Today my guest is Bill Sickert, who is here to discuss the paradigm shift in microcirculation and human health. Bill brings with him over 35 Years of health and wellness experience and has a really fascinating device called AVACEN – and we will hear about its evolution, technology, how it works, and how it is being implemented clinically.
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Breadth and Depth are two words that best describe Bill Sickert’s credentials and his ability to transfer his passion for the advancement of human health. Bill is tri-credentialed in Business, Law and Nutrition and has held top executive positions in Health Care, Bio Technology, Water Nutraceuticals, Herbal Medicine and whole food nutrition. . Bill was the first to assist industry leader PhytoPharmica as they entered the natural pharmacy market in Southern California. This effort followed an award winning and nationally recognized career in Home Health, Home Infusion and Medically Fragile Child Care. Additional positions as CEO, President or Chief Science Advisor included Lignan Research, Penta Water Company, AquaPhotonics, Garden of Life, BEMER and NuLife Ventures/AVACEN.
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Dr. Pompa:
All right. What is this? You’re going to find out. It’s technology. Wait until you hear my story. Yeah, it kept me from going to the emergency room. You’ll have to hear that whole story. Oh, it’s my son Daniel’s favorite biohack because you feel something. Anyways, this is technology that you’re going to be able to access. You’re going to have to see the show why this works. I’ll give you a tip. It works the same way fasting works. That’s one of my experiments of doing this technology with fasting to increase autophagy, but it works by putting the body in a state of uh-oh, I need to survive. A stress similar to fasting and then, it opens up your capillary flow which sends healing through the roof. All right, you’re going to have to watch the rest of the show. This is an episode, again, I think you’re going to love because I’ve never heard of this until I went to A4F. Check it out.
Ashley:
Hello, everyone. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m Ashley Smith and today we welcome Bill Sickert whose here to discuss the paradigm shift in microcirculation in human health. Bill brings with him over 35 years of health and wellness experience and has a really fascinating device called AVACEN. We will hear all about its evolution and technology and how it works and is being implemented clinically. Let’s get started and welcome Bill Sickert and of course, Dr. Pompa to the show. Welcome both of you.
Dr. Pompa:
Welcome, Bill.
Bill:
Hello, everyone.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. Glad to have you on this topic. I’ve been looking forward to this topic. Let me start off by saying, microcirculation a few years ago became a real passion of mine for reason it helped me dramatically. Full disclosure, it was a different device than the one we’re going to actually show you today. It was a BEMER device from Germany, but it is a little cost prohibitive for most people viewing this. However, this new technology has made this more cost effective even for my doctors and there’s also – a cool thing is, something you’d be able to take advantage at home. Yeah, this is technology, Bill, that you know a lot more about than I do, but it was technology that really, it changed me.
I could tell story after story because I was dealing with some issues at that time with cavitation and the infection moved into my upper cervical and literally, I told my wife, if this gets any worse, you might have to take me to a hospital. You have to understand, for me to say that, is a really strong statement, but these bacteria moved into my upper cervical which damaged it greatly. It caused really septic arthritis which led to stem cells and all kinds of good stuff. The fact was is that, I was on the verge of going to the hospital. My wife said, “Why don’t you use the BEMER.” It is this technology that we’re discussing and I did it and immediately gave me relief.
Now I’ve repeated that several times in several people in my family. This technology became a passion of mine for many reasons of healing and recovery. I mean, all kinds of things, but again, it was – I didn’t do a show on it because it was a little cost prohibitive. Bill, okay. This technology, tell your story. How did you get involved? How did you end up here today?
Bill:
Yeah. Dr. Pompa, first of all, the fact that you originally got interested in microcirculation and your passion toward that, since the minute I met you, you’re a spot-on guy. You definitely have an insight into human health that I think goes beyond a lot of clinicians I’ve met and I’ve had many opportunities to meet them. One of the things with microcirculation is your attractions to BEMER is actually pulsed electromagnetic field technology, PEMF. Any time I had looked into its technology, and I am very familiar with BEMER. I was involved with the company as a general manager bringing it into the North American marketplace and lots of other companies that have a footprint in PEMF.
