Transcript of Episode 142: Triumph Over Anxiety and Chemical Sensitivity
With Dr. Daniel Pompa, Meredith Dykstra, and Derek Lynham
Meredith:
Hello, everyone, and welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I'm your host, Meredith Dykstra, and this is Episode 142. We've got Dr. Pompa on the line, and today we have a special guest, Derek Flynham. He's going to be sharing his very own testimonial of how he has worked through his healing journey using a lot of Dr. Pompa's tools, and tricks, and strategies for cellular health.
Before we jump in, let me tell you a little bit more about Derek. Derek lives just north of Toronto in Canada. He's currently working as a cemetery laborer and is in the process of trying to take the right steps for his health. In April 2016, he proposed to his girlfriend, Evelyn, and she said yes. They're planning to get married in February 2017, and he's so thankful that the Lord Jesus has blessed him with Evelyn. Derek is striving to be a man that God has commanded him to be.
Amazed at God's faithfulness through his health journey, Derek believes that God put a determination in him to keep pushing forward. He also believes that God is calling Derek to do all he can do and to leave the rest to Him. He's so thankful for his parents for not giving up on him, and also for all the people that the Lord has put into his life to help him. Beautiful testimonial, thanks so much for—testimonial, bio here, kind of introduction. Thanks for joining Cellular Healing TV, Derek. We're just so grateful to have you here and for you to share your story.
Derek:
Yeah, thanks so much, Meredith and Dr. Pompa. It's an honor to be here. Last time I spoke with Dr. Pompa, it was August 15, 2013. The Lord has brought me far. Firstly, I want to give glory and praise to God. He has been my sustainer, He has been my strength, He has been rock through this time. He's allowed me to go through so much pain, and He continues to give me strength to keep going. I want to give all the praise in the world to Him. He deserves the glory.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I said here before we even got on the show that I believe it's our responsibility, I do, to share our testimony and story. When we read the testimonies, even back in biblical times, and the stories that Jesus taught, that's where we learn, isn't it? He taught in stories, and it was those stories that change lives. It's our stories that change lives, more so than the facts, more so than the science, more so than anything. We hear stories like yours that really keep people with hope. Once somebody, Derek, loses hope, the fight's over. Death is sure to follow. Your story I know today, will give so many people hope, so thank you so much for coming on.
You said in that little opening piece there, something that God is still teaching me, is complete reliance on Him. We strive; we catch ourselves striving. It's often times when we just let go and let Him that the answers come, and He works through people. He works through circumstances, but ultimately He's working to bring us through our pain, our journey, our valleys to ultimately give us a greater purpose. That's my story, and that's your story. I couldn't have said that better myself.
I remember the conversation, I really do, back in 2013, because I sensed your heart. I did. At that time, I don't have the opportunity to work with everybody, right? It was not a good time for me, and I think it was—there was just a lot of different circumstances. I remember saying, “There is a gal out your way in Santa Barbara, Kristen [Rotblatt]. You have to talk to her.” Through my wife, I remember her setting up that meeting, and I just knew you two were a match made in heaven. Take us back. Start us back there, and even before that, how did you end up there? I remember your life had fallen apart, so bring us back to before that and that call.
Derek:
I'm going to go just a bit before that. I gave my life to the Lord about seven years ago. Shortly after coming to know the Lord, I did a discipleship program in Lafayette, Louisiana. The program was nine months, and it was amazing. God taught me so much stuff. He taught me practically, through the program, how to live out the Christian life. After I came back from Louisiana, back to Canada, I think it was about a year or two later, I began to have—began to get symptoms that were not the average symptoms. They started with not—different symptoms included not being able to sleep, anxiety, depression, pain through my body. I'd wake up in the morning and my body would be in so much pain. It's like, now, I have to start my day. It's almost like around this time after doing this Christian program, God was saying to me, “Derek, remember all the different things that I taught you in the program. Are you ready to apply them?” That began my journey of trying to figure out what the heck was happening with me. I began to go—I guess the normal person would begin to go to your doctor; then the doctor would send you to different physicians. I had blood work done, all kinds of different types of tasks. I had two MRIs done, and I think x-rays. Everything came back as negative.
