269: Can We Outsmart Our Cells?
with Spencer Feldman
There are 3 animals that are very cancer resistant: elephants, ants, and the naked mole rat. How can humans gain the same advantage as these remarkable creatures?
My guest today, Spencer Feldman, has done amazing research on the topic and we'll be discussing how our our bodies can actually build up defenses to repair and even stop mutated cells from replicating. This is one fascinating episode!
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Ashley:
Hello, everyone. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m Ashley Smith. Did you know there are three animals that are very cancer resistant: elephants, ants, and the naked mole rat. How can humans gain the same advantage as these remarkable creatures? Our guest today has done amazing research on the topic. He’s here to discuss how our bodies can actually build up defenses to repair and even stop mutated cells from replicating.
Our guest’s name is Spencer Feldman. He’s been formulating and manufacturing detoxification products for two decades, awarded two US patents. His suppository versions of chelation therapy, liver/gallbladder flushes, and coffee enemas have helped tens of thousands of people improve their health. This is one fascinating episode. Let’s get started and welcome Dr. Pompa and Spencer Feldman to the show. This is Cellular Healing TV.
Dr. Pompa:
This is a great show because you have a great interest like I do. We both do detox very similar. We believe it has to happen at the cell. Myself and my doctors, we have utilized many of the products that you’ve created because one of the challenges that we face with detox is people with bad guts. You’ve created some suppositories that we absolutely love. How I actually found your company was because some people—the darn coffee enemas which help detox so much. It opens up that liver pathway and gets the bile moving which gets toxic.
You found a simpler way. The product is Xeneplex. Now, we’ve fell in love with that product. It’s basically, folks, a coffee enema in a suppository. I use them all the time. A matter of fact, I turned my friend Ben Greenfield onto them because he—when he travels, he wants to do his coffee enemas. He absolutely loves your products as well. It goes beyond just Xeneplex, so we’re going to dive into that.
I want to have some discussions here about cancer and about how toxins relate into this big epidemic because that’s big into your heart. Then we’ll pull some of these really unique products that you’ve developed into this conversation. We’ll start there but start with your story, man. I always start there because always somebody that dives in as deep as you do, we all have a story. How did you get into this?
Spencer Feldman:
I wanted to be an emergency room physician, but my hands when I was in college were shaking so bad that I couldn’t drink soup. I went to the doctor and I said, “What’s up with my hands?” He said, “Here’s a drug.” I’m like, “Alright, but what’s up with my hands? Why is this happening?” He didn’t want to give me the time or an answer or maybe he didn’t have an answer. I traced it back probably to [00:02:59], a measles outbreak—or not an outbreak, one person perhaps got measles at my college, so the massed exited everybody. I believe my hand shaking started right afterwards in retrospect. I probably got a little bit of a vaccinosis reaction.
I went to acupuncture school. That wasn’t for me. I like it, but I don’t like needles. I think it was around the year 2000, but the internet became really available. You’d get onto PubMed and you could read published journals in 12 different languages around the world, any topic you wanted. I really feel in love with alternative medicine. I ended up going from making it a hobby to get my own health better to making a career as a formulator.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, and like I said, we really love the products. It works so amazing right along with my cellular detox. I have the same principles. Let’s talk about cancer. Let’s jump in. Today, I’m constantly lecturing on the fact that chemicals, neurotoxins are the biggest driver of why we’re seeing an explosion of cancers. Even kids, since the 1950s, it’s estimated that 67% increase in childhood cancers. When you look at the research, environmental toxins, neurotoxins are the driving factor. With some of this new research around glyphosate being sprayed on all our foods, oh man. Alright, what’s your take on it?
Spencer Feldman:
I came to some of the same conclusions. I was curious, have we always had cancer? They do find cancer and were traces of cancer in the bones of prehistoric people. When I came across some studies, I think they were out of Sweden, and they showed that cancer really started skyrocketing right about the 1950s. I started looking, well, what was happening in the ‘50s? That’s when we started doing atmospheric nuclear testing.
