Transcript of Episode 153: Staying Healthy in College and Beyond
With Dr. Daniel Pompa, Meredith Dykstra, and Olivia Pompa
Meredith:
Hello, everyone. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I'm your host, Meredith Dykstra, and this is Episode 153. We have our resident cellular healing specialist, Dr. Dan Pompa, on the line. Today we have a very special guest, his daughter, Olivia Pompa. We are so excited to have you on the show, Olivia. You've had a few appearances on Cell TV, but this is your first solo interview.
Olivia:
I'm kind of excited.
Dr. Pompa:
Awesome.
Meredith:
It's all about you today.
Dr. Pompa:
She just came off the ski slopes.
Olivia:
My hair looks so bad.
Dr. Pompa:
I dragged her here to do an interview. Of course, she hates me right now, but so be it.
Olivia:
I hurt myself too. I'm icing my knee right now.
Dr. Pompa:
We literally had two feet of powder.
Olivia:
I hiked to the top, a 20-minute hike to the top and skied down. That's when I hurt myself.
Dr. Pompa:
Let me ask you a question. Meredith is going to do most of the interviewing. Did you eat food before all this hiking and all that stuff?
Olivia:
No.
Dr. Pompa:
Hasn't eaten food yet today.
Olivia:
All I've had is a cup of coffee with a little bit of cream. That's it.
Dr. Pompa:
She did all that skiing and hiking because she's a fat adapted athlete. That's cool. Anyway, Meredith, that's a little promo to the fact that my kids do what we do.
Meredith:
That is true. You guys walk the talk. I know that fat adaptation did not occur over night. I know you're behind this and I know with all of us who have transitioned over into being fat adapted, that it takes some time. There is a story behind all of this, and I know you have an amazing personal story. Let's take it way back.
I'd like for you to share a little bit about your health journey and how things started. You have a twin brother, Dylan, who has been on the show as well. You guys have a really interesting story with your health. Why don't you take it back and share when you first started to notice symptoms and how it progressed.
Olivia:
When I was little, I definitely watched Dylan experience a lot of health problems at a really young age. I didn't, and he can explain that more with testosterone. How do I explain that?
Dr. Pompa:
Dylan with each vaccine got worse. Males, their testosterone has more of an exaggerated effect on the toxins in vaccinations, especially mercury. Girls, their estrogen has a protective effect. You have one that's causing more exaggerated effects, and the other protecting. That's why, by the way, you have boys on the autism spectrum four or five to one versus girls.
Olivia:
It was kind of difficult when I was little always watching him experience these health issues. Thankfully he got his health back slowly, but surely. Then as I started to enter into puberty, I started experiencing a lot of health issues. I started becoming allergic to things I hadn't been allergic to before. I started gaining a lot of weight. My number one thing that actually really made me driven to bring my health back was my skin. I had terrible acne.
Dr. Pompa:
Typical teenager. It was the skin that did it.
Olivia:
It affected me as a person just because I was not as confident in school. One day my dad said to me you need to take grain and sugar out of your diet, so I did. It took me a minute to really adjust, seeing all my brothers always eating grain. It was kind of hard, but I've actually been grainless ever since. My skin was perfect the moment I took grain and sugar out of my diet.
Dr. Pompa:
They were raised on a certain diet. We adopted Dylan and Olivia at age seven. Their parents tragically died. They were raised on a certain diet that was a standard American diet. Then they came to us and we were so mean that we put them on the diet that they were raised on.
Olivia:
I guess that's kind of a cool thing to talk about too. When we first were taken in, we would get in trouble for chewing unhealthy gum. I would hide my candy from school. I just didn't understand. It didn't click why I couldn't eat a bag of Doritos from school.
Dr. Pompa:
Everyone else did.
Olivia:
Yeah, everyone else did. Why couldn't I do it? Obviously I'm thankful now. I understand, but going from that adjustment to all of a sudden never eating Halloween candy. That was kind of hard, especially to take grain and sugar out of my diet on top of that.
