All new! Today I welcome back a special guest, Entrepreneur and inventor, Tom Lowe.
Tom has pushed open the door to healing with Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation, otherwise known as UBI – an important therapy tool for chronic disorders. His new book Invisible Cure explains the details of how UV light therapy may bring healing to thousands of hurting patients. We always love sharing the newest therapies here on Cell TV, and this one is nothing short of exciting.
More about Tom Lowe:
Entrepreneur and inventor, Tom Lowe has pushed open the door to healing with Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation. His innovations and research have validated this therapy that has a 90 year history. Now his new book Invisible Cure explains the details of how UV light therapy may bring healing to thousands of hurting patients.
He is a solid Christian, father to 11 children, husband to one wonderful wife – going on 50 years. In the 18 plus businesses that I have started this is favorite as it helps hurting people.
“After running a clinic for a year – just to test UBI, I was a believer. Helping people is a great privilege. Supporting those physicians who are on the front lines is another honor.”
My organization SOPMed also teaches over 500 physicians and medical personnel each year in UBI and ozone therapy. We have seen over 750,000 therapies completed in the last 10 years.
BSc -University of Wisconsin – Science and Education
Environmental hazmat mitigation and consulting for over 25 years
Designed and manufactured HEPA systems
Software company used by National Association for Pupil Transportation, Michigan School Business Officials and the Michigan Association for Pupil Transportation
Designed software on Blood Borne Pathogens, Right to Know, Haz waste, Pesticides.
Developed software for Hospital preparedness for Bioterrorism
Co-founded an alternative health clinic in Michigan
Developed Physicians UBI Awareness Center www.DrsUBI.com
President of SOPMed – Society of Progressive Medical Education
Developed a top alternative medicine conference for 5 years – SOPMed
Co-developer of the CE certified medical device for UBI – Ultralux UV
Taught physicians in Japan, the Philippines, Ukraine, Mexico, Cuba, Spain, Guatemala, San Salvador and around the US.
Currently working with over 500 physicians of alternative and Integrative physicians and clinics around the US and world. As they develop their UBI and ozone programs.
Author of the definitive guide to all things UBI called Invisible Cure.
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Dr. Pompa:
I tell you what, this is an episode. I find the new stuff, whether it’s for helping specific conditions or anti-aging. Well, this combines it all, a good friend of mine, Tom Lowe. This is one of my favorite therapies that I have done. You’ll hear my experience.
You’re going to hear a breakthrough about something that I’ve been trying to get the word out on this. It’s a combination of two treatments you may have heard of, but I’m going to leave you in suspense because there’s so much here. Tom wrote a bombshell book about this with more evidence and scientific research than probably one topic that I’ve ever seen. I even wrote a review of the book because of how powerful it was. Look, if you’re someone that’s seeking to get your life back or someone who’s trying to live longer healthy like me at this point, watch the episode. Check it out.
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Ashley:
If you’re listening to this podcast and want to access the amazing CytoDefend product Dr. Pompa just mentioned, please visit freeimmunity.com. Again, that’s freeimmunity.com. Hello, everyone. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m Ashley Smith, and today we welcome back a special guest, entrepreneur and inventor Tom Lowe.
Tom has pushed open the door to healing with ultraviolet blood irradiation, otherwise known as UBI, an important therapy tool for chronic disorders. His new book, Invisible Cure, explains the details of how UV light therapy may bring healing to thousands of hurting patients. We always love sharing the newest therapies here on Cell TV. This one is no different. Let’s welcome Tom Lowe and, of course, Dr. Pompa. Welcome, both of you.
Tom:
Hey, glad to be here. Thanks, Dan, I appreciate that, and Ashley. I’m ready to go.
Dr. Pompa:
Tom, I love you and your family. It’s just always a pleasure. I look at you all as the—if I have a question on ozone, it’s coming to your family. This is very different. This is taking it to a whole other level.