If you look at the number of tests that happened over time, and you look at the global worldwide production of plastics, chemicals, pesticides, and you lay them over the cancer graphs, these are identical graphs. Is it causing it? Is it causality? Is it correlation? I don’t know. I think it’s a pretty good smoking gun that the increase in the chemical toxic load that we’ve been exposed to is a prime driver for cancer tissue.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, well, so people are saying, okay, great. Give them at least a brief understanding; not too much science, but a brief understanding of how it happens. We’re very educated here on heavy metals. A toxin like a heavy metal which today, we’re—there’s science showing that glyphosate which they’re spraying on all our food actually allows these heavy metals to go deeper into our brain, into our cells which we know is driving cancer even more. Give them a brief explanation of this because I really want—I’m building the value here on why it’s so important to detox and do it right.
Spencer Feldman:
Alright, so cancer from what we think it is now is a dysfunction of the progenitor cells which is halfway between a stem cell and normal tissue. Stem cells can differentiate and become anything. Progenitor cells have already differentiated a little bit, but they can still change their state. They can still change to become other things. Then stable cells, they do the one thing they’re meant to do. It’s this intermediary cell that’s a progenitor cell that we believe is where cancers are coming from.
The main theory behind cancer is it’s caused by a mutation of the DNA. It’s estimated six or seven mutations is what it takes for a cell to become cancerous. There is another cause I believe for cancer. I would call it the adaptation kind of cancer. I’ll explain the differences between the two of these.
A mutating cancer would be someone who’s exposed to some type of toxic chemical. It damages the DNA enough. It has skipped surveillance of the body, starts replicating, and there’s cancer. An adaptive cancer I would say is negative epigenetics. In other words, some slow toxin, and I think it’s mostly metals in this case, gets into the system and changes the environment the cell is in. Rather than the cell genetically being mutated, the cell itself adapts to the new environments. That adaptation is cancer.
I think it’s important to understand both ways in which cancer form: an immediate toxic insult from chemicals and a more gradual long-term insult from metals for us to really be able to get a handle on cancer. Of course, what we’re going to need to do is detox the chemicals and detox the metals. I suppose the first thing we can talk about is well, okay, how do we detoxify the chemicals?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, absolutely. You and I both agree that real detox starts at the cell. Our cells have natural abilities to get rid of toxins. The problem is they get overwhelmed. Cell membranes get inflamed, pathways, glutathione, all of it gets overwhelmed. Now, the cell isn’t able to get rid of toxins, even the toxins that it makes when it makes normal energy. The example I love to give, it’s like burning a fire. If you don’t have a chimney, you’re going to die. That’s our cells. They become chimneyless.
Then the second challenge is what’s getting it out of the body? You have to deal with both of those challenges. Talk a little bit about that.
Spencer Feldman:
Okay, let’s work with chemicals because metals is a different detox pathway. We can get to that in a minute. The chemical detox pathway, there’s three phases of it. As you know, there’s Phase One, Phase Two, and Phase Three. Phase One is where you attach an oxygen outer molecule to a toxin and make it more reactive. Phase Two is when you attach something else to that oxygen, glutathione, but there’s others. We can talk about those. Now, it’s able to be moved around. Then Phase Three is where it comes out urine, sweat, out of the stool. When you see people who are having detox reactions, it’s my belief that the protocol they did didn’t get all three of those phases.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s right.
Spencer Feldman:
Because what happens is Phase One will temporarily make a toxin more toxic, more reactive. If you have someone who gets a Phase One detoxifier, and they don’t have Phase Two capacity, they’ve actually just caused a worse problem. They’ve made their toxins more reactive, but—more capable of causing problems, but not necessarily more capable of leaving the body.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s right.
Spencer Feldman:
As you were mentioning, coffee enemas, this is the classic Phase One detoxifier. Were we living a more natural lifestyle, we would be eating a lot of bitter foods. Bitter foods in nature, that’s what stimulates the P450 enzymes Phase One detoxifiers. If you go to the grocery store, there’s hardly anything bitter left. It’s been breed out of our agriculture, so we get very little bitters to stimulate Phase One.
The other issue is the toxins we are exposed to. I call them stealth toxins. They’re not bitter; aspartame can actually be sweet. We are getting less bitter stimulation in our diets to upregulate our natural Phase One. The toxins we’re exposed to because they’re not bitter, they’re not what we—our genetics are used to seeing, are not triggering our body to get rid of them. They’re stealth. Phase One would be, the classic would be the coffee enema or in this case suppository. It’s how I like to do it.