Dr. Pompa:
When they're a certain age, we control their diet in the house. Of course, they went to school and did certain things, but you guys ratted each other out. The other kids would be like Olivia had something. I saw. Pretty much they grew up from age seven on. When they were old enough, we let them make their own decisions. I have to say 100% of them started eating maybe not as bad as the standard American diet, but you definitely opened your eating up to other foods, and they all paid the price.
Olivia:
I did. I gained a lot of weight. My skin was horrible, and that's when I finally took grain and sugar out of my diet. My skin cleared up, and I finally got it. Diet is key. You have to fix your diet. I did, and I've literally been grainless ever since. I started grainless, but then I started watching them do ketosis two summers ago. I thought I'll do it. Oh, my gosh. I had the most incredible experience with ketosis. I had so much energy every day.
Dr. Pompa:
When did you start intermittent fasting?
Olivia:
Same time.
Dr. Pompa:
About two years ago.
Olivia:
It was a lot easier for me to get into ketosis with intermittent fasting. I even got my ex-boyfriend doing it. I got everyone doing it. All my friends had incredible energy and were able to work out longer. It was awesome.
Dr. Pompa:
You said something just yesterday. Intermittent fasting, there's days where you just eat one meal a day like I do. It's so easy to be in ketosis. You can eat carbs with dinner. You said you eat your squash, more healthy carbs, and it makes it that much easier. Intermittent fasting, even if you're eating just two meals a day, it makes it so easy to be in ketosis. No doubt about it.
Olivia:
Two summers ago I had done ketosis, and I did it for six months. I had incredible results. I looked incredible. I felt incredible. I was detoxing at the same time. I had more energy while I was detoxing. I went to Europe. I studied abroad for the entire year in Europe. While I was there, I couldn't do ketosis. I couldn't not eat the gelato and pizza. For a year I actually didn't do ketosis. I was eating grain all the time. Granted the grain is healthier over there, but I gained a lot of weight back.
When I got back from Europe, I got back into ketosis. I've actually lost almost all the weight that I gained. I feel great. I've been doing intermittent fasting. Two summers ago I would fast until 2:00 during the day. Now I'm fasting until 5:00 every day. My body is already well-adapted, more efficient. It's awesome. It's incredible. I have incredible energy. I'm going to the gym every day. I'm lifting way more than I was two years ago. It's really cool to see my body adapt again.
Dr. Pompa:
All my children are just living lab rats -inaudible-. We send them off to Europe and fatten them up. We bring them back home and see what happens. If I went to Europe, I'd be eating pasta myself if I went there for two months. It is better pasta. It's a remarkable difference in the pasta there and the pasta here.
Olivia:
I did notice a difference.
Dr. Pompa:
You did?
Olivia:
Oh, yeah. I remember I would go there and have a plate of pasta. After doing ketosis for so long, eating such a grainless diet, every time at home that I would eat grain once, I would get bloated and feel sick. In Europe I could eat it every day. I could eat it twice a day and be fine. Just another point of how screwed up our food is here in America. Everyone should go grainless because the food is just so unhealthy over here.
Dr. Pompa:
Sprayed with glyphosate.
Olivia:
That was something that Europe taught me too. It was definitely not great over here.
Dr. Pompa:
I know where you want to go. I'm going to let you do it. Just for fun, guess what this is? This is Ketonix Breath Meter.
Meredith:
Oh, you got one of those.
Dr. Pompa:
What you do is you go —
Meredith:
Did [Deana] bring that to you?
Dr. Pompa:
Just for 20 seconds. It'll show ketosis.
Olivia:
I'm not on ketosis right now.
Dr. Pompa:
If it thinks you are, it'll blow. Watch.
Olivia:
I'm not. I had corn yesterday.
Dr. Pompa:
It doesn't matter. She doesn't understand. Watch. No, you go like this. You put your lips on it and you blow. I'm trying to teach them how to do it. These are about $150. I'll use myself as an example. Next week I go back into ketosis. Even now that I'm not in it, I'm probably eating about 75 to 100 grams of carbs a day.
Olivia:
I had my carb day yesterday.
