130: Nature’s Most Potent Superfood

Transcript of Episode 130: Nature's Most Potent Superfood

With Dr. Daniel Pompa, Meredith Dykstra and Special Guest, Catharine Arnston

Meredith:
Hello, everyone, and welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m your host, Meredith Dykstra, and this is episode number 130. Today we have a very special guest. We are going to be diving into the world of algae. We haven’t really talked a lot about this topic yet on Cellular Healing TV. We’ve talked a little bit about spirulina, chlorella, some of the benefits, but we’re really going to take a deep dive in today because we have an algae expert here for you. Dr. Pompa is really excited to welcome Catharine Arnston to the show.

Before we jump in and get started, I’m going to tell you a little bit more about Catharine. ENERGYbits, Incorporated was founded by Catharine Arnston. Catharine grew up in Canada before moving to Boston, where she’s lived for the last 25 years. She holds an MBA from Western’s Ivey School of Business and is a board certified health counselor and Reiki master.

Catharine started ENERGYbits seven years ago after her younger sister was diagnosed with breast cancer and was advised by her oncologist that an alkaline, plant-based diet would help her heal. In the process of helping her sister, Catharine learned about the health benefits of a plant-based diet and thought it was critical that others learn about it, too. She gave up her 25-year corporate career to return to school to study nutrition.

After graduating, she discovered algae, the greenest, most alkaline food in the world. Algae is endorsed by NASA and the United Nations as the most nutritionally dense food in the world, 64% protein and only one calorie. The only trouble with algae is that it’s virtually unknown outside of Asia. Catharine decided to devote her life to making algae easy to understand and easy to use. She founded ENERGYbits to make that happen and loves introducing algae to everyone she meets. Thanks so much for joining Cellular Healing TV, Catharine. We’re so excited to have you here.

Catharine:
Thank you. Thanks for inviting me.

Dr. Pompa:
You know, Catharine, we’re really happy that you joined us. I have to say at the top of the show, I love your product. I also have to say this: Everybody that’s watched my show for years and years and read my stuff – I get emails all the time saying, “Why are you so critical about algae, and spirulina, and in particular, chlorella?” People think I don’t like it. We’re going to clear the air a little bit today. I love algae. This is a really cool topic, and I think it’s an amazing ….

Catharine:
Are we having an algae intervention?

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, we are.

Meredith:
I like that. That’s what we can call it, algae intervention.

Dr. Pompa:
Right, Meredith? I think you’re going to – there’s two reasons why I’ve been critical. Everyone always takes things and says, “He just hates algae.” No, I don’t. I think it’s an amazing thing, and I want you to talk about the benefits of algae, and why we all love it, and take it. In the world of detoxification, I have some concerns, and your product passed one of my concerns because these algaes, they pull in a lot of different toxins.

Before we got on this show, I made you send me all the independent study that they did to test this product for toxic levels. In my past, I have tested these products, and they have been contaminated. I’ll say right now, this one was clean. I was very, very impressed. Even dug down into some other research on how it was grown.

Catharine:
Thank you.

Dr. Pompa:
Both of these products are clean. That’s one of the critique that I have about algae. We’ll get into the other one later on detox. Tell us a little bit about how you got into this,. There’s a little noise here, huh? I don’t know – do you have earphones?

Catharine:
Do I?

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. There was a little echo, right, Meredith? You heard that?

Catharine:
I can put some earphones on.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. See if that helps.

Catharine:
Is that better?

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. I don’t hear it anymore.

Catharine:
Okay. Perfect. As Meredith said, I was not ever planning – I never had planned to get into algae. It sort of found me; I didn’t find it. It was, as she mentioned, as a result of helping my sister, and then I just kept learning more and more about the power of green nutrition. I just kept going.

After graduating, I taught nutrition for a year, gave free workshops to people, trying to get them eat more greens. I called it my Greens Revolution. I found out people didn’t like greens, and didn’t want to clean them, didn’t want to cook them. I thought, “Well, I’m not moving the needle this way.” I thought, “Got to find something that gives them all the green nutrition they need that doesn’t taste green and doesn’t take any work.” I just started trying different things.

I had recalled that I had found the algae in this little tablets for my sister, so I, “Oh, heck. Why don’t I check these things out?” and I hit the mother load when I found out that they’re the most nutrient-dense food in the world and the most alkaline. I thought, “Okay. That’s it. I don’t have to look any further. I’m going to devote my time to algae.” The only trouble, as Meredith mentioned, was that nobody knew about it. The reason why they don’t know about it even thought it’s been sold here for 50 years is that the packaging has never explained what it does, or any of the benefits, or who it’s for.

