falling out of his mouth, and as a matter of fact, Terry, you know what I had written down on our Day 1? Months and months ago, you had said, “When my teeth came out I didn’t get sick as much. I had less acid reflux. All pain and cold sores went away.” As the silver fillings and the teeth started coming out of your mouth, you actually saw improvements in your health. Talk to me about that.
Terry:
Absolutely. I actually—my mouth bled, where I would sometimes spit out and my mouth bled—this is for years. It progressively got worse and I’d go in and finally I’d go to the dentist and they had all the fillings and this and that and the refill it. It would always be something. Finally, I just couldn’t do it anymore, so I got everything removed. From that time, everything changed as far as pain. I didn’t have any pain.
Dr. Pompa:
As the teeth were coming out, you’re saying.
Terry:
Once they got out. Once they got out, actually my health got a lot better. I felt better, I had less colds. I had less symptoms. I had hardly any cold sores after that. I always—I tell my wife, if I knew what I know now, I would’ve had all my teeth taken out 20 years ago.
Dr. Pompa:
People would say, my gosh, how is that possible? Well, you had infection in there, root canal can cause cancer, all the silver amalgam fillings leaching mercury. I just had someone tell me yesterday, when I first got my fillings out, my health got so much better. Here’s the mistake most people make, and David, you’ve heard this before. We always say we want to the proper heavy metal detox circulation. Four days after the fillings come out is the perfect time. People have this honeymoon period where they feel better, but ultimately then, the mercury was never removed from your brain and your deep tissues, so it’s still there causing mutations in the genes, causing cellular inflammation, and ultimately driving the problems we see years later. When I looked at your history, and by the way, you had some mold in a past home, too, right?
Terry:
Correct.
Dr. Pompa:
I’m just pointing out to people cause, cause, cause and cause. I remember you being—just things I wrote down—ten years of spraying pesticides or herbicides in your yard, in your house, right?
Terry:
Absolutely.
Dr. Pompa:
Cause. I’m doing your history, I’m saying, “My, gosh. Of course, there’s a cause. There’s a cause. There’s a cause.” I’m seeing a guy who’s heading for a cliff no matter what. Of course, you knew that. Then we did a heavy metal test and we saw heavy metals that were off the chart—lead, mercury, etc. The first thing that we did, we started improving your cellular function. Talk about this progression.
Terry:
We started with the detox – we started detoxing right away, which was amazing. I actually, from the beginning, right from the beginning, we did this, whey water and the Amasai, and we did, the DSMA and…
Dr. Pompa:
We prepared you for that first. If you recall, we did a fast, which we talk about, with the whey water we improved your (inaudible) then we jumped in to the heavy metal detox.
Terry:
Correct. We went through the cleanse first. With the whey water and Amasai, I think what was it? 18 day cleanse? We cleaned up a lot then, and I already started to feel better, right from the beginning, I started to feel better. I actually moved up a little in weight, but once I did the cleanse, the Amasai and whey water cleanse, I actually lost five pounds, but then I felt better. Then we started in a detox—I really started to feel better.
Dr. Pompa:
It worked real fast. Just for people to understand it, most people call it a cleanse, but I look at it as prep work. For about 18 days without eating food.
Terry:
Correct.
Dr. Pompa:
We were doing this whey water which is not whey protein, it’s a liquid water. We basically fasted you for that long, just on these products that are loaded with good bacteria. David, you see me train doctors on that protocol, correct, David?
David:
Absolutely. It’s sort of like, no matter what’s going on, it sort of – it gives your body time to catch up and heal. Wouldn’t that be what it does, Dr. Pompa?
Dr. Pompa:
No doubt. Fasting gives the body—it stops the energy having to go to break down a lot of food and nutrients and it really takes the energy into healing. With any of these types of very, very severe conditions, a fast like this, which I call an intermittent fast, you can read more about it on my website, is where we start, especially with these tough cases. Then we moved into heavy metal detox, and we cleared your body out and then we went into the brain phase. Tell us a little bit about that.
