132: Why Chiropractic Rocks

Transcript of Episode 132: Why Chiropractic Rocks

With Dr. Daniel Pompa, Meredith Dykstra and Special Guest, Dr. Billy DeMoss

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Dr. Pompa:
We are live with Dr. DeMoss. You will notice that Meredith—you may be able to see her in the little corner. We just can’t hear Meredith today. She’s waving her hands down there. You guys aren’t going to get the good questions, because Meredith’s not here to ask them. Meredith, we’ve just got to get you a better computer I think. I don’t know what’s going on with your computer. You’re not going to hear from Meredith today. You’re just going to see her down there raising your thumbs up. Hey Meredith, just for fun, if you have a question, Vox me, and I’ll play it. Wouldn’t that be fun? Let’s use multiple technology, because I can’t not hear from Meredith.

I’m here with one of my good friends. I just love this man. Meredith always reads the bio, and she said, “I’ll send his bio over.” I said, “I don’t even need a bio for Dr. Billy.” I have a lot of respect for this man. His philosophy in chiropractic has moved the chiropractic profession to another level. I believe that. He is the creator of something called California Jam. I’ll let him tell you more about that, but it is my favorite seminar. You all know that I go to many, many different seminars to educate myself and to teach. I’ll tell you, this is the greatest seminar going right now, and of course, it is in California. I used to think, Billy, it was cow jam. I said, “Why’d they name it after a cow?” Remember I said that in a video? That’s a true story. I did. I thought, cow jam? I said, “I don’t get it.” You never know what happens in California. We have Burning Man.

Dr. DeMoss:
I’ve had some of my memes call it that before.

Dr. Pompa:
I did a promo for him, and I said, “I used to think it was cow jam.” Everyone thought that was hilarious, but it’s California Jam, CalJam.  Billy, you’ve been practicing 31 years. You would never know the guy’s that old. It’s the bald head.

Dr. DeMoss:
Yeah. It’s the bald head. Obviously, I feel it more now practicing.

Dr. Pompa:
Listen, Billy, you have been in this profession a long time. You have a lot to say. You have a lot to teach. We have a lot of subjects today that I want to cover, even controversial ones. I love it. You love it. I think we can talk a little bit about—we have a lot of doctors, practitioners that watch this show as well as just folks digging for answers for their own health. I want to speak to all of it for them, Billy. I want to start with this, where I usually love to start. How did you get into this? How did you get into chiropractic 31 years ago?

Dr. DeMoss:
I was a chemistry major. I was predestined. My mom wanted me to go to dental school. I was living through my mom. She was a dental hygienist, and she wanted all of her sons to be dentists. I did talk to dentists. Some of them love what they do. Some of them told me not to go to dental school, said it was stressful. It was expensive.

Dr. Pompa:
Hey, Billy, by the way, I was heading to dental school myself. I was thinking about being a dentist. I went and spent a day in a dental office, and I said, “There is no way.”

Dr. DeMoss:
No. A lot of the dentists I talked to were just grumpy, dude. They were not happy people.

Dr. Pompa:
By the way, they’re the sickest profession, sickest profession on the planet.

Dr. DeMoss:
Highest suicide rate, too.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. Absolutely.

Dr. DeMoss:
I’m also reading Suzanne Humphries’s book right now too. Not to get distracted, but there’s a lot of suicide just in medicine alone, because I feel like they’ve been given this messiah complex. They really don’t do anything for health, in my opinion, but that’s my opinion of course.

I was a chemistry major. I was into nutrition back in the 70s when that was considered quackery too, and then somebody, just as a joke, threw a meric chart. I was studying in the basement at Cal State Fullerton in the science building for a chemistry test, obviously. I think it was probably a physical chemistry test. I looked at this meric chart. I had really no knowledge of chiropractic at all. It talked about how the brain, and the spinal cord, and the nerves coordinate all the functions of all the organs in the body, and if there’s any interference to that expression of intelligence that flows over those nerves, then we can have the susceptibility to disease.

What a chiropractor does is finds out where these subluxations are—ub meaning less, lux, less light—and then corrects those subluxations to normalize function again. I go, this makes total sense to me. I was always kind of anti-medical, because I never really would—I know people would remember Marcus Welby, but I was just never [inaudible] mentality, and they put themselves in this superiority complex. I didn’t want to say that, but I just did. From there, I decided to go to chiropractic.