Phase Two is the conjugation. That would be things like glutathione, sulfidation, so sulfur, methylation, acetalization which is B5, basically, it’s how we get rid of antibiotics, and glucuronidation. The goal behind the detox for me from my perspective is we stimulate Phase One at the same time we provide the raw materials or Phase Two. Because if someone doesn’t have enough of the Phase Two detoxifiers in their body and you give them a Phase One stimulant, again, the body will start mobilizing toxins incompletely and they’re going to feel terrible, so you give them at the same time, the conjunctive agents.
Then you have to make sure the last part, is the gallbladder full of sludge or is it a straight shot out for the bad subtle toxins? Are the kidneys operating properly? Are the main Phase Three exits open? I feel like that’s a really great way to get a handle on the chemical toxins. You Phase One, coffee rectally, Phase Two with the conjugators, and Phase Three with something that would flush out the kidneys and the gallbladder.
Dr. Pompa:
We built a product some years ago and it’s a G Cell. It combines that Phase One, Phase Two for that reason because you would follow with that. Of course, we love doing coffee enemas for that reason. Coffee enemas too you can consider part of Phase Three too because when you push that bile out, you just emptied that gallbladder which when that’s blocked up with hepatic biliary sludge, it’s magic.
Then one of the tricks that we do even with the Xeneplex, your coffee enema in a suppository, we take a product called Bind first, like 30 minutes, 45 minutes ahead of it. It has four different binders that just sit in the gut as a catcher’s mitt. We dump into that and pull it out which represents in that case Phase Three. You’re right; by stimulating that oxidative process in Phase One, you get both with that. That’s it. People have to understand that a lot of that, again, it starts at the cellular level. Obviously, glutathione at the cell, the liver, all of it plays a very critical role, methylation as well.
Spencer Feldman:
Taking fiber is a fantastic idea. I don’t recommend that often—as often as I should. In the same way that the Xeneplex was a modern recreation of the coffee enema, the Glytamins was my idea for a modern recreation of the liver/gallbladder flush.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I was just going to talk about Glytamins because we use it as well. It helps push out that bio-complex.
Spencer Feldman:
I’ve started looking at people with ultrasound. You look at someone’s carotid artery, and we can talk about that in another talk, how many people are walking around with enormous plaque in their arteries? You can also see all sorts of junk hanging out in people’s gallbladders.
There was one woman who I think she was in her 80s. It’s an interesting story. She calls me up to thank me because her headaches are gone. I said, “Oh, that’s very nice.” She had taken some Glytamins.
She goes, “No, thanks; the headache’s gone. “I’m like, “Well, ma’am, how long have you had your headache?” She said, “65 years,” something absurd. How do I say this? Is it possible that she had a gallstone for 65 years and that was what was causing all of her pain? Being able to flush out the gallbladder, I think it’s a great thing and especially because some people have, I believe mistakenly, gone on very low-fat diets. What that does is that can be a set up for gallstones.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no doubt. The Glytamins makes it easier because really doing those gallbladder flushes, they’re worse than coffee enemas; we’ll just put it that way. It’s better to take the Glytamins myself. Yeah, both of those products really assist this process big time.
Alright, well, let’s jump into a new product that really excited me that I can’t wait to carry. It’s brand new. We’re the first to hear about it right here. This is more focused on a specific—specifically cancer. Talk about the new product—we’re going to be launching it—and how it works, and why it’s so different.
Spencer Feldman:
Do you think we could talk on metals first?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, absolutely.
Spencer Feldman:
Okay, great. The other half of the equation for toxicity I think is metals. I think that we have to treat metals differently than we treat the chemicals because they cause different problems and they have to be addressed in so many different situations.
Dr. Pompa:
I agree from a standpoint you need different chelators and binders because they’re a bitch to get out. The glutathione doesn’t hold on and pull them all the way out.