I spent the first two years going through the science and basically rewriting everything into sound bites that people could understand. Then I had to try to find a customer group that would want to get these benefits. It took many, many years. Eventually, it turns out that the running community loved the product because it gave them energy and focus.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah.

Catharine:
I didn’t even know it gave you energy. I just liked algae because it had so much nutrition in it. It has 40 vitamins and minerals, and 64% protein, and omega-3, all the iron that you – the RDA of iron is exceptional.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah.

Catharine:
Anyways, that’s how I got started is helping my sister, and then we migrated into becoming a sports nutrition company because the athletes realized that it gave them energy and focus and didn’t upset their stomachs like the other products do that they were taking that contained caffeine, chemicals, or sugar.

In general, what happens is the product – spirulina gives you energy, which is why we call ours ENERGYbits. Chlorella is an immune builder, and it helps you recover from anything including athletics, so we called ours RECOVERYbits. We’re just trying to make the product as simple and understandable as possible. That’s probably the two easiest ways to explain what the product does.

Dr. Pompa:
I actually love the way you market it because it definitely – it does all that. I think that the nutrition value in this superfood is just absolutely amazing. It really is. When you can find a clean source like your product, I think it just brings so many benefits to so many people. Okay. Why is algae so nutritious? In other words, why? There’s a lot of different foods. Why algae? What does it hold all these nutrients?

Catharine:
It comes straight from nature. We don’t do anything to it. We grow it in fresh water in water tanks, so it’s not out just growing wild in the ocean somewhere.

Dr. Pompa:
Which, by the way, is why it’s clean, right? It’s not pulling the –

Catharine:
Exactly. Exactly. I can’t take credit for what’s in algae. That’s Mother Nature at her best. What it does offer is the highest concentration of iron. Iron is what carries oxygen in your blood. If you don’t have sufficient iron, you will be fatigued. This is why, in fact, a lot of young women are fatigued. A lot of athletes have what’s called the runner’s – in particular, they have what’s called the foot strike, where for whatever reason, when they run on cement, it dissipates the iron in their blood, so a lot of them are actually anemic. The iron prevents anemia.

It’s loaded with omega-3 and another essential fatty acid called GLA. Now, your brain is primarily fat, and so you need healthy fats to be able to think properly and so the synapses connect properly. Algae has all of that in it naturally. In fact, they were – a lot of research is on algae for biofuel purposes because they’re trying to extract the oil to use instead of traditional fossil fuels. It just goes to show you how much fat is in the algae.

It also has all the B vitamins. Now, right now, I’m talking spirulina. B vitamins are what give you energy. They convert glucose into energy. Spirulina has all of the – every single B vitamin that you need, particularly the vitamin A, which is an antioxidant. That, of course, helps fight the free radicals, so it helps with anti-aging. It’s a nitrogen-based algae. What nitric oxide does is it relaxes your smooth muscles, and your blood vessels are a smooth muscle. Effectively, what happens is it opens up your blood vessels so that all of the other blood, the oxygen, and the nutrients can get to where they need to go so that, again, you don’t have as much fatigue.

It helps in so many ways. The high concentration of protein is the highest in the world. The Germans won a Nobel Prize for it. Of course, protein is a great source for energy because it takes – it’s slow to digest. It enters your blood stream at a very even pace, that and the fat, so you’d have no surges or crashes like you would if you had carbs or sugar. It stabilizes your blood sugar, which also helps stabilize your parasympathetic system.

Dr. Pompa:
I want to point out for athletes, a lot of them take whey protein. Whey protein can actually raise up insulin because it’s that quickly absorbed through gluconeogenesis. We see these, actually, glucose and insulin spikes, whereas this product – you’re right. It’s such an even protein that goes in over time. We know this. If you take in a lot of protein at once, your body can only do so much with it at one time; however, when you  for a recovery standpoint, muscle building –

Catharine:
Right. Exactly.

Dr. Pompa:
Again, if you’re trying to lose weight, you’re a female or a man, it’s really important not to take in too much protein at once. It’s really important to replace that protein for healing and repair. That slow protein release is really important. I think it’s one of the reasons why athletes love the product.

Catharine:
Right. The other really big reason why they love it is because it doesn’t upset their stomach like gels and bars do. When you’re an athlete, all of the enzymes that normally would be in your stomach to digest things are out busy doing other things like delivering oxygen to your limbs. The cool thing about spirulina is that it has no cellulose wall on the exterior.

