Transcript of Episode 139: Staying the Course When It's Tough
With Dr. Daniel Pompa, Meredith Dykstra, and Jessica Klatt
Meredith:
Hello, everyone, and welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I am your host, Meredith Dykstra and we are so excited that you're joining us today. We've got a really fun show. This is Episode 139 and today, Dr. Pompa, we have a very special client testimonial. I know that you love these shows. It's so fun to bring this information to people and to share with those who have actually gone through it like you have, Jessica, and for you to share your story as to how Dr. Pompa has walked you through the process of cellular healing. This is just going to be so fun to talk about today and before we get started, let me tell you all a little about Jessica.
Jessica has a loving husband of sixteen years and is the mother of two amazing boys, ages eleven and fourteen. She has made discovering the truth behind good health a priority in her life. Struggling her entire life with digestion issues, depression, and extreme weight gain and weight loss, she finally turned to food and nutrition to help manage her symptoms instead of medication. This helped; however, getting to the real issue was the key to finally get her life back.
Fortunately, God had a plan and he put her faith in each open door that he presented. Discovering that heavy metals were creating her symptoms led her down the path to recovery. The day she reached out to Dr. Pompa was the first day of the rest of her life and she can finally say, after all these years, she feels like the curtain is lifting and she's finally able to be the person God created her to be.
Jessica hopes to inspire others to take their own health to the next level. Awesome, Jessica. Thanks for joining Cellular Healing TV and welcome to the show.
Jessica:
Thank you. I'm happy to be here.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, Jessica, thank you so much. One of the things I always say is I believe it's our duty to tell our story. I'm sure you spent many hours and I'm honored that always God chooses to use me to answer your prayers. For whoever that is, I always pray that God sends me the ones He wants me to help and the ones I can help and I'm honored to serve Him in serving you. I always say that. It's our duty. It's our testimony I believe that changes lives, right? It really is about your journey. I just said before the show started—I read back where you started, and I'll let you bring more life to this, but I'll just read some of these things and then you can talk more in depth about it.
One of the things that when I read and heard your story originally, I thought oh my gosh, this is me. You even had thoughts of suicide. So did I. I was depressed. I wanted to die. These are little things I jotted down when we talked our very first appointment.
You had some other bizarre things just like I did. You had this right eye thing with the red inflammation. You'd get these flare-ups. I had weird things going on similar. You had a reoccurring eczema; I believe it was on your face on the one side Yup, exactly. You obviously struggled with weight loss resistance. You had multiple allergies, hormonal issues galore; so did I, and then you had workout intolerance. That was a thing that crushed me. I would try to work out and I'd be left more fatigue. I mean, we've had many of those conversations.
When we look at your exposures, you had some mold exposures all the way back in 1999. You had 9 amalgams removed in 2013 and '14 by a biological dentist. You did it right. You had one removed later, maybe a year later in 2010. You had one crown drilled out wrong. You got sick after that, created fevers and eye twitching, and more skin issues. I think you had some braces and retainers that were causing some galvanism. You wore contacts just like I did, early '90s, which was a mercury source. A tetanus shot in 2011, you had a bad reaction to; tip off right there because they still contained mercury. You were in a remodeled home as a kid which would explain some of your lead levels, which by the way, that's her lead level, folks, that big black line going off the charts.
I know you had some reactions to detoxes in the past and different things like that. You did a lot of things wrong with that and I had said to Meredith before the call got started. I said listen, Jessica was obviously to that point in her life, and I sensed it when I spoke to you at first, that you were willing to do anything because you had done so many things, spent a lot of money in bad places and you have done everything I told you to do. You fasted, you intermittent fasted, you diet variation, 5-1-1, I mean, all these things that we talk about on the show. Multiple brain phases at this point, which didn't start easy. Anyways, that kind of gives people an idea of where you've come from, but add some more of where you've come from and talk about some of that journey. I just made it sound real quick and easy, but it wasn't.