Meredith:
What were your symptoms at this point?
Derek:
My symptoms at this point were—I think it was through the time, it's been anxiety, depression, not being able to sleep properly, pain at different parts of my body. I guess everyone can experience these symptoms.
Dr. Pompa:
That's debilitating. That's where I started too, Derek. I remember exactly just not feeling myself, the anxiety, the insomnia, the lack of energy. That's where I started, and it all trickled down from there.
Derek:
Everyone can go through these symptoms, but the thing with me and many other people, it's chronic. It just continues, and you're wiped out through the day, and your anxiety is sky high. These symptoms—I think God put in me a determination to keep going, and to keep fighting, and to keep pushing through to figure out what's exactly happening with me. One of my big issues was work. We all have to work. I'll be 30 in about a year and a half, two years. At this point, everyone has to work. That was a massive issue for me, working. I started and stopped over 15 jobs at this time.
Through this time also, God gave me great favor of working with different Christian employers who were so nice to me while I was experiencing this symptoms, which I'm so thankful for. Even though there were jobs that were a lot shorter, a handful of the jobs were longer, which I'm so thankful for. I was sharing with Meredith some of the verses that God spoke to me through this time, so I'll just share it again.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, please.
Derek:
Galatians 6:9, it says, “And let us not grow weary of doing good, for a new season we'll reap if we do not give up.” Romans, Chapter 4, Verse 20 to 21, it says, “No unbelief made him waver concerning the promise of God, but he grew strong in his faith as he gave glory to God fully convinced that God was able to do all that He had promised.” Another one is Joel, Chapter 2, Versus 25, “I will restore to you the years that the swarming locusts has eaten, the hopper, the destroyer, and the cutter, my great army which I sent among you.” These verses I've tried to, especially the first two, I've tried to cling to.
Dr. Pompa:
I had verses God gave me too that I still go back to today as a remembrance of God's promises, showing me that He was in it the whole time. I still go back to the same verses. Like you, I hung onto those promises. That's awesome. Let me ask you something. We had—things, life got very difficult for you. You were very sick. Obviously life, like myself, became unfunctional. I spoke to you that day. Where was your hope at that point? What was your process? Where were you that day I spoke to you in 2013?
Derek:
I guess one thing that I find you have to be very careful with—and I’ve always tried—I’ve always put continuous hope in trying to figure out the next thing; once I take the supplement, then things will get better. I think my hope needs to be in the Lord, firstly. I guess, roughly, at that time my hope was in finding a solution to what’s going on with my situation.
Dr Pompa:
Right, yeah. Then I put you in touch with Kristen Rotblatt, an amazing practitioner in Santa Barbara. What was some of the first steps? Kristen, she has been training with me a long time. She’s very knowledgeable. What were some of the first steps? Tell us that evolution of when things actually started getting better.
Derek:
Like with your multi-therapeutic approach, I found just doing one thing or even a couple things, it doesn’t bring -inaudible- down done enough. It’s truly when many things are implemented. Yeah, so Kristen, I love her. I’m so thankful -inaudible- her into my life. She’s an amazing woman.
Dr Pompa:
I love her too.
Derek:
She took me through a heavy metal test. My heavy metal—she said something like, Derek, your heavy metal is the least I’ve ever seen. My heavy metals are very low in my body. I’ve also done a 23andMe test so it seems like different bad genes—I don’t know exactly if, maybe, some bad genes turn on in my body when roughly the symptoms began. I don’t know exactly how that’s happened, but it seems like there are bad genes that are difficult to turn off in my body, that have turned on. She did the 23andMe test and she—I began taking, I think at that time, it was the Mores, the Energy, and the Bind, roughly at that time.
Yes, I’ve also—another big thing in the multi-therapeutic approach is diet. My chiropractor in Aurora, Dr. Crag, he’s a Christian chiropractor, and he’s been so great. He also teaches a cellular healing diet, which is really cool how that connection and his view, which was really cool. He’s been a big help in trying to—throughout the diet. It’s been very important. Go ahead.
Dr Pompa:
I was just going to say, you said something interesting. Your heavy metals, they weren’t—they didn’t come out on the test, did they?
Derek:
No.
