Transcript of Episode 208: Wholetones: The Healing Frequency Music Project
With Dr. Daniel Pompa, Merily Pompa, and Michael Tyrell
Dr. Pompa:
Dr. Pompa, here. Oh my gosh, where's Meredith and what guests do I actually have on? I have two amazing guests that I'm going to introduce you to today. I think most of you actually know one, and that's my wife, Merily. She actually loved this topic so much that she decided, well, she's made a choice. I'm going to be on the show. I'm going to be part of this interview. There she is today. Merily, welcome to Cell TV.
Michael Tyrrell:
Yay.
Merily Pompa:
-inaudible-. Hi. Looking forward to this. I'm super excited. This is totally up my alley.
Dr. Pompa:
Listen, I'm going to let you introduce our official guest, actually, and read his bio. Both of us, actually, we actually spent the weekend. We read his book. We've been listening to his music that is very, very special music that you're going to find out on this show. Listen, this is going to be one of those shows you're going to want to share with many people. I really do believe in my heart this is a game changer. This will change not just your life, but I believe it was given to this man to change the planet. That's my belief and I think Merily's as well. Merily, go ahead. I'm going to turn it over to you.
Merily Pompa:
Absolutely. Hey everybody, okay, well let me tell you about Michael Tyrrell. Here's his bio. He is the founder and President of Wholetones, Inc., a healing frequency music project that helps a health, creativity, productivity, and well-being. After recording seven songs at different frequency levels, Michael has been studying for over 20 years. He released his album, Wholetones: The Healing Frequency Music Project, accompanied by his book, entitled Wholetones: – which we read yesterday. It was fascinating – the Sound of Healing, in 2014.
Michael travels nationally and internationally as keynote and motivational speaker on the power of therapeutic music. Since the release of the original Wholetones collection, Michael has released Wholetones: Life, Love, and Lullabies, as well as Wholetones: Calming Music for Dogs. All of Michael's Wholetones recordings have reached the top ten on the Billboard music charts.
Always connected to music, Michael bought his first guitar at the age of ten, which led him to study classical guitar with Joseph Lazarro, a protege of the grandfather of classical guitar, Andre Segovia. In recent years, Michael has traveled and ministered with Christian singer/songwriter, Jason Upton, and toured and recorded with Rick Pino and Fire Rain Ministries. In 1987, Michael worked with Gospel Hall of Famer Mylon Le Fevre and his band, Mylon and the Broken Heart, earning him a GMA Dove Award as well as a Grammy.
Michael has been in full-time ministry for the last 26 years and has toured and played with many well-known Christian and secular bands. His experience as a youth pastor, worship leader, accomplished musician, producer, and itinerant speaker has allowed his personal music frequency project to transcend international borders. Michael currently resides with his wife, Lillian, in Palm Beach, California.
Dr. Pompa:
Michael, it's an impressive resume. Yeah, with being –
Merily Pompa:
I was going to say, when God's leading you, it's amazing. I'm fascinated. I can't wait to hear.
Michael Tyrrell:
Wonderful.
Dr. Pompa:
It is. It's an impressive resume, but people will be like, okay, we want to know. My viewers, watchers, listeners, they're about their health. I really want to start with your story. I did episode 195, and I believe you actually saw the episode. That may be how you actually got in contact with me. This one excites me to the core. There's a story here.
As a Christian believer myself, when I heard the story, man, it just made all the sense to me. It excited my wife and I so much, like I said, we really did spend the weekend. We read the book. We've been listening to these tones and music since then. With that said, jump into the story. There is a really special story, how I believe, you believe that God brought this to you.
Michael Tyrrell:
Absolutely. A lot of great discoveries start with a question. The better the question, the better the discovery. I found that when I asked a simple question was – in a musical sense, why do tuners calibrate to A, the note A, on a musical instrument equaling 440 hertz. I could never get an answer to my question. As I kept asking that question, I realized that there was a whole lot more to the story.
At the same time, Dr. Pompa, I was asked to go to Israel with Don Finto, who was my pastor at that time when I worked at Belmont Church in Nashville. We went to Israel. I could tell you stories about that trip that would blow your mind just from going through security at EL AL. Literally, the people that were involved in security there, at one point, we thought we were going to get sent back home. Instead, the people that were checking us in security bent down, and put their hands on our feet, and prayed that we would bring Jesus to their nation. These were Jewish people at LaGuardia Airport.
It started out awesome. Here's the easiest way to get into this story. We went there without a GPS. We went there with only the Holy Spirit and discernment as our directive. My pastor, Don Finto, looked at me. I said, what are we going to do here? He goes, oh heavens, I don't know, which I loved. He said, we're just going to ask the Holy Spirit to direct us, and we'll stay as long as he wants us to stay. I am getting a feeling that we're supposed to go to Benny Huda Street in Jerusalem. There's a particular coffee house there. A friend of mine who has no idea we're in the country is going to meet us there.
I'm just going, this is Huck Finn. I love this whole thing. We did just that. I was driving, which once you get to know me you'll find out that there's probably Amber Alerts with my face on them because I have no sense of direction. I'm driving in a country I've never driven in before. We get to Jerusalem, thank the Lord, and got to Benny Huda Street, got to this coffee house. When we walked in, there was a guy playing piano. It was funny.
I sat down, and as soon as I looked at the stage, he started staring at me and smiling. It was awkward because he just kept smiling at me while he was playing. I didn't want to be the first guy to look away. Eventually, I just thought, what in the world? Then it came. This guy is playing instrumental versions of worship songs that we worship to in the United States, in a Hasidic coffee house, and he's getting away with murder. They have no idea what he'd doing because there's no lyrics.