There is nothing for your body to have to break down in order for all those goodies, all that protein, all that GLA, all those B vitamins, nothing for the body to break down in order for it to be absorbed into your blood stream. It’s virtually instantly absorbed. It never hits your GI track undigested so it never causes any kind of digestive distress. You get the steady energy without any kind of downside that you would get from all those other carb-based products.

By the way, a lot of elite athletes are realizing that the carb-based – carb loading is not the most efficient way to achieve top performance, and there’s this new emphasis on ketogenic training, which is fat- and protein-based. To my knowledge, spirulina and our products are the only ketogenic sports nutrition product out there. Everything else is pretty much carb-based.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. You’re preaching to the choir. We are fat-adapted humans here.

Catharine:
Yeah. Yep. Nice. I’m almost fat-adapted.

Dr. Pompa:
We preach and teach ketosis –

Catharine:
Yeah. Preach and teach.

Dr. Pompa:
I’m a fat adapter myself. Yesterday, I went on a two-hour ride.

Catharine:
Exactly.

Dr. Pompa:
Of course, I don’t have to eat. I can ride. I could have went on a four-hour ride. It’s like I have the energy because I burn my fat.

Catharine:
It’s amazing, isn’t it?

Dr. Pompa:
It really is.

Catharine:
You don’t get hungry.

Dr. Pompa:
No. I don’t get hungry. It’s remarkable. People that I ride with do all the carb loading and wonder, “How the heck do you keep going? How do you have all this energy?” It’s the same in my life. I can go all day without eating, and go, “Oh, I have to eat.” We adapt ourselves to fat.

Catharine:
Yeah, right.

Dr. Pompa:
This product’s perfect for that. I mean, it really is. It plays in to the cell energy.

Catharine:
Yeah. It’s in this little, tiny tablet form. When people buy a bag online, we give them an empty tin so they can fill it up. A tin holds about 75 tablets. We recommend 30 of these little tablets as a single serving. You could take far more.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah.

Catharine:
Our NHL players take three times that. You can always tuck it in a knapsack, a pocket, and we sell single servings now at retailers. The bottom line is you never have to break down and eat some of that crappy carb stuff, and upset your stomach, and upset everything. You’ll always have a healthy snack. This is a snack. It great for moms to put in their kids’ lunches, and it has all the nutrients that anyone would be – not just athletes, but anyone.

On that note, I also am quite proud of the fact that I did a deep dive in the amino acid profile of spirulina and was stunned to discover that both the overall nutrient profile of spirulina and the amino acid profile, in particular, is virtually identical to mother’s milk. Everyone in the world knows that mother’s milk is the perfect food. Guess what? Spirulina is almost identical. That explains why it’s so good for people. I was always wondering, “I need to know!” I’ll send you the articles that I did that show this. It just goes through each amino acid, the percentage. It’s not just the aminos, but it’s the percentage of the aminos, and it’s almost – per amino acid, it’s almost identical. That’s pretty amazing.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. The question I had asked earlier is, “Really, why is this spirulina such the perfect food?” How did it become that? When you think about life, it’s like it’s so important that we start here in waters, and we think about how that feeds fish, and how fish feed – and we think about that whole process that goes up the ladder, if you will, of the hierarchy of the food chain. It doesn’t surprise me that it starts with algae, just knowing how our ecosystem works. Do you have any other thoughts there? Why is this food so amazing, rich in everything.

Catharine:
Mother’s milk and algae, spirulina algae, are the only two foods that you could live on forever. It’s such a complex mix of not just vitamins, but also the minerals. Spirulina was the first plant life on earth almost three billion years ago, and they have fossils to prove that. It releases oxygen when it’s growing. After millions and billions of years, there was enough oxygen on earth that other life form could occur. It then led to chlorella, which is the next on the food chain. Yes. It is at the very, very bottom of the food chain.

Even if you are eating organic vegetables, and even if you’re doing your best to eat well, there are still contaminates out in the air and in the world that you encounter.

Dr. Pompa:
Exactly.

Catharine:
Even all that organic stuff, it’s not 100%. I think algae is pretty much the last safe place that you can go to get dense nutrition. I’m so proud to be introducing it to people.