Terry:
Well, the brain phase, which my wife thought was great, because she thought my brain was a little messed up. Actually, we did it, you said we’re going to be on this for two years. I went, “Well, that’s interesting.” It’s great, and again, at the end of it, that’s when we started basically, I think the last time, the call came in—that’s the end. With the process of doing it, I think I’m 4 out of 10, and did the different products in between, the ALA, and all that. Again, it’s sort of another perk-up, where I just actually feel better. I know—I’m on constantly with the terra firma. I’m detoxing all the time, and I still do periodically fast with the SueroGold and Amasai. It seems like—as you get up in the morning, it’s like, how could I — and that’s why I thank God every morning – how can I feel so good? I used to be – I get up – I was getting up at 5:30 and I always back to bed and slept three more hours, and I always wanted to sleep. Now, I actually have to work to sleep, because I still have so much – and even going after lifting weights for two hours, I still have energy. My energy is totally amazing. Actually, two years, I can stay on this brain phase probably the rest of my life and I’d feel good. I see it, from research and everything that’s in it, everything is doing nothing but making my body—and again, I’m always detoxing and cleansing, because anytime, like they say, you’re absorbing toxins. I’m eliminating toxins all the time. That’s the whole thing. In the body is, not for my pancreas, for the cancer not the cell—cellular defense, my cells, I feel they’re cleaning out all the time. From where we started, just a short period of time ‘til now, and through my blood tests. My blood test scores have just come off the charts amazing. The doctor even said to me when I went for my blood test that I have less in me that people that never had cancer. My blood tests are actually lower now than people without cancer.
Dr. Pompa:
You know, David, one of the things that a couple products, because people wanted to know more about some of the products that we use, and I’ll share that, that’s of interest of people. When he speaks of this brain phase, what we’re really speaking of is really, you can clear the body of heavy metals, but we do that for the first three, four months. We set up a concentration gradient. Really, what we’re interested in is pulling the metals from the deeper areas, as a matter of fact, aka, the brain. That’s the brain phase. Really, then, we go deeper. We utilize some of these tools, like epiploic acid, but we take it every four hours and there’s a reason for that, because of the half-life. It’s a fat soluble, so it goes into the brain. Terry, we started you also on these cellular detox drops that almost look like water.
Terry:
Correct.
Dr. Pompa:
You’re one of the original people. You’re one of the forerunners for that new product, by the way, that we’re able to cross into the brain much faster. When we added that in, again, we’re pouring the stuff out of the brain. Terry, you’re a forerunner for the cellular detox drops. You probably didn’t know that, but maybe you did.
Terry:
No, I didn’t. Everything makes sense. Like I said, it’s every four hours. I’m on my second day I’m on the four day on right now. I automatically – my wife sets the alarm at 2:30 in the morning to take my ALA, but it’s amazing. I wake up at 2:25 every morning, knowing that I have to take it, and I take it. I wake up, so you can turn the alarm off and not wake her. It’s so amazing, you get in sequence with everything. Then you have your pills lined up and everything is just easy. I feel that I’m living life every day now. Before, I was existing, and that sounds crazy. My life now is every day is a full day. Before, I—what’s next week? What’s next week? I live for today and every day is a beautiful day. Especially if you’ve got, when you find God and he finds you, or you find Him, it’s amazing how your life changes in every way. It’s sort of like, I used to go to church just to go to church. Now I’m in church, and your products and everything that I read about them, now they say, well, I’m taking that. I read everything now and it’s amazing and it all makes sense. You actually make sense. When we first started, nothing made any sense. I knew I was detoxing, but now everything makes sense and my correspondence with you, and our times that we have together has just been – everything has just been a blessing.
Dr. Pompa:
Another product that you’ve been on for a long time now is the GCEL and the Bind, the Intracellular Detox System, which we do within the heavy metal system. The folks watching, read the articles when detox is dangerous. There’s three-part articles on my website where I talk about heavy metals done right – heavy metal detox done right (Part 1, Part 2 and Part 3). Most people do it wrong. Raising intercellular glutathione is very important for cancer. We had you on the GCEL and binding it up so it doesn’t recirculate. It’s part of this whole process. You hear Terry saying, 4 days on, 10 days off that we cycle. Adding the cellular detox drops in, we’re able to pull out even other chemicals as well as the other heavy metals that are deeper into the tissue. That’s really the process. There’s another product called ASEA, which we always say, “Gosh when I run out, my energy drops.” I don’t know how long we’ve had you on the ASEA now, but it’s…
Terry:
It’s been a while. I get it every month. We’ve had it pretty much from the beginning, we went on ASEA, but again, like I said before, when I was off of it a few days, I could tell. Like different athletes take it, because I didn’t have as much jump in my mood as I did, and I don’t think it was psychological, I think it was the ASEA. Again, that’s a blessing, and that’s just another product. The main thing, Doc, you know, I think all these products are amazing, but you can go to Amazon, you can go to all the bogus products you want that are similar to these. The thing that I know now, you have to have guidance whatever you do. Taking a cleanse and doing a cleanse, you have to do it the right way. So many—I’ve taken cleanses before, but I didn’t know what I was doing, and most people don’t—or what product to take. This has been the biggest blessing to basically go through what I’m going through. I know what I’m taking is doing good for me because I’m going through somebody who knows a lot about it. Where a lot of people will just go and say “a cleanse,” and they’ll get on Amazon and okay, four-day cleanse, and they’ll take the cleanse, but are they really cleansing? I know when I’m detoxing and cleansing, just from my test results from your original test results, if we would have taken that cancer base, what my last blood test, it would have been off the charts. Just in three months from when I started from you, I was at, again, medium, I had to be below a 36, and I was a 7. Just in that short period of time, I detoxed that much. It’s just totally amazing. There’s nothing but—know that there’s a long life for myself.