Then I know why he's laughing at me because he's picking up on the fact that me and Don Finto, my pastor, are believers. He must have seen something in our eyes. Long story short, he came up after the break and said, you guys are believers for sure, aren't you? I said, yes. He said, well, he said, when I woke up this morning, Yeshua told me to put my life's work into a bag, and I was supposed to give it someone today. He said, it's you. I was smash-mouthed. I had nothing to say.
Finally, I just looked at him. I said, what's your name? He said, David. I said, oh, that's perfect. What his life's work was at that point was basically unravelling the psalms of David, finding out content from a prose standpoint, what the words were, melodic content. He gave me all his work. After a break there, I had a bag full of two different types of notation, which would be typical what we would call tabulator form. Then more of an integrative type of music that didn't have any key signatures or notation.
I didn't know what to do. While I'm sitting there trying to figure all this, somebody just handed me something very important. This guy, that my friend Don was talking about, walks into the door from Tel Aviv, two hours away. They just hug each other like they really set up an appointment, but they didn't. It was so funny because he said, the Lord woke me up. His friend said, the Lord woke me up this morning and told me to get to this coffee house in Jerusalem.
That meeting place was the center point of our entire trip over there, but much more came out of it, obviously. What was so amazing was going to another country, and listening for the voice of the spirit, and literally letting him be our GPS, our God Positioning Satellite to get us from Ben Gurion Airport to a place where a young man gave me his life's work, which is what has turned into Wholetones.
Dr. Pompa:
What did you do with it? Did you right away know what it was? Did you just throw it in the corner? What happened
Michael Tyrrell:
Absolutely not, Dr. Pompa. Actually, I had little understanding of what it was at all. I didn't have an instrument on the trip, so I couldn't play the music. I was knee deep in proofreading Don's new book anyway, Your People Should be My People. I just put it in my bag, brought it back to the United States. Took it out in my office, looked at it, played the tabulator version. It didn't do anything for me.
Then the other one, which I didn't understand it. It was like avant-garde notation. It didn't make any sense to me. I did what anybody would do. I filed it away in the “get back to that one day” in my office. I didn't look at it again for two years. Then you want to know what happened after two years, don't you?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that's exactly right. -inaudible-.
Michael Tyrrell:
One day, I went up to my office. In the morning, the first thing I do is I ask myself a question. Michael, why do you do what you do? Who are you doing it for? If the answer isn't Jesus, I have to sit there until my mind gets back to the directive of why I'm doing what I'm doing. I don't leave the house. I don't do anything. The morning is my time where I get centered with him. I'm sitting in my office. All of a sudden, I have this inclination that I should take my Pinline 00:10:12 Bible and turn to page 222. In my mind, I'm thinking while I'm doing this, if there's anything David on that page, I'm going to come out of my skin.
It ended up being the chronology. At the end, it says, and David the son of Jacob. I lost it. It was like a Rubik’s cube. You're playing with it, and you're not getting anywhere. Then you do one thing and all the colors come up. It was like, ah. I just had this a-ha, and I went, no, it can't be this easy. The Lord said, double it. I went, 444? He said, 444 the key of David. I was like, the key of David. The key of David in Isaiah 22:22 meant, very simply, there was a man named Shebna who was given the physical key to David's front palace door. He alone has the ability to open that door or lock that door.
There was a physical key of David. That key was later given to another man because Shebna was found to be, basically, a crook. I thought, okay, I understand that part. Then I found a key of David reference in the Book of Revelation. That was the game changer for me because I realized like most prophetic words there's always a physical and then there's a prophetic. The prophetic understanding of the key of David was simple. There's a spiritual key. That key opens doors that no man can open. That shuts doors that no man can close.
That wasn't a physical key like we know it. It was a key, a musical key. In other words, what key is that? The key of David is 444 hertz. When I got that far, the next part of it was deciphering this avant-garde notation. It was amazing. It's just like anything else. Once you have the code, then the rest of it is just rote. You just start working. Once I knew that the A that I was looking for was not 440 hertz, but 444 hertz, that was my A as the tuning center. Then all roads led back to David's ten-string kinnor, it being tuned to a certain frequency.
Why did David, in the midst of all these other great musicians, why did he have this innate power to walk in to a court room, or a palace, with the same type instrument. Yet when he played, the demons that provoked and terrorized saw were instantly quelled. There was nothing but God's presence. What could change something so much that the environment would instantly change. Suddenly I realized that this whole domain of frequency is far more specific and far more sensitive than I had ever imagined. A simple four cents deference between 440 and 444 could be the difference from the top of your head to the souls of your feet.
Dr. Pompa:
I have to say this is interesting to note because there are many of these frequencies. The frequencies, at least four or six of the frequencies in your seven, they're on the internet. There are people talking about these frequencies. One of the things you found is David played in a completely – his instruments were tuned completely different. Realize some of the difference of the music that we listen to from you versus what you would get on the internet. Talk a little bit about that because -inaudible- watching this don’t understand.
Michael Tyrrell:
All of us are in the same plus minus age group. I don't know if you remember, but when I was little, the TV used to go off around 1:00. You'd hear a test tone. There'd be this ugly black and white screen and then this [test tone]. You couldn't get to the switch quick enough to shut it off.
Dr. Pompa:
The Millennials out there have no clue what we're talking about. Yeah, I mean they literally -inaudible-
Michael Tyrrell:
They can YouTube it. Just go to www.oldfolks.com. Seriously, though, it did happen. It was called the test tone pattern. It was tuned to the Emergency Broadcasting System in case while we were sleeping we were nuked by one of our enemies. Long story short, I was looking online, just like you, Dr. Pompa, and I realized that these people were using a test tone generator, which is a simple device that just recreates, electronically, these particular frequencies we speak of, in a digital sense.