It’s so valid and the beauty of the validity and I think this lends to your credential and credibility, is the fact that it has 10,000 published papers, 2,000 double blind placebo-controlled studies. I mean, this is a safe credentialed technology, so it works. It works in a capacity that’s very good. The AVACEN has taken it to the next level from the point of view that you have pulsed electromagnetic field technology which excites the microcirculation and works very well. My nutrition background was always focused on micronutrients, luteins, [00:05:29] that get in the eyes, all those things. How do I get that? I was so excited with BEMER and PEMF because it now delivered.
In AVACEN technology, it goes beyond from the point of view that it’s now cleared with the FDA and it actually offers a thermal, literally a thinning technology of the blood and then, a recruitment of the blood through a very simple process. Just putting your hand in there. The hypothalamus triggers and it starts shooting these reactive mechanisms for healing which certainly in this current week is a very good thing.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. Okay, let me back up a little bit and say this, okay, why I’m watching this. Why would I want to increase microcirculation? What does that even mean? Okay, so let me do the best I can and then, you get to it. What that simply means is, we have our big arteries and veins that move water around our body. However, they have to get into their little tissues that matter. How do they get into your skin so your skin looks good and heals from a cut? How does it get in to your organ, liver or heart? All of these little tissues, we have to get nutrition in. We have to get white blood cells for healing. We have to get red blood cells for oxygen.
There’s something called capillaries that come off the big arteries that supply all of those tissues and that’s micro, very small circulation. One thing I’ve realized is that, very sick people, when I was sick, we lose that microcirculation quickly. As we age, forget about feeling sick, as we age, we lose this microcirculation. Therefore, I don’t care how good you eat. I don’t care how much you exercise. If the blood doesn’t get in to those tissues, ultimately, that’s what can lead to more pain, chronic [00:07:32], not healing. Why is this knee pain not going away? We’re not getting the healing in there despite the supplements we take. If we can improve microcirculation, we’ve got something. Am I on, on this or you want to add to that?
Bill:
Totally on. I always seek a non-clinical analogy, so people get it, but what you’re talking about is the huge insurance company building in Downtown Dallas which has a life every day. The people get there. The guards get there. The parking lot opens and thousands of people go into this building. Microcirculation is basically the traffic and the people getting into the building. There is no life in that building without them. When you lose that, which we all start to diminish even at nearly age of 40. It’s 70% of our world. Downtown Dallas, if there were no traffic and there were no exits and there were no parking, it just wouldn’t happen. The life of the building wouldn’t take place.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s estimated that about 70% of circulation is this microcirculation. It’s capillary circulation that we’re discussing and yet again, when it’s compromised which it’s so easily is, obviously healing and recovery, it doesn’t – and again, despite what you’re doing, taking, doesn’t help. Obviously, my interest came with like, okay, hey, I’m in my 50s. What am I going to do to improve that? I started researching different technologies. Then it was probably even a year or so later then someone introduced the BEMER. I’m always skeptical. It’s always another thing. Luckily, I spoke to somebody who had a really life-changing situation because of that technology.
Then I looked into it deeper. Then fortunately, I met the right person that I was able to get a device long story. It was life-changing. Now I had said in the beginning that it was a little – I never did a show on it. The machines were a little cost effective and well working. I’m not criticizing that. I was at A4F and I ran into somebody at a booth. This is a real story. I was discussing their product. It wasn’t at your booth. I don’t know how we got on the subject and he said, “You know, I’ll tell you.” I think I was saying I’m interviewing some of the new technologies. He said, “You need to go over and interview AVACEN. There’s a guy Bill there you could talk to. I know him, but you need to interview him because let me tell you something, that technology, I couldn’t bend my leg more than 90 degrees inflection, right?” He was showing me.