I love finding these really unique therapies. For me at this point I’ve got my life back. Many people watching it or seeing this are looking to get their life back. Listen up. Pay attention.
This is a very unique therapy. However, for me it is about living longer healthy now at this point in my life. Every time I see Tom, I want this. I spoke at your seminars. I’m in line. I want it every day I’m there because I walk away from this treatment, and I feel like cloud nine.
I’m telling you, there’s a few treatments that I would speak that about where I actually feel—that’s not against some other treatments where I don’t feel amazing right after. They’re still good for you, but this is one where I walk away and I feel it, honestly. I really do. I’m energized. I feel different after I do it. Let’s give our viewers and our listeners just an overview of what this unique therapy is and why it’s different than other ozone therapies because the word ozone was in there. This is different, so give us an overview.
Tom:
Both ozone and the UBI, ultraviolet blood irradiation, has been around for 70 years, 80 years; UBI a little bit farther, 90 years. They are two separate therapies, but they’re synergistic. When you’ve got a good therapy like ozone and you’ve got a good therapy like ultraviolet blood irradiation, combining those has this effect. They’re both immune modulators.
People are sick. They want to get over this, and they just don’t know what to do. It’s chronic. They’ll go get an ozone treatment or possibly a UBI. The two of them together—and most of our docs do that. They put it together. This is a combined therapy.
Ultraviolet blood irradiation can stand on its own and should. It’s the idea of taking a small amount of blood, 60 cc, a quarter cup, something like that, putting it with saline, and then letting that drip by a specialized light, UV, A, B, and C. We’re adding now some other [05:27] spectrum [05:28] in there. The light is absorbed into the blood and travels around the body and actually causes immune modulation.
The book that I wrote, Invisible Cure, is just about UBI. It’s needed. Twenty years ago a guy named William Campbell Douglass wrote on this, and he called it Into the Light. For that time, it was fine.
I’ve been able to do a year’s worth of research and 12 years of working with this and finally did the brain dump on pages and put it into a format that almost anybody can read. It starts lighter in history and what happened and how things worked. Everybody finds that very interesting. Then it gets a little deeper.
Dr. Pompa:
By the way, I wrote a great review of the book. You can get it on Amazon. It’s loaded with information. Sorry to interrupt. I just wanted to [06:25].
Todd:
No, that’s okay. Your viewers just need to know there’s tools out there for the alternative physicians. One of them is UBI. They can ask for it. Do you do ultraviolet light therapy?
It needs to be a doctor that pulls some blood out. Then ozone is added to that. The emphasis today is just the UBI and looking at that. In its own right it is then—you probably don’t know after all the research because you know I taught and teach on ozone. We teach about 500 doctors a year now and physicians and medical people.
Dr. Pompa:
I’ve been to your seminars and your [07:07] is amazing.
Todd:
UBI actually has a better record with infections and getting rid of infections. In the [07:18] it was used in about 50 hospitals, but it was all clinical. These were doctors—women dying from the different infections that occur and people coming in and not knowing they would be moribund or near death. This thing would pull 40%, 50% back from that. If it was any other kind of infection, it was a 98% cure.
This is just the ultraviolet light therapy. It was more complex. They had to have different machines. They had to cool the light bulbs down with water. They had gears on it. It’s all in the book.
In fact, on our website we’re going to have a link there. You can watch one of the old Knott machines. We were up at Robert Rowen’s, and we filmed one of those old machines. You’ll hear me talk about it in the book a little bit. It was kind of fun. I tried to add a lot of variety, the old stuff, the new stuff, and then the studies that we were able to nail down and come up with. It’s all kind of put in this 300-page book.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. It’s just loaded with information. I don’t want to get us shut down here nor do I want you to make claims, but there’s been a lot of evidence. You’re saying the UBI is even better than ozone for certain things. There’s been a lot out there about ozone with COVID.
