Transcript of Episode 194: How To Take Back Your Health
With Dr. Daniel Pompa, Meredith Dykstra, and Christine Clarenbach
Meredith:
Hello, everyone, and welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I'm your host, Meredith Dystra. This is Episode 194. We have our resident cellular healing specialist, Dr. Dan Pompa, on the line. Today we welcome a very special guest. Her name is Christine Clarenbach. She has quite a story to share on Cellular Healing TV, which really speaks to so many of the different strategies that Dr. Pompa uses to help people get their lives back.
I know Christine is willing to share her story to inspire so many of you who are listening and watching, to share tools and ways to get your health back on track. Before we dive in, let me tell you a little bit more about Christine. At a young age, Christine endured both physical and emotional trauma that has led her to a lifetime of searching for a solution with multiple illnesses ranging from the after effects of being poisoned as a child, toxicity from breast implant surgery, Lyme disease, and much more. She spent years seeing several medical doctors and naturopaths along with many other practitioners, yet her health was still declining. Throughout her search for health, Christine pursued certification in both massage therapy and biomagnetic care therapy.
Later in life still not having an answer, Christine stumbled across a video of Dr. Pompa and quickly became his client. Her passion to find an answer has led her to become a platinum practitioner with Health Centers of the Future and is owner of Altum Radices where she is dedicated to helping others reclaim their lives. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV, Christine. We're so excited to have you here and encourage you to share your story.
Christine:
Thank you so much for having me. This is good.
Dr. Pompa:
I couldn't wait to bring our viewers and listeners your story. You are a cellular healing doctor now, so from pain to purpose, no doubt about it. I just said before we got on the show, you transformed even the way you look just since you and I started working together.
What a story you have. If I want people to get anything out of this story, number one, you have to get upstream to the cause. You did everything. You ate perfect. I can go through the list, and you still weren't well. You and I together started uncovering a lot of these hidden stressors, physical, chemical, and emotional.
As we uncovered these things, as we addressed these things, life started to get a little better. We're not there yet. As a matter of fact, I noticed this. People never want to give their story or their testimony until they're completely on the other side. It's completely foolish because by then you forget a lot of the journey.
No doubt, you have come a massive long way, and I can't wait for people to hear this. Let's start in. We mentioned breast implants. You had wisdom teeth, which we found cavitations. You had amalgams, you had mercury, and then you had massive emotional stuff too that needed dished out. You can start where you want, but let's get them to understand where you came from.
Christine:
From a very young age I was challenged because at age three I actually was hospitalized for unknown reasons. It's been kept a secret from me all these years, and I still don't know what happened. I spent a week in the hospital, and I don't know what happened.
Dr. Pompa:
I'll just say this on your behalf; there's an amazing emotional trauma even with that. There's suspect that maybe a loved one was part of that, and you actually were poisoned, and that's why you ended up in the hospital. Just so people can know, that's how emotional that actually was. If a loved one poisoned somebody, you end up in the hospital, imagine those emotional scars.
Christine:
I was actually poisoned at age seven. Three was another mystery. It could have been poison then too. I'm not really sure. At age seven I was, and I actually did die three times.
It's kind of mind-boggling to me because I always wondered why I was still here. There's kind of a weird story around that. I don't think I've shared this with you, Dr. Pompa, but this is a real emotional piece for me.
I had started seeing a natural doctor, and he was going through all the questions with me. One of the things he said to me was, “What do you like to eat?” I was like, “I guess anything.” He goes, “What's your favorite food?” I had no answer for him.
I could give or take food. It's not really that important to me. I eat because I have to. He looked at me and said, “Dead people don't eat.” It really kind of made me stop and think about it because I was like that's really crazy.
For the longest time I tried to figure out what I really like to eat. It was really hard for me. That was a real emotion break for me because it made me think about I don't really care for food. It was really just eat to survive kind of thing. He went on and on about explaining to me about that, and he was a shaman as well. He could read me very clearly. That was really an interesting part for me.
