348: Mold: An Epidemic in our Homes

Brain Fog? Weight Gain? Unexplained Illness? You've heard me say it, but It could very well be mold. Today I welcome Mike Adams, who has been involved in mold remediation for 15 plus years. During that time, he has patented a piece of equipment and a process to rid homes of mold, toxins, and bacteria.

He’s here to share with us today what is happening to our homes, how has mold become an epidemic, and what some of the factors are to look out for that make homes more hospitable to mold. This is a topic that I know many of you have asked about, and I cannot wait to share with you today.

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Mike is the founder and Chief operating Officer of Pure Maintenance. He has been involved in mold remediation for 15 plus years. During that time, he has patented a piece of equipment and a process to rid homes of mold, toxins, and bacteria.

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Dr. Pompa:
Health Hunters, this episode is for you. How many people have brain fog, anxiety, can’t sleep, sudden weight gain, just absolute chronic fatigue, weird muscle aches, problems, pains, right? All right. I talked a lot about mold but the problem is, is oftentimes, you’re in a home. You can’t afford to get it remediated. You definitely can’t afford to move. Oh, man. When I found this, I literally teared up. It worked. Wait until you hear the stories around this inexpensive mold remediation, so unexpensive that I can’t tell you how many people just have done this to their home just to make sure because they’re mold sensitive that they don’t have mold. This technology is going to change our industry. Wait until you see this episode. Oh, and by the way, they have these around the country now, and we have broken through with mold remediation. Oh, wait until you see this show. Check it out.

Ashley:
Welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m Ashley Smith and today we welcome Mike Adams who has been involved in mold remediation for 15 plus years. During that time, he has patented a piece of equipment and a process to rid homes of mold, toxins, and bacteria. He’s here to share with us today what is happening to our homes. How mold has become an epidemic and what some of the factors are to look out for that make homes more hospitable to mold. This is a topic that I know many of you have asked about and I cannot wait to get started. Let’s welcome Mike Adams and of course, Dr. Pompa to the show. Welcome both of you.

Mike Adams:
Thank you. Appreciate it.

Dr. Pompa:
Mike, gosh, you are such a godsend. Not just to me but to the doctors that I coach and train as well as the thousands and thousands of people who are going to watch this show because mold is one of the reasons, hidden reasons typically, why people still don’t feel well. Why they have unexplainable illnesses. Why they wake up in the middle of the night, can’t get back to sleep or if they do sleep through the night, have massive fatigue, massive brain fog, anxiety, digestive problems. I mean, the list goes on and on and on. One of the things that I have discovered over my years, 20 years of industry search of neurotoxic illness, is that mold is one of the three things that I say most people miss and also really detox incorrectly.

The reason I hate mold the most, I believe it’s evil. I mean, even biblically, it talks about mold in Leviticus 14. What to do? I’ve watched lives just be decimated by mold. It’s horrible. I really believe, out of all of the neurotoxins, it’s the most evil of all. I really despise it. One of the big challenges we always have with mold is—I have clients that they aren’t able to move and yet they’ve tried to get their home right because there’s hidden mold and yet they can’t get it right. Remediation they’re saying could be 30, 40, 50,000, who knows. Okay. When I heard all about Pure Maintenance, the technology, I was hopeful but skeptical.

Now I have not only used this in my home but I have used it now with many clients. Two of which that I’m thinking about right now were not able to go back in their home. After your treatment, they were able to successfully go back into the home and not spend the $50,000 in remediation. Those people are grateful. There’s thousands of others out there. With that as an introduction, thank you. Yes, I’m going to ask the obvious question. Tell us a little bit about this treatment. Why it’s so different. Why it works and why it can penetrate behind walls and every crevice, and that really is part of the solution.

Mike:
Yeah. Let me explain just the basics of the treatment. We recognize years and years ago, that when you got mold in the home, physical mold, then you’ve got mold everywhere in the home. For example, you have a flood in the basement, you see mold down on the basement wall, well, what you could see is a fraction of the overall—what I call mold load of the home. There are little areas in the home that just produce mold. It’s in the drainage of every sink. It’s in your clothes. It’s in every bathroom. Then when you couple that scenario—window sills. When you couple that scenario with a few floods here and there or a few disasters, homes just naturally climb the mold load overall.