Jessica:
No, it wasn't easy at all. Looking back on it, it feels like there were times when I thought I would never finish, that it would never get anywhere and it has, so growing up I was sick. I was always sick. I don't really know if it correlated with vaccinations or getting fillings, but I just remember being really young. All of it, I was told I had mono at one point, but it was inconclusive on a blood test. I had my tonsils removed when I was in fourth grade because they would swell up so big they would close my throat. Just stuff like that all through my life and then the depression.
Dr. Pompa:
Your depression actually was a teenager. I mean you spent—these are my notes. You spent your teenage years living on antidepressants with hormone deficiency.
Jessica:
I was on everything. I was on Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, probably other stuff. As a young adult I was on Seroquel, which is a tranquilizer. Anything to try to feel normal. I was told I was bipolar. I was told I had seasonal affective disorder. I had one of those big lights. I did everything I was supposed to do, and then becoming a mom at a young age really didn't help. It got worse with each pregnancy. The post-partum depression would get worse and that's when they discovered that maybe the thyroid's linked, and they said that was post-partum and would resolve itself. I never felt like it did. Honestly, I just went through years of doctors' visits and follow-up visits to be told I should be on anti-depressants.
Dr. Pompa:
Let me add one thing to the post-partum depression. We know that lead like this comes out from your bones during pregnancy. Lead like this will lead to post-partum depression and other hormone dysfunctions.
Jessica:
It definitely did. Every pregnancy it was just more and more evident and it was about 2007 I suppose, that I finally just said enough. I'm done. I had been referred to a doctor and gotten some tranquilizers to help level my moods out, and I did it for a little bit and just felt numb to everything and I thought, I'm done.
That’s when I turned to nutrition. I had read that there was a possible link to gluten and thyroid issues. I just knew that there was something happening there and honestly, it was just a road that led to here. It started with that, and I had some results. It wasn't perfect, but I had some, and up until about 2010, I saw a lot of good changes. In 2010, I had that filling drilled out, and that's when everything fell apart again. I was making progress and I questioned the doctor, the dentist. I questioned it and he said it's fine. The ABA says there's no risk. I had no -inaudible-; I swallowed most of it. I got sick days later, days, really sick.
Dr. Pompa:
Same thing happened to me, days later.
Jessica:
I had no idea that there was a connection. My right eye twitched for six months straight. I started getting skin issues, severe. From 2010 until 2013, it was just become worse and worse. The food allergies would get worse and worse. The eczema started, and I actually thought it was impetigo the first—I got it right here, and it was an open wound on my face. I missed and entire week of work. It spread, and I didn't know what was causing it. Then I realized it was dairy. When it happened a second time, I was able to put two and two together, but stuff like that was just becoming very common.
I do have a friend who is a chiropractor who has followed your teachings for years. She really suggested that I look into the mercury connection with that. She really felt that that was causing it, so I did and it was long, long process. I just remember my very first filling that I had taken out, or the first quadrant that I had done. I had to do the Vitamin C after. I remember it took me almost 50,000 international units, or whatever, to hit tolerance. It was the worst day of my life. It was horrible. I just knew how sick I was when that happened. By the last quadrant I was down to like 9000 IUs. That's how much healing that had taken place in between when I started and when I stopped. That was an unbelievable time going through all that. Then I eventually found you, and I was able to start to finish the process that I started.
Dr. Pompa:
Let’s bring some life to that process for people. One of the things that Meredith and I always say is the perfect diet, which you evolve to, won’t get you well, but you won’t get well without the perfect diet. You came in with this doing a lot of good things already, just like so many of my clients. However, the missing link was really getting upstream and doing it right. The brain phase is really what transformed your life. My goal is always to teach you the process so you don’t need me anymore. You’ve learned the process. You know exactly what to do when this happens, when that happens. Our body changes and we are always still learning.
Let’s talk about some of the dietary things first, and we can then get to the detox and how you evolved in there. You went into ketosis. How was that transition? That was something we did early on. I think you had just started doing some ketosis; you had watched some of the shows or something. Tell us about that transition.