Dr. Pompa:
We did. I witnessed that. That is true. In the morning, it would be grain and color. Yesterday afternoon I was in the yellow phase, which means I was probably about 0.5, 0.6 in blowing ketones. Instead of doing the finger prick, you're able to use this as a gauge. It's just cheaper. I can do it all day long. I keep it here just for fun. Now that I'm going into ketosis, I've been monitoring myself out of ketosis more. I'm just going to see the differences.
She will blow ketones. Put your lips on it and exhaust your breath, maybe 20, 30 seconds of a solid breath. Take a deep breath in and then blow tightly. I don't want to do it. You have to put lips around it and blow.
Meredith:
For those of you who are just listening on iTunes, they're using a Ketonix Breath Stick to measure ketones. If you're just listening, that's what's happening right now.
Dr. Pompa:
We're measuring breath ketones as opposed to blood ketones. The blood and the breath are the most accurate ways to assess it.
Meredith:
Do you get the actual point measurement of the ketones?
Dr. Pompa:
What color is that? She's about 0.5. That's basically where I was. You're about 0.5, 0.6 ketones. You look at the colors. You don't get an exact point. You get online and it'll tell you the colors and you count the flashes. When you count the flashes, it'll give you a range of where you are. You just kind of get used to it after awhile, then you can start to read where the ketones are.
Olivia:
I need one of these.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it's really cool. You can do it multiple times. I'm paying $2 to $4 per strip. It's just a way to do it. It's accurate. It's not point on. You don't get oh, I'm 0.7. You get a range, knowing that you're in or you're out. Just wanted to show that for teaching's sake. You had a great thing. How does someone do this in college?
Meredith:
I'd like to take it back even further because you guys had a lot of information that just happened. I'm sure our viewers are thinking what was the time span that all of this happened. It seemed like a flash for you, Olivia, but just to take people back to when you first started on this journey. Then you went off of it. I'd like to know the timeframe of it all so people can kind of gauge and have some realistic expectations, especially some teenagers or parents of teenagers who are watching too to see the timeframe of how it all worked for you and how you transitioned into where you are today.
Olivia:
As I said before, the first time I did ketosis, which was about two summers ago, I got myself into ketosis —
Meredith:
How old are you now?
Olivia:
Sorry?
Meredith:
How old are you now?
Olivia:
How old am I? Twenty.
Meredith:
Twenty now, okay. You started when you were 18.
Olivia:
When I was about 18, almost 19. It took me probably a month to really stretch no carbs, under 50 grams, to get myself into ketosis. Really becoming fat adapted took me five months probably.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, maybe longer.
Olivia:
Maybe even longer. That's when I went to Europe was right after that. I got out of it, and for a whole entire year I was not in ketosis. I didn't do ketosis at all. When I came back from Europe, that took me even longer the second time.
Dr. Pompa:
Like many people, it took longer to become efficient. Now she can go to 5 o'clock intermittent fast without eating, ski all day, have energy, and not even get hungry. Whereas before, even when she took grains out of her diet, she was eating five, six times a day, just like most people. She would get so cranky when she didn't eat. Why? Her blood sugar would drop. She needed to eat. She was a sugar burner. Just like most teenagers, they screw their mitochondria up. She needed to eat all the time. Look out if she didn't eat because she's going to rip heads. Now she's controlled.
Olivia:
My first couple months really trying to get myself into intermittent fasting, I was miserable. It was not fun. Not eating until 2:30, I did not enjoy that whatsoever. Once I got myself there, I loved it. Perfect time to work out in the morning. I love it so much. The journey's hard for sure.
Meredith:
Being on the other side is really amazing. You went off to Europe and you were in Spain and had this amazing adventure and had all this wonderful food that you enjoyed. What's it like now being back in college, and how do you maintain your health when there's all these temptations around? I think back to college, just lots of cheap beer and bad pizza, lots of junk.
Olivia:
I wish I had my friends here to vouch for me. I don't eat like that, and I never will. That's why I always have to have a kitchen. I cook every meal. I don't eat out. I go to school at Florida State in Tallahassee, and they don't have any healthy restaurants. I don't eat out. I eat every meal at home.