Spencer Feldman:
Let me tell you what I’ve come—my thoughts on metals and in this case cancer. The cell membrane which you and I are so mindful of helping for our clients has—its job is to let certain things in and out, control the intracellular environment. It wants to have a lot of potassium on the inside, and it wants to keep the sodium on the outside, and let calcium in only under certain conditions. The way it does this is with three types of machines you might call them.
There are pumps, transporters, and channels. The pumps push things in and out. It takes energy; it takes ATP to do it. The transporters, they don’t take energy; what they do is they’re like a revolving door.
Let’s say here’s the membrane. This is something they want to get in and this is something that they want to get out, they might switch them. That would be an antiporter in opposite directions. A symporter would be they want to get both of these things in. This is going to pull in this one and they both go through. Then the last one is channels which is just a hole that things shoot through really quickly. These three things, the pumps, the transporters, and the channels are what allow a cell to maintain its housekeeping to bring in and out what it wants.
Now, here’s what happens; here’s the problem. Toxic metals can through molecular mimicry get stuck in these transporters. As an example, mercury and sodium both are 1.02 angstroms-ish. Atoms have a bit of wiggle to them; they’re not like billiard balls. They both are 1.02 angstrom in size which means that the all-important sodium channel or sodium pump, the mercury can get in there.
Now, in order for a pump, a channel, or a transporter to work—and mostly, a lot of what it’s doing is moving ions, moving metals. Let’s say it wants to bring in some potassium from outside the cell to inside the cell. It will grab onto the potassium and then pull it in and let it go. The let it go part is important. If it grabs on too tight, it can’t let it go. Now, you’ve got something stuck on that transporter, that pump; it doesn’t work.
This is what happens with the metals. Mercury or divalent mercury, in any case, has a +2 charge and almost identical in size to sodium. When the mercury gets into a sodium channel or a pump, the same size, the charge is different; it can get stuck there. Now, that particular pump can’t work. It can’t move things the way it wants.
Another example is barium and potassium. I think barium is 1.35 angstroms; potassium is 1.38. They’re very close. Again, barium with a +2 charge, potassium +1. The barium gets into the transporter for potassium. It grabs on and it just jams up there; it doesn’t let go. Think of metals as membrane glue. They sludge up the machinery that pumps the transporters, the aquaporins, the channels that are required for a cell to function properly.
Now, here’s something interesting I read in a study. It said that all known carcinogens decrease intracellular potassium and raise intracellular sodium. What they’re really saying is all known carcinogens damage membrane pumps, transports, and channels because that’s what’s keeping those things at the right levels. Also, you find a lot of calcium inside the cells of cancer cells because the pumps can’t get it out. Calcium is the on switch for a cell and a cancer cell is constantly on.
What I think metals do is they get into the membranes by looking like the ions that the transporters, and pumps, and channels want to move. They get there and jam things up. The cell is unable to regulate itself. Then what happens is over enough time, the cell epigenetically, it changes. It says, well, I can’t function in this environment with this high calcium, high sodium, low potassium. How do I stay alive? Cancer is that adaptation.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, it makes sense. There’s many theories obviously. This is another theory, but I believe it’s plausible because I know, it really is the membrane. Here’s the other factor of that. I draw that out how the metals attach to these membranes. The problem is the membrane is the critical component of changing the epigenetics. Literally, you don’t change a genome; you don’t turn on a gene, a good one on and a bad one off unless you fix the membrane. Vice versa, when the membrane’s fouled up, now all the bad stuff starts turning on in the epigenetics.
It’s a multifaceted problem just even the cellular energy component because now all of what you just described is happening in the mitochondrial membrane as well. Now, you’re not making ATP. Now, you’re driving inflammation pathways feeding back into positive feedback loops. Oh my gosh; there’s a zillion ways that heavy metals drive cancer and other unexplainable illnesses including autoimmune. It is all a cellular issue.
This CytoDetox, it has the small enough particles to get into these membranes and grab onto something strong enough to pull it out. Otherwise, if you don’t free the membrane, you’re not detoxing. I love to say everyone’s doing all these detox protocols that make them poop more, but ultimately, what you just described is the big problem. This is the area that nobody is really paying attention to in the detox world.