Dr. Pompa:
I agree. Listen, we test products all the time. When you test food, you wouldn’t believe it. Even organic food, what’s in it from the environment? Whether it’s the water or the air, it’s unavoidable. This, because of how they grow it, it’s just – it’s amazing. The nutrition value that’s still there, that was one of my other concerns. Just because it’s not grown the exact same way nature would, would it hold the same nutritious value? How do they do that? How do they get it to hold onto the nutrition value as the stuff that’s grown in nature, which arguably, would be more toxic, but arguably, may have been more nutritious because it’s in nature? How do they do that?

Catharine:
There’s 15,000 strains of algae, and there’s only two or three that are not poisonous. Spirulina and chlorella are the two that are not poisonous.

Dr. Pompa:
Right.

Catharine:
Don’t go in your swimming pool or a local swamp and scoop up some algae because you will get sick from that. Also, when algae is growing, it absorbs everything that’s in the water around it. That’s why it has to be grown in the most clean environments so there is no contaminates absorbed into it.

You were asking about the nutritional profile and why it is so great for you. There is nothing else that has the density of nutrition. We figure a bag of our algae equals about 40 grocery carts of the nutrition of fruits and vegetables, 40. It’s what I call efficient nutrition.

Dr. Pompa:
Wow. It’s economical, too.

Catharine:
Yes – on a nutritional basis. The other thing I wanted to share is that a lot of people are taking supplements. It’s, I think, a $30 billion industry, which is ridiculous because almost all those companies put artificial ingredients in their supplements. There are a few, thank God, that do use plant-based and food-based nutrients, but there’s very few of them. There are so many vitamins and minerals in algae that when you take the algae every day, you do not need any other supplements. Again, it saves you money because you’re not having to buy all those fish oil, or a multi, or calcium, or magnesium. It’s all in the algae.

More importantly, because algae is a food, and because it comes from nature, your body can recognize everything that’s in it, and you’ll absorb 99.9% of it. It’s that bio-available. Most people don’t realize that things like vitamin C, there’s 282 pieces to vitamin C, of which ascorbic acid is one of them. When you just have ascorbic acid in your vitamin, your body’s going, “Hey, where are the co-factors and the factors? I don’t know what to do with this stuff. It’s all by itself.”

The way I describe it to my young interns, it’s like, “Hey, you wouldn’t go to work with just your shoes on, right? You have a top, and you have a bottom. You have a whole outfit.” When you isolate things from vitamins, and just throw in ascorbic acid, and you don’t throw in the rest of it, it’s like going to work with just your shoes on. The rest of it – it doesn’t work.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah.

Catharine:
When you get your nutrients from food, it all works.

Dr. Pompa:
I agree. That is the best way unless we’re pushing something in a specific direction, but this is perfect food. I’m critical always, and people watching this show know this of the green foods. We’ve tested the green foods, and the reds, and all the stuff, and really, I just – I find it’s really not what it’s cracked up to be, whereas I think – I know this is the opposite. I think this is the real thing. When we look at those powdered, dehydrated vegetable things that people drink and spend a lot of money on, I don’t believe they hold up. I don’t believe they even compare to what this product is.

Catharine:
I can’t even tell you the thousands and thousands of testimonials we have from people where they tell us their children don’t have ADHD anymore, or their blood pressure was normalized after three or four days. We have seven-year-olds who are running races and beating 20-year-olds. We’ve got 80-year-olds who were on oxygen and could barely get up, and they’re now dancing on tables. It never ends. This is what gets me up every morning.

I know that every time someone’s buying a bag of my algae, we are helping somebody be more of who they were, to get back to where they were. We have 50 Olympic and professional athletes who endorse us, and we don’t pay them a penny because we’re so tiny, we don’t have any money. We had four of our athletes win medals at the Olympics. We don’t ask them to say great things about us, but they do. We keep winning awards wherever we go. In fact, I’m on my way to Salt Lake City next week to win another – to accept another award.

It’s very rewarding to know that you’ve got something that is helping people in a way that is – nobody else seems to be able to educate them about. We try to keep it really simple and playful. We’re not lecturing people; we’re just sharing with them simple information about literally the simplest food in the world that offers the most nutrition in the world.

Dr. Pompa:
I want my viewers and listeners to understand, look, if it’s good for the athletes, it’s unbelievable for you. Just don’t think it’s just a product for athletes. I think when we look at athletes, we realize they need superfood. It’s all about recovery. It’s all about feeding the cells the perfect food. This is definitely one of those foods, for sure. We’re leaving the topic of spirulina, and that’s spirulina, right, the most basic, bottom of the food chain, perfect food.