For my late lunch I'll have eggs with Vegenaise, lots of good fats, and lots of butter. I eat pads of grass fed butter with my eggs. For dinner I always cook. My brother is actually right down the road from me, so I cook for him too, which is really nice.
My friends always say to me you cook all the time. How do you do that? You've got to do it when you're trying to eat organic. I definitely put that as my number one priority, so I spend a lot more time cooking and driving to Whole Foods. Regular college kids won't do that. My advice is for them do it.
Dr. Pompa:
Get off your lazy -inaudible-.
Olivia:
It becomes a real habit, coming home and setting time. Here's the another thing. I'll buy a whole pack of organic chicken. I'll make six chicken breasts, and that's my whole week of food. They'll make an excuse, I don't have time to cook. I don't want to. There's ways to do it where you can prepare — what is that? Meal preparation or something? What's that word? I don't know. There's ways to do it. Then they also say it's too expensive. There's also ways to shop.
Dr. Pompa:
When I was in chiropractic school, you know those rice cookers? It was a steamer. I would put my chicken and vegetables in there. It would be done. I would come home and have my meal. I was going to school and working, and I still managed to eat well. Like her, all the guys I worked with started seeing the difference. They made fun of me at first. Then by the end, they called it the Pompa program. They all jumped in on it. They shredded all this weight. Their health went through the roof. Many of them are still eating that way today.
Olivia:
I have a funny story, actually. I just joined a sorority. When you first join a sorority, you don't know all these girls. You're slowly getting to know them. I went to Disney World one morning and didn't know the girls I was with very well. Obviously they don't understand how I eat and how I do my life. I had just gotten back from Europe, so I was miserable adjusting, getting myself fat adapted. I would be waiting to eat until 3 o'clock during the day, but we were at Disney World early.
I was so hungry, but I knew I couldn't eat. I had to push through it. I said I just need coffee because coffee really helps curb your appetite in the morning. It's the number one thing that really helped me get into intermittent fasting really well.
We get there to Disney World, and I'm just hunting for a Starbucks. I need to get some coffee. All my friends are like why isn't she eating? She's anorexic. Of course, you get anorexic thrown around all the time, which it's not anorexia. It's intermittent fasting. I tried to explain it, and they don't get it. I just need some coffee. The other thing was that I had brought three hard boiled eggs in my pocket.
Dr. Pompa:
I saw you do that.
Meredith:
Everybody does that.
Olivia:
We were there until 6 or 7 o'clock at night. I knew I had to bring food, and I'm not going to eat a hamburger there or French fries. I bring my pocketful of hardboiled eggs. They're my best friends to this day, but they remind me of it all the time. They're like you were the girl that brought hardboiled eggs, and all you wanted was a Starbucks coffee. We thought you were anorexic. I literally had hardboiled eggs sticking out of my pocket. That's how desperate I was, how valuable food is.
Dr. Pompa:
That shows dedication, right? Who goes to Disney World — I would. I would do that.
Olivia:
People say you're in college. It's too hard to eat healthy. No, hardboiled eggs fit in your pocket. I promise.
Meredith:
If you're looking for an excuse, you always find one. That is very inspirational, and I love that dedication. When you mentioned you have had a lot of influence on your friends as well, can you share there as to how your lifestyle and some of the things you've been sharing with them have had an impact on some people that you know and care about?
Olivia:
Lots of my friends, actually. Here's another story. One of my friends I've mentioned before in one of our shows, Evan, I told him one day you can't burn your butter or else it becomes a bad fat. Now that's the joke. Every time I see him he goes, “Liv, this morning I burnt my butter.” It's cool that all my friends know now.
Dr. Pompa:
She polices them. You're going to make your oil go bad.
Olivia:
All my friends are eating ranch dressing. No, that has canola oil in it. Come on. Now my friends don't eat that anymore. It's kind of cool to see that happening. I just had a bunch of friends come visit us in Park City, and a couple days ago my friend Holly called me on FaceTime. She was like, “Liv, guess what? I'm drinking coffee right now with butter. I'm intermittent fasting until 2 o'clock every day.”