I went and talked to chiropractors, and they were all super excited, and they loved their jobs. Their offices always have lots of happy people in it, versus we’d go to a dentist. It’s like you said. It was, oh my god, this is horrible. Then I came home. We were sitting at the dinner table. I can remember this as vivid as day. I went to tell my parents that I had changed my mind—I had already been accepted to three dental schools—that I was going to become a chiropractor, and my mom almost choked. Then she got up, and she started washing the dishes. We weren’t even done with dinner. As she’s walking away, she goes, “You’re wasting your life.” I go, wow. That was like, I’m glad I’m getting so much love at home.

It was just because they’d believed all the propaganda and all the anti-AMA slam and that we’re quacks, charlatans. People had no idea what chiropractic—and still, people don’t know what chiropractic is and what real chiropractic is, in my opinion. Again, we all have different opinions based on whatever road we’ve traveled on, but when you’ve been in practice for 31 years, you basically have a pretty good idea of how and why chiropractic works. That’s why I got into it.

I had this idea of this chiropractic philosophy going into school that the brain controls the organs and glands. I wasn’t even looking at it as this back pain, neck pain thing. Then I go to a school that that’s all I learned about was neck pain and back pain. It wasn’t about improved function and life extension. That’s where I think chiropractic’s headed in the future.

Dr. Pompa:
Let’s stop right there, because we get new viewers. We haven’t done a show really on the benefits of chiropractic in a long time. On this show, I’m a firm believer, obviously, that you go to a chiropractor not for pain, although it’s good for that. We go. I’ve had my kids adjusted since the time they were born, by myself and other chiropractors. My family, right now, even though I don’t practice chiropractic anymore, we pay to go to a chiropractor. We do. We pay for everything. All of us get adjusted. I prefer my kids and family getting adjusted by other chiropractors. The point is, we’re not in pain. We do it because we believe what you said.

Let’s start right there, because we have a lot of new viewers. Right behind you is showing nerves going to every organ of the body. Talk a little bit about the chiropractic that you believe in, Billy, and why you will go to a chiropractor without pain for the rest of your life just like my family.

Dr. DeMoss:
I get adjusted a lot, only because I have a job that’s physically demanding on my spine. A lot of people have a job where they sit all day, which is even more physically demanding to me. That’s why there’s chiropractic exploding, is because of just all the poor posture. I try to teach people that I don’t cure anything, because the body’s a self-healing organism, but you’ve got to provide the body with what it needs. It needs the raw materials to do that.

The first thing it needs is it needs to have 100% nerve flow. Maybe sometimes we can’t get you back to 100%, but if you’re at 70%, let’s at least get you back to 90%. I know both of us are really big on nutrition. You’re got to make sure that the body has the proper fuel. It has to have the proper vitamins, and enzymes, and proper proteins to rebuild the body as healthy as possible. Both of us are big on—I know that I could probably out-bike you, but—no, I’m just kidding. You’re in great shape too, dude. That’s the whole thing. The reality is it’s not that we’re in great shape. We’re in normal shape. Everybody that leads a sedentary lifestyle is living at a lower—they’re in a deficit.

I was talking to my patient today, and he was talking about how his kid’s all ripped, and I go, no, that’s the way kids are supposed to look. You see kids today that are all blatantly obese, morbidly obese. You see kids that are—because kids don’t get exercise anymore. As soon as we’re done with this podcast, I’m going to go to the beach and either surf, or do a run in the sand, or do some type of physical motion. Then I’m big on rest.

The thing that both you and I have is that we have a purpose when we get up. It’s not like I get up and go, what am I going to do today? Every day of my life is pretty much directed on getting people to understand this chiropractic philosophy, get people to eat better, move, get people to do proper cleansing. I mean, we’re really big on that, getting the brain cleaned out. Again, I can’t tell you how much better I feel doing the program. Again, it’s not like I get up—I’ve got drive when I get up; I’ve got purpose. It’s so important for people to also find a purpose in their lives and find something that really makes them excited to get out of bed and get to whatever they—I love coming to the office because I get to hang out with all of my peeps in my practice and hang out with the kids.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, and in your practice you made mention—I mean obviously, you remove chemical interference, and you do Truso detox in your office. Right. Let’s get back to the nerve interference subject because this group hasn’t heard a lot about that maybe, at least the newer folks. Again, behind on the wall when you said nerve interference, the cells need nerve flow. I mean, talk a little bit about that. I mean, we both—

Dr. DeMoss:
Again, if we can understand that the nerves through the brain and spinal cord control all the organs and glands. If you take the nerve to the heart and you cut it, eventually you’re going to have dysfunction and disease in that heart. You can take that to the colon or any other organ. What happens is when there’s irritation to nerves, then what happens is sure, you can have pain, which is you have about a one in nine chance of having pain. That’s what most people perceive as a chiropractic [inaudible]. If those same nerves are being compromised that control the heart, or the lungs, or the stomach, or the reproductive system of a female, you could have things like infertility, or painful irregular menstrual cycle, or any of those types of things.