Jessica:
It was an interesting transition. I had done—my diet has always been really important to me, so I’ve always been somebody who has leaned toward low carbohydrates. It’s always been the way I felt better. I had dabbled in the high fat diet area. It wasn’t that hard of a transition for me, but I never really knew exactly how to do it right. I did the 5-1-1.
Dr. Pompa:
For new viewers, let’s explain that. Something that I write about called diet variation, where we want to change up the diet seasonally, weekly, and this one is weekly where we do five days of a ketosis diet. Then we do a feast day where we actually purposely eat more, and even try to get more carbohydrates, healthy ones. Then we have a fast day where we fast dinner to dinner. That's what the 5-1-1 is. You started doing that.
Jessica:
Yeah, and that was a big change for me. I’ve always been a breakfast eater. I was really—even though I knew a lot about diet and everything, I was always told that we should have breakfast. I really enjoyed breakfast, but I decided okay, we’ll take it out.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s the intermittent fasting. I remember I think you had started trying to go 16 or 18 hours. I saw it in my notes, and I can’t remember now. It was probably tough for you at first.
Jessica:
It was. It was really tough for me at first. I struggled. I felt like I just watched the clock all morning and waited for when I got to eat. It got easier. I really, really enjoyed my first couple of feast day. I would always pick a Saturday to feast, Wednesdays for fast till dinner. Saturdays were feasting, and at first I really, really enjoyed them, but then after a while it kind of felt like a burden because I wasn’t all that hungry sometimes. I felt like I was always trying to pack in a little more carbs, or whatever, to make it feel like I feasted. There were times when it was hard. There were times when it wasn’t hard, too.
Dr. Pompa:
I totally agree with that.
Meredith:
I think back from when days of dieting gone past to when the idea of feasting would be so fun, but then to get to the point where your hormones are regulated you have enough fat where you’re satisfied where feasting can even be a chore. It’s funny how that can work.
Jessica:
It was a little bit hard at first, but what came of it was that when my blood showed that I was in ketosis and my blood sugar was nice and low, I felt amazing. There was this really nice payoff. The funny thing is that sometimes I would get off track, and boy I could tell when I would get off track a little bit in the very beginning when I was still trying to work it through. I think there was a time when I had—I can’t eat almonds, I still can’t eat almonds. I thought I can eat almonds now, and I introduced those back in. I wasn’t really aware that I was having so many different reactions, but one of the reactions was my blood sugar would get really, really high, and my ketosis would just go away. It was a really interesting way to figure out — it just helped me pay really good attention to what I needed.
Meredith:
Were you measuring your blood sugar and your ketones?
Jessica:
Yeah.
Meredith:
Was that daily?
Jessica:
Yeah, at first. It was daily for a while. I would do it right in the morning. I would get up fasting, and then before I would I eat, I'd usually measure again, and then before dinner. I would just try to keep tabs on where it would go. I learned a lot with those little ketone strips.
Dr. Pompa:
At first it wasn’t working. You had said the right thing. You said finally when your glucose started dropping through the day and then rising, that’s when you felt good. That’s what is supposed to happen, but at first it wasn’t happening that way. Your glucose was rising, and ketones weren't sometimes dropping, not changing. Honestly right now I'd probably have to dig deeper in my notes to figure out what we exactly did. Maybe you can remember. We kept changing things, and ultimately your body started doing the right thing. Can you remember? I don’t recall.
Jessica:
You had told me it just might take a little bit of time, and it did. It just took a little bit of time to see those results. For a while my ketones would go up, but so would my blood sugar, and I could feel that difference. I almost felt hypoglycemic. It was really strange. When it was right, when the ketones were high and the blood sugar went nice and low, I got into the 60s, and my ketones were almost 2, 3, right up in there, I felt amazing. It was a really neat experience. It taught me how to feel my way through it a little bit too. I know how it is to feel right, to have my body functioning right.