She watched my family do it every day. She watched them get up at 7:00 in the morning. She would watch my dad sit here and work all day and not touch food until 5 o'clock, and he looks great for his age. It's like that's your dad? He looks incredible. How are they doing it? My brother looks great. It's kind of cool to see my friends valuing that too, listening to me.
Dr. Pompa:
She's a teacher in -inaudible-, and she's actually going to school right now. She's going to go to chiropractic school.
Olivia:
I'm a bionutrition major at Florida State, and I think I'm going to graduate a year early and go to -inaudible- University.
Dr. Pompa:
The sooner, the better. That's what's her calling. You can tell it's her calling. How do you know something is your calling? When you start realizing all these lives around that you influence in this way. No doubt, that's her calling. Detox is another big thing. I said that when she became older, she started getting some of the effects, some sensory integration. She gets some pain sensitivities, smell, even taste sensitivity.
Olivia:
My roommate told me this story one day that when she was little she had a really bad mold problem in her house. I live with her, so she tells me all of her health problems about how she can't wake up in the morning, how she's so groggy, and she's fatigued. I mean bad fatigue. She can't even go to the gym she's so tired.
She's like I don't know why I feel sick all the time. I'm like didn't you just tell me yesterday that you lived in a mold trap for a year when you were a kid? That's why. You have to be detoxing. I'm actually having her order DMSA. We're going to start detoxing her. It's kind of cool that she's in college, I'm in college. Everyone needs to start getting their health back.
Dr. Pompa:
That's awesome. She started detoxing later. Dylan went through stuff earlier, and then put it aside. She had these symptoms crop up. Now she detoxes all the time. She knows how to use cellular detox. Believe me.
Olivia:
I had a lot of my symptoms come out after I had gotten a concussion. I got a really bad concussion. I don't know what it was yet. I'm going to figure it out one day. It triggered it. I started experiencing horrible fatigue, fogginess in my head where I couldn't focus in school. It was really bad. That was when I finally was like I have to detox. I've been detoxing ever since. All the time.
Meredith:
You notice a big difference after your concussion since implementing the detox?
Olivia:
Yeah.
Dr. Pompa:
I'll say something about the concussion. When I do a history with someone, I look for traumas; physical, chemical, or emotional. Physical trauma, especially to the head, can open up the blood brain barrier. When you get a concussion, you're actually allowing more toxins to cross into the brain. We knew that they were in her body. We knew she needed to do more detox. That was it. When those symptoms started, she did it.
Olivia:
It was like the skin thing. I needed something to push me.
Dr. Pompa:
Most people do.
Olivia:
The fogginess in my head, I'm not kidding you, I could not think. I couldn't get up in the morning. I could barely work out. It really pushed me. Once I'm into it, every time I detox, I feel it in my head. I need to detox. Once I start it again, I feel great. I've got to push myself to do it, even though it really isn't fun sometimes.
Meredith:
That's part of it. I think so many people who maybe have had head trauma, traumatic brain injuries, concussions, different issues wouldn't connect detoxing as a healthy support to the healing of a brain trauma. I think that's really important.
Olivia:
Just another point, great story. I had gotten a second concussion in Spain. I fell and hit my head on the floor in Spain. It was horrible. I had to go to the Emergency Room. It was worse than the first one. The first one was a car accident. The second one I knew it was coming. I knew the feeling in my head. I had that concussion again.
It was this fogginess in my head. I literally felt drunk. It was this unexplainable feeling. I called my dad. I was freaking out. I had just gotten back to Spain, and I couldn't even travel it was so bad. I could barely walk. He called and said to fast. I water fasted for five days. It was the most remarkable thing ever. I woke up on the fifth day, walked downstairs, ate. I felt 100%. It was like my concussion just went away. It was a miracle. The fasting literally healed my brain.