Dr. Pompa:
Go back, I’m going to make you do this, Dr. DeMoss. Go back—you don’t want to go back on that thing behind you, but I keep trying to get your attention to it. It—Show that. Pick the darn thing up and go over there and show that to them.

Dr. DeMoss:
All right.

Dr. Pompa:
Listen, we’re one of your patients right now. Here’s what we’re doing, Billy. We’re going, “Dr. DeMoss, I don’t understand why my pain is gone. Why should I come to you? I don’t get it.”

Dr. DeMoss:
Let me see if I can get this right. There we go. Let’s go over to whatever most people think. Okay, they come in and they’ve got neck and arm pain. Can you see that okay?

Dr. Pompa:
No.

Dr. DeMoss:
Okay. What I get people to understand is that’s the same nerves if we come over here that run the heart and the thyroid glands. Let’s say somebody comes to you and they’ve got neck and arm pain, but also in the history you find that they’re on synthroid or something because they have thyroid issues. Again, you don’t have a thyroid issues because you have a shorter [inaudible] in your body. There’s a reason. There’s a cause to your dysfunction, your disease, in your body, and you can treat it with chemicals which is not doing anything to fix the problem; it’s just basically a Band-Aid to get rid of your symptoms. What we want to do is we want to address the cause.

Of course, we’re going to look at you nutritionally, but the thing that the chiropractor does is they look at nerve flow to make sure that we can maximize nerve flow. Another thing that I do with patients, and I’ll come back to this in a minute, is that I use this little wall switch that I have in my office. I have lights in my office and what I say when you have a subluxation it basically dims the energy. What we do in chiropractic is we turn that power back up.

Dr. Pompa:
Right.

Dr. DeMoss:
Let’s go back to the nerve chart. Half my practice is kids, and kids don’t come to me with back pain usually. They come to me with things like asthma, or they come to me—I just had a kid that came to me two days ago with acid reflux. Okay, they go to a pediatrician. What does a pediatrician do? They recommend a six-week go on a prescription of Zantac. Now I’m thinking to myself if that isn’t quackery, I don’t know what is. That’s just the way I think. If you like drugs and you want drugs for your kids, there’s plenty of drugs out there and they’re going to sell you more and more drugs every day.

They want you to take drugs just like you chew a piece of gum; they just want it to be a part of your life whereas chiropractors, I mean, I don’t take any drugs. I’ve only taken drugs once in my life because that’s when I broke all my ribs, okay?  If I can find a subluxation on a child where it’s interfering with lung function, we can get rid of things like asthma.

Dr. Pompa:
What is subluxation? What is the definition of a subluxation?

Dr. DeMoss:
A subluxation is when the spine is out of its normal alignment or when it has a restricted range of motion due to adhesions from scar tissue. It could be both of those. When there’s abhorrent or abnormal position of the spine or there’s abnormal motion in the spine, it’s going to cause interference to the communication over those nerves. Our objective is to get the motion normalized, and get the alignment normalized, and getting the posture normalized so that we can have normal nerve flow again.

Dr. Pompa:
When you’re a chiropractor like yourself, you’re assessing the spine and the misalignments of the spine, and really concerned about turning that nerve flow on to those organs. I mean, ultimately it’s the brain that runs every tissue in the body, every cell, every organ; the brain’s got it. The misalignments, the subluxation, is interfering with what the brain needs to do just to make normal function in every organ that I’m looking at. That’s basically what you’re saying.

Dr. DeMoss:
Right. What I try to teach people too is your body is wired to express health. It’s when you’re sick; it’s not because of bad genes. Only about 1%, I think, of sickness disease, if you listen to guys like Bruce Lipton will say about 1% is from genes. Even if you had a genetic potential for something, you’d still want to do things to make yourself healthier. See, chiropractic’s not just about pain reduction. It’s about elevating your vibrations by removing obstructions to that flow of nerve energy over the nerves.

Again, that’s why having a pediatric practice reaffirms that., like I was referring to that story where we had that kid with acid reflux and they recommended Zantac. They bring him in here; the kid hadn’t slept one night in six weeks. The mother came in with the huge bags under her eyes because she doesn’t sleep, and in two adjustments the kid’s a completely different kid. People can’t believe what a simple—and it’s not a simple adjustment. It’s a very specific adjustment of the upper cervical spine that can do to help things like colic, and reflux, and ear infections, and asthma, and ADHD, and ADD, and all the other things kids are just regularly prescribed drugs for.