Dr. Pompa:
I know David has questions, but one of the things I just want to say is just that process you just said early on, what did we do? I applied my 5R’s. We started you on raising glutathione, but then you are more energy, remember, if people read my 5R articles, this is not rocket science folks. We’re increasing the cellular function. If you don’t fix the cell, you’re never get well. Terry, you are proof of that. David, I know you have some questions as well.
David:
Yeah, one of the things Terry, that you’re talking about, in life and business and in health, it’s something that most people don’t think about, but you’re right, most people will say, okay I’ll go on Amazon or you go to a health food store, and I’m going to buy a cleanse they say, “Okay, I cleansed.” What you’re doing differently, is you’ve had a coach in your corner. You’ve had someone who believes in you as much as you believe in yourself and because of that, you’re willing to do – if you’re an athlete, your coach tells you to do something, you do something. In this sense, if your coach is telling you to do something, you’re on the product. You’re doing everything that you’re being told and because of that it’s showing me, right now, in listening to you, that belief, that personal responsibility, the action that you’re taking – do you think if you didn’t have a coach in your corner, you would be where you are today?
Terry:
No, there’s no way I’d be, but I think it’s more than a coach in a corner. It’s like going to the doctor. You don’t really know the doctor. I know Dr. Pompa now, he’s like a friend. It’s the trust, and I have totally, from the beginning, trusted him and I trust him more and more all the time. He could tell me, he’s told me every time we write it down, what to take, and I’ve taken exactly what it was I was supposed to take, when I was supposed to take it, how much I was supposed to take. The results have been amazing. I think the big difference is the trust in the person who’s telling you what to do, that he cares.
I’ve gone to many doctors’ offices where I was going to see once a year, or say six months, they didn’t care. You could tell they didn’t care. It’s like going to the oncologist, the only way they care if I was going be on their product. He cared right from the beginning, within the first 40 minutes, I think—whatever time we had, our first session. I knew—I got off the phone and I talked to my wife, I said, “This is the man who’s going to take me—save my life,” and I truly believed that. I truly believe that’s when my wife said, “I love you,” and we both love you because you care. We’ve read your story, and you’re living through your own life, it isn’t just something you, “Oh, I think I’ll do this.” That means a lot, to really care—to actually have somebody care about how you are. Even after through this, we’ll probably always have a phase, but you’ll always be on my Christmas list and you’ll always be a friend. That means the world to me.
David:
Having someone that cares—you just said it. Someone who cares so much, they’re now a friend. They believe in you. I want to actually go back, because there’s one thing we talked about the amalgam, you talked about the root canals, you talked about acid reflux when you took that out. One of the things that we actually had about a half hour discussion before we went live, was one of the homes you lived in actually had mold in it as well.
Terry:
Correct. It had mold, and it’s a rental we were going through, and then you go through the process. They’re going to do this, they’re going to do that. Then you find out, through the mold, what it causes. I’m sure it raised the toxin base up and then we go back to the pesticides. I used to spray everything. I completely get stuff that’s non-toxic. It’s amazing, you think, we all think we’re Superman, we’re going to live forever. That’s how I felt. Okay, my dad has lived through this, and I’m Superman, I’m going to live forever. I found out that Superman thing’s not working out. Through the toxins, and we got that taken care of, plus I smoked for years. I smoked cigarettes for years. You go with the cigarettes and the diet soda, the mold, the whatever.
Dr. Pompa:
Not anymore.
Terry:
Exactly. I tell my wife, I said, “It’s not a wonder I got sick,” but I also say this, too, and everyone thinks I’m crazy, but I don’t really care. Getting the cancer—getting cancer—it actually was a good thing. It made me a better person and I know I’m going to live a long time. I’m going to live a better person. I would rather exist for a day, I mean to be alive for a day, than to exist for a year. I’m not existing anymore, I’m alive. I’m alive every day – every day is a day. I feel healthy every day.