People are very angry because it was so effective. Again, it’s not you making these claims, but others at how effective it was. How does the UV compare to even ozone with this relevant virus?
Tom:
You just have to go back in the studies, Dan. That’s the one thing that UBI has is a lot of studies on viral infections. Whether it’s hepatitis or is an influenza, any kind of viral infection, it had extremely good effect with. I had some anecdotal doctors use it and say it really works well.
Again, we were slated to potentially do a study, and we went through the rounds that many places do. It was a hospital that wanted us to do it with the UBI. It just didn’t go anywhere because it was shut down. It just is not the favored type of therapy. Now that I see all the stuff that’s been going on, you kind of go why would they listen to UBI?
It’s got history, and it’s got the studies to it. It’s good if people have any kind of viral infection.I tell people just—who don’t know anything about it, I say it will kick shingles in two days.
Dr. Pompa:
Wow!
Tom:
If you have a shingles flare-up, you’ve got the virus, the herpes virus. It flares up. You’re immunocompromised, so you’ve got a problem with your system. UBI, it’s like a slam dunk of quieting down that rash, and you’re not going to get the neuropathy, the pain from it. It’s not going to last for months. Two days, usually one, maybe two treatments and it dries right up.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s awesome. By the way, there’s a link here, InvisibleCure.com. We’ll put the link in where you can learn more. People are visualizing what this actually looks like, awesome pictures there. Your whole picture of your family, that was what I was impressed with, and you’ll see this massive family. That’s Tom’s family. I mean, it’s pretty vast, all world changers, by the way. Anyways, you’ll see how they do it. It’s just how they’re combining these two incredible therapies. It might answer your questions.
Also on that site for many of you is find a doctor. I asked you that right away. I’m going to have a lot of viewers who want this. Like you said, I mean, 400+, maybe 500+ practitioners that are trained in this around the country and maybe even more units out.
Tom:
Trained on the machines and active, yeah, mm-hmm.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, and so find a doctor. By the way, we have a lot of doctors of all types watching this. I’m a believer. Man, this is the way to go in your clinic. Even from a time perspective if I was a physician. You get it done pretty quick. Quote me if I’m wrong. I’m just basing on my own experience. It seems to turn around in about 30 minutes. Am I right? Okay, 45 if it’s a…
Tom:
Yeah, you’re about a 30 to 40 minute by the time they set up, hook up, do the drips, get back, and clean it all up. Forty-five minutes is pretty easy to do.
Dr. Pompa:
I know some things—look, anything ozone related, light related, I do them. Again, the research around it even from antiaging standpoint let alone infection and other problems, it’s pretty vast. I love the therapies, but some of them are very long and—this is so simple if I was a practitioner looking to put it in my office. It doesn’t bog down your staff and your office, and it’s highly effective, obviously.
Tom:
Right, and there are different levels too as you had at our last conference. We have a higher dose level that combines a higher dose of UBI. Ten-pass was popular. We made it simpler, faster, easier, cheaper, and just as effective. That was a combination therapy, and that’s probably an hour therapy, a little more complex, but there’s choice if you come in…
Dr. Pompa:
Ten-pass can be an hour and a half, two hours.
Tom:
Oh, yeah.
Dr. Pompa:
It depends on how fast it moves through. I think that was one of the questions I originally had asked you. Hey, the 10-pass has been world renowned for getting rid of infections and making your feel amazing. How does this compare to 10-pass? One of the which is it’s way shorter and easier if you’re a practitioner to put in your office because you don’t have someone there constantly moving the blood around. Talk to us about from a patient or a client standpoint.
Tom:
Yeah, ozone is more popular than UBI because it’s got more practitioners and more organizations, and worldwide, it’s been out there a little bit differently. Really, 12 years ago I picked the ball up of the older units for UBI and made that work and made it better and more intense. It’s been my area of study, so I’m pretty familiar with it. If you’ve got a niche you’re good in, it’s only that big, but it’s okay, half the size of a sugar cube.