Again, that’s an antiquated system that’s on its way out. I guess drugs are good in a crisis, in an emergency to get you over whatever that crisis is. Let’s after the crisis, after the fire’s out, let’s find out why the fire started. Let’s figure out what caused the fire. Let’s see what we can do to reverse and rebuild that system because like I said, your body’s wired to be healthy as long as you provide it with what it needs.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. Listen, I mean that’s the philosophy that you and I have. Your philosophy in life will dictate your values therefore your actions, your behaviors of psychology. Our philosophy is God gave us bodies that know how to heal. That nerve system knows everything that your body needs on a daily basis. Interfering with it will eventually lead to disease and symptoms that people do not like that typically have been educated to take medications to remove the symptoms. Our philosophy says wait a minute. There’s a reason the body’s sending off these warning signals, whether it’s a headache or this. There’s a reason. Let’s look at the reason, whether it’s chemical or whether it’s physical interference, of that nerve system that gets this information. We’ve got a problem.

Look, I have five kids and my kids have never taken a drug in their life. My son, Isaac, almost died, like you, on a ski slope, by the way. Broke his ribs, shattered his spleen, crushed his lungs. He was on pain medication. That was it. His body didn’t need anything else. Okay, my kids, not one—here’s the deal: my three biological children have never taken an antibiotic, a cough syrup in their life. My two adopted did take antibiotics all the time before age seven. They’re 20 now, so what miraculously happened? Instead of taking medication, we started adjusting them, changed their diet, removed interferences, and did a lot of detox on both of them. Miraculously they haven’t been on a medication since they were age seven and below, now in their 20s.

Philosophy, Billy. If we can communicate one thing to the people listening and watching, it is that your philosophy will determine your values and therefore your actions, behaviors, and psychology. We live life differently; I hope we’re contagious. I hope you all hear that. Chiropractic, it is about opening up nerves and opening up life to the cells and the tissues. This show, it’s called Cellular Healing TV. The cells wouldn’t do anything if it wasn’t for that nerve flow, Billy. That’s why you have such a large pediatric practice there. I know that you’re not saying you won’t fix any of those conditions. All you do is remove that nerve interference. Then the body gets those signals and has the ability to heal. I know that’s what you’re saying.

Dr. DeMoss:
We just remove any obstruction to healing. That’s all we do.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no doubt. You gave us some just amazing testimonies of how that happens. You know who I interviewed actually last night is, I know he MCs CalJam, which we’re going to talk about in a minute, is Gilles LaMarche, Dr. Gilles LaMarche.

Dr. DeMoss:
I was [inaudible] this year, too.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, he’s speaking at my seminar in November and MC-ing my seminar. Gilles has an amazing story. You know it as well as I. He retold it last night, and I was like gosh, that is amazing. They basically told Gilles he was going to be dead in a couple years. There was nothing he could do about it, and he was preparing for that. Then he realized as a chiropractor that he was just randomly getting adjusted by random people. He says, “Gosh, I’m violating what I’m telling these people.” He went to one of his good friends and said, “I’m your patient. I’m only going to see you. This is what’s going on.” When they looked at his x-ray and his thoracic spine, which you’re pushing on back there, he had some apparent major subluxations. He started getting that worked on consistently by one guy. Sure enough, his whole world started to change. Now, he’s not only not dead, he’s the vice president of one of the largest chiropractic schools in the world. What an amazing guy that’s made a difference for chiropractic. You hear so many of those stories. I just had lunch with a guy here in town, Chris Zaino. You know Dr. Zaino, right?

Dr. DeMoss:
Oh, of course, I know Chris. How could you not know Chris?

Dr. Pompa:
I think he just won Mr. Natural Universe, actually. Guy’s amazing. Point is, why is he so passionate about chiropractic. I don’t know how many people his office sees in a week, but it’s over 2,000. I know that for sure. It came out of the same thing. Chiropractic affected his life. He had some major Crohn’s, colitis, gut issues. He literally started getting adjusted, and it changed his world. Another passionate individual who’s now a chiropractor based on his story of how chiropractic changed his life. Great stuff, man.

Talk a little bit about—I hope we’ve educated people about chiropractic. Your philosophy is so deep rooted. Your desire to bring the chiropractic message that we briefly described right there to the world you started probably out of your own frustration. I’ll let you tell the story of how California Jam existed. Tell them a little bit about what it is, but also tell why you created it because it is the largest now chiropractic seminar on the planet. Tell us that story.