I was looking at people who were just recording that. Then you'd look, and you'd see in the corner, one hour and six seconds. I turned it on. I lasted about six seconds. There's no way in the world I could listen to this even if it was helping me. It's so cool you asked this question. I thought the first thing was, okay, not only have I had to find a tuning center, not only do I have to basically unlearn everything I've known about composition, music, writing, pretty much everything, sidestep myself, and let God take over.
I've also got to figure out how I'm going to create an underlayment of frequency that would be almost like something the body craves instead of rejects and wants to shut off. I don't know if I've told anybody this live before, but I'll tell you what I did. It should be proprietary, but I don't mind sharing. If more people do this, praise the Lord. My point is, I had to find an organic way to create that frequency underlayment. That's exactly what I did. I won't tell you exactly how I did, but used water and crystal for part of it, and I used an orchestra with real wood strings for the other part of it. I recreated all those frequencies with naturally occurring things in nature that would resonate with people.
What I found was when we were playing the frequency underlayments, the people in the studio that were visiting said, I could listen to that for the rest of my life. That’s when I knew. If I can get some guys together that can flow on the spirit without needing music, and they can run with me where I'm going, and I can put this frequency as an underlayment under this, it could change the whole world. You're going to want to listen to it until it's done, and then you're going to want to push repeat. Part of it's working on a cellular level, and the other part is audio enticement. The frequency is the medicine, and the music around it is like the spoon full of sugar that helps the medicine go down.
Dr. Pompa:
That's cool. I mean, I know when David, actually, I mean, it was cedar wood, I believe, right, you said he made the instruments out of, which Saul recreated out of another type of wood. The cedar wood was really hitting the energy needed for these certain pitches or frequencies.
Michael Tyrrell:
There was other things about it too. First of all, the type of cedar had a higher titzel 00:16:57 strength. As you can realize from physics that if you're raising a pitch to a higher pitch than all the other pickers are picking in Israel, then you need a more resilient wood that is stronger. It's negligible, Dr. Pompa, but there is more string tension, obviously, if you go up four cents. The secondary part that made this amazing that he may or may not have known is that cedar's impervious to insects. Thus, these instruments can last a lifetime.
Dr. Pompa:
I think we have to step back. I know Merily has a lot of questions, which are probably better than mine, more interesting, anyway. I have to get through the science a little bit, here. I think we have some people watching this that may be like, what are they talking about? I've done other shows on frequency. This is cellular healing. What does frequency have to do with the cell? How can it benefit us? Why would certain frequencies benefit us? I would argue, and you make an argument in your book, that other frequencies, like 440, that's the classic, actually can be very disruptive to the cell. Explain some of the science there.
Michael Tyrrell:
Even with the science, and hopefully through this whole thing we're having this beautiful mingling of both science and spirituality. When we hear one thing from the Bible, it is the power of life and death is in the tongue. We realize that within that power, there's a power to create or destroy. Frequency and words, thoughts, all of that is the same type of energy, how it's released and what it does.
That being said, there are both positive frequencies that work with the body, and there are negative frequencies that push against how we are genetically wired, and how we are organically and in the genius of God, created. That being said, I, myself, have already come up with over – I mean, I'll be still releasing frequencies until I'm fertilizer. I mean, I have thousands and thousands of positive frequencies.
How that really works, and why people will hopefully begin to understand this quickly, I try to demystify all of it and do a novel job in the book. The most important take-away is that frequency, first of all, is nothing new. It's elemental. We have to understand it because it's everything, every thought, every word, our ability to concentrate. The bandwidth that we're using on our Wi-Fi and our devices to connect with your listeners right now, all of that is frequency. How does that affect the human body? It's real simple.
We are an energy field, by God's design. We work off X amount of -inaudible- of electricity. We're electrically charged for one very good reason. If God hadn't have created us that way because we have gravity. In other words, to defeat gravity, or to at least have homeostasis with gravity, we have to be electrically charged so we stay on the earth. With that being said, frequencies affect – real simple. When was the last time any of your listeners got pulled over by a policeman for speeding? The moment that happens, there's things that autonomically happen in your body. First of all, there's certain endorphins and certain adrenaline that pumps into your system instantly. It goes to your stomach and makes you nauseated. Your thoughts are frequencies and you've already created a mental picture that I'm going to get a ticket. It's going to be at least $200. What is my husband going to say? You know what I'm saying. Frequency is a mystery to people, but it's actually like air that we breathe. We don't think about the fact that we're breathing air. We breathe it.
Dr. Pompa:
Let me interrupt you right now. I'm doing some research for my next seminar. Bruce Lipton, it's The Biology of Belief, in this, the brilliant stem cell biologist. He said our thoughts are frequency.
Michael Tyrrell:
Yes.
Dr. Pompa:
Our thoughts communicate with the receptors. The same receptors that hormones communicate, tells those receptors on the cell membrane what DNA to make to communicate with RNA.
Michael Tyrrell:
That is correct.
Dr. Pompa:
Those make certain proteins that turns into you, your biology, ultimately your destiny. Fact is, is your biology is your beliefs and your thoughts, which is basically energy communicated from thoughts to cell. It is biology and it is science.
Michael Tyrrell:
The best part is that yes, as a man thinketh so he is. No question about that. This gets even bigger in a fun way because we can't truncate frequency to be only audio. We have to also realize it's light. We have to also—so the sun affects us in ways that we don't understand unless we understand frequency. We also have to understand one thing about frequency very quickly. That is that our human ability to be able to hear, we have a very small bandwidth as opposed to other animals, other creatures in the world. Then on the low end of that, even subatomic particles, quarks, isn't it interesting that the Word says that everything that is visible was created from that which is invisible? Isn't that amazing? “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” Isn't that interesting? It's unbelievable. My point is, on the human level, on a cellular level—the good news is that I'll be able to furnish you with it eventually—is right now I'm having a study, a holographic blood study of before and after while people are listening to Wholetones, how it's affecting their blood in real time in 3-D, HD. What's awesome is it's one thing to talk about it. It's another thing to see it. With what you just mentioned, was it Dr. Lipton did you say?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, Bruce Lipton.