Dr. Pompa:
I had sent her a paper that was written on research on fasting and healing concussions. The results were dramatic in the study. A study is one thing, but a second concussion takes four times longer to heal. This was her second concussion. We had gone to college and put her in this gyroscope.
Olivia:
I had treatment and everything. I went all the way to Atlanta. The first time I had treatment, it really didn't work that well for me. I don't know why. Maybe it just wasn't right. I think most of the symptoms was also my toxicity too. The second time he was like Liv, you have to pinpoint that inflammation by fasting. You need to fast. I thought he was crazy. I was like I'm not going to not eat for five days. I had done the fast before, and I hated it. I was like never again. It was miserable.
Dr. Pompa:
With every fast people get better. I think that was your second long fast.
Olivia:
The second time I did it, I did it over the summer too. It was easier.
Dr. Pompa:
Day two though, I got the call. I'm miserable. Stick it out. She did. She's disciplined.
Olivia:
I was like I can't do it, but I did it. I woke up on the fifth day, and I could walk. I was fine. I traveled that next weekend. It was amazing. That's my fasting story.
Dr. Pompa:
Fasting heals the brain. It heals the brain regardless. You have something traumatic like a concussion prove positive of what fasting can do. It's the combination of super high ketones during fasting. The reduction of the inflammation happens during the fast can heal the brain just like that. She's already experienced so many things. She's called to it because she's going to remember those experiences.
Olivia:
Just like him. He's got his stories, I've got mine.
Dr. Pompa:
From pain to purpose. I always share that picture back there. Oh, my gosh. Let's just embarrass her a little bit.
Olivia:
I used to have really bad glasses.
Dr. Pompa:
There she is, and there's Dylan. I'll talk to you. He just wasn't right then. Poor Dylan. That's when we had just gotten him at age seven. If you met him today, you'd be like really? You were on the autism spectrum? He's completely different than that, obviously. Daniel, who we've interviewed here.
Meredith:
That's the Pompa squad.
Dr. Pompa:
That's Izik, high lead. That's Simon. Oh man, just wait until I bring that kid on the show one day. Of course, that's Merily. I don't know who that guy is. That's Olivia. That's from pain to purpose. That's the same picture, isn't it? It's another version of the same picture. I thought that was later on. I have a new one coming. Enough of that.
Olivia:
Meredith, what else do you want to know?
Meredith:
We've covered a lot. I just want to recognize you for the inspiration that you are at your age. I wish when I had been 20 years old that I had the knowledge that you have and the impact that you're having on so many people. I think it's fantastic. The strength that you have to be in a college environment where you're cooking all of your meals, and you're staying so strong. I just want to applaud you for that first of all because I think that that is not an easy thing to do. Over time it can seem easy. You should be so proud of her, Dr. Pompa.
Olivia:
I would not be here without him. I wouldn't know anything. I'm so blessed.
Dr. Pompa:
I'm blessed to have a daughter like her, that's for sure. She's called to this. Right now out of all my children, she's the only one that I know is going to take this message on. The other ones are up in the air. Who knows? She is no doubt called to it. She's a world changer. Her story, if you only knew the details. From pain to purpose. I showed that picture because all of us really have an amazing story.
Olivia:
It's all a journey, that's for sure. I'm still getting my health back. I just took a urine toxic metal test, and I just saw the metals in my body. I'm not as healthy as you would think I am.
Dr. Pompa:
You know what my message is to her now, Meredith? Everyone on this show watching knows this; physical, emotional, and chemical trauma. My -inaudible- was a trauma that caused things. My sickness was a trauma. Going through everything with all the legal stuff and adopting the kids was a trauma. Imagine losing at seven years old your mother and father. Understanding how all that went down, how traumatic that was. Her next step in healing is the emotional stuff.
Olivia:
We all have to do it.
Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely. EMDR therapy, I'm telling her she needs that stuff. I hope everyone listening, it's physical, chemical, and emotional. We all have traumas. When you remove those emotional traumas, that reduces cellular inflammation just like removing chemical traumas. That's the next journey for her, getting through those emotional traumas.