Before, in my life, and I have a lot of friends who do say, “Yeah, okay.” You should see them, they’re really dead on their feet. I’m not dead on my feet. I’m a happy man. I’ve got a good friend, I’ve got a doctor I could go to, and I told my wife this, I said, “I just want to get away from the regular doctors.” They were calling me, screw-up one thing or another, they’d make one saying I had this, I didn’t have this, or they put a feeding tube in, keep it too long where they had to use surgery to go cut it out. Just get me away from those people so I can actually get a doctor who can actually guide me on what I’m supposed to do and not worry about insurance and the money.
Dr. Pompa:
You know what, you need a coach, not a doctor. I’m a good coach.
Terry:
No, no, you—but I think everyone needs a coach.
Dr. Pompa:
No, listen. Everyone needs a—we hire coaches to improve our golf swing.
Terry:
Exactly.
Dr. Pompa:
What about our health, right? That’s the key? What do the doctors say now? What do they say now, as they saw you really become a miracle?
Terry:
Well, my surgeon said, which is real important, because of protocol, and his friend was Dr. Williams, who was the oncologist. When I went back and he saw me and he saw my blood results, and he saw how—he looked at me and saw how good a shape I was in—and I would have been on my last month of chemo when he saw me. He said, “Thank God you didn’t listen to me.”
Dr. Pompa:
Oh, my Gosh.
Terry:
Then he kind of asked me what I was doing, and I was explaining it to him, and it was all Greek to him. He had no idea what a coffee enema was. Okay, I’m wasting my time even having a conversation about this stuff, because he just knew about surgery. Of course, going through—if you go through college, where teachers rip everybody apart. You people don’t know anything what you’re talking about.
They never, one time, any doctor that I had, before I got to you, mentioned one thing about diet. It was, “You’ve got pancreatic cancer,” they were serving candy in the office. They were nothing about natural foods, they were nothing about organic foods, they were nothing about anything. As a matter of fact, in the hospital, my last day, they said, “Okay, you can eat.” They just gave me a menu. They didn’t tell me what I could eat. It was crazy.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s like we’ll just fill you back up with the causes, you know. That’s not even on their radar. It’s a different world, it really is. Listen, I appreciate medicine in emergency. No doubt about it. It has its place, but as far as chronic diseases go and as far as really health, true health, get out as soon as you can. Terry, somehow you did it. I just want to share this with people because you mention even a coffee enema and I think that—I hope we can see this and David, maybe you can help me a bit here. What I drew here, I just want to show you how simple this is, okay. This is a cell up here. This is where a lot of our, Terry, a lot of our original stuff as going on.
Terry:
Still taking it.
Dr. Pompa:
All that stuff, right? eNRG, so we started fixing the cellular function, right? This is it, this is why people get cancer. This is why people (inaudible) brain. We started fixing the cell, but as we started fixing it, toxins start to dump to the liver, which by the way, that’s a liver that I drew there. Now, you said about a coffee enema, a lot of people do coffee enemas because what it does is it dumps the liver. If you’re not up here, then the coffee enema, it’s only a part of it. Coffee enemas dump the liver so the toxins don’t stay here, right?
We had you on some other liver products, then they end up – after they dump the liver, they end up in your gut, in that little snaky thing there is the gut. Here’s the thing. Most of what’s in the gut, you reabsorb back to the liver and ultimately back to the cell. There we bind it up to make sure it’s out of the body. Of course we’re using very specific detoxes and different things to help bind up this stuff at the cell. True detox starts here. Then we just help it out of the body, out of the liver. Coffee enemas, boy I’ll tell you what, they saved your life, part of it, right? I mean the big thing.
Terry:
Actually, I enjoy them. After I have a coffee enema, I just, you know, I feel amazing. It’s amazing, it’s like clockwork. My brother came to visit just last—a few days ago, and he’s drinking 10 cups of coffee, and I said, and then I got on the computer, I said, “Here’s all the bad things that coffee’s doing for you,” and then I got the coffee enema, now read this—all the good things that coffee doing for you. I guess, when I take coffee my way, it’s a lot better than taking it your way.
Dr. Pompa:
This is a system. This is real detox. A lot of people do coffee enemas, but they’re not up here at the cell. A lot of people do coffee enemas, but they’re not binding it up in the gut so you don’t reabsorb it. Then, of course, they’re not using specific detox for the toxins that you’ve been exposed to. You’ve been exposed to mold. Obviously, we tested your heavy metals. You have to use specific binders in that process. It is this process that saved your life, man, you know.