>Michael Tyrrell:
Perfect, so one of the things that your readers can look up right now—some of this is squelched for reasons. Some of this is available to check on Google. One is 528, physicists and chemist scientist, now doctors, are using 528 in a myriad of different ways. One of the most—I think is fantastic is that they found out that it has a direct connection to the human DNA chain. They are even doing research now because they believe that 528 could extend telomere length.
Dr. Pompa:
I read that in your book. Of course, that was a fascination for me. 528, man I'm going to be playing that one.
Michael Tyrrell:
Let me just add one thing since your wife's on because my wife loves talking about this one because it was such a hoot. You have to understand it doesn't matter who it is or who's considered. People call me the expert of frequency. I don't know if I'm an expert of anything, but when you have that thing, if we're honest, we realize we're all students of life, and we're all always learning. Some of my learning comes from subtraction. Some of it comes from our 100,000 plus testimonials now. What was funny was when I released 528, you get people, and everything is peace, relaxation, sleep. Then the frequency 417, oh my gosh, I'm doing more creatives. Our whole office switched over. No one's getting the 4:00 need a cup of coffee; all that good stuff. I started getting a bunch of women in the 38 to 48, 50-year range that were saying that 528 was driving them nuts. I thought that's not good because that's a big part of my demographic and I want them to be happy people and peaceful people. After like 50 or 60 of these emails saying, “This irritates the snot out of me.” “I can't stand this frequency.” “I love them all, but this one.” Why?
One thing you know, and you guys know better than anybody, is that when you're dealing with non-allopathic modalities of healing, there's always the chance of a herxheimer response or a healing crisis. This is no different than that. What you need if—if I start doing a master cleanse and there's beats and some other stuff in there. You know what? I'm going to feel crummy the next day probably, but within three days I'm going to feel awesome. If you hit a frequency you really need, you might get irritated. You might feel light-headed. You might have flu-like symptoms. People forget, this isn't just music; this is therapy. With that being said, I'm sitting here in my office going okay God, what do I do? These women hate my frequency. How can I fix their frequency? He said, “Look at the physiology behind the frequency.”
Oh my gosh, the female reproductive system, they're all menopausal. I'm walking around going, “Oh my God, they're menopausal.” My wife's like, “What are you talking about?” I said, “These poor ladies are menopausal and so 528 is over-stimulating them. Guess what, it's driving them bonkers.” I responded, I did a MailChimp thing to all of them. I said, “Listen, I think I understand. Try this. I want you to listen to all the frequencies as much as you want, except 528. I want you to ratchet it down to maybe two times a week, okay. Until you can listen to it, and it doesn't make you feel edgy,” or some of the other words they use that I won't say on this broadcast. They were just going out of their heads. About a month later, I get these love notes from these same 50 women going, “Oh my God, the hot flashes have stopped.” “Oh my God, I'm sleeping eight hours through the night.” What was happening was they were over treating. That was the bull's eye frequency for them because they were either pre-post or at the end of their menopause. This was just driving their estrogen levels through the gazoo. When we were able to get them to back off of that, it did exactly what it was supposed to. It helped balance their hormones to the point where if they took bioidenticals, it was helping with the bioidenticals. If they didn't have anything, at least the hot flashes and their sleep was getting better.
Merily Pompa:
Is it okay just to listen to it as background music or do you need to lay still and focus?
Michael Tyrrell:
It is. Nope, that's the number one question. Here's the best part about frequency. You have to realize, just like our voice, you've heard this ad nauseam probably, but when you say something, what we're saying right now, when it passes our ability to hear it has no relevance upon its eternity. When you say something, you set something into motion that's going to be here forever. This is an important interview because everything we say and hopefully everything we say is inspired, it's going to be here forever. Not just on the stream, but in the air. It's not important at all that somebody sits there and focuses on this at all. Most the women that I talked to about it, they were concerned about that. I said, “Do what you do every day.” You don't even have to have it on loud. I tell people put it to where it's barely perceptible. Some are my husband's hard of hearing, so I turn it on 10. I was like turn it down. Here's the take away, and this is the one that's going to blow your listeners away, too. One of my biggest advocates for Wholetones is a deaf girl named Stephanie Rood, in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Dr. Pompa:
Vibrations, frequency is same vibration.
Michael Tyrrell:
Yes! That is indicative of what you're saying. It's not only what you feel it on the skin, but it's also having a direct effect on your body in a cellular level. She never understood why people love music because she's deaf. However, when she got Wholetones, her life started changing and she felt the music. I tell people all the time, 10% best, the audio is important. Levels, and headphones, no headphones, it's irrelevant. As long as you're within proximity where those frequencies can reach you and believe me, it's a long way. I actually did an outdoor Christian festival and we were playing on stage. Three, four, five-hundred yards away, people were feeling the frequency underlayment. As long as you're in the house and they're on, you're good.
Dr. Pompa:
While we're on the nuts and bolts, you can do it at night while you're sleeping actually. Of course, I think you gathered that from what you just said. There's also an order. You have seven frequencies. I think that you need to explain the different frequencies. They have different purposes. There's even a story about these particular frequencies, so get into the nuts and bolts of that. There is an order from what I read in the book; what you suggest, not that technically.