He said, “I did that, just that machine that they’re doing over there just a few times,” and this was prior to the show. He said, “I have full range of motion.” I was like, “Really?” Then I went over. I spoke to you and I was asking you questions about the technology. This technology does the same thing as BEMER, but according to you – maybe it was you who sent me some studies that even in fact is it more effective than the BEMER. At least, with certain conditions that – I think I read one on fibromyalgia which is a chronic pain condition. That it was in fact, more effective than the BEMBER. I think the exciting news is that, for the average person, they can come into this technology at a cheaper rate.
You could correct me on this. My way of explaining it, the BEMER uses this pulsed electromagnetic fields to open up capillary flow almost from mechanistic standpoint or at least a mechanical standpoint using the wavelengths. Now this technology interested me right away because I teach, Bill, on the magic of adaptation. The body does these incredible things when its forced to adapt. That’s why you get stronger with exercise. Oh, and if you keep doing the same routine, you stop forcing adaptation, you don’t get stronger and you could actually get weaker. Fasting forces an adaptation and all these amazing hormone optimization things takes place.
This technology works the same way like the BEMER in that you put your hand in there. It heats the blood. It sends signals. When the body senses this heat of the blood, the heating of the blood, it potentially goes uh-oh, I could be entering heat stroke. Therefore, it does this amazing adaptation. What it does to deal with this potential death situation and it’s really not, we’re just tricking it, is it opens up the capillary flow and it opens up all of that flow to cool down the blood and it ultimately thinks it’s saving your life, but what it’s doing is, it’s creating this amazing healing throughout the body by opening up capillary flow. That’s the way I love to think about it and describe it. You can add to that.
Bill:
I wish I could just videotape that whole thing. That is exactly the mechanism of the action. My experience has been two things, it’s like, I’m Dr. Pompa. Okay, I’m this whole human being. How can I just use one component of my body to make a change? What’s up with that? Then secondarily, is there a true mechanism of action? I’m not talking about, well, I’m feeling this over here and the aura is over here. Is there a true mechanism of action to actually explain in a scientific mind what’s going on in my body? I always say, it’s like going to Jiffy Lube or you get your oil changed in your car. There’s no question that the color of the oil has changed. The viscosity of the oil has changed. You’ve had a major change.
That AVACEN is an oil change that literally can take place in 20 minutes and that oil change can last for hours throughout the day. That’s number one. The mechanism and the thing – you have to understand, I was introduced to this years ago, three and a half years ago, hospital administration. Hey, Bill. Check out this thing. His wife was a friend of mine and she had it on her table. He goes, “Make sure Bill checks off that thing on the table.” I looked at him, I’m like, “This is a toy. What is this?” Now do I need to go skiing in Mammoth and warm my hands. I don’t know.
Dr. Pompa:
By the way, this is the device.
Bill:
There you go. That would be my first view of this. I’m like, what is up with this? Then I started looking. This is amazing from the point of view that you can literally [00:15:03] blood, arteriovenous anastomosis right here in the hand, in the wrist. It’s the most rich region. It’s not in your foot. It’s in both hands, one or the other and here is this device that actuates that. I was like, this is pretty cool. Then, as I put my hand on it, I’m like, woah, what’s going on here, suction or something. A reduction in atmospheric pressure that created this environment in my hand and my wrist and suddenly I started feeling warm. I’m like, okay, warm. No, not like a heater, but I immediately got my blood pressure cuff, O2 sat monitor and things that normally most people don’t have in their homes and check what is this thing doing and followed very positive metrics on my own human physiology and then, started looking into the body of science, so [00:16:19].