Dr Pompa:
Right, that’s always a problem because, again, we expect to see normal ranges of certain metals. When we see just barely anything show up, we go, uh-oh, this is somebody who’s detox pathways are severely compromised. How did you feel when you took that test?
Derek:
I think after, once I took it, pretty discouraged because I was thinking maybe the problem was heavy metals.
Dr Pompa:
Because of that, I’m sure she focused on opening up some of these pathways. Obviously, you said you were on a lot of the cellulars, opening up the cellular pathways. How did your detox progress? How did you feel during the on-cycles, off-cycles? How did that look?
Derek:
One other big puzzle piece for me was electric—my body, it seems to be electrically sensitive. One thing that I realized was in the morning, I would wake up and my body would just be in so much pain. Where my bed is on the second floor, on the first floor, the wifi router is on top of the fridge, which was underneath my bed, maybe like four feet underneath my bed. It’s been another big puzzle piece with radio frequency, and electromagnetic fields, and trying to bring that down, and trying to figure out different solutions, how to do that. Yeah, that’s been another big thing that I have really felt to bring down inflammation.
Dr Pompa:
We’re going to do a show on that because I had a problem here in this office. That wall over there is where the electric comes in, and I was sitting with my back probably about four feet from where the whole hardwire of the home comes in. I was getting headaches at the end of every day. I figured it out and moved my desk over here.
I’m going to talk about this. I’m going to show how the level was so high there. It absorbs a lot of the EMF coming in. Plus, I moved my distance and solved my problem. It’s a big deal, especially when you’re already toxic and you already have a lot of other things driving oxidated stress.
That one more thing can be the thing that tips our bucket over. These electromagnetic frequencies absolutely can send that bucket over. Now, of course, I can tolerate higher levels of that, just like any other stressor. When I was sick, emotional, chemical, I mean, my bucket was so full, any stressor would send me over the edge. We have so many people who can’t handle the frequencies that are around them because their buckets are so full.
The detox, how did that go for you?
Derek:
I don't know if I really felt too much of a difference because my bucket was still so overflowing.
Dr. Pompa:
When did you start noticing a difference? Obviously if we keep emptying the bucket at the cellular level, eventually we start to feel better. When did that occur?
Derek:
I guess it's been different steps, trying to take grains out of my diet, and being careful about how much protein I take. I'd say different things I've implemented, the symptoms are going down. Also taking the [CBD] oil. It feels like my digestive system is able to digest better.
Dr. Pompa:
How long in the process? When did that start occurring? Was it six months, a year? It's a multi-therapy approach. You made all these changes, but when did you start feeling the difference, and what did that look like?
Derek:
As I was starting the diet, the symptoms coming down, being careful with laundry detergent, fragrances, and feeling different reactions. I would say many times as things were continuously implemented through the last five years, each thing feeling the symptoms going down a little bit. I don't know if that answers the question.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it sounds like you don't remember. I recall in my own journey, I vividly remember different things. When I started detox, it was rough. It evolved into where it was the things that I needed to feel better. I knew I had to start a cycle. With each cycle I would start, it would be like whoa! It cleared my mind. It became a learning pattern to know when to go off, when to go on it. If I stayed off too long, things would build up, and I would start developing symptoms.
When I would start cycles, it would clear me again. Things came out at different levels. It really was. I remember it was the brain phase that ultimately gave me my life back. It took years. One of the things I would say is it's years, not months. You don't get rid of these things at the deep cellular level in months. That's why it's our job to really not be a physician, but to be a coach. You don't need treated, you need taught. You have to learn that process because the body just lets go of things randomly. Anyways, go ahead, Meredith. You had a question.
Meredith:
Yeah, just getting a little more specific with a few things as far as diet. Derek, what did you do in the beginning, and what are you doing now? How has that evolved?
Derek:
One thing that works, since I'm working full time right now; where I work, it's by a cell phone tower. I've realized that I can't put tons of food into my body when I'm at work. A lot of times I'll have just a scoop of protein and a couple tablespoons of a good fat. It seems to have the least reaction while I'm at work. I notice when I eat too much food, I don't know if it's the cell phone tower or what it is, but my body seems to not be able to digest tons of food while I'm at work. I have a smaller meal while I'm at work. Then at home I'll try to have a bigger meal.