This one’s clean. That’s why I love it – loaded with nutrition. Let’s kind of switch gears now. The chlorella, which is the RECOVERYbits, right? The spirulina, we called the ENERGYbits; you call the chlorella the RECOVERYbits. What’s the difference in these two algaes, and what are some of the benefits that you would receive from chlorella versus RECOVERY – or versus the..

Catharine:
The ENERGYbits – so spirulina, that’s a blue-green algae. That’s the one that was the first plant ever on earth. No cellular wall, so it’s absorbed into your body instantly and gives you all the energy and focus. That’s why students love it. Moms love it for the focus that they get. We even have doctors and surgeons who love it.

Chlorella came later, probably billions of years after spirulina, and it is truly a plant. It does have a cellulose wall on the outside of it. While it also has 40 vitamins and minerals, they’re in different proportions, and they do a different thing in your body. Chlorella will not give you energy, and it will not satisfy your hunger, or give you focus. What it does is it builds your immune system.

The spirulina has the highest concentration of protein in the world, but chlorella has the highest concentration of chlorophyll. Now, chlorophyll is well known to be a blood builder. I’ll tell you an interesting factoid. I don’t know if you know this. The chemical composition of chlorophyll is absolutely identical to the chemical composition of hemoglobin, with the exception of one atom. In your hemoglobin, that atom is iron, and in the plant, it is magnesium. I tell people, “If it wasn’t for that one atom, we’d probably have green blood.”

The importance of this is that when you take in foods that are high in chlorophyll, you are nurturing your blood. Your blood is your life – is critical to your life. That’s where all the nutrients flow. It’s where the oxygen is. Chlorella – ours is called RECOVERYbits – helps build your immune system, helps build your blood. It also has the highest concentration of RNA and DNA in the world. Up until now, they thought sardines had the highest, but it’s actually chlorella. RNA and DNA is important because your cells are constantly dying off either through being attacked by antioxidants or just from aging, and if you don’t have healthy RNA and DNA, then when they grow back, they’re damaged, and that leads to illness.

If you’re constantly getting fresh RNA and DNA that help your cells grow back healthier, then it actually helps you stay healthy. In Asia, it’s known as the Fountain of Youth because it helps reduce aging properties, whether it’s from a health basis or even your skin. You skin doesn’t get wrinkled as much. It’s quite amazing stuff.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah.

Catharine:
The chlorella builds your immune system. It pulls out toxins including lactic acid, which is why the athletes love it. After exercise, the lactic acid buildup causes their muscles to be sore the next day. This will pull out the lactic acid so they’re not, but it also pulls out other toxins. There’s toxins throughout the day. If you eat tuna, there’s mercury in the tuna. I tell people – I’m not a drinker, but if you drink alcohol, the chlorella detects it as a toxin and will pull it out of your blood stream in an hour and a half. You never have a hangover, and you’re stone sober in an hour and a half. It doesn’t matter whether it’s wine, beer, or..

Dr. Pompa:
It is a detoxer, and this is where I take and – my stand. There’s been some confusion. I don’t like when it’s marketed as the metal thing, that it’s this true chelator or binder. It’s not. However, however, it really does what you’re saying. It does a great job of cleaning up. It think it goes along great.

When we’re talking people and we’re putting them on true programs to remove heavy metals or biotoxins, I think it works amazing to help the body clean up. Back in the day when we studied it, we looked at live algae compared to the dried algaes, and there was a difference in how it could bind, actually, a heavy metal really tight in a different bind. When we call something a true binder, it’s a certain bind that we’re looking for; however, it’s good that chlorella isn’t that true binder because it wouldn’t offer the nutrition status and wouldn’t work the way it should.

True binders, that’s all they do. They hold on, and they move out of the body very quickly. Chlorella is more than that. You pointed that out. There’s so many benefits to your immune system and your blood, plus it does some binding. I really am impressed with the product. Again, this chlorella is grown the exact same way. I looked at the study because I was probably most critical of these chlorellas binding up environmental toxins and being unsafe, let alone not – shouldn’t be used as a true binder. This one, I was amazing.

First thing I looked at was lead, arsenic, mercury, and I couldn’t believe it. Honestly, it was less than what’s in most fruits and vegetables. That’s the truth.

Catharine:
Yaaayyy! I decided when I started this company I was going to do everything that was the highest quality, even if it took me years longer. I’m very grateful for your support. I just want people to feel safe with us. That’s pretty much it.