Consumers, the ease of doing the UBI and the UBI ozone together is so—it’s so easy for a practitioner or for a patient. It’s 60 cc of blood in a syringe, a little bit of ephedrine. Put it in a bag of saline and let it drip back through the machine back to the patient. The next step up is that HD, and that’s where we actually pull out 300 cc with a pump, and we add a massive amount of ozone, 70,000 micrograms. Now, a normal one would be 3 to 4,000, so we really bump that up. It’s safe. We’ve done over 12,000 of those now in the last year and a half, and it’s been very, very successful.
Dr. Pompa:
You’ve done several on me.
Tom:
Oh, yeah, we have and Joe Mercola and some others. Then that next level up of the 10-pass, they put in 140,000 micrograms, but they don’t have any UV light. If you say compare them, I say better than 10-pass because we’ve got the UV light therapy along with the high-dose ozone therapy, so we’re pretty excited about that that we’ve got these two different levels that consumers can have and physicians too. We train in this. Every week we’re training, five, six, seven trainings. A lot of it’s been remote with COVID and stuff, but it’s been really good. We were just primed to switch to the remote when COVID hit. When it hit, it’s like we’re ready, and we went.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s awesome. If I have a practitioner watching, where can they go for the trainings?
Tom:
They go to SOPMed, S-O-P-M-E-D.org. It’s Society of Progressive Medical Education but SOPMed.org, and it’ll have everything there. It’ll talk about what trainings you can get. I think we’ve got six or seven different trainings. We can do one-on-one Zoom in your office. We’re starting to resume some in-office training also, which is all we used to do, and then it went it remote. It’s just so much better now. They don’t have to leave their office. They can bring their staff in and be one-on-one with [Kim] and work with it.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s great. You mentioned a few others. What have you seen this treatment work so well for? I mean, obviously, you mentioned shingles, viral infections. What else have you seen?
Tom:
In the book, I’ve got a whole list of the studies. There about 210 studies. Now, I have to thank a guy named Ken Dillon, who’s in Washington DC, a researcher, and he has written two books on UBI. He also wrote reviews on this, but he did all the Russian and German studies. He spoke both, and he said, “Yeah, I only live three stops down from the library.” He spent a lot of time putting his books together and graciously allowed me to use his data in there too.
We’re talking cardiovascular. If you’ve got issues with your heart, this is a therapy that you should really look at. Again, in the book, they can go right to that section and read the studies, boom, boom, boom, and go through those things. The bacterial and viral infections are obviously one that’s pretty clear. You can just go back—you imagine, Dan, this is before antibiotics. I mean, they didn’t have anything, and this thing rolled in and was curing patients left and right. In 1940, the AMA had a full newsprint ad, and I actually restructured it and did it and put it on the website. They were promoting this like mad as, hey, this is the next cure for infections.
If you go past the infections, then you get to the autoimmune. Now, autoimmune can work with—you’re talking rheumatoid arthritis, lupus, allergies, asthma, rash, any of these things where you’re reacting, and again, what you want to do is quiet down the T cell activity that’s occurring. Sometimes ozone works, but sometimes it’s five, six, seven treatments. I had a number of doctors call me that said we found that UBI alone works better for autoimmune. They’ll mix it with the ozone. I’m not saying they can’t or they shouldn’t ever. Doctors do what they want to do, but I think UBI is quite powerful for the autoimmune of quieting the system. Immune modulating, too high, brings it down. Too low, brings it up. That modulation is really an important issue, and I think UBI does that well.
An interesting one out in Idaho, we had a doc who was OB-GYN. You might know him, but he did a lot with working with pregnancies, pregnant mothers. We’ve talked about some serious things that occur in pregnancy, and he’s found really good effects. Then I found the studies on it. You take a look at it and go you’re concerned about your baby and your health, and you don’t want drugs? Look into that chapter and read that on OB-GYN.