Dr. DeMoss:
Well, it really came out of we have the Dead Chiropractic Society, which is just really—I saw the movie The Dead Poets Society. I got together and started reading Green Books with another guy, and then all these people started showing up and wanted to read Green Books with us. Green Books are the original chiropractic philosophy books about discussing chiropractic but also discussing the fact that the body is a self-healing organism. The things that B.J. Palmer and D.D. Palmer, the founders of chiropractic, talked about in the late 1800s early 1900s is still true today. If you look at medications, every year there’s a new medication because they find out that this one—you look at the PDR and then all the drugs in there change every year because all these drugs have negative side effects. Our philosophy hasn’t really changed that much. Of course, the science, the arts have all change, but the basic premise that the body is a self-healing organism—if there’s interference to the nervous system, you’re going to have septical disease. I started the Dead Chiropractic Society. Chiropractors started coming in. We would have a hundred a month.

Then, somebody approached me and said well, why don’t we do a philosophy seminar for chiropractors and do 12 hours of CE. The doctors get credit. I say okay, that’s a great idea. I went and looked at hotels to do it at. Then I looked at that performing arts center. I go I want to do this kind of on a high level. I want to do it at just this opulent, beautiful—just to kind of raise the bar, you know? I go out and rent this place. I sign on the dotted line, write the guy a check, and I come back to the guy that originally gave me the idea to do it thinking that he was going to pitch in and do half with me and he goes, “No, it was just an idea. You’re on it on your own.” I’m going oh, thanks, dude. I wrote a check for like 50 grand, which is a lot of money for me. I mean, it’s a lot of money for anybody, really, to kind of roll the dice. I wasn’t even sure if anybody was even going to show up, you know? The first year we did really well. We had 1,200 people show up to it, which is for a seminar in California. It’s never ever been done. It’s the biggest seminar ever in California history.

It’s built from then. Then I really wanted to kind of address other issues. You and I love chiropractic, but there’s also things—I’m big on nutrition, so I wanted to bring in nutritional experts. We had you speak on detox last year. I’m also really big on things that really bother me as the way we treat the planet. There were issues with Fukushima, or GMO, or geoengineering, or all these other issues that are not only plaguing human health but plaguing—the planet’s going to live. It’s whether or not we’re going to be able to coexist on a planet that we’ve destroyed. There’s other issues. What I’m trying to do is make the menu and the whole event super eclectic because—you and I know this. We go to seminars. I go to seminars almost twice a month, okay, because I speak at a lot of them. It’s always the same chiropractors in the room who are always preaching to the choir. I want our choir to be the world. I want them to really hear the chiropractic story. In addition, they’re going to come for guys like Deepak Chopra, or they’re going to come for guys like Dan Pompa, or they’re going to come for guys like—we’ve got David Asprey this year from Bulletproof Coffee or JJ Virgin. I try to bring a really star-studded menu that attracts people for other reasons. Then intermingled and sprinkled in there, they’re going to get great chiropractors and hear chiropractic stories so that they get introduced to chiropractic the way you and I look at it. Some people like to look at it as kind of an orthopractic thing where it’s just all mechanical low back pain only. Again, if chiropractors want to practice that way, I’m not saying that’s bad. I’m just saying why limit yourself. Again, I’m not saying it’s bad or good. I’m saying I look at the body as a whole. If there’s anything that we can do to improve the overall expression of a person’s health, let’s do it, man! Again, that’s why I get into all the other things.

What we did to make the event super special is we brought live music in to keep the energy high. We had great production with videos. It’s a rock show of chiropractors. Then, we have two amazing parties.

Dr. Pompa:

It’s an amazing seminar. It is a blast and educational at the same time, which, by the way, because you make it fun, it takes the educational level to the next level.

Dr. DeMoss:
It’s interactive. You keep the energy high.

Dr. Pompa:
No doubt. Talk about some of the speakers that are there this year. I want the public to know what’s going on because these are issues that are near and dear to our heart, and the level of speakers, and the doctors listening, too. I want them to hear who’s coming.

Dr. DeMoss:
I did a podcast yesterday with Susan Humphries. Are you familiar with Susan? She wrote the book Dissolving Illusions, which is a book. She’s an MD. She’s a nephrologist. She was a kidney specialist. I’m reading her new book, which is Rising From the Dead, about how she just saw the light and how bogus medicine can be. She just noticed in her kidney practice that these people their kidneys would shut down after just flu shots. She started doing research, and when she started presenting this—like, if somebody had their kidneys shut down from any other drug, people would address this. Anytime you would bring that holy water up about—you can never question a vaccine because vaccines save the world, which is another whole scam. She just noticed all these people would have these huge problems with kidney function immediately after getting vaccinated. She noticed it in the hospital that she worked in. These people would come in for a myriad of different conditions, and the first thing they would do is give these people flu shots without even addressing having any consultation. She would immediately see kidney function just drop immediately. She started doing research. She started bringing this up to her colleagues. Everybody thought she was crazy.