I will say, however, that there is a small number of people that sometimes, when they take the chlorella, they’ll have a detox – like a healing crisis. It does pull out toxins, and so the toxins will circulate through the body on their way out. It doesn’t happen to everybody, but sometimes they’re – some people do get a little nausea, but it doesn’t happen all the time, and it doesn’t last long. I tell people, “It’s much better to get those toxins out where they’re damaging your cells and you don’t even know about it until it’s too late. Just put up with a little discomfort.” It doesn’t happen, like I say, all the time.

I like the spirulina because this has a hard cellular wall. Spirulina gets into your blood stream almost instantly. The chlorella does take an hour and a half to fully be absorbed because it has that really hard cellular wall. It’s a slower absorption.

Dr. Pompa:
You had said about binding certain toxins. I wonder if there’s been any studies done on glyphosate. The reason I ask is because glyphosate’s not that difficult to bind, but it’s on every bit of food. Even organic food is now containing glyphosate just because it’s ubiquitous in our society. I think they said 60% to 70% of all rainfall, they’re finding glyphosate. It’s even in our wine.

Catharine:
Oh, wow.

Dr. Pompa:
I wonder if by taking it when you ingest food, taking it with a meal, if it’s binding any of the glyphosate. Did you find any studies on that?

Catharine:
I have not looked into that. Once we’re a little bit bigger, I’ll want to be testing just about everything. I’m very science driven myself, so I’d like to have data to show people. That’s a really good suggestion. We probably can’t do it right now, but – there’s 75,000 chemicals that have been released into our environment since World War II. Our immune systems have not been – were not built to sustain that kind of toxic load.

That’s why there’s so much illness right now. There’s drugs out there, and they do tests, but they don’t do tests on what may happen when those drugs interact with other drugs or other toxins in the air or whatever. That’s why there’s so much illness because of the load of toxins. If the chlorella can pull some of that out on a gradual basis, which it does, it will help people be healthier for much longer. It’s a lot easier than doing a juice fast or something. You just take some of these every day, and you’re done. That’s it. You don’t have to give up anything else.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah.

Meredith:
Do you just take them on an empty stomach for best absorption? When is a good time to take them?

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah – and how much? Give us some dosing, when, how, and even to work out, etc.

Catharine:
Okay. Sure. Yep. To feel any benefits on a regular basis from this, the dosage amount of the little tablets – for each of the brands, so thirty spirulina tablets, thirty ENERGYbits, and thirty RECOVERYbits. That’s just your base level. That’s sort of your entry point. When you’re taking those every day, that’s when you can – you don’t need any other vitamins. You don’t need fish oil. There’s no burping up of any flavor. You taste nothing.

Now, we tell people to swallow them because most people don’t like the flavor. They’re very green, and spirulina’s very chewy because of the protein in it and omega-3, but they’re totally chewable. We call them bits because they’re bits of food. People go, “Whoa! Why do I have to take so many?” It’s like, “Well, do you have a single nut when you’re hungry? No. You have a handful.” Just like that, you would take a handful of these in addition to 30 a day just to maintain your health. If you were hungry and you wanted a snack, boom! Take 30 of these. Throw them down.

If you wanted to experiment with chewing them – I love to chew them with nuts or slices of fruit. You can’t ever overdose on these. I wouldn’t get over 300 a day. I tell people, “You can’t overdose on kale or broccoli. This is just a type of vegetable.” I’m using a little liberty here calling it a vegetable, but I want people to understand it’s just like a plant. If you take 30 of ENERGYbits before a workout or in the morning to start your day, you’ll have energy for hours. It’s just steady energy. There’s no lightning bolts from the sky.

The best way to describe it is you just feel fresh. That’s it. You won’t even possibly notice it, but you’ll just go, “Hey! I’m not tired,” or “Huh! I worked out and ran twice as long as I thought, and I wasn’t even noticing it,” or if you’re a weightlifter, “I lifted twice as much,” and you won’t even notice it. It’s a very quiet energy. ENERGYbits, I recommend people taking in the morning or the afternoon because you’ll get that energy, or take them before a workout or a run. Take them any time you’re doing anything where you need energy.

I generally suggest to people, take RECOVERYbits at night for two reasons. One is your body has two cycles. One is a building cycle, and one is a cleansing, detox cycle. The cleansing, detox cycle is at night.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah.