They went through counseling when they were younger, and the counselor back then said they're as far and as good as they're going to get now. When they become teenagers and early 20s, they're going to need more counseling. Sure enough, I think a lot of it now, she's ready for that next stage of detox. True cellular detox is emotional detox as well.
Olivia:
My goal before I have kids is to have my health great. I want to be the healthiest mom out there.
Dr. Pompa:
Aww, that's sweet. She will be, trust me.
Olivia:
I want to teach my kids healthy.
Dr. Pompa:
Meredith, she reminds me of you. She creates recipes. She's on it just like you. She's very creative with the food. I wish we had more time. She could tell you some of the things that she puts together.
Olivia:
Is there anything else, Meredith, that you want to ask me?
Meredith:
What's a fun new recipe you've been working on? Give us a little something fun.
Olivia:
After coming home from Italy, one of my favorite things to do, and my friends love it too, is I literally just do chicken breasts with Vodka sauce and cheese. I don't know why. That's my favorite meal right now. I put pesto on it. I just studied abroad in Italy, so I have this pesto mindset right now. I eat it all the time. That's a fun idea. You just throw it in the oven, and it's easy. It's so easy. It's so good.
Dr. Pompa:
What would be your first meal in the afternoon? Let's say you eat at 3 o'clock. What would be a first meal?
Olivia:
I love eggs. Not everyone loves eggs, but I love eggs. I eat eggs on these fiber crackers. They're just fiber literally. I put tons of butter on it. I eat it with eggs and Vegenaise too. It's good fats. That's definitely something I would eat. I love turkey breast with Vegenaise or cheese. Just high fat and a little bit of protein.
Meredith:
I think the simpler, the better too. Many people tend to think the ketogenic diet or cellular healing diet, it's so complicated. How do I change all these things? It's so simple. It's good fats. It's clean proteins. It's lots of non-starchy veggies. It's real food. It's so simple.
Olivia:
It's really hard for people, especially college kids, that want to do everything that the book says. They think high fat diet, there's no way that can be healthy. You tell them why. You say the fat you're eating today isn't healthy. It's genetically modified. There's hormones in it. It's not the way God intended it to be. It's not how it was originally supposed to be. That's what you have to teach them. Fat today isn't healthy in America. It's not.
Dr. Pompa:
It's education.
Olivia:
You have to eat the right kinds of fat. That's hard for people to understand. They don't understand what grass fed meat is. That's what I want people to understand. College kids need to understand that.
Meredith:
I think like you just said too, it is education. That's what people are lacking. That's why we need truth seekers and people like you, Olivia, who are going to go out and spread the truth and share information with people so that they can make informed decisions about how to live their lives and how to be healthier.
Dr. Pompa:
When I went to college, I didn't know anyone taking medications. How many —
Olivia:
Everyone. Oh, my goodness. I've never been on an antibiotic once. I had strep and pink eye a week before coming home. All my friends were like Liv, get medicine. I'm not going to do that. We use antibiotics too much. All my friends are on Z-Pak all the time. They're getting sicker. They're getting sick all the time. Your immune system isn't building itself.
Dr. Pompa:
You have friends that are on anti-depressants. How many college kids are taking anti-depressants, from Adderall to who knows what else?
Olivia:
People are abusing drugs today. It's really sad, and it's going to catch up to us. It's destroying our bodies.
Dr. Pompa:
You know what makes me most proud of my children? Olivia's in college. It's the hardest place to be. You're surrounded by people who are doing things a certain way that's acceptable to them; taking medications, stimulants, surviving. Wait until they hit their 30s. Meredith, autoimmune, imagine the diseases that are coming. They're leaders. Just not taking the drugs makes their brain work better, let alone the food. It's just unbelievable.
Olivia:
When my friends were here, they commented I don't get vaccines except the required ones. I was like no.
Dr. Pompa:
How many are taking flu shot after flu shot?
Olivia:
Lots of them. You don't get vaccines, but you take the required ones?