Surprisingly, of course, pulmonary, any of the tuberculosis, lung infection, COPD, very good results and then one I wouldn’t have expected but in my studies is mental issues. They’ve done UBI on schizophrenics, depression. We’ve got the studies on it, and you’re dealing with basically a nondrug therapy. You start to go through these things, and you go it’s too good to be true. I’m not trying to say silver bullet for everything. It’s not, but man, it’s a great tool for any doctor to have in his office; kidneys, mental disorders. Cancer, it’s an adjunctive therapy. Many cancer clinics use this. It helps with immune modulation, anti-infection, just the whole detox situation.
Like I say, it’s covered in the book. When I got done with it, Dan, it was like—and you’ve written a number of books. You go, oh, now what do I do? Everything’s dumped into the book, but at the same time, I’m glad to talk about it here. Thanks for letting me.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, listen, it’s an amazing resource, honestly. As you said, I mean, so many conditions that people are suffering with today. I mean, it’s so relevant, oh, my gosh. I think it’s great because you have backed it with the studies. I mean, that’s how relevant the topic is. At least there’s more than anecdotal evidence when you resource the book, and it’s in one place in your book.
Yeah, how about senescent cells? I said in the beginning here that my interest is antiaging. Obviously, senescent cells, aka, zombie cells, cells that live too long, especially immunosenescence cells, immune cells that live too long, they drive problems in the body, inflammation, autoimmune, food allergies. I mean, when we look at these cells that live too long, obviously, more common as we age, does it—is the research showing that it knocks down those senescent cells?
Tom:
That’s a good question. I’m wondering if ozone may do a little bit more with that with their ozonides and their peroxides and their mixture within the blood. The energy that goes into red blood cells—now, this does have a stimulation to create new red blood cells in the bone marrow, so there is some stimulus there. We know there’s a little bit of knock out of the red blood cells that aren’t up to what they should be, so there is some infusion of new red blood cells. Antiaging, again, it’s one of those tools in the toolbox. I have docs who just—they’ve got it in their office. Once a month they just do it. Why not?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I would.
Tom:
I’m here. I’m going to do it.
Dr. Pompa:
Honestly, I want to get it myself, and I just have to put it in this local clinic. I’ve stuck myself before. It’s not easy when you’re hooking up all that stuff.
Tom:
Yeah, it is not easy when you go into that kind of stuff. The fun part of the book was digging into the history. Now, very few people get this advantage as—these are pioneers like Rebbeck and Knott and Miley and a host of others and these are the guys that were promoting it. They formed a society, the International Blood Radiation Society. They had their minutes, and they had their members. They met once a year and they promoted this thing. Rebbeck’s office kept all those files, and a guy called me a couple years ago and said, “Hey, do you want to buy all this?” That was before I writing the book. I said, “Nah, that’s okay.” Then I go, “Wait; yes, I do.”
We worked out a deal, so I probably have 2,000 letters of correspondence between these guys talking about what’s going on. I have all of their sales brochures. I’ve got all of their notes from their meetings, who was all involved. When I wrote the history on this, I talked to Emmett Knott III, who’s the grandson, and I talked to someone close that I know who talked to Emmett Knott II, which was the son. We got some of the deals. The AMA and Morris Fishbein, you probably heard that name, made him a deal. You either sell us the machine for $1 million or we’re going to cut you out. You’ve heard this before. It’s in the book but Harry Hoxsey and the cancer and Raymond Rife and what happened in the ‘40s and ‘50s with the AMA. It’s maybe akin to today; a little cancel culture going on.
Dr. Pompa:
I know.
Tom:
That’s all in the book, interesting read. I saw where he got married and how he found his wife and what he did and how he moved into this realm. It’s quite an interesting story. Time magazine had two articles on him in 1940 and then in 1949, so you put all that together, a consumer can go, oh, wow, that’s neat.