Spencer Feldman:
Yes; one way that you can check the health of the membrane would be with phase angle. We typically go from a phase angle of eight when we were young, peaks when we’re say 24, and then it drops down to 5.5 when we’re 70 or 80. You’ll see lower phase angles in people that are precancerous and then, of course, it’s the lower the phase angle, the worse the prognosis and shorter the survival time. I think testing phase angle is fantastic because what you’re testing is the voltage of the cell. That’s being driven by the pumps which is creating the gradience.
As an example, cancer cells usually have a voltage of between -5 to -38. I think the prostate’s a little bit lower, but that’s the rule. Then normal cells are between -38 and -93 with the exception of I think fibroblasts and some other things. As a general rule, 38 is the cut-off. If a cell goes below 38 millivolts, that’s cancer; and if it goes above, it’s not. That’s a generalization. What we know from studying is that you can take a cancer cell and stop it by raising its voltage. You can take a normal cell and make it cancerous by lowering its voltage. It’s a huge thing.
In terms of the idea of whether or not metals are associated with cancer, there was a study, there was an 18-year study following up—in Switzerland where they followed up people that had done 20 chelation treatments, so clearing out metals. There was a 90% decrease in cancer deaths. Yeah, the metals are an enormous problem, but they happen slowly enough that they’re not—it’s very stealth. If someone is at a worksite and gets solvent exposure, they’re sick right then and there. Someone gets some fillings in their mouth or has something metal exposure, slowly drains them out because it’s this other thing; it’s the voltage dropping; it’s the cells; it’s a membrane going down.
I guess what I would say is being able to get rid of metals is just as important as chemicals. Metals are more like the time bomb. The perspective I have is very close to yours. We both come to a lot of the same conclusions in terms of getting rid of things. The way I see it is the kind of things that can go inside the cells, glutathione, it can pull out metals and such, but they don’t make an incredibly strong bond.
Dr. Pompa:
Exactly.
Spencer Feldman:
It may be necessary for them not to make a strong bond because otherwise, they might get stuck in the channels. They can go in; they can grab onto the metals that can come out, but once they’re outside, they can under certain circumstances redeposit, let go of the metal and now the metal just finds its way to another bit of tissue. The perspective I have is to mate or to join to different kinds of metal remover agents at least. One, something like glutathione and the products that you carry to go inside the cell. Then once it goes in and comes out the membrane, EDTA or something with a really strong charge—
Dr. Pompa:
That’s right.
Spencer Feldman:
—to pull the metal off the glutathione, take it out the body. That functionally recycles the glutathione. It can then go back in the cell and get more. That relay system I think is a fantastic way to go and get metals out of the tissue.
Dr. Pompa:
I couldn’t agree more. Just taking something like EDTA, DMSA, or one of these really good chelators by itself, there’s more to it than that. Taking them correctly is part of what we just described. It’s key because you need those type of chelators and binders to actually move something like heavy metals out of the body. Again, where we started the conversation, keeping it moving through the liver, and the bile, and out through the gut, a critical component in Phase Three.
Exactly, we see the same. I’m going to be honest; when I look at the functional medicine world, most people are doing detox incorrectly. I’d have to say even the top names in this industry, and I’m not going to point fingers, but it amazes me that they violate the very principle that you and I just described. We’ve never had this conversation. Obviously, we’re reading literature and going, okay, well this makes sense. Now, I have an incredible advantage of doing this over many years, training doctors figuring out what works, what doesn’t. What you described is what works. I believe it’s backed by the science.
I do want to talk—I’m very excited about your cancer product, so I tried to pull you into that earlier, but I’m glad we had the heavy metal discussion. Talk about this new product that we’re going to be carrying. I think it’s going to be healthy for everybody but talk about the product.
Spencer Feldman:
Okay, so caveat, I’m not calling it a cancer product.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, okay, well, I didn’t want to mispronounce it, so that’s why. First of all, I’d of went mito and pinol. You said, “Oh, it’s Mitopinol.” I was like, okay, I’m going to mispronounce it. I’m dyslexic, so I figured.
Spencer Feldman:
Let’s say we have taken someone who we’ve pulled out as many metals as we can and they’re still staying with it. They’ve pulled out the chemicals; they’re staying with it. Remember, it’s the six or seven mutations before a cell becomes cancerous. There are numbers thrown around that the average person creates and destroys a thousand or so or ten thousand cancer cells a day with a good immune system. Those are the cells that have got six or seven or more mutations.