We recognize that the entire home has to be treated. You can’t just spot treat this. That’s one of the complaints I have against traditional mold remediators is they want to go in and find out where the visible mold is. We’ll tear that out and call the house safe. That’s the farthest thing from the truth. It’s not safe at all. You’ve got mold everywhere in the home. What our process does is—the piece of equipment that we patented produces a dry fog and it’s hydrogen peroxide and acetic acid. Those two together—yeah.

Dr. Pompa:
By the way, I have to say this. This was a big deal because my people, if you will, are extremely chemically sensitive so oftentimes mold treatment goes from basically worse. It becomes much worse for them because of the chemicals. This is basically hydrogen peroxide and vinegar if you want to put it simple, right?

Mike:
Yeah. Chemically, after we’re done fogging, it takes just a few minutes—literally, it breaks down to oxygen or water when we’re done.

Dr. Pompa:
That’s awesome.

Mike:
What our equipment allows us to do is fill the entire space of the home up with a dry fog. The fog will, as you know, Dr. Pompa, get so thick it’s hard to see across the room. Actually, sometimes it’s hard to see your hand in front of your face but absolutely, nothing gets wet and it leaves no residue.

Dr. Pompa:
It didn’t. I mean, there was nothing. No residue anywhere in my house. I’ve had it done twice. There’s a reason for that. We’ll tell that story but go ahead.

Mike:
That we’re ablet to run it through the HVAC system. One of the magic parts of this process is that we put it in with a positive pressure. In other words, we have a lot of compressed air going into the house along with the fog. The fog itself actually goes through a vapor phase change and it increases the vapor pressure in the home as well. What this does is it pushes the fog into every crack and crevice where mold could possibly be hiding. When people say, will it get behind my wall? If the mold could get behind the wall, the fog will get behind the wall because we’re actually a smaller particle than mold spore and we’re being pushed in with pressure behind it.

That allows us to go ahead and sterilize the entire home. That process takes, depending on the size of the home, but a typical home, two to three hours. Then, after we’ve done the sterilization, we’re going to now—the whole idea of step two is to make the home inhospitable to mold in the future. Mold has an advantage over bacteria because it can come in and dance around for years until it finds moisture and food and then, it’s off and running again. We take that luxury away from mold. It doesn’t get to come in and dance around. The way we do that, we have a process where we fog another ingredient. Essentially, I would give you the name of the chemical—in fact, I’ll tell you. It’s trimethyl oxopropyl dimethyl ammonium fluoride.

Dr. Pompa:
Got it.

Mike:
Yeah, right. That sounds crazy and a little bit spooky but it’s not. It’s a nitrogen molecule with carbon atoms stacked on top of it. What this does is it forms spikes on every surface in your home covalently so you can’t wipe them off. They’re there. You can’t feel them. You can’t see them. They’re too small. The positive charged spikes—if you could picture in your mind’s eye the space that occupies the head of a pin, there’ll be about a million spikes in that space.

Dr. Pompa:
That’s crazy.

Mike:
It is. The beauty of that is mold has a negative charge. When mold does come in your home again, and it will, from the wind or whatever, just the outside air, as soon as it touches anything in the home, because it has a negative charge, it’s attracted to that positive nitrogen charge. It pulls itself into the spikes. The spikes pierce the outer membrane and it just cannot survive in there. It gives you really good long-term protection from mold ever being a problem again.

Dr. Pompa:
Gosh, I mean, I’m telling you, I think I teared up when I found this process, this product because I know the lives that are just ruined from this. I have to say, it’s inexpensive. I mean, you’re talking somewhere in the realms—you have places, and here’s the other good news. You have places that you’ve licensed around the country. We’re going to give you a number. We can call the number and speak to them directly and find a location. Anywhere around 70 cents a square foot is about right. Is that about a good average?