Terry:
You know what, we started from the beginning, I sit there, we look, and you could just see exactly what you did and to the next process, and then when you said, “You’re going to be on this two years,” but it all makes sense. Everything makes sense, but when I started, in July I believe, no June—it was in June, I had no idea, and it’s amazing what went through…
David:
Book, by the way.
Dr. Pompa:
You started in April.
Terry:
You go back to your Cellular Healing Diet Book. My brother – we were at Thanksgiving, he said, “What are you on? What do you eat?” I want your diet. First of all, go (inaudible) Pompa. If you’re that cheap, you can get some free recipes and then I said, “Just order his book,” and so my brother’s all over this book to start getting on the food to get the proper nutrition for the proper diet. It all works hand in hand. It’s got to be diet, too. The proper diet. You’ve got regular diet and then Cellular Healing Diet, and it’s all about good food. I order all my meats, what you had me take, the turkey and the bison, and it all works hand in hand. I haven’t eaten anything – I’m very strict, too – that’s not organic since this whole thing started.
Dr. Pompa:
You know what? You said to me, Day 1, “Dr. Pompa, I’m going to do whatever you tell me to do. I’m coach-able. I want to point out two things. Obviously, I pointed out this system, but David, how about this? It’s like you chose it as we said in the beginning, right? You looked at your circumstances as something that made you better, because you said, “Man, I thank God for it, looking back.”
It’s this adversity that you immediately said it’s going to change me for the better, and that’s exactly what happened. I believe our mindset really is massive, especially when people are dealing with these chronic diseases. Some people can look at their circumstances and let it beat them down. You look at your circumstances and said, “Man, I’m going to be a better person.” You became a better person, a healthier person. A person who’s going to make a difference in the world. A person who’s going to serve out your calling from God. That was a choice, man, it really was.
David:
It’s a person that lives every day, and it’s a choice. From the time I got on the video with you and Cheryl this morning, both of you—your energy, your positivity, man, does it come through. It’s magnetic. I said, “Man, this story, and how you show up and how you choose to live, anyone who watches this, whether they’re going through something or not, there’s something for them to take from this because of how you’re choosing to live.” I just think it’s such an amazing story. I thank you so much for being here and sharing it with us.
Terry:
I thank you and I feel totally blessed, and I appreciate everything that’s been done for me. It takes – you reach out to people and people responded. Even on Facebook, I got a lot of Facebook friends, and I’ve got people now that are changing diets, changing the way they live, because I taught for 30 years, and I was a coach, and I have all my different players, and it’s amazing how people rally around each other. Again, they rally around people they trust. I think trust is a big issue and that’s where Dr. Pompa’s easy to trust. All they have to do is read his story and read about him and what he’s done, and he’s done miracles I know, for a lot of people, and he’s definitely done a miracle for me and he’ll always be one of my true heroes of my life.
Dr. Pompa:
Well, I appreciate it, Terry. I sure do. I can honestly say the only reason I can be here or help an amazing guy like you, is because of my own adversities. Like you, I thank God for the years of struggle that I had as well, because I would never have learned what I’ve learned. I would never even be able to be that trusting doctor that really cares if it wasn’t for my adversity, so I, too, am a better client. I think that gives our watchers and listeners a lot of hope.
I know that there’s people watching this right now that are going through their struggle, and I can promise, if you know that God works all things out for good, for those who love him and those are called according to His purpose, then therefore, you are going to be better. Start looking at it that way. The mind—the body follows the mind. When my son was trying to teach me how to do a flip, he says, “Dad, the body follows the head.” I’m, like, well, isn’t that the truth?
Terry, it started with your mindset, and then we added some cellular healing. I can’t take credit for any of it. Listen, I pray for the client, that God wants me to help and the ones that I can’t help. Terry, God led me – or you to me, and I just serve through it. I am honored – honored to serve Him and serving a guy like you and every person God brings me. Thank you for that testimony. Thank you so much. Appreciate that. David, thanks for leading us out.
David:
Thank you, and I’m honored to be on this call. Terry, you’re a world changer and I’m so honored to have met you today, and I look forward to keeping in touch, because you’re amazing.
Terry:
David, I appreciate it, and Doc, we’ll talk to you soon and bless you both, and like they say in the Good Book, you believe you receive. I’m receiving every day.
David:
Love that, thank you. Thank you very much. That’s a good way to end today. If you believe, you receive. Thank you everyone for tuning in. Let those who are listening to the podcast, who are watching online now, and/or will be watching in the future. Thank you everyone. We’ll see you next week.