Meredith:
Dr. Pompa, ‘m curious, do you see that often, where you usually see, you know, we ideally want the blood sugar to drop, the ketones to rise, or sometimes the opposite happens with people, but is that common to see the blood sugar and ketones rise?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I see it all the time. The ketones will rise. That ‘s why Jessica would state this. She was in ketosis, and she wasn’t losing weight. Really, it’s typically because the ketones will goup, but the glucose is going up, so you’re not really getting the benefit of the ketones. One of the benefits of ketones is they start to turn off genes, but they have to be mutants. When the glucose is rising, you’re not using the ketones; most of them are flushing out in the urine. Once we see the glucose rising, then your body starts to take those ketones and then absolutely use them. It’s a phenomena that I see all the time. It does take time.
It took my wife even time. When she started in her med fasting, she wasn’t sick anymore, but it still took her time. I know thyroid people, hormone resistance in any way, it does take time, and sometimes we do have to make some adjustments where they have to not fast as long. Eventually, I'm looking at your numbers now, it started working out and some of the diet variation may have done it because the numbers from this day and this day after we started the diet variation were different.
Meredith:
A couple of months, Jessica, that seemed to take for the ketones and the glucose to start to move in the right direction?
Jessica:
To me it felt like forever, but it didn’t really take that long. It was probably between one of my visits with Dr. Pompa, I can’t remember what month that would've been in, but it felt like it happened between a month’s time, maybe four to five weeks or whatever. It didn’t take long. For all the years that I dealt with all the bad stuff, it really was a very short time for me.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, exactly, sometimes it takes longer, frankly. That's the intermittent fasting where we don't eat breakfast, like you said, and you were going 18 hours. How often do you go now? What's your spread of time?
Jessica:
I can go a long time if I want to. There are days that I'll grab lunch and then there are days that I don't eat until I get home from work, which is usually sometimes 3, 4 o'clock. It depends. I really kind of—I feel like I'm to the point where I know what my body needs.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that was my first thing.
Jessica:
I've been able to increase my workout schedule a little bit and do things that I love. I also know there are days when I might lift a little heavier or do whatever, and my body just needs a little bit more. I just feel like I'm really finally in tune where I followed a lot of good rules in the beginning and now I feel like I just know how to pay attention to what I want— or what I need instead of what I want, yeah.
Dr. Pompa:
Bingo. With that, once people enter it that, their ability to utilize fat for energy, then I say, “Okay, now trust your instincts,” and that's exactly what you're doing. In the beginning, people are always hungry, right? It's like you have to almost fight it, but now there's days where it's like I'm hungry at 1 o'clock and I eat. There's days where I go all day and go, “Holy cow! I didn't even eat. Ah, okay, It's a fasting day.” Now, when you do your 24-hour fast, dinner to dinner, your glucose drops and your ketones rise consistently.
Jessica:
Big time.
Dr. Pompa:
What was your weight loss? What weight loss have you done?
Jessica:
It's funny because my weight loss has been not huge, but I've lost just a ton of inches.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, my gosh, like right now, you look like you're fit as can be.
Jessica:
I'm not! I think the thing is is I work out—I changed the way I worked out. I was doing a lot more cardio before where I do a lot more weightlifting now and some burst training, and I keep the cardio to a minimum. That just enhanced everything else I was doing.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah.
Jessica:
That combined with the eating—I know people think I weigh a lot less than what I do. I just haven't lost a lot of weight, but I've gone down a couple sizes.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, your body's sufficiently burning fat now and as the detox continues, you'll find that your body will gravitate right into its perfect weight. You're tall, too.
Jessica:
Yeah.
Dr. Pompa:
You'll keep losing inches, but it will happen in plateaus. It will and then it'll stop for then. As the detox goes, it'll happen again. It'll happen again because ultimately, the toxins are still creating the hormone imbalance. Femicrine, Meredith, was something that helped her dramatically because of her hormone. We say we need crutches, often times, while we're getting upstream to the cause of why someone has hormone problems. There's a product called Femicrine that—I remember it made a difference in your periods. It made a difference.