Then she wrote the book Dissolving Illusions, which is a book to answer people’s problems, especially when it comes to polio and smallpox Look, we got rid of polio. We got rid of smallpox. Yeah, if you understand why those things are no longer around, it didn’t have anything to do with the vaccines. That’s just what you’ve been sold. That’s the opinion she has. The fact that she’s an MD—I don’t know if that lends more credibility. Of course, she’s an MD, and all of a sudden she goes against the holy water of vaccination. Now, she’s a quack because she’s not in that paradigm. She’s not in their paradigm where things have to be injected. Now, you have to take this pill. You have to have that surgery. That’s that system. Again, that system’s great for emergency crisis. What you and I try to do is we try to build health from within. I’ve got her speaking. I’m flying her out from New Zealand.

Dr. Pompa:
Before you get into the next one, I want to take you back on that. First of all, Meredith, maybe you could put a link for her book for people because I know a lot of our viewers want to be more educated on this topic even sometimes to defend their own point. Let’s promote her book. Then, you had Andy Wakefield there last year. Oh my gosh! He is part of the movie Vaxxed, which is a new film. It’s not about anti-vaccines. It’s about the cover-up and the—

Dr. DeMoss:
It’s not even a cover-up. It’s corruption.

Dr. Pompa:
Corruption. Absolutely. William Thomas came out from the CDC and said hey, I was told to cover and change these numbers. By the way, on the very study that every pediatrician holds on to that says it’s been proven that vaccines do not cause autism. It is this study that William Thomas came out and said yes, I was told to fudge the numbers to make it say that. Wakefield, an MD scientist researcher, has been attacked.  People still think that oh, he was wrong. Talk a little bit about that. He’s not coming back this year? He’s not speaking this year?

Dr. DeMoss:
Yeah, we may do a panel with him this year. I mean, he’s been there the last three years. The thing about Andrew Wakefield, he is the most genuine, loving, caring, and he’s really super articulate, and he’s highly educated. He’s a gastroenterologist pediatric. He was noticing all these kids were coming in after their MMR were having all these gut issues, and at the same time, they were somewhere on that whole autism spectrum. He just presented this information in the labs. All of the sudden, they said dude, we got to bury this information, and then we’ve got to get rid of this dude. They basically just ostracized him. That’s too bad because he did it just because he was trying to help. You’re trying to help these kids. All of a sudden, he gets nailed to the cross for trying to really just help children. It’s so sad because people think that he’s like this demon or something. If they actually get in his presence and hang out with him, he’s such a gentle person. Again, the first time I met him it was in San Diego at a pediatric conference, and I just couldn’t believe how—and I asked him. I go dude, are you anti-vacs? He goes no, I’m not anti-vacs. I am just a scientist. In fact, I vaccinated my own kids not knowing any better. I was just presenting what I was showing so that we could figure out why all these kids were having all these gut issues and having all these issues with autism. Of course, the news, the media is controlled—they buried the dude. I think it’s our responsibility to help him regain—let people know the truth about him.

We have Del Bigtree speaking this year. He’s an awesome speaker. I don’t watch TV, so I might not say this exactly. He worked on a show called Doctors. He started hearing about all the cover-up at the CDC, and the vast conspiracy, and how they fudged the data. Basically, it was outright corruption, and he wanted to bring that on the show. They go no way are we going to cover this, man. Look at who our sponsors are. We would just be shooting ourselves in the foot. He actually by an act of God got called to this party. Andrew was at the party, Andrew Wakefield, and Del Bigtree was there. Then Andrew was telling a story. He was trying to build this mood. He goes, dude, I’m in Hollywood, dude. I’ll help you do it. They had this movie, and it was supposed to come out at the Tribeca Film Festival. Then that got buried. I’m forgetting the Hollywood star that was the—then they had to pull that. De Niro wanted to show the movie because he has an autistic kid.

Here’s the deal. This is what I am so stoked about is the world—I mean, you can keep sticking your finger in the dykes but the information is coming out everywhere. You can cover-up that lie as long as you can. The sad thing, the thing that really pisses me off—and I hope I can say piss off on this thing because it really does. It drives the passion in me to get this word out to people. More kids are going to be maimed. It’s not only maiming these children, but it causes a disruption in the family unit. Basically, it ripples through society. You have families that are being destroyed. You have cities that are being destroyed because it’s the whole fabric of society. The saddest thing is if the trends continue the way they’re going right now aided by medical doctors that study epidemiology and disease, that we’re going to have one in two kids that are going to be autistic in the next decade.