Michael Tyrrell:
Sure, and the order is really technically only one thing. For your listeners and those that are practitioners, if you're working with frequency, there's a lot of different modalities for introducing frequency into the body, simply not just music, but laser probe for example, rife machine. There's a lot of different ways of introducing the body to frequency. One commonality is that all those modalities exist around one center point, which is there has to be an opening frequency. The opening frequency works energetically the same even though the ideal might be different. With me, the opening frequency is track one, which is called “The Open Door” for a reason. Most people resist healing because they don't feel worthy, period. Shame and guilt, which we could get into for hours about [a sham] and what that meant in the Hebrew, and why it was never supposed to be part of a Christian's life ever because the Lord took care of it on the cross. “For the joys set before Him, He endured the cross despising [a sham].” We don't have to go there, but you're picking up what I'm throwing down. We're not supposed to be ashamed of anything; we're free. With that being said, if you can get somebody to the place where they can come to grips with the fact, and say it without feeling any rejection, I am worthy to be healed by God.
Now, whatever the spot treatments are, let's say for example, we do have a menopausal lady. I don't say just turn on 528. I say listen to 396, open up, feel worthy to be healed by God. Now, let's spot treat with that. Order-wise, I only say the only order is always open with an opening frequency. Then you're going to know yourself—I can't by law anymore, believe it or not, I can't prescribe frequencies. I can't even go into the exact characteristics anymore because the government is giving me a hard time because this works. I don't know if that makes any sense. I can talk a little bit about it.
You brought up a great, great, great question. 417-hertz, which is called “Desert Soldier” and would be the second disk in the seven-series set that I'm sure your listeners eventually will become familiar with. When we were using that at first, we didn't really think about all of the capabilities of it. I was using that to write this book that you read yesterday. I found that while that frequency was playing, I wrote for hours, sometimes nine hours at a pop. That book was written in a few days because it was like I couldn't stop writing. Then I realized that it also had a huge, huge—it affected the way that I process information. It affected the way that I got my work accomplished, meaning procrastination. When we introduced this two years ago to the working community, I immediately was contacted by Forbes, Ink Magazine, recently Fortune 500. Different people are saying what in the world is this stuff doing? Because the test groups were people—at first was our own PR company 5W in New York. They started playing this inside their building in all the little cubicles at low volume. They found that people weren't peaking out at 3 o'clock, that they were producing more copy and more creatives. That the CEO of the company loved being in the office because he was crushing work. Then we realized there's a component here that actually stimulates creativity and helps you get more work done in one day. You think about that on a broad sense, who doesn't need that? That's one of the—not to mention, there's other things I wish I could tell you about.
One of the cool things that have been reported, and enough so I feel comfortable to say it on your broadcast is people with tinnitus, that listen to that, which is the ringing of the ears. You can try Ginkgo and a lot of other stuff that have a little success. People that have had it for 10 years plus, even a guy you met I think, Robby Besner, a good friend of mine with Therasage. He actually listened to it at my friend's office, and within about 30 minutes, he's tinnitus went away and never came back. That's one of the components about that frequency. I can tell your listeners real quick why that would probably work because it makes sense. If you have an occupational tinnitus, meaning if you work in an airport or you're around loud things: construction worker, musician. Basically, what happens is there's a resonance in your head. That's what's really happening. The [audic] nerve is involved in that process. If you ever saw the movie Major Payne, I don't recommend it, but there was a funny scene where Major, one of his soldiers broke his leg. He's screaming, “My leg! My Leg!” Major Payne goes to him and he breaks his finger. He goes, “My finger!” He goes, “How's your leg?” That's how it works.
That's how it works. It's like if you've ever seen people in an office where someone's getting an injection, and the assistant is taping them, the taping technique. It takes your mind off the injection and you're following the stimulus. In the same way, we see this stuff all of the time. With tinnitus, what we're introducing with 417 is an interruptus, an interrupter of frequency that your ear and your [audic] nerve grabs ahold of this frequency. The other one that you've been working around and it's—occupational means it happens every day. You get what's like a feedback loop. You have this roaring inside of your head and your cranium, and everything's resonating. What we've done is we've created a frequency that takes its place. It stops that ringing. That I can tell you for some people—I had it for years because I sat up next to a snare drummer every day that was cracking rimshots, and bang, bang 200 nights a year. My tinnitus went away. I didn't know it was going to. When I created these frequencies, from working with that frequency, my tinnitus went away.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that's awesome.
Michael Tyrrell:
Do you want to hear about the rest of them?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I do; yeah, exactly. I know Merily has questions, too. I do want to hear about the rest of them because I know my listeners go what about the rest of the frequencies.
Merily Pompa:
-inaudible-.
Michael Tyrrell:
Okay, so 444 is the next one, and 444 would be what I would call the tuning center. If we have time, we'll correlate this. Remember, this all correlates. When you exhaust the audio realm, you begin to introduce the area of light, which I have an interesting thing I’d like to share later about that. At any rate, it would be the orange disk because that's actually the color of the harmonics of the music you're listening to. When you listen to 444, it is the master center tuning. I tune all my instruments to that frequency. It has an unbelievable ability to bring peace, just like it did probably in Sol's Palace. I'm telling you, if you're having a maalox or migraine moment, and you're really going through a hard time, that one just brings everything in the room down, all of the energy, all of the craziness, all of the kids are screaming in the other room. Every person, I put 444 on, and I feel like I can take a breath. It's subconscious. You're taking a deep breath, but no one said take a deep breath because it has the ability to bring peace in the midst of chaos. 528, we—
Dr. Pompa:
What about 444?
Michael Tyrrell:
Huh?
Dr. Pompa:
We love 444 at our house.