Since then I can tell you that I love to eat, since I found true cellular detox and the ketogenic diet and breaking through that piece of emotion for me. It was awhile after that when I finally broke through that and realized — what he said for me to do was talk to my little Christine, my seven-year-old Christine that died because you need to connect with her, and you need to tell her that she's safe, and nobody can ever hurt her again. That's kind of what I did everyday for a long time, and I still do it. He told me she was angry with me because I made her live. She didn't want to live because of the trauma.
The emotional piece was probably the biggest challenge for me in all of this, and I really want people to understand that. I meet people all the time who don't think the emotional piece is important. They don't think that emotions have anything to do with being ill. It was a huge piece for me, and I'd been through a lot of different therapies for that. The T3 Emotion Code really was probably the best for me because it gets really deep into your childhood.
I was really emotionally a wreck going through that, ups and downs, and your resentment, hate, all of it was coming out. I was exhausted, and I didn't know what was happening to me. When I got to the other side, I realized I just released a lot of stuff. The emotional piece is huge.
At that point I continued on, and into my early teens I was diagnosed with a borderline muscle weakness disease. I was an athlete, and they knew something wasn't right. They did testing, and they told me I was borderline for a muscle disease, which was traumatizing in itself because I love sports. I did very well at sports, but I always was exhausted.
Soon after that, I think I was 19, I had a car accident. I got whiplash, broke my front tooth, screwed up my jaw. I had to go through jaw surgery after nose surgery because they told me it was my sinuses. They actually put me on antibiotics for a year. They kept telling me my headaches were from sinus infections, which wasn't the case at all. It was from my jaw causing the headaches.
They put me through the nose surgery, and then a year later I ended up having to go through the jaw surgery. The scar tissue was built up so bad between my disc and my joint that I could hardly open my mouth. They went in and scraped it all out. It's gotten better. It's definitely better.
Soon after that, I think I was in my early 30's when I was told I had Lyme's disease. I don't ever remember getting bit by a tick, but I probably did and didn't even realize it. Then I had my fillings removed. I had several fillings. I think I might have had seven or eight fillings.
At that time I had three root canals because I had a root canal in the front from my car accident and two on the side from just teeth that broke. I had all of those removed. Then I also had breast implants in my 30s, which soon became toxic. That was huge because I could never figure out why I couldn't get well no matter what I did.
After I had all the amalgams removed, my dentist sent me to this doctor that was part of their group. She told me I had to go to the spa. It's -inaudible- Spa. It was five hours a day of herbal treatments and hot oil treatments that I had to do. I was on board with anything, so I signed up and went. She said, “If you do this, all of these heavy metals and toxins will be out of you, and you'll be like new.”
Dr. Pompa:
I wish it were so easy.
Christine:
I'm going. I went, and at the end of the week I thought I felt a little bit better. Within less than a week after that, I was sicker than I'd ever been. I was so sick. At that point I wanted to give up. It was just too much.
I felt like I had tried everything. Obviously, I hadn't. I continued on my journey and ended up finding different things that I kept trying. I'd get a little relief. The thing is all these people were detoxing me, as you know, and they weren't doing it right. I'd get a little bit of relief, and then I'd get sicker. Then I'd get a little relief, and then I'd get sicker.
Six years after that I found you. I started watching your podcasts. Somebody sent your video. I really became obsessed because I knew by listening to you, I resonate with you, and I knew you had the answer. It all made sense that you had to go upstream and get to the cell and have the right binders. That was key, the binders and going upstream to the brain and to the cells.
I watched all your videos. Then I ended up hiring you to be my coach, and I knew I needed you to get me through those breast implants coming out. I didn't want to be on all those antifungals and antibiotics, pain meds. These women were on so many medications that they weren't getting better. They were only getting worse after their implants came out.
Dr. Pompa:
Let's stop there for a moment because as Meredith pointed out before we started recording, we really haven't spoken a lot about that. I'll let you speak to it, but there's a few problems. Number one, these things end up moldy. Number two, they all leach is what new studies are showing, and they actually even have heavy metals.
There was a couple articles even in some papers that came out about how toxic these things are. I find that we have autoimmune that never clears up. It's literally these breast implants are an upstream source. Talk about that, and talk about what happened even after they were removed. You had some rashes that were even in that area. Talk about it.