Catharine:
Since your body’s detoxing anyways, why not give it a little extra boost and take your RECOVERYbits at night? You don’t have to, but if you do, you’re giving it a little extra help. Also, if you do like to drink a couple glasses of wine every once in a while, if you’re already in the habit of taking your RECOVERYbits at night, then you’ll take them, and you won’t have a hangover the next morning. You can take either one of them any time of day.

You can take them on empty stomachs. You can take them with food. There are no requirements, really, although I will say that – two things. You need to take a lot of – at least a full glass of water with them, whether you swallow them or whether you chew them. The protein is very dense, and your body needs water to help process protein. Some people, if they don’t take it enough – drink a full glass of water, they might have a little queasiness in their stomachs. The water helps prevent that.

The other thing is it’s very strange about algae, but – and I call it intelligent food because you have to be intelligent to take it, and it knows what to do in your body. It behaves better in your body when there are other healthy foods either before it or after it. It’s kind of crazy, but – so if you have a healthier diet, you’re going to get – you’ll get better results from it, quite honestly. The best way I can describe this is I recently read an article.

The medical community is using algae now to deliver chemotherapy. Usually, when you take chemotherapy, you get chemotherapy, and it kills everything in your system, your hair, it kills everything including the cancer, hopefully. What they found was if they inject algae with the chemotherapy and then give it to the patient, the algae can find the cancer and attaches to the cancer to that the chemotherapy is delivered only to the cancer cells. No other part of your body receives the chemotherapy. Crazy, isn’t it? There’s something about this algae that – I can hardly wait to learn more about it.

It’s very, very intelligent, but generally, yes. You can take it any time of day. We urge people, if you want the energy, to take the ENERGYbits in the morning. It’s better to take the RECOVERYbits after a workout because it will pull out the lactic.

Dr. Pompa:
I’ll tell you, you need the full glass of water for more reasons than you think. If you chew them, you need it to clear your teeth.

Catharine:
Right. I forgot to mention that.

Dr. Pompa:
Good Lord, but I love chewing them. I do. I like chewing them. I like that, especially the ENERGY bites with the spirulina. I love chewing the – before I work out. Yeah. You better darn use that water.

Catharine:
Check the mirror first.

Dr. Pompa:
Check the mirror, folks. You keep mentioning the bags. Meredith, I don’t think we’ve got our shipment in yet that you could hold it up, but how many come in a bag, and what’s the advice?

Catharine:
I’ll just grab one.

Dr. Pompa:
A lot of our people are going to want to buy them. While you’re doing that, Meredith –

Catharine:
We –

Dr. Pompa:
Go ahead. Go ahead. You got it? Okay.

Catharine:
I got it right here. This bag looks – we’re actually in the process of redesigning the packaging. There’s 1,000 tablets in a bag. If you took 30 a day, a bag will last a month. A bag retails for $115, but I think you have a discount code you’re offering your viewers that gives them 20% off, so it brings it down to $92. A single serving works out to about $2.50 or $2.60 with the 30 tablets. This is what you can buy online from our website with your discount code.

Then we also sell single servings at retail, and maybe this is what might be helpful for you to sell, that are $4.00. I should have thought to bring them. They’re out of reach right now. There’s 30 tablets in a single serving. They’re really handy to tuck in a lunchbox, or your briefcase, or throw in your car so that you always have a single – a little package to take with you. As I say, they’re $4.00. Every time you buy a bag, we include a little, empty tin with the bag – there’s the tin – so that you can –

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah.

Catharine:
You can put 75 of these into here so that you can fill this up every day and take it to work so you always have snacks if you need them. There’s two and a half servings will fit into that. I have about 75 a day of these, of the ENERGYbits and RECOVERYbits. Obviously, I don’t have to pay for them, and I’m a big, super user. I couldn’t live without these things. I work 16-hour days building the company, and I only have 20-year-olds working for me. They can’t keep up with me. I’m never sick. I never miss a day of work. I credit the algae. This will give me energy, and the RECOVERYbits keep me…

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. I want to turn it over to you, Meredith, with a couple final questions, but I want to make these last couple statements here just because I know people are going to ask. I’m always trying to clear up the questions and the emails. “Can I take this? Is it going to mess up my intermittent fast,” which a lot of our folks intermittent fast? The answer’s no. It won’t. You won’t get the glucose rise. If anything, it would lower glucose. Therefore, you can take this throughout the day even if you’re intermittent fasting. I know our friend, Ben Greenfield, does. I know that I have, and so that’s good news. A lot of you intermittent fasting that want to even out your energy, it’s actually – and blood sugar, it’s actually going to help.