Dr. Pompa:
Robert Rowen, modern day, I mean, many of my practitioners know who he is, right?
Tom:
Yeah, sure.
Dr. Pompa:
I know he’s had a role in UBI. Explain to our viewers about that.
Tom:
I met him years ago. I met Robert when I first developed the new machine. He said, “Wow! Look at that. That’s really good. It’s got the bigger bulbs, and it’s got more energy to it.” We struck up a friendship, and I went up and trained at his place in Santa Rosa for a number of years. I mean, Robert wrote the first cure that time forgot 20-some years ago which combined the studies of Miley and Rebbeck and these other guys and tried to make the case for UBI, which he did at that point in time.
Michel Hamblin, the Head of Harvard Medical Photobiology Department, wrote three years ago “Is it time to remember the cure that time forgot?” He did a review that was published, published review on UBI. Robert wrote the original one. We still talk, and he did write a review in the book here for me. I mean, you guys are very gracious looking at this and saying is this something we can review and say thumbs up and had a lot of good reviews? Robert was a friend and, again, writing that review. He uses UBI. It’s fairly part of his practice.
Dr. Pompa:
Robert was one who convinced me of the effects of cavitation, hidden infections in the mouth some years ago. Oh, gosh, it was a long time ago, but I watched him inject someone’s infected root canal. They didn’t know. He pulled the person from the audience. They didn’t know he had it infected, and he did some muscle testing and said, “All right, we’re going to do this to your root canal.” He put some procaine in the root canal, and the person was like—their knee pain was gone. I mean, it was like—now, he explained it won’t last, but he was proving the connection of infection here to a systemic body problem. He did that probably three or four times from randoms, and then people wanted to come up. It was like, okay, that was it. I took it to a whole ‘nother level of my research and how infection affects the body.
With that said on that topic, how does it work with chronic infection, so many people with Lyme today, so many people with chronic infections from other multiple reasons? We can look at acute infection as one thing, but I can tell you chronic infection is another. What’s your take on that? A lot of it gets in the biofilm. Does it help?
Tom:
Yes. Somebody just wrote me the other day, and doctors do write me. I’m more than willing to take their questions, whether it comes to info@SOPMed.org. Somebody asked me on the biofilm issue. Lyme is complex. There’s a lot of things that go on. It depends on the time and the length of time and the history of the person, and it’s so debilitating sometimes for people. They get this chronic infection. How do you get rid of it? I don’t say either ozone or UBI get rid of biofilms and take care of the virus and bacteria. In fact, it’s one of the just…
Dr. Pompa:
Biofilm is normal. Biofilms are normal in the body too, right?
Tom:
Yeah.
Dr. Pompa:
I mean, it helps our—so it’s these infectious biofilms that become problematic.
Tom:
Yeah, and people have the idea that you can either take ozone or UBI and it’s going to kill the bacteria or virus in the body. It doesn’t do that. Ozone combines immediately with the blood.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s right.
Tom:
You have ozonide. UBI combines with the hemoglobin and the red blood cells and travels around. They’re modulators. They’re going to help the system. They start a cascade. Let’s start here, move here, move here, and they start to work systemically in the body. Yeah, ozone can be shot into one area and have that kind of effect. UBI ozone is a systemic issue. You need probably with Lyme six, seven, eight treatments, but after three or four treatments, they know there’s a difference. It’s not like I’m guessing at that point.
You do it, and your body’s starting to get better and better and better. There’s other tools to use too, obviously. You’ve got exercise. You’ve got diet. You’ve got detox. You’ve got these other areas, some of your stuff. It just has to be part of the total practice that goes into this thing.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it has to be a multi-therapeutic approach. I want people to hear that again. I think the old—even now, some of the thinking is, oh, I’m doing ozone or UBI to kill., and it really isn’t. It’s an immune modulator. Believe me, if I injure a joint, I put some ozone in there, and wow, it stimulates healing. That’s really what’s happening here. You answered the question. We can improve the body’s systemic immune system, upregulate. I look at it as even almost acts like redox where it improves communication. It activates the body into healing, and there’s probably a lot of things we don’t even know, Tom.