Michael Tyrrell:
Then 528 is what we call the—it's interesting that its Latin name was derived [mera justorem], which means the miracle frequency. It is the one that scientists say drastically effects the DNA chain. It is also used in a million different applications. One that's fascinating is a Canadian biologist used it after a huge oil spill in the Gulf to clear one cubic mile of stuff that was impacted with sedimentary oil, and globs of oil, by simply using frequency with massive amplitude. His research is well known. Oil companies are now looking into using the spray stuff they use to disperse the chemicals and using sound to clear water, which is an interesting thing.
639, for a lot of reasons, whenever I test, I always test for this frequency. Here's a fun one for all of your listeners that have children. It has a behavioral component that I can't really explain, but it's named the “Bridge” for a reason. When you're in a situation where you're having an argument with your spouse, or your kids are going tornado in the other room, or you have a relative in town that's just that—they're that relative that drives everybody crazy. If you put this music on, and don't talk about it or give anybody any lead sheet into it, you turn it on, you'll find some amazing things. First of all, the kids in the other room are at peace. It gets quiet. Then you see the one kid handing the other kid the toy they were fighting over. Then your fight that was going tornado between you and your wife, suddenly your simpatico and you can move on. Then that guy that's always an irritant at Christmas just doesn't seem to be so irritating. I love 639 because I see a far greater reaching use for it even in our inner cities. Even in our emergency broadcasting system that for the most part is a pigeon's nest that aren't used as speakers downtown to be able to introduce a behavioral component of frequency that could—I said could—curtail violent crime that we're seeing in Chicago, in different places because it works in the classroom with kids that have disruptive behavioral capabilities.
Merily Pompa:
This might be a completely ridiculous question, but if these tones affect our biology in the way we heal and our state, does it have an outward affect then on our verbal tone when we're frustrated with our kids?
Michael Tyrrell:
First of all, I learned from a young age, there's no stupid questions. Some of the stupidest questions I thought were stupid are the ones that brought me where I am today. What it will do—here's the fun thing about—the way I like to say with frequencies is that, remember, your whole life, you don't realize it, but by submersion and by marinating, you've heard the same stuff over and over again. Hey, why do you think that kids—this will blow your mind. Why do you think that kids that come out a generation later, they sing the same children's songs that we sing? They have the same major fifth and major third, da-da, da-da. Where does that come from? Their parents didn't teach them that. It becomes part of us, but part of what's become us has been a frequency that interrupts our circadian rhythm. If you look at—like I do. I’m always watching. We're becoming a country that's a country of insomniacs.
Dr. Pompa:
Oh, yeah.
Michael Tyrrell:
We are. If you look, I think it was 23 million people suffer from insomnia in the United States of America. That's a spike. There's a reason why. Will it change your voice? Here's the best part. Your voice is your organic real estate or postage stamp of your identity. Meaning, if your husband calls you on the phone and he's on the road, and he hears your voice, immediately he's going to know she's in good health, she's not in good health, she's stressed out, she's happy, she's just had a glass of wine. You're going to hear that in our voice. It's normal. With that being said, it won't necessarily change your tone at that time, but what it will do over time is begin to recalibrate you with a whole new set of tones that you will in turn—remember, there's perfect pitch and relative pitch. Most people have relative pitch. After a period of time, they can pick out that note. You'll begin to resonate with a whole new frequency. That will, in turn, help you on a behavioral place and have more peace with your kids.
Merily Pompa:
Yeah, that's amazing. That's encouraging. Again, just because moms do get caught up with being berated with the same questions or the same responses because of the frustrations of just raising kids, in this case, teenagers. If you have that marinating going on, and you slowly over time just have a greater sense of peace, I would expect that that would exactly happen. There wouldn’t be that same reaction.
Michael Tyrrell:
You have the hardest—being a mom is the hardest occupation in the world, period. All of us guys, a lot of times people look at the guys because we're out there, our names in the newspaper or whatever. Behind every great man is a greater woman. Believe me, when you're saying that, I understand it because we have friends that have special needs children, autistic children that I get to work with, which I adore them. They love this music. The point is that being a mom your onsite. Most of us are either catching a plane to get to another plane, or on some sales call, or doing something, or creating something, and then there's mom. Anyway, thumbs up to you.
Dr. Pompa:
What about that like for brain? I was thinking of an autistic child; obviously, 444 for sure, “The Open.” What other ones for the brain, for an autistic child, or even a neurodegenerative of dementia?
Michael Tyrrell:
Now, here's the cool thing. You have to remember that you can have the same malady, but how you got it could be from a different stimulus. One could come from -inaudible-, the other one could come from this, or depression could have been because of the rejection. There's so many myriads of why. What I tell people to do, doctor, is—there's classic ways to get at that. You can think it through by looking at—but you know what I find, which I was getting to with the next frequency, is that some frequencies affect a control group of people completely different, totally different. The elemental truth is that God created all of us different, and so frequencies affect all of us minutely a different way. One thing that's exciting though is from an atomic weight level, all of our organs are plus/minus. That's where I'm really comfortable working with people with frequencies because negligibly, the heart weights virtually the same within ounces as the lungs, what have you, brain. That could be argued, but you catch my point. That's easy to resonate. Where it gets more tough is in the behavioral area and then, of course, the brain.
When I talk to Dr. Daniel Amen, we had quite a conversation. I love this man. The funny thing is what he told me when we were talking in Scottsdale is he said, “You know, originally I wanted to be a priest.” I said, “You did?” He said, “Yeah, but can you imagine my name, Father Amen?” When it comes to topographic brain mapping and understanding the brain, I've never met anybody that knows more than Dr. Amen. We were talking about this a little bit. There's chemicals involved. You think about brain chemistry even; you could look at what the frequency is doing. You could surmise that if we started with 396, and then we worked on the DNA in 528, and then if anything was because of a viral fungal, we'd go to 741, but we could miss it by a mile. The best thing to do is to let people play through starting with 396, start through their seven-note frequency. You're going to find out the very first time you listen to it, if something is irritating you, congratulations, you've just found a problem. Yeah, it's not because the—it's not entertainment. It's like I don't like that one. The one that you're not liking, you have to look a little deeper. I can't say it anymore on air, but the book does explain to some degree what all of those frequencies does.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, it does. Look, each frequency are 22 minutes approximately.