Christine:
I did have mold growing in one of the implants in the valve where they fill the breast implant after they put it into you. I had that, and then I had mold floating inside the breast implant as well. I used to have rashes across my chest constantly, down on my stomach. I never knew what it was. I had no idea.
Then after they were removed, it got worse. There's 37 different chemicals just in the breast implant, not including the saline or the actual silicone that's inside breast implants. I had the saline, but there was still 37 neurotoxins inside of me.
Dr. Pompa:
People are told it's just saline. No, it's just saline and 37 other chemicals, some of which are heavy metals.
Christine:
Exactly. For probably a month, two months after having them removed, I stunk so bad. I could get in the shower and clean and clean and scrub, and I'd still stink. It smelled like medical, chemical. It was really disgusting.
I knew that I was pulling this stuff out. I was taking a lot of binders to bind it and a lot of CytoDetox. It was crazy. I feel so blessed that I found you and got these things out because I had no idea that these things were festering inside of me and making me sicker and sicker.
Dr. Pompa:
One of the things I always say if you're not getting well, there's still something upstream you're missing. That may seem like the obvious, but there's many people watching this going really? These things are toxic. They don't bother me. I don't have rashes like she had.
Well, let me tell, they all leach these chemicals, and it's a strain on the immune system. No doubt, big mistake. We prepared you going into it. We did things after it to make it successful. Talk about some of these big, hidden dangers.
You are the poster girl for every hidden stressor. I mean, you are. We have covered from the emotional stuff to the breast implants. Let's talk mouth now. Walk us through this because there's a lot of recent finds here. Talk us through it.
Of course, you had amalgams, got those removed. I'll just point this out. When people take amalgams out they think I've done that. Meanwhile, that mercury vaporized into the brain, and there is the trapped, inorganic mercury that will be there for your lifetime, only to cause problems in your 60's and 70's later on in life wherever it lodges, and what parts of the brain determines what symptoms it causes and what diseases.
The bottom line is the amalgam is gone, but inorganic mercury is still loaded in the brain. Of course, we're going after that in you now. Talk about some of the dental pitfalls.
Christine:
I did find a biological dentist when I wanted to have all my amalgams removed. I went to him and not only did I have my amalgams removed, I had all of my root canals removed. I don't know how many years after that, at least the last six years I've been going back to this dentist saying my teeth hurt. My gums are shrinking. I don't know what's wrong.
Where he pulled out these root canals on both sides of my jaw, the bone kept shrinking more and more. Every time I went to him, he would tell me my teeth were fine. He doesn't understand what my problem is, and this went on and on. He basically treated me like I was crazy. I think he convinced my husband I was crazy.
My husband stopped going to the dentist with me. He's like I'm not going anymore because I know he's going to tell you you're fine. Through Dr. Pompa, I found a new dentist in New York. I went and saw him, and he was mortified. He said that I had plastic fillings.
When they removed the mercury, they put plastic fillings in my mouth, told me it was a safe material. Every single one of those fillings were cracked, and food was leaching in underneath all of those fillings. I had cavities underneath every single tooth that they had put fillings in. The new dentist had to replace every single one of those fillings with new material. He literally had to drill so much of my teeth because the cavities were so bad.
In fact, I ended up losing one of those teeth because it was so bad. It was infected. On the bottom where all the bone was missing, he told me the way they removed those teeth, they took way too much of the bone out. That's why I had these really deep pockets now where there's no bone. That was just devastating for me. I'm still working on having this done.
The bummer part is that this guy is listed as a biological dentist, and I trusted him. He basically took advantage of the fact and gave me plastic fillings and ripped out all my bone on both sides. Now I'm having to have it all repaired, and this dentist in New York is working with me. I've got a few more visits. I've been there four times this summer, and I don't know how many more times I'm going to have to go back.
Dr. Pompa:
Getting an infection is devastating. Again, where you had most of those infections, you had no pain. You would have had no way of knowing. I tell you, there's so many people who are still sick. Root canals are always infected. That's why you took them out.
Evidently, he didn't [decavitate] underneath it well enough, so more infection was there. We say 75 to 85% of all disease starts in the mouth. I'm telling you, these hidden places. Where you had your wisdom teeth extracted, did you have them look for [cavitation] there? Did they find any infection there?