Dr. Pompa:
That's intermittent fasting. That's exactly the case for most people. Once we train your body to be able to utilize fat for its energy source, that can take some time. Going without food even for me now is healthy. When I have my busiest days where I need my brain the most, I don't eat.
The ketones that build up during that fast really make us fire and be able to have that constant energy, constant brain power that we need to function. I did that yesterday. I just fasted all day. I had such a busy day. I had a lecture to give at night, went into the lecture still in a fasting mode. That's where I perform the best.
I think that's human, but when you're challenged, that's one of the things we coach, how to do that. It's different for everybody. Some people say if I went that long without food, I would collapse. That's true. However, we have to train your mitochondria to be able to do that. Once that's the case, now your energy is going towards function as opposed to digesting foods. Not to mention, most people have leaky gut. Every time they eat, they're driving antibody reactions and inflammation, and they don't feel well.
Resting the gut is part of the healing. These ancient healing strategies are what we use, the big leverage to fix the gut and also the cell, what it's doing. What you're saying is something that people experience, and we have to teach them that process.
Meredith:
Derek, have you done any longer fasts in your journey?
Derek:
I haven't. It seems like my body can't take it right now. I've attempted to, but right now I don't think I can.
Dr. Pompa:
Can you go 24 hours fasting? Do you have energy throughout that period?
Derek:
I think I can. Normally I just do the intermittent fasting in the morning. I think I could do the 24 hours, which I haven't done too much in the past.
Dr. Pompa:
Mix it up. I would do some days with that variation. Just giving a lecture last night when we talk about what happens in a 24-hour fast, the growth hormones rise. The state that the body goes in is very amazing. I would say we're only really imitating what our ancestors were forced to do. Healing occurs.
We notice that if people can't go longer periods of fasting, then doing even those one day a week, doing a 24-hour fast. It's remarkable what the body does. Let me ask you this for our viewers sake. What happens when you try to go longer fast, and what have you felt like? Have you tried to go two days, three days? Take us to what's happening.
Derek:
I think when I try to in the past, the symptoms increase. I don't know if it's more a mind thing. I don't know if it's just because I have to force myself, but it's almost like my body feels like it just can't do it.
Dr. Pompa:
The reason I ask the question is right there. I think I would push you through because remarkable things happen day three. I think because you've been daily intermittent fasting, you can do it. It is a mental thing. The body crosses over. Every one of us are designed by our creator to fast.
When you look at the Huns people, they were forced to fast every spring. It was known as starvation spring, which is really the reason why they lived so long and healthy. It was the fasting state that they did once a year. I believe that we were created to do it, and I believe amazing things happen in that. I always say with each fast you can get healthier and healthier. It forces your cells to do things that they're not able to do on its own.
Thomas Seyfried wrote a book, Cancer As a Metabolic Disease, where they're taking cancer patients and putting them into fasts. Believe me when I tell you, the bottom falls out for three days. Believe me when I tell you, miracles happen on the backside. It's interesting. I think for one of your next levels of healing, you have to trust that innate intelligence. Your body will do some amazing things. For starters, add one 24-hour fast day in a week. Kristin can coach you through that, there's no doubt.
I guess the other thing too is what were some things that were game changers for you along the way? Maybe it was product, maybe it was some other dietary things. Intermittent fasting was obviously one of them. What were some others?
Derek:
Exercise has been a big thing. I don't know if you have it in the States, but we have CrossFit. Do you guys have that?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. Were you able to exercise in the beginning? I couldn't exercise for years. I didn't have the cellular energy.
Derek:
Yeah, I could exercise, which was great. CrossFit has been a great thing. Exercising and recently trying to change my variation in exercise has been good. Also, trying to figure out grains has been a big thing, trying to not have too much protein, trying to increase my healthy fat has been a good thing. EMF protection has been a really good thing. Also, transforming my mind has been an amazing thing.
I've had so many people encourage me to continue to keep going. I'm so thankful for all the Christians God has brought into my life to continue to keep going. Also, my parents have been so amazing. I heard it's as difficult as the person going through it, the person who's close to you.