Michael Tyrrell:
Twenty-two/twenty-two.
Dr. Pompa:
Twenty-two/twenty-two, that's why I said approximately. Anyways, obviously if you're playing them at night, you're getting through it several times, no doubt about it. In your book, you talked about digital versus basically the old—what we call analog. The old, but still relevant today. That was one of the questions I have because we're receiving it when you purchase—and by the way folks, look for the link because get healthytones.com and you'll be able to get these, what we're talking about. It comes digital, but you record it analog. I probably overstepped something right there because you have to explain the two
Michael Tyrrell:
No, you nailed it. Believe it or not, let me tell you, this is the most misunderstood subject in the entire book. You wouldn't think it would be, but it by far is. So much so, I had to do FAQs and I still get probably 200 emails a week on it going well, why would you create a digital thing? I'll explain. When we're talking about analog versus digital, some of us on this broadcast are old enough to remember the 12-inch vinyl disk. As far as the industry standard of reproducing proper resident peaks and frequencies, there's nothing that is more specific than a record. There's plus/minus problems with that isn't there? Storage, first of all, is why everybody changes everything, inconvenience, they scratch, whatnot. We have to realize that up until that time, there was no better modality for recording music because it was true. As things moved on, Billy Joel's 52nd Street, was the first compact disc, the first CD that was ever recorded. That was the first one that went out. It was still a really good technology because even though there was the first conversion of binary, there's a nice analog ability for a disc to still be able to hold information. However, we got to MP3s truncating. Now, I just found out that Apple is going to do away with all their music downloads by 2019. Think about it, which means everything will go to streaming audio.
Let me explain for your listeners. The chapter you speak of is “Bigger is Better.” Analog frequency is a real-time, robust, the full measurement of all frequencies. Digital are the numbers that are getting as close as they can in a binary system to that same exact waveform. Now, just in the last 40, 50 years, you can't compare what's happened technologically. At first, the digital stuff was a waste. I wouldn't use, couldn't use it. If you're recording music, nobody has two-inch tape players for the most part anymore. Nobody’s listening to records, even though there's a resurgence of it. You have to come up with a work around. What I did was I decided to use WAV files versus MP3s for downloads, which obviously is huge.
The second thing I did was I recorded everything with analog instruments through analog technology. Meaning, in the studio, tube processors, tube preamps, Neve preamps. Stuff that warms the signal up first is just hardcore, hard drive digital. After that point, when I mastered it, everything went back through tubes again. What you have is the digital side of my music is simply endless tracks to use. The simplicity of not having to re-record a million times. It's virtual, as far as the recording process, virtual tracking; simple. The music side of my stuff is very, very close to being fully analog. That's why it works. That's why even our MP3s, some of the biggest testimonies come from people that never even bought my stuff that listen to a two-minute sample. There's a nurse in Tampa, Florida who called me. She was really stoic and to the point: hi, my name's so and so. “I'm an RN from Tampa General. I just have to tell you that I had—” when she said had—“I had rheumatoid arthritis.” I said, “Well, that's incurable.” She goes, “That's what we believed.” She said, “But somebody sent me this sample, this spinning disc on your website.” She said, “I listened to 417 one time.” She goes, “That was three months ago. I have no more rheumatoid arthritis and I'm a believer.” That was a nurse.
Merily Pompa:
I want to interrupt you just for a second because I thought something you talked about was really fascinating to me. That was about Joseph Goebbels, the minister propaganda under Hitler. I am just a strong proponent of freedom and how people get so distracted by the minutia that they miss the bigger picture of what we really need to be aware of. I'm not a conspiracy theorist at all.
Dr. Pompa:
I'm not either.
Merily Pompa:
There are some things that are historical fact. One of those things that you really did a great job of addressing was about what had happened with his intent and his success in switching that frequency. The end result, chaos, and disorder that is still affecting us today.
Michael Tyrrell:
Like I told you at the beginning of the broadcast, the discovery came from a question that no one could answer. I had a sense that there was something wrong with music. The Germans obviously knew there was something wrong with 440-hertz, or they would not have called it The German Radio Beat. It became what they broadcast on for their propagandist message to people telling them that the war was—we're winning the war, and all of their propagandist films and audio. At the same time, Joseph Goebbels was responsible for basically propaganda and mind control experiments done against the Jews. One of the things that he did was they worked with creating insomniacs. There was Jews that didn't sleep for six months at a time. They were trying to find out what would happen to them if they never let them sleep. 440 was one of the interrupting frequencies they used to keep them from sleep. On a far wider range of what the heck, was when in wartime, when this guy is basically the right-hand man to Adolph Hitler, why is he traveling around the globe trying to talk all these other countries into changing their tuning center to 440? You have to understand the Nazis had a complete idea of taking over everything. They didn't like our culture, so they burned all of the music, destroyed the statute. They wanted to be the master race that recreated everything, including being able to control people by the militarization of music.
What happens is in a long story short, all the other countries tell him to go fly a kite, except the United States and Canada. The US and Canada adopt the 440-hertz tuning center that was called standard pitch for many years until different school groups would challenge that terminology. Thank God, it was overthrown. There is no standard tuning. I want to make that very clear. There is no standard tuning anywhere. If today, if the three of us got on a plane and we went to Venezuela, and I tuned with a tuner from the United States, and they tuned with their tuner over there, we couldn't play in tune. We couldn't play in tune. Isn't that amazing because they tune to a different frequency than America does? My point is there is no standard tuning. We and the Canadians were the only ones that basically bought into Goebbels stuff that we needed to—now, but the good news is if you've heard of the Boston Pop Symphony?