Mike:
Yeah. Some areas are maybe a little more. Maybe 80 or 90 cents a square foot but that’s the ballpark, yeah.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, okay. I think it’s extraordinarily—again, when you look at the expense of remediation and the ineffectiveness of the remediation, oftentimes using toxic chemicals and frankly, they don’t get where the problem is. They don’t get into the problem areas, behind the walls, [00:10:12]. This technology does. Then you put on top of that, where you’re literally mold proofing is fantastic. The people who watch this show, Mike, they’re extremely sensitive to mold and the biotoxins mold produces. I can’t tell you how many people already—that just said, look, I’m just going to do it in my home just to lower my load because they’re that sensitive.

They don’t need to waste money trying to find mold because as we know, mold’s very difficult to test for. I’ve had many people just treat their homes. It’s inexpensive and why not just treat it. I’ve had a lot of my sensitive clients do just that which I recommend, everyone. If you have any sensitivity to mold, find a Pure Maintenance licensee and do it in your home. I think there’s other benefits to that too. You might want to talk about them.

Mike:
Yeah. Along with mold or fungi, it’s effective against bacteria and it’s actually [00:11:20] is on the EPA N-list for COVID.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I know.

Mike:
For viruses. Yeah, it will make your home antimicrobial. We’ve seen some amazing things over the years. Just received amazing letters from people that thought that they were just going to have a life of living in a wheelchair and things had changed for them. They’ve gotten well. It’s really a cool thing to be part of.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. I told just a couple of stories that I had but off the top of your head, do you have any of those stories that you could share?

Mike:
Yeah. Actually, let me tell you how we got into the health side of this.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, because this wasn’t—tell that story because this wasn’t developed for that. You actually fell into this but tell that story.

Mike:
Absolutely, fell into this. Heaven sent fell into this but when we started this company, I owned a company and we were cleaning medical facilities and surgical centers. That’s how we got interested in dry fog because as you know, cleaning surgical centers should scare everybody to death. You’re squirting and wiping. Nothing’s really happening other than you’re scooting the germs around. Thus, they let it sit in an aqueous form on that surface for 10 minutes which I can tell you, nobody’s doing that or very few people are doing that. It’s just not an effective way to sterilize a facility.

Finding out about this technology, I invested some money and—we invested some money and some time and tried to market this idea to medical facilities and couldn’t get anyone to listen to us. We had a lot of meetings with a lot of hospitals, a lot of surgical centers, and they were all like, well, Mike, it’s a good idea but there’s no return on investment here for us. In fact, I had one guy say to me—he was a CFO of a hospital and he says, “Mike, what’s my return on investment?” I said, “Well, I guess, less dead people. That’s all I’ve got for you.” We just couldn’t get any traction. Couldn’t get off and going.

It just hit me one night lying in bed. Wait a minute, let’s do homes for mold because I knew mold was an issue. I didn’t know the health side of the mold. I just knew people don’t want mold in their homes. We started fogging with this other piece of equipment before we had received our patent and we were doing pretty well. We were doing mostly real estate transactions where the inspector [00:13:49] mold. We’d go up and treat the mold, take a test, it’s completely denatured. We’re good to go. I got a phone call from a lady and she said, “Mike, I’ve read your website. My daughter has a terrible rash. She can’t get rid of it. I need you to come fog the home.”

I was taken aback. You might have the wrong number here. I’m not a doctor. I don’t know anything about the health side of this. She said, “No, trust me.” She said, “I feel like I’ve been led to your company. I need you to come fog our home.” I went and fogged it and the tests came back. They were good. I didn’t think much of it. About three weeks later, she called and she said, “Mike, I told you so.” I was like, “You told me what?” She said, “My daughter is well. The rash is gone.” She said, “I need you to go see my doctor.” Again, I was taken aback. No, I don’t want to go see a doctor. She said, “No, this needs to be out there.” This customer actually paid for the doctor appointment down in Provo.