Dr. Pompa:
I started testing things. Took my blood pressure, et cetera. Each time post using this, there is a physiological change that I could measure which I love. Actually, at the event, its funny, I sent a gal over who had this chronic tendonitis. Unbeknownst to you, but I’ve tried everything and I was curious. I had her do it and I had her do it later. She was like, “Okay, I don’t know if it’s all in my head, but I swear, this is the best it felt.” I did a little test on her with something that would normally flare it up. She’s like, “No, I’m telling you. I couldn’t do that before.” There is an instant feeling as you said and I have to say we have a lot of biohacks in this house.
This one is my son’s favorite. If you ask him why, he said, because I feel different after every time I do it. I mean, there is absolutely something that you noticed right away and you can measure which is what I love. I have to say just – I’ll reshow that. You can see there’s a little egg thing that’s in there and you just put that on your palm. Then to your [00:17:24], this little cuff changes that environment. It creates what you said, that vacuum, if you will.
Bill:
Very simple to use.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. Then that heats up. Then your body senses that the fact that only one part of the blood is heating up. How many times in a minute does it heat? Because it’s circulating, obviously, via circulation.
Bill:
Yeah. Whenever I put my hand in something, I’m wondering, okay, who built this and what’s the technology behind it. I mean, come on. Tom Muehlbauer, the inventor of this – this device has been in development for 14 years. Not new and the technology behind it and his technology, what I call, underneath the deck which is underneath your hand is relatively amazing. There’s 14 functional patents on the use of this device and the way it works. The 14th patent was actually a gaming device that’s built into it for autism and kids.
One of the clinical studies that was recently published was on its ability to deal with autistic kids. You’re thinking like, I don’t know, last I checked, Dr. Pompa, when he was talking to Bill, I don’t think either one of them is autistic. Why would this have anything to do with that. Autism is directly related to nutrient delivery and getting these kids in a calming mechanism and it does that.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s just so amazing that that little bit of heat added, the body has this response, and we said that it signals the hypothalamus which is your heater control system, your thermostat. It says, uh-oh, we’re in trouble. Open up the capillaries. Cool down the blood and that’s so cool. That it basically tricks the body into that adaptation which not only saves its life, but more importantly, for our sake in this case, opens up these capillaries, brings nutrition into the cell, obviously, healing via white blood cells, stem cells and obviously, even the nutrition, you’re eating or taking. That’s the cool thing and I have said too is that, I had several times where I was absolutely, incredibly sore, probably self-induced.
Immediately, I mean, within 30 minutes after using it, I was like, oh my gosh, a difference was immediately noted. To your point of an autistic child – we’re talking about athletes using it for fast recovery because I was talking about muscular soreness. That’s probably why my son loves it. He’s a big workout guy. You mentioned the study of autism. Are there any other studies? I think I read one on fibromyalgia. I know I did. Can you talk a little bit about that? Are there other studies and are they doing more?
Bill:
Yeah. The fibromyalgia study was probably one of the best studies. Fibromyalgia, so everybody knows is such a broad category. It’s like, well, do you have this problem? Do you have that problem? Yeah. Oh, then you have fibromyalgia. It has this huge thing as opposed to I can’t see out of my right eye. That’s one thing. Fibromyalgia is truly an immune-compromised situation usually founded in a multiplicity of things. I mean, I’ve had friends that literally got off of diet soda and no more fibromyalgia. Obviously, there’s a sensitivity to artificial sweeteners. I mean, it’s that crazy broad from a nutrition point of view.
It’s important with AVACEN because if you’re a clinician, you’re a licensed chiropractor, you are licensed in the state. You actually have an FDA-cleared device for these claims in muscle relaxation, fibromyalgia, things like that. It’s that kind of credibility. If you’re a regular MD and you bill people, then you can actually bill under a thermal therapy billing code. It’s that credible. That’s very different from the whole PEMF marketplace. It doesn’t happen. It’s not bad, it’s just – I’m just saying.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s not bad, right. It’s just, there’s a lot of research that’s got into this technology. I’m going to do this. We’ll have a link for you doctors and practitioners that tuned in to the show. There’s obviously a clinical version versus a home version. For those of you at home that aren’t clinicians, we’ll have a link for you as well. We’ll make sure we provide that here. Are there any other studies? Any other conditions that you know it works unbelievable for? That you’ve seen even clinically whether there are studies or not?