Merily Pompa:
Yes.
Michael Tyrrell:
They are the first ones in the United States that are now using 444. I highly recommend going to see them play live.
Merily Pompa:
Absolutely, that's great to know; thank you.
Michael Tyrrell:
I wanted to ask if I could share one thing?
Merily Pompa:
Yes, absolutely.
Michael Tyrrell:</strong
Only because I think that your readers, it would help them understand was I wanted to talk about the light and sound component. It's funny when we're kids that the first thing that we adhere to in school is show and tell. There's like what it is and here it is. I mentioned this scripture early. In John 1, it says, “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning, and through Him, all things were made. Without Him, nothing was made that has been made. And in Him was life, and that life of Zoe was the light of man. The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.”
Now, we go back to the very first beginning of Genesis known as the same word, Beginning. What do we have? “In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and empty. Darkness was over the face of the earth and the spirit of the Lord was hovering over the waters. And God said—” word, said, spoke—“God said, let there be light.” First fun thing is when did he create the sun, the moon, and the stars?
Dr. Pompa:
After.
Michael Tyrrell:
Three days after. This light is what? It's the response to what? To the word. It's the response to what God speaks every time. He exhausts the audio realm completely and then light appears. He can't help himself. He's his own work light. He says something, light appears because there's no more room. He had every frequency between sound and light is excited at his voice. Then we think about what the Word says. It says this: “And his voice was like the sound of many waters.” I was spending time with a physicist and I said, “Is there anything in our country, in our world that exhausts the sonic spectrum?” He said, “One thing, Niagara Falls.” Niagara Falls, the voice of many waters. What is it really saying? The fullness of frequency, when he says one thing, everything. When he says something to Dr. Pompa, everything else in the room, everything under your feet hears and responds at the same time. It's mind-boggling to think that people say well if we don't cry out, then the rocks will cry out. Rocks are crying out all -inaudible-. There's quartz in here in my watch. Rocks are crying out right now. It's keeping my wristwatch in perfect time right now. We're not thinking big enough to understand the fact that from the beginning it all started, all frequency with the Word of the Father, when he spoke it out, all the frequencies were released. That's how all of this really works. The light component, when I created the product Chroma, I did it for a reason. I was surprised that immediately, I got a call from a guy named Jordan Rubin, who at that time was just getting out of his own company, which was Garden of Life.
Dr. Pompa:
We met Jordan. Jordan's a friend of ours. Matter of fact, by the way, we were actually in—he was growing mushrooms. He said, “Hey listen, I'm playing these tones, these frequencies that are just absolutely—this is what I'm most excited about.” This and that. That's actually when first heard your music.
Michael Tyrrell:
Oh my, so then we don't have to go there because you just told the story. He started sending me pictures of his Ganoderma and Wolfsbane mushrooms that he was growing in his [BECO] bacterium lab, by using the light from Chroma and the sound. I could not believe he said even the bioavailability has been enhanced by using this over the plant. It's exciting to realize that that same voice, that God would give us a postage stamp of his voice to be able to release in our generation and that it even affects plants. It affects animals.
Dr. Pompa:
We know the studies that were done. When they spoke certain words, words carry a certain frequency, even the intent of the word. They change the water literally under the microscope. You can Google this, folks. When we spoke certain words to certain plants, certain plants would die. If you spoke love to plants, they would actually grow faster. We spoke death and hate, the plants would literally die. That's real, man.
Michael Tyrrell:
In the book, you can see the pictures that Masaru Emoto got from frozen water molecules as he listened to the seven frequencies. They're actually in my book; there's pictures.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I know. I saw that. I've known that before this. Michael, I don't know if Merily has any other questions. I just want to thank you so much for being here. We could talk all day about this. Listen, get the book. When you get the music, get healthytones.com. Go there, get this. I'm telling you, it's going to transform your life. When we talk about fixing the cell to get well, how do we not discuss frequency. Obviously, those frequencies David played years ago had that effect on solid. It can have that effect on us in many different levels. Merily, I'll turn it back to you.
Merily Pompa:
Yeah, I actually don't have any questions. I just think you're such an encouragement to people having that certain thing inside them. I just think maybe you could speak best to people encouraging—or that you could encourage other people to really identify what the deeper question they might have within their soul that they never pursue answer to. It seemed like you just really took that up with God all the time. You just really had a deep desire to know some answers about some things that were important to you that you didn't ignore. Look what God birthed through that curiosity and through that desire and expectation of what only He could do. Only He could do it the way He did it.
Michael Tyrrell:
Oh, no question. I think that Dr. Pompa just said it a minute ago, but that has been the three-legged approach that has changed my life, which is intention, like why am I doing this? Then is execution, once your intended than you do it because the road to hell is paved with good intention. You've got to do it. Then the last is transformation. You have what? You have intention. You have execution. Then the result is transformation. I had no idea that three years after releasing this that we'd be close to 100,000 testimonials and be in 164 nations; if somebody would have told me that, I wouldn't have believed them. Only God, if God has something that's His and He wants it noised abroad, he only has to breath once, and it takes off. I'm so honored to be with you guys.
Merily Pompa:
Thank you, thank you so much.
Dr. Pompa:
Thank you. This is going to be a show that many people are going to share, that's for sure, and turn people onto as well as your music. Get healthytones.com. I hope all you do. Thank you, Michael, appreciate it.
Michael Tyrrell:
God bless you guys, thank you.
Merily Pompa:
You too, bye.
Michael Tyrrell:
Bye.