Christine:
They did a 3D x-ray scan on me. He says there's none there. That was a gift.
Dr. Pompa:
You had enough of it. One of the things I know when I got my infections out, they almost move from one place to the next. That's how clever these things are. I've told this story on past ones, but they [decavitated] one area. It was under a tooth where infection was getting. It was a partly impacted wisdom tooth.
It ran up to a place where I had a [cavitation]. It was another [cavitation], but it went in there. I had severe pain. I thought I was going to die. My head was coming off.
These infections are another reason why people can't fix their gut. You'll never fix your gut if you have silver fillings leaching mercury into it. Forget it. If you have these infections, dropping infection in there, knocking your immune system down, you're never going to fix your gut either.
Not to mention, these infections are going systemic, completely driving inflammation and autoimmune. That's obviously a part of what you've been working on now, just getting those things straightened out. What other hidden stressors did you find along the way?
Christine:
Candida has been a big issue, like you just said. I hadn't been able to completely get rid of Candida. I was doing really good up until I had to take the antibiotic for that infected tooth. It got a lot worse. I ended up getting that Progurt that you said to get. That is really working, the fastest I've ever seen anything work.
Dr. Pompa:
One of the things that we do with the gut, and we can share that, is we want to switch around different bacteria, which we've been doing with you. We had you on Restore, closing the tight junctions, changing up different bacteria. Prescript-Assist offers these soil bacteria. Progurt is actually human strain bacteria.Right now there's a group of practitioners and doctors experimenting with Progurt. One of my patients told me about it, Cameron George, who's been on the show. He found it and said, “Try this. It really helped me.” I said, “I'll try it with our doctor group.” It's kind of where we experiment with everything. All the gut work, that seemed to help you a lot.
Christine:
Yes. That definitely helped. The sleeping is much better, but that's probably been one of my biggest things is insomnia. I know you know what I'm talking about. It's brutal. When you don't sleep, you feel like you're going crazy.
The anxiety that goes with it is just awful. That's gotten much better. I still have nights where I don't sleep so great, but I've been monitoring it. Some days I feel like I didn't really sleep, but according to my ring here, it's telling me I did. It's a lot of light sleep and a lot of REM sleep. I'm still not getting a lot of deep sleep.
Dr. Pompa:
How much deep sleep are you getting? I'm just curious.
Christine:
Sometimes it's four minutes. Sometimes it's 26 minutes. Last night was 26 minutes. Sometimes it's ten.
One time it was an hour and nine minutes, which shocked me. That I know I'm still needing to do work with. I think the more toxins I get out, the easier it's going to be. It's just continuing to get these toxins out.
Dr. Pompa:
When it comes to sleep, sometimes melatonin works. This works, that works. We've done it all, but the only thing that really fixes it permanently is as the toxins come out of the brain, the sleep eventually comes back. It's years, not months, folks. You hear me say that all the time.
Where are you in the brain phase? I know where you are, but share with them. You're actually up to a really good dose of a fat soluble binder, ALA, and Brain DTX. How did that process go?
Christine:
I'm actually on my 13th brain phase. I've gone through a lot of brain phases. I just took a two-week break from it. I'm starting back up tomorrow. I've been traveling a lot, so I just needed to be able to function.
Sometimes I can't, but sometimes I function better when I'm on the CytoDetox. It's pretty interesting. It goes back and forth, back and forth. I'm doing 200 millligrams of ALA 3 times a day when I'm doing that. I do ten drops in the morning of Cyto, in the afternoon ten drops, and in the evening ten drops along with the ALA.
That has gotten to the point where it really does make me feel better. As long as I don't get on the [Beamer] at the same time. That's going well. I'm still doing all the protocols.
I love the intermittent fasting and the diet variation. I love the ketogenic diet. Right now I'm not in ketosis. I had to cut back from it because I'd been in it for so long. That was hard. I still find myself getting into ketosis and not trying to.
Dr. Pompa:
You've done it so long with the diet variation, it makes you so efficient. The same kind of thing.
Christine:
I love ketosis. Your brain just feels amazing on ketosis. Right now I do a smoothie for breakfast, which is usually around 11 o'clock. Then sometimes I'll have a fat bomb or a salad or something for a late lunch. Then I have a normal dinner. I hadn't really been doing that.