Bill:
I think my biggest thing is taking these studies that have been presented to the FDA for the clearance. Then it’s like, okay, so what are the derivative items, Dr. Pompa, that we could – this makes sense. Would blood sugar regulation, would blood sugar metabolism, if I’m turbo-charging the body so to speak, would there be any other derivative things? We have a dozen questions to answer and we have UCSD Medical Center and San Diego State Department of Human Performance that are interested in looking at these things and are also processing our initial inquiries. Really good stuff.
It’s very exciting to me. I want everybody to understand, this is in the category of thermal therapy. Dr. Pompa puts his hand in here and 20 minutes later, we’re tricking, as he said, the body into thinking, I’ve got a possible microthermal issue and my hypothalamus is now, boom, what’s going on here? Hey, hey, hey, come on, and as a result of that, it is a cascade of things that are beneficial for human health and it’s not just a sauna in the [00:24:22].
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. I mean, the body – that’s how fast it works. The body goes, uh-oh, there’s a stress here. We’re not eating. What happens is all these amazing things in the case of survival and fasting is one of the oldest known therapies to humans, right? I could say clinically, one of the most amazing. The body to survive does amazing things that benefit our heath and that’s how this is working. No different than a fasting, no different from exercise, no different than – what’s popular now is cold therapy. People go in express cold. Guess what happens? The body goes, I’m going to die. It’s just like when you put your hand in. Uh-oh, part of the blood’s heated. I could die.
You come out of the cold. Hormone optimization. Your epinephrine goes way up to save its life. Oh, vasodilation. The inflammation, growth hormone rises. All of that to save its life. This is doing the same thing. I can tell you, right now, this is far more pleasant than cold. I hate cold. I love the optimization, but I could tell you, those cryo places, a lot of them don’t do well because what they’ve realized is, even though people know it's good for them, they just go, oh god, the cold. Forget it. I’ll put that off today. They don’t go do it.
This is something you can do in your home or in your clinic. It’s warm. It’s cozy. I sit there and I read, whatever. I watch TV. My day hasn’t stopped. I put it there and I do my morning. I’m drinking my morning coffee and I can put my hand. I do it twice a day. It’s that easy to do. 15 minutes twice a day, that’s all I do. I don’t know. Any other recommendation and also, off the science, where have you seen some different things happen with people who use this technology?
Bill:
Personal experiences have been in the dermatologic environment. In wound healing, rather dramatic there. It makes sense to me of course. Let’s say the collagen component going on there and no question. It was a personal experience with a friend of mine I’ve known for 25 years that had a major issue including a flap recreated on her nose. Beautiful German athlete, 50 years old. That’s just one of many and the bottom line is the thermal component, if you can just get that going every day – I don’t want to way you can stop working out, but it is like a mini-workout. It tells the body, wake up. What have you got going? Here we go.
For all of us that try desperately to eat correctly. Not necessarily 14 supplements, all that, but just EPA, DHA, essential fatty acids, all of those things, whatever you may be doing, this is a turbo charger [00:27:36] and I’ve definitely seen that. It’s tried and true and safe. The most important thing, if I’m a physician, I’m a chiropractor, I’m whoever, I have to have it proven safe for my patients. We have that.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. No, and Bill, I love it because people notice the difference, feel a difference. It’s easy. It’s comfortable. It’s not like putting people on ice baths. However, the effect is the same. The effect the same. It’s pretty cool. This technology, it’s made such a difference since I’ve been using it in our family and so appreciative of it that I wanted to do the show. I asked you to be on the show just because it made a difference. If it didn’t make a difference, you wouldn’t be here. That’s for sure.