Dr. Pompa:
There's no doubt about that. What has happened to your mindset, your process? I was a different person on the other side. How are you different with your mindset now?
Derek:
I kind of mentioned before, God has just continued to help me push forward. Really going through difficult times, you do get stronger. It's been so hard to continue to push forward. I would definitely say stronger spiritually.
Meredith:
I would love to add to speaking of the challenges of the health journey. Derek, you emailed me this morning with some hesitation about even doing the show because you said the past few weeks you've been really off track with your diet, with your health in a lot of ways. You were wondering if you should even follow through with the show. I said yes, of course because we need to be vulnerable and honest and share our challenges and how we're working through them because we're human. If you could speak a little bit about that and the past few weeks what got you off track and what you're doing moving forward to get back on track.
Derek:
I almost felt like a bit of a hypocrite coming on this show. I haven't been eating that great for the last two or three weeks. I find when I'm out and about, I'm not in my normal routine. It's easy to eat sugar and bread. I've been trying to get back into a routine.
Dr. Pompa:
When I heard you say that, I immediately went back and thought to myself, what threw me off track at times. Especially as I got my life back, it was actually the stretches of feeling normal again where I just wanted to feel normal again from an emotional standpoint. When my health increased, I just wanted to do what other people apparently or seemingly get away with. I wanted just to be normal and do things that I thought I used to be able to do. You know what? Every time I regretted it. Eventually I learned the lesson.
There's something emotionally invested that just wants to do what the people around us are able to do. I see everybody go through that process. Again, I think we all have to learn. We are called to be different. It's good to be different. There's no pleasure in where we thought we had pleasure before. It's completely normal. Some people obviously can get stuck there, but they'll regret it and they come back. Keep those moments very short and learn from them is my advice.
Meredith:
Very true, Dr. Pompa. I'd like to share and relate. I was on vacation last week with friends. We were at a big family dinner, and we were ordering some food. I was asking which cooking oils they were using for the brussel sprouts, and a lot of comments and jeers from friends and family in a loving way. Also a reminder of yes, I'm different, but I'm choosing this for myself as a three percenter.
As you say, Dr. Pompa, we are called to be different. It's okay to be different. It's a struggle as well. I get it, and I'm human sometimes too. I don't always eat foods that are cooked in healthy oils at restaurants. You experience the consequences when your body is cleaner. It's just a reminder that we are called to be different, and it's okay to be different and to own it, and not be apologetic for being different.
Dr. Pompa:
No doubt. I can go out and eat a pizza, and I can feel completely normal the next day. That wasn't the case in the past. I don't choose that anymore. Your knowledge base, you start to just learn every once in a while I'm healthy enough to deal with it. The pleasures change. I can choose healthier things that are just as pleasurable. Point being, there is hope. You can do those things without the consequences, but to continue doing them is the danger.
Meredith:
I have a question just to counter that. What do you think of the school of thought where we should expose our bodies periodically to toxins to boost our immune system to make us stronger? Occasionally we should eat unhealthier foods, maybe not super unhealthy, but foods that aren't as healthy as we typically would choose to test our immune system to make us stronger.
Dr. Pompa:
I don't know. I think it's like a little bit of cyanide makes us stronger. I don't think so. I think exposing ourselves to different bacteria is an amazing thing, even bad bacteria, different viruses. It's an amazing thing. No doubt people that work in daycare end up stronger. Kids that are exposed to more viruses are stronger. Kids that live on farms and they're exposed to animals are stronger.
From a microbio standpoint, I think there's truth to it. I think that just exposing ourselves to toxins, we're exposed everyday anyway unknowingly. It's not like we have to go out of our way. I don't know if it holds up the saying with a toxin like mercury. I don't know that it makes us stronger. Our detox pathways are getting plenty of exercise just on a daily basis. I think we need to be more cautious on the side of let's avoid as many of these toxins as we can.
The point is taken though, that we become this hygiene phobic society, running from every bacteria, trying to kill every darn thing when it's really not the answer. You can't avoid parasites. You can't avoid bacteria and viruses, and exposure to them really doesn't make us that much stronger. I agree to that point. Derek, if there's anything else you want to share, I would appreciate you coming on. Meredith and I are going to stay on just for some commentary. We appreciate you sharing your story.