With my next question, when you wrote the book, did you discover anything that surprised you? Did you holy cow? I know when I write books it drives me deeper than I normally would’ve went. Was there any shocks?
Tom:
Yeah, that’s a good question. Every chapter I wrote, I’d write one at a time and then go, “There.” Then I do research, research, research, write that chapter, and go, “There.” Yeah, I think the personality of Emmett Knott was interesting just to see—can you imagine hauling around something the size of a file cabinet to show people in hospitals that this thing is going to kill infection? He did that tirelessly for about 15 years, and I thought good for you Emmett Knott. I’m standing on his shoulders.
Dr. Pompa:
What were the dates of that? When was that?
Tom:
They first discovered 1928. He had this idea. He was an X-ray technician. They knew that UV light killed bacteria and virus. He said, “What if we put UV light in blood?” He’d take a dog. He had this apparatus. They put a patent together, he and another guy.
They tried it on dogs, and they’d infect the dogs with a staph infection and do UBI. About five days later, the dog died. They did it over and over. He had a vet friend. I don’t know where these dogs are coming from. The machine broke down when they’re part way through it, a third of the way through. He said, “Oh, okay, forget it.” That dog lived and cleared up the staph infection.
Dr. Pompa:
Interesting.
Tom:
They found out they were over—they were taking all of the blood and irradiating it, running all the dog’s blood through and irradiating it.
Dr. Pompa:
See, they thought that that’s what—they thought they were killing, so they were running it all…
Tom:
Yeah, they thought they were killing.
Dr. Pompa:
Immune modulating, yeah, exactly.
Tom:
Yeah, later on they found out, hey, what are we going to do? Do we either cut the light or do we cut the amount of blood? They cut the amount of blood, and they found out it was very effective. A year later, before it was ever accepted for humans, his friend, Lester [Edblom], his sister was dying of sepsis from an abortion. They didn’t have anything. They knew she was going to die. They said, “Go ahead. Do it.” She lived and had two children after that, a successful life, and that started it.
It was the dogs, then right to humans. Then you started getting it into hospitals and doctors saw. There’s 151 studies on just the Knott machine. We’re talking 20 different authors, about 30 different maladies, in 15 different publications over a period of 20 years. It’s there. It validates it. These are clinical studies. They’ve got all of the data.
We look today. We can’t do that kind of thing. How expensive would that be? It’s all there.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I could ask—this is a great question. Have you seen The Knick, K-N-I—like the Knickerbocker Hospital in New York? It’s on Netflix, The Knick?
Tom:
No, I haven’t.
Dr. Pompa:
Okay, you got to. You have to. You’ll love it and my viewers too. I’m talking to you all as well. It’s the history of medicine, and it’s very accurately done. After each episode, they talk about how they found that history and how they kept it so close. It’s amazing. I mean, I could go on and on. Syphilis is a great example and how they treated it.
The first successful treatment, he heated people up to this ungodly temperature, I mean, between life and death, and they were putting arsenic in with it. I mean, the woman survived, and it was pretty remarkable.
You talk how the whole big thing, and they were X-raying people back then for two hours, radiating them for two hours. You look where it was in history and where we’ve come. I tell you, one thing you gain is you go, oh, my gosh, we should really question some of these things that we’re doing. Like you said, this was safe then, and it’s gotten even better. Some things, you question its origins. It’s crazy.
Tom:
If people want to know, I mean, just—let’s talk about validity, and I started this 12, 13 years ago. We’ve seen three-quarter million treatments since that time, so it’s ongoing. Every week we’re seeing about 1500 treatments done around the country, very successful. It’s not that it’s, again, silver bullet, cures everything, but these doctors use it as part and parcel of healing people. Dan, you know this. They get the worst of the worst. They’ve gone to the hospital. They went to the doctor. It didn’t help them. They’re still sick.