I met her down there and I introduced the—the healthcare practitioner came in and this customer said, “This is Mike Adams. He owns Pure Maintenance. I paid for a half-hour of your time, doctor. Mike, tell her what you do.” It was that simple and that weird. I started to explain what we do and the doctor actually started—like you mentioned, she started to tear up. She said, “This is unbelievable.” I said, “What? What’s unbelievable?” She said, “Mike, if this really works…” She said, “I can’t tell you how many people I’ve had to tell them to leave their home. Just leave. Leave everything behind. Start over.” She said I could have saved all of those a lot of heartache. That same practitioner and her partner have been sending us work for about 12 years now.

Dr. Pompa:
I had a gentleman who couldn’t bring his stuff into his home. He was that reactive. After Pure Maintenance did it, if you will, he was able to actually bring that stuff in his home. I mean, it is a godsend. How you ended up from that to this is I think absolutely remarkable. Changing lives now on a much bigger level honestly.

Mike:
The growth of it has just been a miracle as well. You say, what, 28 months ago, we had nine licensees. Just a little over two years ago, nine licensees and now we have 141 licensees throughout the country. It just grew.

Dr. Pompa:
I know some of your people even drove a few hours for people which was fantastic. You’re based right out of your good old Utah.

Mike:
The mold capital of the world, Utah.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, but Florida I would say is the mold capital.

Mike:
Actually, we have 17 licenses in Florida.

Dr. Pompa:
Thank God. Yeah, because when I go there, it’s just one bad mold situation after another. It’s a great story. It really is. How it came to be. I really believe it’s a godsend because the people that are so sensitive and I said this—let me tell my story. I believe in it so strong. I was like, look, I just want my house treated because I’m sensitive. I mean, certain strains of mold make me sick. My children as well. At least, two of my children. You treated my home. It was amazing. There was no residue like you said. I had one area of concern but it went into there. No problem at all. All perfect. I couldn’t believe how dense the fog was. It was pretty amazing watching the process. The simplicity of the process.

I do all that and I don’t know, is it a month later or two months later? Anyway, okay. I have a water burst. My basement floods. I mean, unbelievable. I literally called Mike and I said, “Do you have a remediation guy?” He said, “Well, use this guy.” Which I did, and then Mike is such a blessing, they came out and retreated after just to make sure that nothing—it was good. I just so appreciate that but it tells you how your heart is, so thank you.

Mike:
Maybe I should throw this in. We here in Utah do this and we encourage all of our licensees. As far as I know, they all do this but we carry a one-year guarantee on this. That we’ll come back anytime over the next year, retest to make sure you’re okay. If you have any questions. The way we teach our licensees is that, testing has its own inherent flaws to it. Our best judge of whether we did a successful treatment or not is, is the healthcare practitioner and the patient happy with it? Are they seeing good results? If not, we’re going to go retreat it until they do feel better.

Dr. Pompa:
I have to say, my son, Daniel who’s probably the most sensitive of all—there was always suspect of this one wall. I could smell something. We never found mold. It never tested for mold but you all did a before and after air sample anyway. Anyway, I never smelled that again, so whatever it was, the smell disappeared. My son said, “Dad, my deep sleep has changed dramatically.” I don’t know what it was. We never found out what it was but it changed that. I was going to pull up a picture of just how dense it was. Hang on, one second.

Mike:
Sometimes it’s the cumulative effect of a bunch of different areas in a home. Whether it be mold in the window sills or in the bathrooms or in the sink drains or wherever. Sometimes it’s just the—like I say, the cumulative effect.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. I think that your philosophy of, you treat the whole home. One of the things you did—again, you measured my mold levels and they’re within normal range. I mean, every house has a certain level of mold. Even still, it still dropped it dramatically before and after. I was looking for the picture of Jeremy who did our treatment. Amazing guy by the way. He sent me some pictures of just the density of the fog and how it was penetrating. Anyway, I was looking for it. I should have pulled it up ahead of time.

Mike:
Yeah. Like I say, it’s hard to see your hand in front of your face sometimes. It’s so thick.