Meredith:
Thank so much, Derek. Is there anything you want to say to our viewers to inspire them?
Derek:
I would say just keep pushing. If you're in the middle of chronic symptoms, just to keep pushing forward. Take the right steps. It's easy just to spin your wheels. A great quote is it's easier to steer a ship when it's moving. It's been something that's helped me. Also, another great quote is how do you get through a mine field? The answer is through the steps of someone who's already been through it.
Dr. Pompa:
That's true, Derek. We can depend on God, and we can say we have complete reliance on Him; however, He works with those who are moving. He can steer you when you start moving. A multi-therapeutic approach saved your life, but you moved. You did what Kristin taught you. You took the steps. I know you're a big fan of Cellular Healing TV. You watch every episode. I don't know about every episode, but many from what I've been told. We do appreciate that, and we do appreciate your testimony.
I do have one question. I don't know if Kristin re-measured your heavy metals lately, but I bet your metals would be a lot higher in a good sense, meaning your body is now getting rid of them. I don't know when the last retest on metals was, but that encourages you to keep detoxing. That's ultimately what's going to keep giving your life back. It's the people who go hey, I feel a lot better. Then they stop the very thing that's the most important. That's multiple brain phases. Get a retest, see what's coming out now. I bet your detox pathways are now working.
Derek:
Yeah, thanks so much, guys. I'm so thankful to be on this show.
Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely. Okay. Thanks, Derek.
Derek:
God bless.
Meredith:
Derek, thanks for sharing.
Dr. Pompa:
It's just another lesson and the fact that we have to empty our lives of the stressors. Obviously that's sometimes easier said than done, whether it's emotionally, physically, and chemically. When we do that and we detox upstream at the cellular level utilizing these other ancient healing strategies, that's all part of a multi-therapeutic approach. Passionately teaching other doctors to do it, this is the answer to the epidemic.
Meredith:
It's so powerful. These stories remind us that when you take action and implement every step, that you do get results. It's not overnight. As a reminder of Derek's story, he said four or five years ago he started with these symptoms. It's been a long haul. Staying the course, not giving up, and hearing stories like this can remind you of yours, to not give up. Stay focused, start with the end in mind, and you will start to see results over time, but be patient. God's timing isn't our timing either.
Dr. Pompa:
I remember speaking to Derek. I knew that he was going to be one who would get well. There's something that people radiate. You know this. I interview everybody before I would ever consider taking them on. There's a couple things I'm looking for. Number one, have they identified too much with their illness? They're stuck there. It becomes their identity. That's a danger. I don't believe even with the perfect protocol those people will be helped. They need to get some emotional counseling first.
Then there's that person who just wants that single thing. They're looking for that simple thing, and they're really not wanting to be taught a process. They don't see it as something they need to learn, partake in their own rescue. I don't believe I can help them or any doctor can help them. When you get to this chronic illness state, it's not a treatment. You don't need to be treated. You need to be taught a process of cellular healing. You need to be taught a process of these ancient healing strategies and multi-therapeutic approaches. Some people aren't open to that.
In a short interview I can really tell is this person really going to do what it takes? It is years, not months. I think that's where even alternative doctors are going wrong today. People are going for treatments. They're not interested in teaching somebody. You need a coach, not a physician. You really do. You need a coach once you get chronically sick. You have to be willing to participate.
I knew Derek was that person. I knew that he was going to do anything he was told to do. I knew that he had hope. You could just see he had hope. He could see. I resonated with his faith. That should encourage people that it is mindset that leads to your wellness, and there is something that these amazing stories give off, their determination, their ability to learn, their desire to learn. I hope that helps somebody.
Meredith:
I think being on the other end like you said, it's so important to be open and to be teachable and coachable as well. I remember one of my earlier health coaching clients came into the office and just laid down her paperwork and had her arms folded, basically in her mind coming to me and saying what do you have to say to me that's going to be different than anyone has told me before. I pretty much know everything. I feel like I've tried everything. Good luck trying to teach me anything different.