I've been doing a lot of 16-hour, 24- hour fasts because I just felt good, and I didn't want to eat. I loved when you had me do on Monday the 24-hour fast, Wednesday it was a 42-hour fast, and on Friday it was another 24-hour fast. I like that one a lot. It's easy once you get going.
Dr. Pompa:
That variation, we use what I like to call metabolic fitness or mitochondrial fitness. It stresses the cell. It stresses our mitochondria where we make energy. Bad cells don't adapt, so your mitochondria get more efficient as a fat burner, produce less inflammation. You end up just with stronger cells.
That's why fasting 24 hours, fasting 36 hours, throwing a feast day in there. We're confusing the body. The body will adapt with hormone optimization. It will adapt with growth hormone. It will adapt with more sensitive cells to hormones. You get this hormone optimization when you put those variations in there even weekly.
Of course, like myself, seasonally you're doing it where we moved in and out of ketosis. Every time you leave a diet, we know now that your microbiome changes. Even seasonally when we move into ketosis, we're changing our microbiome. Out of ketosis, we're changing our microbiome.
That adaptation makes a stronger, more diverse microbiome; therefore, we get stronger. Our cells get stronger, so hormone optimization, diet variation creates microbiome diversity. All of it makes us better, and that's what we all notice.
Christine:
Something I didn't mention too is after I had my amalgams out, which was kind of important because this happened to me, and I'm sure it happens to a lot of people. I became hyperthyroid. I lost so much weight. In fact, I thought I was dying because I couldn't gain weight. I just kept losing. It was like my skin was just hanging off my bones.
All of a sudden it just became hypo. I did a lot of research on that, and I did find that a lot of times after having amalgams removed you can become hyperthyroid. Of course, I wasn't being detoxed properly. Had I been detoxed properly, I probably wouldn't have gone through all that. It was brutal. Sometimes I think hyperthyroid is worse than hypo. I don't know.
Dr. Pompa:
What happens when they come out, even if this is done perfectly, once they're out, the body starts mobilizing metals. That mobilization, the mercury starts getting around the thyroid receptors, and it drives autoimmune. Your body looks at that mercury attached to one of the receptors because there's selenium on there. It pulls the mercury, and it looks at it as foreign. Guess what? It drives the autoimmune.
It starts attacking the thyroid receptors, and that's when you end up hyper, then hypo. It happens all the time. Mercury in thyroid conditions, forget it. It's 95% of the time associated. Meredith, I know you have some questions for Christine as well.
Meredith:
I think for probably a lot of our viewers and listeners as well who are watching this and hearing all the challenges you've been through, Christine, they're probably thinking where did you start with a case like this where there was so much going on with the implants, the Lyme. I think you mentioned parasites, Christine. Where do you even begin to start with a case like this when you've recognized R1, these stressors, where there were many of them. Where do even start with a case like this to not go in too hard to push too much of a reaction, but also start to make progress? Where did you start?
Christine:
I had started before I met Dr. Pompa. I was obsessed with all of his videos, and I was watching. I would buy all these different supplements. I ended up buying all the stuff in the prep phase, not knowing that it was eventually going to be a package. I didn't really know if I was taking things right, but I would do that.
I got the Bind, I got the Cyto, and I was playing around with it. I think I had gone through six brain phases before I even met Dr. Pompa or should I say before I hired him as my coach. Let me tell you, it was brutal. I wish I had just hired him right from the get go because I really was a mess detoxing. I think I was detoxing too fast. I didn't really know.
Dr. Pompa:
Christine, that's a good point. The packages are for people who are relatively healthy. You were to the point where you have these challenges. You need a coach. We all do. People hire coaches to improve their golf game.
The dosing is different for everyone. The cycle length is different, the support, the target, everything's different. You learn through experience. I know what to do when. This is happening, this is what you do. Now you're that way. You're coaching. Why? You learned it. You learned it the hard way.
Christine:
I definitely know that I needed to take more drainers and have more -inaudible- and more GCEL. I didn't know any better, so I really was feeling the detox brutally. I knew that I was going to get somewhere because I knew it was getting to the brain. I really had some brutal days, but once I came on with Dr. Pompa, it got so much easier as far as not going overboard with my stuff and taking a step back and realizing that I had been overdoing it.