What are they going to do now? They walk into an alternative doctor and say help. I go hats off to you guys. You guys are doing it. We’re just here to support you, and you’ve got a really tough job. They do it, and they do it successfully in so many cases.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, Tom, man, it’s a great topic. You’ve really led the way so much with UBI, ozone, I mean, all of it, you and your family, your son. Just like my family, we have a legacy, and we’ve taken cellular detox, my kids. I’ve watched the same parallel in your family. We’re grateful, honestly. I encourage people. The links are here to check out what we’re really talking about here with UBI. Also, if you’re a practitioner, I’ll tell you, it’s a no-brainer putting this in, and you can get the training at SOPMed.com. We’ll put that link here as well for the practitioners. Any final words, Tom, that you feel everyone needs to hear?
Tom:
You’re in charge of your health. Don’t let it just sit there. I mean, I was years, Dan, four o’clock in the afternoon, I was so fatigued. I’d get my blood tests, nothing. Everything’s fine, conventional medicine. Finally went to an alternative doc, tied three things together, mainly hormonal, and all of a sudden, boom, I was back. People have to take charge of their health. They know that. They’re listening to you a little bit.
Yeah, these guys are out there trying to do a good job. I know it gets expensive, but it’s your health. Go for it. Try these different things out. Try Dan’s stuff and all that he’s supplied and worked with. I just feel privileged. The SOPMed conference was—and that’s SOPMed.org, by the way.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, SOPMed.org, yeah.
Tom:
It got me in touch with guys like you and so many brilliant doctors out there, so I feel like I’ve been the recipient of so many things. If I can give back a little bit with this book and promotion of new ideas—hey, we got new ideas. I’m not telling them. I’ll tell you in another podcast sometime, but we keep trying to find new things. I love having my kids work, and they spun off their own businesses that are tied to this. It’s the next generation.
Dr. Pompa:
It is.
Tom:
Every 10 years, 20 years. I just won’t be here. That’s okay. They’re the ones that’ll take down…
Dr. Pompa:
I think you’ll be here. All right, maybe I’ll be interviewing your son. I don’t know.
Tom:
Maybe.
Dr. Pompa:
You’ll be here. Actually, you brought it up, so I’m going to run with it, the average cost of a treatment of this because when you said it gets expensive, all the treatments, but this is pretty reasonably priced. What’s the average cost of the treatment? Now, it’s different for everybody.
Tom:
The average is about $250 per treatment. Now, a lot of times they have to go in the doctor and have an appointment and talk to them for an hour, half hour, whatever they do. Then after that the treatments are 250, around in there, and it depends if you’re in Berkeley or you’re in Idaho Falls.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, or New York City or LA.
Tom:
New York City.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s not like when you’re utilizing it for a specific condition. It’s not like you need a lot. In my mind, the money that I spent on different treatments that didn’t work when I was getting my life back, it’s inexpensive. Thanks. Thank you.
Tom:
Yeah, just a quick—yeah, a quick anecdotal, I had people travel all the way to LA from—they were out in New Jersey. She had EBV. The husband did, the chronic, couldn’t even get out of bed hardly, had to quit work and everything. She just saw a doctor that advertised. They went out and spent $20,000 out in LA that they could’ve spent $2,000 in New Jersey, but they were healed. It was a he, and he was healed after that. She’s quite a proclaimer. She’s actually in the book. I got her picture in there and her little story of how that worked.
People will spend money for what they need to. There’s sometimes a little bit less expensive way to do it, but now we have doctors all over the country. This is one to try, no question. Thank you.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, thanks for your contribution. Thanks for being here on Cellular Healing TV, Tom. Thank you.
Tom:
Yeah, same here. Thanks, Dan. We’ll see you soon. Okay, take care.
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