I know you and I are big about cleaning that stuff out. Would it make more sense if we prevented it from happening? Eighty percent of the males will be autistic. You just think about not only the social ramifications but think about just how it’s going to affect the economy. It will literally [inaudible] this country’s not already bankrupt. That’s the whole goal. We won’t go down rabbit hole because I don’t know if you’re—

Dr. Pompa:
Thank you. People need to hear, Billy.  You’re bringing it to the attention of the world. Vaxxed, if you haven’t seen it, see it. We’re not telling anybody out there not to vaccinate. What we’re telling you is that you better educate yourself. You better educate yourself. I believe if you’d look at the information and you dig deep, you’re going to question what you’ve been sold. It’s a sacred cow. I know that I know that I know that you’re going to come out with a different outcome.

Thank you for that, Billy. Those amazing speakers. I forgot he was coming. He is the producer of Vaxxed, correct?

Dr. DeMoss:
Right. He’s on fire. He’s like a bulldog. I wouldn’t want to mess with that cat.

Dr. Pompa:
Oh my God, yeah, I know. I thought one of the greatest parts of that movie was you see people in the beginning. There was the pediatrician on the show, I guess, that he produced: The Doctors or Doctor. I’m like you. Whatever that show is. He was like well, why would I question the CDC? I mean, these are the smartest scientist in the world, and the CDC says. There’s this view as a pediatrician on this show. I thought he said the greatest thing to them. “If I gave you this,” and there’s a stack of research, “would you read it and you’re that open?” Basically because the camera is running still—“Of course I would. Of course I would. There’s another side.” Then later in the show, he’s going holy cow, I had no idea. That is the most of the doctors that wholeheartedly believe in vaccinations. They simply just have no idea of the real research, the real studies.

It’s a father and son, the Grier twins. I’m saying it wrong. They worked at the NIH. Still do. They were given the job to investigate why there are so many vaccine injuries and why, basically, the whole fund went bankrupt. When they dug into this information, when the CDC was pushing them out of the doors and doing cover-ups, it raised massive question. It’s amazing watching the interviews with those guys because they said we were just trying to gather numbers. Just in the process of gathering numbers, red flags started going up. Of course, now they stand different to what they believe vaccines are actually doing to our society.

Anyway, what else? Just tell us a little bit else about CalJam. We only have a couple minutes left. Meredith, you can Vox me a question that you have for Billy, perhaps.

Dr. DeMoss:
Well, we’re going to have FullyRaw Kristina because I really like to attract a younger crowd. The reason I like FullyRaw Kristina is that she’s got a huge, huge following on YouTube. That’s why I’m having Dave Asprey from Bulletproof Coffee because he’s got a huge following. I try to get people because—a lot of times, people in our own chiropractic profession want to say well, it’s not a chiropractic seminar. Well, I don’t want it to be all about chiropractic. I’m trying to attract the public. I mean, I understand chiropractic. I don’t need to go to another seminar to hear how great the wonders of chiropractic. That’s all we do. We go to these seminars all the time. We pat ourselves on the back on stuff we already know. When is the world going to understand? When are they going to get it in an uncensored, fresh environment? They’re going to learn other things.

We’re having the same dentist back. We had Dr. David Kennedy last year, and he talked about the dangers of fluoride. Everybody loved the dude! He’s going to come back this year. He’s going to talk about mercury amalgams. That’s another whole level of toxicity that people don't understand and why they’re becoming—why we have these just huge epidemics of Alzheimer’s that are right around the corner. I heard at a Dan Murphy seminar that by the age 60 in the next decade, half the people are going to have pre-Alzheimer’s or Alzheimer’s just from all the toxicity.

Dr. Pompa:
Billy, exactly. Hey, you’re having me back because I’m bringing the solution to what we’ve got to do to get [inaudible] system.

Dr. DeMoss:
Yeah, of course, you are! Somebody called me the other day. Somebody sent me a message on Facebook. I have a friend that’s got really bad Alzheimer’s. Do you know anywhere I could send him to have him treated for Alzheimer’s? I go, “Frigging send him here, man!” Obviously, we want to clean the brain up, but I’ve worked with so many people that have cognitive issues. Just working on the upper cervical spine alone helps cognitive function.