Dr. Pompa:
Again, the amazing part about it is not one film, not one residue. You would never know. When I came back in the house, which was probably, I don’t know, maybe four or five hours later, it smelled like vinegar frankly. At least, that’s what I thought it smelled like. I opened up the windows, it dissipated. No problem at all. All of my very chemically-sensitive people did amazing with the treatment. Not one problem. I want to put out one of the things that’s important is that many people, like you said, will have a place treated. They forget the most important place of all that’s making them sick and that’s their HVAC system. The mold is throughout the ductwork.

Those companies come in and if they spray it, it doesn’t work, number one. Number two, it’s toxic as heck. That’s part of the treatment as well is you push this stuff through the HVAC. Again, oftentimes where mold is, is where they have gaps like where it’s running in the attic or behind the walls because condensation—cold air makes condensation and molds outside of those you’d never know it but your treatment is actually getting those areas behind where the HVAC ducts run.

Mike:
Right, yeah. We see that a lot in—we see it everywhere but particularly in high humidity areas where they’re running those air conditioners hard, sometimes 24 hours a day. Those air conditioning coils are soaking wet, just full of mold.

Dr. Pompa:
One of the things I always tell people is, always keep your fan always on especially in this humid condition because it keeps it dry. If it stops, mold forms. Yeah, just like that. No, I mean, you have to treat everything. Every crack, every cranny, everything, everything in the house. The other thing too is that, oftentimes, the thing that makes people sick is the soft surfaces because of the biotoxin. Not the mold spore. It will penetrate into couches, et cetera. Your product gets in there, correct?

Mike:
Yeah, yeah. Absolutely. We’ve done some crazy—we’ve tested where we put the indicator strip in an envelope, put the envelope in a file cabinet, close the file cabinet drawer, fog that room, and then, two hours later, we take the indicator strip out which turns black if it has the right concentration of [00:23:02] on it. Sure enough, that indicator strip in the envelope, in the file cabinet, had turned black.

Dr. Pompa:
Wow.

Mike:
It’s extremely penetrating. The real secret is two things. One, with our equipment, we can break it down to tiny, tiny particles. Somewhere in the range of 7.5-micron particles.

Dr. Pompa:
It’s described as a nano particle at that point.

Mike:
Yeah, absolutely. Couple that with the knowledge that it’s the vapor coming off of that particle that’s actually doing the work. Between that vapor off of the particle and then that, like I say, the positive pressure in that room or in that environment, we can get just about—we can get anywhere a mold or spore can get, we could get.

Dr. Pompa:
If you’re someone who has brain fog, weird anxiety, weird symptoms, gained weight suddenly, can’t lose weight, can’t sleep, depression. I mean, you’re not hormonally right, mold could be your problem. Obviously, my detox, I’ve been doing this detox, Mike, for many years. However, the problem with mold is this remediation side. It’s one of the reasons myself and my doctors hate and despise mold because either people financially can’t move, they can’t do the remediation, and we won’t get them well until we solve the upstream problem. I have something I teach called my 5 R’s. R number one is removing the source and we despise mold because the source is so hard to remove.

I’ll tell you this is a godsend because we’re able to finally inexpensively deal with an upstream root. Now, granted, after we get—when the home becomes safe then we have to get it out of your cells. It’s funny because the process is very similar. How it works and how we pull it away from the body and the bowel complex. The positive, negative reaction pulls it in. We’re doing the same thing in the body that you’re doing in the house.

Mike:
Yeah. I’ve had a number of doctors tell me that, make that exact same analogy, yeah.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, exactly. We’re basically taking advantage of yeah, the negative charge and utilizing the positive charge. Anyway, again, there’s a number here. You can contact that number and they will direct you to the closest licensee of Pure Maintenance in the country. Tell them you saw it on Cell TV and they’re going to take extremely good care of you and you’ll see that. Mike, thank you so much for coming on our show.

Mike:
Thank you. I appreciate it.

Dr. Pompa:
Thank you for discovering this, honestly. You have been a blessing to so many of us already so after this show it’s going to be thousands more. Thanks for coming on.

Mike:
Okay. Thank you, Dr. Pompa.

Dr. Pompa:
You’re welcome, Mike.

Ashley:
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