Dr. Pompa:
Here's what people have to understand. Before age seven, when we went to visit them, they seemed like they were always on antibiotics. As a matter of fact, there were antibiotics in the medicine cabinets. This is the point. After age seven, she hasn't been on an antibiotic one time ever. My biological children have never been on an antibiotic in their life.
Olivia:
I'm jealous. I wish I wasn't vaccinated. That would be awesome.
Dr. Pompa:
Bottom line is are we just really lucky or do we have a different philosophy? It's a different philosophy that everybody can adopt.
Olivia:
Here's another story. I was in Jamaica on a mission trip, and I stepped on a rusty nail. They all said you need to go to the hospital and get a tetanus shot. He was on the phone and said, “Heck, no. You don't need a tetanus shot. You're fine.”
Dr. Pompa:
It's anaerobic bacteria. That's what tetanus is. The nail is exposed in sunlight. It was impossible to have tetanus because it wasn't under water. Heck with that, right? Bottom line, she was fine.
Olivia:
People are just so quick to throw drugs in their bodies. That's the problem today. We're abusing drugs. There is a time and a place for them. If we were to get super hurt or super sick, of course.
Dr. Pompa:
A time and a place, absolutely. Olivia represents a generation that is the sickest generation that's ever walked the earth. This generation is doomed. Probably even worse is the generation under her. That's probably the really sick generation. Her generation is much sicker than my generation, no doubt. It keeps getting worse.
The leadership of kids like her that are being raised with a different philosophy that health comes from within, remove the interference, the body can heal. That's the way we live our life. It's as simple as that. Because of that, the outcome is different. I believe leaders need that mindset today. That's it, Meredith. There's just another picture of what God's doing in our life.
Meredith:
I think it's amazing, and I think your story is amazing, Olivia. Thank you for sharing. I just want to know if you have any parting advice for kids your age who are watching the show or adults of teenagers. What would you say to them to encourage them to stay on the path or to jump on the path?
Olivia:
I don't know.
Dr. Pompa:
I'll start, and she can finish. Here's the thing. I don't know who we were interviewing last time, but people today are sick and they don't even know it. I know who it was. My son Daniel's girlfriend was here from Florida visiting. This is another great story. When she first came here, I said, “She is sick.” Daniel said, “I know she is.”
She would literally have to sleep several times through the day just to get through the day, this young girl. He started influencing her, and she fasted. Now I think she's fasted three or four times. The last fast I said to her, “[Chrissy], your health is so different now.” She's like, “Oh, my gosh. I didn't know how sick I was.” That's where that came from. I didn't know how sick I was. She says, “I just thought it was normal.” Most of her friends were like that.
When she got up, two hours later she had to sleep again. She had no energy. She was wiped out doing what Americans do. This generation is doomed. If you understand that that's not normal, there's a starting place. Don't wait. If you're on medications, there's something wrong that you can do something about. That's my advice.
Olivia:
My advice is you need to do your research. People need to educate themselves. I know that's hard because they think that everything in the books is right, but it's wrong. Everything is not right. My other advice is stopping eating McDonalds first.
Dr. Pompa:
Get rid of the processed fast food.
Olivia:
Another piece of advice is I'm tired of my friends coming to me and saying am I gaining weight? I tell them every day what do you mean are you gaining weight? You're not eating well. You're sick. I give you advice, and you don't do anything with it. My advice is to do something with the knowledge that we're telling you and that you're learning. You're learning it, you're just not doing it.
Dr. Pompa:
Good advice.
Olivia:
My advice is just do it.
Meredith:
Just do it. I love that.
Olivia:
It gets easier. It really does get easier.
Meredith:
It does over time. At first it seems like a mountain, but once you're on the other side, it's a whole different journey. It's amazing. The influence that you guys are having is awesome. Thank you so much, Olivia, for sharing so much today, your wisdom. I'm so excited to see what God has ahead for you. Thank you so much for joining us today.
Dr. Pompa:
Thanks, Meredith.
Meredith:
Thanks, Dr. Pompa. Thanks, everybody, for watching. Have a great weekend, and we'll see you next time. Bye-bye.
Olivia:
Bye.