Jessica:
A huge difference.
Meredith:
I love Femicrine, too. It's helped me a lot as well. That's an amazing product for any kind of hormone challenges for women and for—men can take it as well, right?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, absolutely. The thing I like about it is you give it without having to look at a whole hormone count. If you're giving actual hormones, it's best that you look at a 24-hour hormone, where Femicrine, it's safe. It brings the body into a balance. Jessica, talk a little bit about—you've done several fats, blocked fats, you could call them, a four-day fast. Talk about some of your experiences with that.
Jessica:
Fasting, in general, I think is tough in the beginning, but after a while—
Dr. Pompa:
Yes, you were afraid.
Jessica:
What's that?
Dr. Pompa:
I said you were afraid, remember?
Jessica:
Yeah, well, it's scary. After a while it just—I don't know. You just don’t think about food. You're not real hungry. I guess the only way I can explain it is that you just start using the energy you have already, something I've done just very little of, because it is kind of scary for me, but it's something I never thought I would do. It's something I'll do forever, periodically, of course.
Dr. Pompa:
Yep.
Jessica:
The energy is amazing. My skin looked great. I just felt very balanced, very centered. It's a lot of in your mind and your body.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. One thing I always say is with every fast, your body gets healthier. One of the benefits of intermittent fasting today is we're getting a lot of the benefit from a longer fast, even daily. Mer, you sat in one of my seminars where I showed study after study about just what daily fasting does, 18, 24 hours, how it raises growth hormone, and makes the cells more hormone sensitive, and optimizes hormones. The studies are there. It often takes people doing that for a few years to really change the way their hormones work with their cells, but every fast, you get healthier. Meredith, you always say your skin looks better, right, during fast? Meredith, that's the same thing.
Meredith:
It's really interesting. There's such a gut connection with our skin, so when we give our gut a break from digesting these other processes can—our body can focus on healing other areas. The skin/gut fasting connection is always really remarkable and evident for me, for sure.
Jessica:
I found sleeping better. It was amazing. After a few days, it was a piece of cake.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it's so true. People think how could I go without food, but it's amazing, the healing that occurs with fasting. Utilizing block fasts, intermittent fasts, ketosis, diet variation, like I said, you switch the exercise you were doing. There you have it, Meredith. There's a multi-therapeutic approach, right?
Meredith:
Yeah. It's all into healing, too. When you think about it, this is what our ancestors did. They didn't sit down three times a day to breakfast, lunch and dinner and snacks. They ate variably like you do, Dr. Pompa, too, where if you eat at 1 o'clock if you're hungry or 5 o'clock if you're hungry. Listening to the body and just processing ourselves to adapt has such magic. It's so powerful because it works and it's how our bodies were designed to function over the thousands of years that we've been here.
Dr. Pompa:
Here's the magic. You see, Jessica, you can tell she's educated. My goal was to teach her this stuff. She's learned it, so therefore, she has power. The power's in the knowledge. People go to doctors today. They get treated. How long's that going to last? It could be years. It's not months, years and not months of dietary changes, fasting, intermittent fasting. If we're not teaching our clients and patients these things, what good are we doing them? Again, she doesn't need me to a certain point. Now she knows.
Jessica, it's just a matter of time. Three years from now, you're going to be like this completely different person and you have the knowledge because in the power, therefore, you will continue to do it and you'll continue to transform. I did. I always say it's taken seven years to become healthy than even before I knew I was, seven years, so if we don't empower our clients and patients with the knowledge, then I feel like you're wasting people's money. That's the magic.
Talk a little bit about, Jessica, the detox because it started rough and it's gotten easier, and easier, and easier. Talk about some of those experiences.