Dr. Pompa:
My passion, as you know, is teaching doctors around the country, practitioners like yourself to do this. What we have works. What we have is real. It's upstream. We understand that it's years, not months.
Our goal is to teach people the process, and it is different for everybody. By the time they get through, they learn it. That's like you. You're life's changing from a physical standpoint for you. Now look at yourself as a practitioner and how equipped you are from pain to purpose.
Christine:
Absolutely. I've learned so much from Dr. Pompa, and so many of the other doctors as well. Just being part of this group has changed my life completely. I don't know where I'd be if I hadn't found you. I'd be sicker than I was at that point.You have taught me so many things that you're right, it's like I know now. I need to do this, I need to do that, and this is what I'm lacking. This is what I need to do less of. It's been great.
Meredith:
We all learn and grow together too, and I'd love for you to share, Christine, too what are some of the differences in your life now, comparing it before to now with maybe physical symptoms but also just emotionally?
Christine:
One of the things I had badly was brain fog. When I was in school, grade school was the worst. I had a hard time reading. I had a hard time with comprehending anything. That just continued through adulthood.
I would say up until about two months ago, I finally started seeing that clearing. I feel like every day is better and better. When I read something, I can retain it. It used to be so bad that I drove my husband crazy. I'd read something, and I'd be like I've got to tell you what I just read. I'd start to tell him, and then I would forget. I've got to go get the book because I don't remember what I just read.
It was really bad. I really thought I was losing my mind. Whenever I needed to tell him something, I'd go I've got to tell you something, and he'd be telling me something, and I'd totally interrupt him. He'd look at me and go I'm talking. I'd say yeah, but if I don't tell you now, I'm not going to remember.
We just kind of got used to that where as if he was telling me something, I rudely would interrupt him and say I've got to tell you something. He knew if I didn't tell him right then, I wouldn't remember. That's how bad it was.
Dr. Pompa:
Do you know how many people have brain fog? It's literally the brain degenerating. The only way to fix it is getting the neurotoxins that have bioaccumulated in the brain out. All of us are being exposed to glyphosate. That's the chemical being sprayed all over our food. Studies are showing it's pushing the metals that we grew up with, the heavy metals, the lead from our mothers, the mercury from our mothers, and then there are exposures along the way. It's pushing it deeper into the brain. It's no wonder we're a world of brain fog. It's years, not months, getting that stuff out.
That's why you say each month it gets better and better. I remember after four or five years thinking my memory is better now than it was in my 20's. I didn't even know it wasn't working until it started working.
Christine:
That's how I am. I feel like I can just remember things now, and I can be more creative. That's huge for me. Now that the sleep is getting better, I think my brain is getting better. It's finally waking up or something.
Dr. Pompa:
Every bit of it plays in. Usually people have it all backwards. I need to do this to fix my hormones or this to fix my gut or this to fix my sleep. No, you get rid of the toxins upstream the right way, this stuff eventually corrects itself. Christine, thank you so much for sharing. Your story is the perfect story for people to understand the importance of going upstream.
Without going up the stream, you're not going to get well. Without going to the cell, you're not going to get well. That's our mantra. Now you speak it too. You're a life-changer too, cellular healing, no doubt. Thanks for being in our group. Thanks for being a practitioner on the mission of cellular healing detox.
Christine:
Thank you, Dr. Pompa. Thanks for healing me.
Meredith:
Thank you, Dr. Pompa and thank you, Christine. Once again, you are a walking testimony, and I know your story is going to inspire everyone who watches and listens. Thank you so much for sharing, for being vulnerable, and I know you're going to impact a lot of people. All of you, thank you so much for listening, for watching.
We're going to list all the products on the transcript page. If you're curious about any of the products we talked about, they're going to be listed on the page for easy access. Thank you, again, for listening, for tuning in.
Please share this episode with anybody you know who's experiencing some of these challenges or who might really resonate with this message who needs to hear it. Please share it. Have an amazing weekend, and we will see you next time. Bye-bye.
Christine:
Thank you. Bye-bye.