What about the people—what about all the cells that have four and five mutations? They’re not cancer, but boy are they close. When we detox someone, and they stay on detox, we’ve gotten rid of as best we can the causes, the drivers for the two types of cancers that we’ve discussed. We have done anything—there are all those time bombs sitting in their body waiting to go off; all of those cells that have been exposed to environments that are inappropriate because the pumps and transporters have gotten jammed up and that have mutated because of the chemicals. My perspective is that we also need to do something to deal with the cells that are problematic.
What I did is I looked into the animal world and said okay, millions of species, a lot of them get cancer; most of them do, even plants. Have any other animals—raise your hand, if you’re an animal that’s figured out cancer, please raise your hand. I’d like to talk to you. Three animals raised their hands. Okay, we’ve got ants, we’ve got elephants, and naked mole rats. Let me tell you about these three because they are the basis of the Mitopinol products.
Elephants very rarely get cancer. The idea is that it’s because they overexpress a gene called TP53. They have 20 times more TP53 genes than we do. It’s a very important gene in cancer protection. What it does is it—if a cell is getting a little wonky, that gene will cause that cell to stop, cell arrest, so it doesn’t grow anymore. Then what it does is it will fix it if it can and destroy it if it can’t; very important gene for protecting against cancer. Fifty percent of all cancers are associated with a mutation of the TP53 gene in humans.
Now, we only have one copy of this gene. If this copy goes bad, we don’t have 19 more like the elephants to back us up. What we can do is we can simulate the TP53 gene. I think the best thing for that is ellagic acid. Ellagic acid does the same things as the TP53 gene. I believe it causes cell arrest. We know it can repair genes. The reason we know this is because there are 95% less DNA atoms after someone has been taking ellagic acid.
A DNA atom is a bit of a genetic code that’s gotten damaged in getting out of the system. If you’re decreasing the number of DNA atoms, what you’re functionally doing is you’ve shown that your DNA is a healthier state. It’s got less things being removed from it. Again, ellagic acid has shown a 95% decrease in DNA atoms. Then finally, ellagic acid is fantastic for apoptosis which is getting cells to commit suicide. From what I can see, ellagic acid is a near complete replacement for a TP53 gene. I’ll be taking ellagic acid to the last day I’m alive. It’s an amazing ingredient.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no doubt. It does something. It happens in fasting; it actually stimulates autophagy where the body just simply—you know apoptosis is a part of autophagy. Yeah, it will stimulate that cell eating process getting rid of the bad cells. The innate intelligence knows. It just helps that pathway which is incredible. We’re excited to carry that product as well. I think it’s going to be a fantastic product.
I do want you to say a word about your process. You’ve been doing suppositories for 20 years. There’s a lot of other people who have come along now and are doing suppositories. How is your process different? Why is it better? I chose your product, but you tell the story.
Spencer Feldman:
Let me just finish the ants and the naked mole rats and then I’ll answer that question.
Dr. Pompa:
Okay, I thought you were done with that. I figured the naked mole rats and the ants have more.
Spencer Feldman:
No, they’ve got their own things. If 50% of cancer is associated with the TP53 gene and 50% of us die of cancer, that means in our lives, a quarter of us are going to need some help with this gene. That’s the elephants’ world. That’s how we can be more like elephants. How can we be more like ants? Ants very rarely get cancer and they have virtually no immune system. What they do have is a spectacular genetic repair system. They basically said, we’ll repair ourselves so fast, it doesn’t matter what you throw at us.
There’s an ingredient, it was discovered by Hans Nieper, a great physician from Europe called iridodial if I’m pronouncing it right and I might not be. Basically, it’s an ant extract. Iridodial is an aldehyde. I would love to see some chemical pharmaceutical house make this stuff by the kilo; as far as I know, they don’t. Until then, if we want to have this kind of ant defense mechanism, we’re going to have to eat concentrated ants, ant extract. Fortunately, it doesn’t taste very bad.