Jessica:
I connected with you, I had already started some of the chelation process. I had mediocre results with it. It was hard. I was taking way too much of certain things, which was really making me detox too fast. By the time I found Dr. Pompa, I was actually in a really bad place. I felt like there was nothing that was going to help. It was just really, really bad.
I found Dr. Pompa. We started doing it right. We lowered it down. We took the dosages much smaller and it was rough at first. It wasn't perfect. I definitely knew when I was on-cycle versus off-cycle, but it got better. He adjusted it as we went and he said, “Okay, this is how you feel, this is how I want you to feel.” He kept adjusting it and now that I'm definitely in the green phase and working through that every time I'm on cycle.
I feel pretty amazing. Sometimes I say I even feel a little bit better when I'm on cycle, but I definitely feel amazing afterward. Every time it gets significantly better; my symptoms get better.
Dr. Pompa:
Now you had said that it takes a while to get there but you cross over where you actually do feel better on the -inaudible-. Some people, like you said, when they come off, they get symptoms. Many people watching this are going, “Yeah, that's me.”
You learn the tricks; you learn the little things to do. It's different for everybody. That's why we cope, obviously. That is different for everybody. You can't put the same doses or the same plan together. There's certain rules we don't violate, but it is going to be different for everybody. That's what you own. Jessica, you're learning that process. You know what to do when.
Meredith:
Right. Now how often are you doing brain cycles?
Jessica:
I'm doing them every seven to ten days, depending on how I feel. I always pay attention to— if I also get my period, it's not a great time for me to go on cycle. It kind of makes everything not great, so I pay attention to that and I'll push it out a little bit longer if I need to, but that's my goal, seven to ten days right now.
Dr. Pompa:
That's perfect and I love the fact that you know it could just be this day; it could be seven, could be ten. To where you're at now, I'd like people to know that I just need to get on cycle, because there's certain things. When you start it and oh my God, I feel so much better or I need some time.
Meredith:
It's such a cool thing about the process, too, and like you were saying before, both of you just tuning into your body when you're knowing with the food, with the exercise, with the fasting, and with the detoxes as well. It's really kind of getting you to know your body and what's going to work and when.
It is a process that happens over time, but the teaching process and then getting to know yourself it's just so priceless. You have that gift for the rest of your life, just being so in tune with your body and what that means.
Jessica:
It's the best thing I've ever done for myself, for sure, and my family.
Meredith:
Yep, for your health and then for those who you love and to be able to share this information with others as well, it's so empowering and Dr. Pompa, you teach people to fish. I think that that's just the coolest thing.
Dr. Pompa:
That's the goal. Jessica, God has and God gives us purposes in it. How has it changed you? Looking back, I know that I personally have never given enough because I have become the person God wants me to be. Who are you today because of it?
Jessica:
You cut out just a little bit. How is what?
Dr. Pompa:
How has your life changed because of it, meaning that who am became, I have greater purpose. I became through it where God needed me to be. How has it changed you for the better?
Jessica:
Well, first of all, I feel like I'm a much better parent. I don't feel so out of myself, so moody. I don't know if there's a better word for it. I think I'm a much better parent. I'm definitely a better wife. I have much more energy. I don't feel like I just want to stay home all the time. I feel like I—because I felt like that for a long time. That I just didn't want to go anywhere or do anything. I guess that was probably depression or feeling different. Those things have definitely changed.
I have much more energy,. I am much more purpose driven in my job, in my friendship. I feel like there's a bigger purpose for me. People ask me how I've done it. I talk about what I do, why I do it. I'm not scared to share because I'm living proof that those changes in your life are worth more than anything else. It's worth more than anything you can buy or anything like that.
I fee like this is such a gift for me, that I can just continue to share and point people in the right direction. If they listen, that's great. If they don't, I shared. I just feel like I can share now.
Dr. Pompa:
Did God teach you anything else in it? Did he teach you anything about you? Thank God I went through that, because God needed me to learn this.