Bill:
Honored to be here.
Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely. Do you have any other studies that they’re doing presently that just aren’t complete yet?
Bill:
Yeah. We actually have 11 studies going on right now. For everybody, when you have a study that’s a legitimate study, you submit it to an academic organization that has a huge medical presence and then, you have to have patient population. You basically put this whole thing together and you say, Bill and Dr. Pompa are putting da, da, da, da and then, the guys go, yeah, but what about, what about, what about for six weeks or even several months. Dr. Pompa and Bill, go back and forth with that institutional review board. We argue that this is a valid concern and question of human health. Once that’s passed, then it’s like, okay, now we can actually look at the blood sugar regulation.
How are you going to do that? It’s this entertaining, frustrating back and forth, but if you can get it done in a year and a half or two years, you’re pretty good to go. We have several of those in place right now. Just the metrics of hypertension, the metrics of blood sugar regulation, things with – an expansion of the fibromyalgia. What was it in there? Was it actually the pain? Was it relaxation that created a different neural environment? There’s a whole study that have been well established with thermal therapy on just a marker that actually helps with neural behavior and mood. It’s wide open, Dr. Pompa.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. I mean, ultimately, it’s relying on the innate intelligence of the body to drive the healing, to drive the mechanism of why we improvement, faster recovery, whatever it is and the hormone optimization takes place. The body tried to save its life. Uh-oh, I could be dying. Let me open up capillary flow. I just love it. I do. There’s one thing taking a pill, but there’s nothing more natural, safe, and effective than relying on the body healing itself. That’s why I love fasting, man. In the ‘90s, I was – it was just me and some Natural Hygiene Society people. It wasn’t cool to fast, but my point is, in the ‘90s, when I started studying it, but the reason I did was I was fascinated and still am with however we get the body to heal itself and that innate intelligence.
I believe the body has the ability to heal when you said to remove the interference. If we can increase microcirculation, blood flow. The body has the ability to heal, but it’s that thing that blocks it. I think this technology is so cool because it unblocks it. It just brings in the stem cells. It brings in the healing. It brings in the nutrition. I love it, man. Thanks for being on the show. Any last thoughts or words that you feel people need to know. Again folks, the links will be here. Practitioners we’ll provide a link for you and for the public as well.
Bill:
In closing, I’m a fasting fan. That goes back to biblical times. I have to tell you, that the experience with AVACEN and fasting, you don’t have to do it 14 days or 40 days. I mean, just in accelerating fasting with AVACEN in three days. You have to understand this, what Dr. Pompa’s talking about, why he’s such a fan is reduce burden. I’m no longer having five guys push against my car while I’m trying to drive it. Fasting releases that. I’m getting rid of that burden and then, I’m allowing the body to actually do what it wants to do. You can accelerate it with AVACEN within three days, a juice fast, boom.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. That’s the crazy thing. My next fast coming up I’m going to be doing the opposite. I’m just doing three days ironically. Normally, I do five, but I’m very fat adapted, so I can get into that major autophagy state day one whereas most people benefit for a little bit longer because it takes a lot to get there. I’m going to be doing this and I’m going to be doing one or two days of just dry fasting which accelerates autophagy as well. That means no water or food. There’s a reason why that increases autophagy, but so does this. I can’t wait. That’s going to be a fun experiment and you’ll see me on Facebook talking about it.
Bill:
We are kindred spirits, my friend.
Dr. Pompa:
Hey, Bill. Thank you for bringing this technology to me. It was you and also the gentleman. There was another gentleman who brought me to you.
Bill:
Jeffrey, yes.
Dr. Pompa:
That would be Jeffrey. Yeah, that’s his name.
Bill:
Absolutely, a good friend of mine.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, exactly. No, thank you for it. I’m appreciative that we did bring it to my viewers and listeners. Thanks, Bill.
Bill:
Honored to be here.
Ashley:
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