Third thing: the naked mole rat. The naked mole rat as opposed to the elephant, the naked mole rat is actually immune to cancer. You cannot create cancer in a naked mole rat in a laboratory condition or at least that’s what I’ve heard. It also lives seven times longer than its most similar sized say house rat or mouse. It lives longer by seven-fold and is basically immune to cancer. I wanted to understand why this was. What the naked mole rate does is it creates a different kind of hyaluronic acid than we do; I think it’s five times bigger. That’s the connective tissue that we’re built in. I believe what happens is the hyaluronic acid is the first thing that cancer has to get through to become invasive.
Now, the naked mole rat Number One makes an enormous amount of hyaluronic acid of a slightly different kind that we do. It has very downregulated hyaluronic acid enzymes. Meaning the enzymes that would break hyaluronic acid down, it doesn’t really make it. If we want to be more like the naked mole rat, then it would be increasing our hyaluronic acid intake, but at the same time, suppressing our own endogenous enzyme production for that enzyme which breaks down hyaluronic acid. The Mitopinol product was based around these three animals: the elephant, the ant, and the naked mole rat.
Dr. Pompa:
I’d argue it would be good for your joints as well potentially because hyaluronic acid plays such a key role in your skin as well.
Spencer Feldman:
Yeah, sure. That was the intention. What I said is okay, what are the ways in which we people typically die is heart attack and stroke. That’s the same thing, just in a different location. Then cancer. I said okay, what animals if any have dealt with cancer? The whole cancer angle from my perspective is detoxify chemicals and metals and then take a lesson from these three animals that have such amazing cancer defense systems.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s beautiful, Spencer. We’re going to be carrying your new—you mentioned heart disease and strokes as the Number One killer. We’re going to be carrying that product. We don’t have time to talk about it today, but we’ll have you back for sure. Just give them the name of that product, so they will see it here on—at least Revelation Health will be carrying it.
Spencer Feldman:
Sure, that one is Rubeplex. I’ll tell you a little bit about it just as a teaser. What happens is we—when the blood starts to get too coagulated, it starts to erode the arterial wall. Plaque is basically a failed healing process of an arterial insult. More on that one later. That one is called Rubeplex.
To answer your earlier question, what got me into suppositories and how are we different, there’s a lot of ways into the body: powders, capsules, injections, transdermal, intranasal, and suppository. The reason I like suppositories is a couple of things. One is some of the best ingredients don’t survive digestion or don’t survive it very well, so we bypass the digestive tract. It’s not mixing up with a bunch of foods, and liquids, and getting worked on by acids and enzymes. It’s in the rectum and it goes—suppositories go right through into the portal vein right into circulation, so we get a much higher absorption. Take something like serrapeptase for instance or ETA, perhaps these are 5% absorbed orally. You can get a lot more into the body as a suppository.
Another thing about it is location. It’s right there against the prostate and the portal vein to the liver. If you want to work on those two organs, that’s a great way in. Another thing I like about suppositories is they’re sealed from light and from oxygen when they’re made, so they’ve got a decent shelf life.
What makes us different? We are the longest running suppository manufacture in the US that makes things for the alternative community, the alternative health community. We’ve been doing it for 20 years. We make everything ourselves. In terms of ingredients, we don’t put in a lot of the things that other people do to make their equipment run better. What’s not really spoken about is all the fillers, and lubricants, and binding agents, and chemicals that are used in a manufacturer of supplements.
As an example, a lot of suppository manufacturers will use [00:41:13] which is a synthetic base which is mildly toxic. We use cocoa butter. It’s more difficult to use cocoa butter. Ask anyone who makes chocolate who’s a chocolatier, they’ll tell you cocoa butter is a little challenging to work with, but it’s clean. We make everything ourselves in our own lab. There’s nothing in it—everything that’s in it is on the ingredients. We don’t use anything that—we don’t use solvents to clean equipment. Everything is done in a way that I would want for the things that I’m taking for my family that I make for other people.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s why we use you as well. Spencer, thank you. This is a great show. It’s really putting the word out. I think it was great explanations on cancer. Your products are great, too. Thank you for being part of what we do.
Spencer Feldman:
Thank you, Dr. Pompa.
Ashley:
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