Jessica:
Yep. I learned how to be patient, which is not something that is a virtue for me. I'm a very impatient person. I felt like God just kept saying, not yet, not yet, not yet. Okay, now it's time. It taught me not to give up. It taught me to be patient with myself and forgiving of myself. It gave me a whole lot more confidence in my life in the right way. God's taken a lot of teaching moments in this.
Dr. Pompa:
It's funny, but He allows things in our life because He loves us that much. He allows us to walk through things, because He needs us to learn. He needs us to learn something. Let me tell you something, I look back all the time and say, “Oh, my gosh. Thank God. Thank God He didn't answer my prayers or get me that.”
I wouldn't have tried to keep digging for the solutions. That can affect thousands of millions of other people. You'll continue, Jessica, to see what God did in it. I'm telling you, remarkable.
Jessica:
I hope so. It's definitely been for a reason.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no doubt. Listen, thank you so much. Meredith and I, we'll stay on and do closing comments. Jessica, thank you so much. When you hang up, we'll still be here. Thank you so much. I promise you this: God used you today to reach people, to give people hope. Without hope, there's no healing. I've transformed people today. Trust me. That's how we glorify Him, so thank you.
Jessica:
Thank you, guys.
Meredith:
Thank you, Jessica, so much. It's so powerful to share, to be able to be vulnerable, and to put yourself out there. We give so much hope when we share what's really in our heart and what God brings us through, because there's so many blessings that come from our burdens. Thanks for being a blessing to us today and to so many who watched.
Jessica:
Thank you both.
Dr. Pompa:
You're so welcome. You're so welcome. Meredith, we'll stay connected here.
Meredith:
What do you think? What are your closing comments with Jessica and her story and moving forward? What can our viewers learn from this?
Dr. Pompa:
You saw it, right? It's a multi-therapeutic approach, because when she— just like so many other people, she had already changed her diet. She still wasn't healthy. She was already doing detox, but she still wasn't well. What was the change?
It was doing a multi-therapeutic approach. I taught her. The intermittent fasting, the diet variation. It made a massive change, I think. Bringing her to the detox, doing it right—which she had educated herself. She was doing it better than most, but it was just she didn't understand some of the nuances that we learn over the years.
Getting her to the deeper level, but putting it all together was really magic for her. It is a multi-therapeutic approach. It's learning it; she wasn't afraid to learn it. She wasn't afraid to do everything that I told her to do. That's why she got well. That's why she is who she is today.
Meredith:
There's so much power in the multi-therapeutic approach. Always bringing it back to that and that foundation is so key. I was just talking with a man on the phone right before we got on this call and he's done so many different detoxes over the years.
Then he was talking to me about the true cellular detox program, about the cellular detox product and how it's different. I explained to him about the products and the program and why it's so special, but also just within the context of the multi-therapeutic approach that you have to do it all if you want to get major results in your health.
Yes, the detox piece is key along with diet and fasting and all these different things, but the magic is in the synergy. It's not an answer that everybody wants to hear because it's not a pill, and it's not a supplement, and it's not an easy short-term solution.
Dr. Pompa:
It's not. People learn, like you saw how she learned to check her glucose, her ketones, and see what's right. I remember Jessica was doing coffee. I stopped the coffee. I think the coffee was doing me in. Of course, looking at glucose levels, after you do these things, for a client this morning, her glucose was shooting up, majorly, after her latte. It's like, okay. It was a healthy latte, it wasn't the way she was doing it with the fat, but it wasn't doing her any good at that point.
That doesn't mean that she won't forever be able to do that. I told her to try tea, but for her at that moment it was causing her to break her intermittent fast, and she wasn't getting the results. Just like Jessica, she had some of those little things that she was doing that we had to change. It really is amazing, and it does take time. That's was the other thing that I was glad she said.
It takes time. I've done this long enough to know that some people can only intermittent fast 12, 13 hours, otherwise they start getting irritable, they get super energy low, their glucose shoots up. We have to start somewhere, but eventually, they can get to 15 hours, 16 hours, 18 hours, and it really is just about how efficient their cells become through the healing process. I believe if you're healthy, you should be able to [build out] food, and your body does the right thing.