The other question we’re going to get, Meredith, is, “How does the chlorella differ from CytoDetox or Bind?” Completely different. Chlorella is an actual food. CytoDetox is a true binder. It binds; it grabs on; doesn’t let go; goes out of the body; goes into the cell. That’s what it’s used for. Bind is a true binder, but it stays in the gut; doesn’t leave the gut. It binds there so you don’t reabsorb toxins. Chlorella is a true food. Does it clean up the waste, the toxins, as we described? Yes, but it’s not a true binder like the other two I mentioned. That’s how it differs.

Yes, absolutely, this is a perfect food. These ENERGY bites are the perfect food for those intermittent fasting. Those on ketosis, cellular healing diet, perfect. There you go, Meredith. I’m going to turn it back over to you because I know you always have great questions.

Meredith:
I always have questions. Thank you, Dr. Pompa, for clearing that up because that’ll save me a little bit, too.

Dr. Pompa:
I believe you. I think about that. I know what our viewers are thinking.

Meredith:
Thank you. Thank you for that. Yes.

Catharine:
It’s also safe for children, and it’s also safe for pets. Pets love it, and it’s an expensive treat for your pet.

Dr. Pompa:
Oh, yeah. Perfect.

Catharine:
Their coats will shine. Their eyes will be clear. Their mouth will not be smelly. It’s fantastic.

Meredith:
Awesome. Yeah. It’s an amazing product. You were so kind to send me samples, as well. I think they’re delicious to eat. I was a big fan of eating them. Something I was thinking people might be wondering, I know you said they’re safe and wonderful for everyone, especially athletes, but if you had any specific illnesses where you’ve noticed either the spirulina or the algae having a really positive impact.

Dr. Pompa:
There’s an absolute -inaudible-

Catharine:
We have had customers tell us –

Dr. Pompa:
There’s a -inaudible-

Catharine:
We’ve had a few – algae eater?

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah.

Catharine:
As I mentioned, we’ve had people who had cancer let us know that it’s gone into complete remission when they were taking the two of them. It’s fantastic to get your blood pressure back to normal. If you have ADHD issues – we have got people getting off their depression medication, their allergy medication. It’s amazing because ultimately, if you get your body the nutrients that it needs, it can heal itself. Unfortunately, most of us are nutrient-deprived, and there is nothing that carries as much nutrition as the algae.

I don’t want anybody to do anything crazy. I have a person who wrote us about getting off their Zoloft. They just forgot to take it on their trip, and all they had was ENERGYbits, so that’s all they took. They found out they didn’t need it, so they continued the experiment when they got back. Three weeks later, they just threw it away, and that was that.

Meredith:
Wow.

Catharine:
We were really happy to hear that.

Dr. Pompa:
We’re not suggesting anyone come off any medication. We’re not suggesting this heals anything. When you give the body what it needs, the body will do amazing things. That’s it. The body’s the only thing that does the healing. We don’t.

Catharine:
Yes.

Dr. Pompa:
No product does the healing. When the cells get perfect food, magic happens. We’ll leave it at that.

Catharine:
Right.

Dr. Pompa:
All right, Meredith.

Catharine:
I want to be very – yeah. We’re not allowed to make any medical claims. We are not physicians, so we can’t give that kind of health advice. I’m just telling you some of the stories that we’ve told to us.

Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely.

Meredith:
Wonderful. Catharine, thank you so much for joining Cellular Healing TV.

Catharine:
Thank you.

Meredith:
Those of you who are listening and watching are probably wondering how to get this product. What you do is you’re going to go to ENERGYbits.com, Catharine’s website. If you enter in our promo code, that’s CHTV, short for Cellular Healing TV – enter in CHTV at checkout, and you’ll get 20% off your purchase. Thank you, Catharine, so much for kindly extending that offer to our listeners.

Dr. Pompa:
All right.

Catharine:
Yes. Just so they understand the spelling of the website is E-N-E-R-G-Y bits, B for boy, I, T for Tom, S for Sam. It’s easy. Thank you so much. This has been great.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. We’ll have a lot of people ingesting the perfect food. That’s for sure. Thank you, Catharine. Thanks again.

Catharine:
Thank you.

Meredith:
Thank you, Dr. Pompa. Thank you so much, Catharine for joining the show. It’s been such a pleasure. I know I learned a lot, so hopefully, all of you out there learned a lot, too. Remember, go to ENERGYbits, CHTV for the promo code if you want to try them yourself. Thanks for watching. Have a great weekend. We’ll catch you next week.