Even though she didn't say that in her words, I felt that. I knew that this woman wasn't going to get the results. It wasn't going to be the right thing because she came in with a preconceived notion that she had tried everything, nothing was working, and had just kind of shut down and wasn't open to being teachable and coachable. I think as a client on the other end, that is so important is being open to trying things you've never tried before and being patient. The results definitely are long term.
Dr. Pompa:
Our society teaches that we're looking for that one thing. Everyone's looking for that one thing. It's never about one thing. Therefore, the expectation is really not met. They're going to that doctor for that one treatment that's going to solve their problem. If that's where you're still at, you've got to change that thinking. It is absolutely learning in multi-therapeutic approach that every little nuance, and it's different for everybody.
Even the dosing through detox, it's a process of learning. You need a coach. My passion is training more coaches to do these things. We're seeing results that I know nobody's seeing. It is completely different. One of the things that is so different is we expect people to learn this process. There's no doubt about it.
Meredith:
You're teaching the doctors just like you teach the clients. It's customized, and it's not a cookie-cutter protocol, as many people want. There are guidelines and general protocol that you offer, but every approach has to be customized because of the bio individuality. We're all so different. We have a different toxin load, different genetic factors, and ancestry. There's so many different variables that there's just not one simple answer.
Dr. Pompa:
Exactly. We're going to end on this, Meredith. You were at one of my favorite places on the planet, Jackson Hole, Wyoming. You saw the plains. I'm sure you saw the buffalo in Yellowstone. What did you think?
Meredith:
Oh, my gosh. It was such a blessing to be there in God's creation. It was spectacular; the Tetons, Yellowstone, lots of bison, and lots of time with family and friends. I was just reminded of all the beauty in this world. If you're watching this and you're down about your health or different challenges in your life, there's always beauty to be found everyday regardless of where you are. Whether you're in Yellowstone or New York City, there's beauty everywhere. Focusing on the positive and the good things that are happening, what's going well in your health and in your life can be a stepping stone to opening your mind to possibility.
Dr. Pompa:
I'll tell you what, when you get out in those mountains, and I have that ability here. It's like when you get to the shore and the negative ions are just pouring out of the water, people regain their health like that. A good friend of ours, Jordan Rubin, that was what he did. He moved to the shore. Many people do that. It's the same with the mountains. There's something about the trees, the oxygen, the negative ions, the woods in those mountains give off that bring health. Step out.
I've got to ask this question too. Did you have time, and the answer may be no because I know you had your family, to go to one of my favorite little restaurants on the planet, the Lotus Cafe? Did you go to the Lotus Cafe in Jackson?
Meredith:
Of course I did, Dr. Pompa, per your advice. We went into the Wort as well, the beautiful hotel with the silver dollar bar. It was a really cool spot. The Lotus Cafe, if you're ever in Jackson Hole, Wyoming, stop in there. They have fabulous grass fed local meats and gluten free options, Paleo options. It's amazing. I got the bison gravy over gluten-free biscuits. It was my diet variation treat. We had one of the Thai bowls, and just some really good drinks. It was amazing. Stop in there if you're in Jackson Hole for sure.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, the Lotus Cafe. We always have people when I'm there, they see me and go oh, you're Dr. Pompa. They watch Cellular Healing TV. We've got viewers everywhere.
Meredith:
-inaudible- be an ambassador for them or something.
Dr. Pompa:
No doubt about it. Hello to everyone at the Lotus Cafe. We have friends there. We have a lot of reach now. I was at the gym this week, and a gal came up to me and said you're Dr. Pompa. She watches every Cellular Healing TV show. She's a little strong athlete. She had all types of great questions on intermittent fasting for athletes. We may want to do a show just on that and even bring a guest on for that. I think that would be a great show because she was a fitness expert, body builder. She had the physique, but she was entering into that world. She had a lot of great questions. I thought to myself there's another great show. Thanks, Meredith. Thanks for sharing your Yellowstone Jackson Hole journey. I love it there.
Meredith:
Thanks as always, Dr. Pompa, for sharing your knowledge and inspiring all those who are watching. Thanks, you guys, for tuning in. Thanks, Derek, for sharing your testimonial. We're signing off. Have a wonderful weekend, and we'll catch you next week.