Everyone's different. We've learned these different strategies to figure out who people are. We talk a lot about a high fat diet in ketosis, but everybody's different. Some people can't process the fat the same. Sometimes we need to move people in ketosis with higher protein, even though higher protein is not good. In that moment, they're just not going to be able to do it otherwise.
Meredith:
I'm so sorry. I've got a Google voice call coming in. Oh gosh, all right, I'm out of that. Yeah, and I agree with you so much there, too. With the trouble-shooting, this is where the coaching comes into play as well. There's so many different strategies that you've learned over the years that people may be trying a high fat diet and it's not working, so they just want to give up. With a coach who has the insight and the wisdom to direct them in using some of those strategies, and the variation technique, that's where people can really get results and not give up either when they have a coach who can really direct them in the right way.
Dr. Pompa:
That's why my passion is coaching. Doctor's train around the country, we're doing that more and more. That's the vision. You get enough doctors doing this, even for what we know right now. We're going to be able to change more lives. I know this through – not just through my pain became the purpose, but so many people on our team, right. I mean how many of them, including you, have a story of their own.
God is answering the prayers of those crying out, no doubt about it. It has to be done by educating more and more doctors, practitioners, these things that we know work, these things that we know have changed our lives, and obviously changing thousands of others. Honored in that process, I'm just always honored, just like I said, to serve Him and serving this way.
Meredith:
It's such a blessing to be brought through this pain in a lot of ways because God uses it for good. Not only does He help us heal ourselves, but then to spread this message to others just to give a message of hope, which I think has so much power in and of itself when people just have lost it all, and are so down in the trenches, and have tried everything, and have depleted their bank accounts. Their hearts are just broken from all of these challenges, but to give hope and answers, and real solutions, it's really a blessing to be a part of it.
Dr. Pompa:
I never say we have all the answers. I don't know that – I don't think anyone does. We bring experts on here to validate our points. We bring experts on here, and I always learn something myself. What we learn we put in a structure, in the structure of a multi-therapeutic approach. It really is. We're always learning – the five Rs, I always say that this is what we need to do to fix a cell to get well; however, we're always developing new tools for every one of those Rs.
I'm reading study after study right now that applies to so many of the Rs. I'm just always amazed with what He brings me. I do ask Him, trust me, or else I would be nobody. I would be nobody if it wasn't for what He gives me, that's for sure. I'm just a nobody trying to bring information, that's it, from Him, answer to your prayers, hopefully. Meredith, you help me do that, so thank you as well.
Meredith:
We're all just humble servants, and we're blessed to be on this mission. It's a blessing, and I am so blessed by you. I know this show, this information, is just a blessing to a lot of people out there. We're just excited to serve, and excited for all of you who are listening, and hope that you get a lot out of this, and can help and spread this message with us. It takes an army, for sure.
Dr. Pompa:
That's true. What's our next show? Launch us off that way.
Meredith:
When is it, or what is it?
Dr. Pompa:
What is our next show, do you know?
Meredith:
On the schedule, if things go as planned, which sometimes things come up, but on my next show is actually going to be on parasite protocols with Dr. Todd Watts, one of the doctors coaches. He is an expert in parasite removal. We're going to delve very deeply into that specific topic that we've broached on Cellular Healing TV in the past, but haven't delved in too deeply on that. That's going to be a really fun topic.
Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely because I had parasites when I was sick. The immune system gets down, and then we harvest these infections, right. Infections, it's an upstream source, so can't wait for that show. Thank you.
Meredith:
Awesome, well thanks for everything, Dr. Pompa. Jessica, you were amazing on the show today. Thanks for sharing your story. Everyone, thanks for watching. We love you. Hope you have a wonderful weekend. We'll see you next week.
Dr. Pompa:
Yep, thanks.