Dr. Pompa:
What you just said is a really good ending point right there. What is our philosophy? We remove the interference physically, emotionally, and chemically. All these things we’re talking about, the vaccines, the fillings, everything that we’re being bombarded with from our protective government bodies [inaudible].

Dr. DeMoss:
[inaudible] throw that in there just because I want more people to know about that.

Dr. Pompa:
Let me tell you something. We’re being experimented on, Billy, right? You know what we just said? You know what they want to do? My wife just sent me over this today, and this will put you [inaudible]

Dr. DeMoss:
Are they going to spray these, too, for West Nile virus?

Dr. Pompa:
They want to spray us on the airplanes. That’s what they want to do. In the air, they want to spray us because—by the way, that happened to me when I went from Africa to here. They came in, and they went right down the aisle saying this is protective from the CDC. They went down the aisle with a pesticide spraying us. I reached in my bag. Thank God I had it. I pulled out a carbon mask.

Dr. DeMoss:
I’m going to start bringing my gas mask on the plane. I have a gas mask.

Dr. Pompa:
I bring it every flight when I go out of the country. Now, they want to do that in the country, Billy. I’m looking for the darn email, here.

Dr. DeMoss:
I saw that Facebook post. Here’s the rip. The global elite don’t fly in frigging commercial airlines. They’ve got their own jets. The reality is—I don’t know how deep you want to go. There’s a certain degree of people on the planet that want to lower the number of people on the planet, and we need to do that by eradicating a few billion people.

Dr. Pompa:
Billy, I’ve got to add to that. Watch—

Dr. DeMoss:
You just went out. I can’t hear you.

Dr. Pompa:
Oh, can you hear me? Can anyone hear me? Can you hear me? Okay. Shark Tank. There’s a gentleman on there. He was very proud of this. He was selling his new thing. They were asking him his experience. He said well, I just finished with the Gates Foundation. What we developed was drones to spray the African population for population control. Now, for him it was a great thing. We’re going to make these people infertile. I get it. They’re going hey, if we can just control this. He developed the system, the drone, to do that over in Africa. A little interesting thing if you watch some of the Shark Tanks. That was just a couple weeks ago. I taped them. A couple weeks ago for me watching but I don’t know [inaudible].

Listen, I want to offer those—we get a lot of docs watching this. The CalJam. We have Meredith who put it up. You get $47 off each ticket, $27 off for your CA or other folks you want to bring. Go to Californiajam.org. That’s the word California then J-A-M.org. Click on Store and then tab and enter the coupon, my name, P-O-M-P-A, all caps, Pompa. It is cap sensitive, so all caps. P-O-M-P-A, and you’ll get that discount. Billy?

Dr. DeMoss:
They get 18 hours with it.

Dr. Pompa:
That’s awesome. Californiajam.org, put in my name in all caps, and get the discount. Billy, that’s the least, the least, we can do for getting there. Meredith, are you going to Vox me anything? Come on, let’s use technology. Oh, maybe she did. Let’s look. This is fun. Nope, no Meredith. No Vox. I use Voxer, Billy, because I’m dyslexic, and I hate texting. Everything’s backwards with me. Voxer allows me to use the gift that I have, and that’s talk more.

Dr. DeMoss:
I don’t feel your pain. I don’t have a cell phone yet. I’m working on that.

Meredith:
I’m a little curious how has TCD been implementing it into your office, Dr. Billy?

Dr. DeMoss:
I need to be on it more. The reality was, and I’m not going to use this as an excuse, but when I had this ski injury I was out of practice and disabled for four months. I’m really literally rebuilding everything back in my practice.

Dr. Pompa:
Poor guy almost died, honestly.

Dr. DeMoss:
Still my shoulder’s pretty jacked up. My ribs still give me a lot of problem. When you’re not in your practice for four months, you’re not really—and I didn’t care. I’m at a point in my life where it’s not like I have to practice, but I’m really focused on getting the TCD program more implemented and also working on getting my patient business back where they should be. I’m in a rebuilding phase right now. It’s no problem. We all have little valleys, and peaks, and we can’t always be [inaudible].

Dr. Pompa:
You believe strongly in getting the interference out of nerve system, and cellular detox, that’s the way to do it.

Billy, thank you. Thank you for being here. We’re going to drive more and more people to this information and CalJam. Thank you.

Dr. DeMoss:
I want to do a podcast with you coming up soon.

Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely. Always, Billy.

Dr. DeMoss:
I would love to have Meredith on it, too.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, tell her. She can hear you. She just can’t speak. I’ll let you shut it down. See you, Dr. Billy.

Dr. DeMoss:
Rock and roll, baby. Rock and Roll.