Transcript of Episode 184: Secrets to Fixing Chronic Sickness
With Dr. Daniel Pompa, Meredith Dykstra and Dr. Jason West
Meredith:
Hello, everyone, and welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I'm your host, Meredith Dykstra, and this is Episode Number 184. We have our resident cellular healing specialist, Dr. Dan Pompa, on the line, and today we welcome a very special guest, Dr. Jason West. I have to tell you, I think this episode is going to be all over the place today because Dr. West has an expertise in a lot of different areas. So this is going to be a really interesting conversation with a lot of different cutting-edge therapies he's using to get his clients well.
So before we dive into the conversation, let me tell you a little bit more about Dr. West. As a fourth-generation healer and a world-renowned integrative medical physician, Dr. Jason West believes in providing exceptional healthcare to his patients. With two doctorates, published studies, a fellowship in healthcare disciplines, a doctorate of medicine in progress, and over $1 million in continuing education, Dr. West's knowledge and training is unmatched. Dr. West's expertise spans IV therapy, Prolozone therapy, neural therapy, chiropractic care, natural medicine, energy medicine, stem cell therapy, hyperbaric oxygen therapy, nutritional therapy, and oxidative medicine.
Wow, get all that? The West Clinic is frequently a last stop for sick and exhausted patients who do not fit the typical medical model and have been given up by the medical establishment. Dr. West has lectured at conferences all over the world and in addition to the integrative chiropractic, naturopathic, and acupuncture conferences, he's taught over 50 individual seminars for doctors on topics such as clinical nutrition, blood chemistry, and chronic disease. Countless individuals have benefited from the compassionate care rendered by Dr. West at the West Clinic. His thirst for knowledge urges him to continue learning to further his abilities and skills. With the belief he can help any condition, Dr. Jason West is committed to his calling in life, which is to heal. So welcome to Cellular Healing TV, Dr. West. We're so excited to have you.
Dr. West:
Thank you for having me.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, hey, Doc, you definitely—I did a Facebook Live, and I told the world about what one injection—and most people, it takes more than one. I'll say that now—of your Prolozone therapy, which we're going to talk about on the show, but it did. It transformed my back almost immediately, and I was so impressed. I want to start at a unique place here because I was also impressed when I saw the pictures of your father, his father, his father, four generations of you all in natural medicine. So start by talking about that, because I think it's part of your greatness, man. Tell us about that.
Dr. West:
Well, my great-grandfather started it off as a second career. Was a traveling violinist, migrated here from England, and his wife was always sick, my Great-Grandmother Alice. He took her into a newfangled doctor in Ogden, Utah, I want to say in 1910, 1911, and he was a chiropractor. The chiropractor really helped get my great-grandma's health act together. My grandfather always said if I had my life to do over again, I want to be a chiropractic. He got the opportunity in his mid-40s, left his wife and seven or eight kids in Pocatello, Idaho. That was their last stop. That's why we have our office here. Traveling around the west performing the violin and eventually got enough money, went back to Chicago, got his doctorate, came back and started treating railroad spine, and railroad spine is what—they don't have it anymore, but what'd happen was they'd have these railroad cars. They didn't have any bumper or coupling mechanisms. What happens to hook up the cars, they'd just take the locomotive and ram it into the cars. It was like having a car accident every day for the conductors and engineers on the train. They all had these terrible backs, and he got this reputation of taking care of difficult “railroad spine.”
Then he had some really good outcomes from the worldwide flu in 1918, 1919, and we started taking care of chronic, complicated conditions almost 97 years ago. So much of what we do in the office my great-grandfather taught my grandfather, my grandfather taught my dad, and my dad taught me.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I gathered that, too. I think you added your expertise. You went through each picture with me, like he was an expect in this, he was an expert in this, all the way down to you. You have become—Jeff Hayes is a mutual friend of ours and someone who you helped as well. Jeff Hayes is, for those who don't know, a producer of many different health documentaries. He described you as Michael Jordan with a needle. He said, “Dan, you got to go see Jason, alright?” So I said okay. Someone's ringing my doorbell, sorry.
I said okay, I'm going to go. You really made a difference with him. Anyways, people come from all over the world just because your ability to hit certain areas—you described it with me like this. You said basically—you gave the analogy—I'll let you tell the story but of the guy who comes in and just taps the right area and said, yeah, okay, that was $15,000. You don't charge that much, but the analogy is he hit the right spot. Tell that analogy because that's part of your brilliance, man. You have the ability to hit the right areas with some of these injections, and we're going to talk more about those injections in a minute.
Dr. West:
So the story I have is that they have a plan that breaks down, and everything's dependent on this big piece of machinery in the middle of the plant, and the plant owner calls the mechanic, and the mechanic shows up. He looks around the machine for a little bit, and he takes out a hammer. He taps on the machine. All the sudden, the machine starts working and he says, “Give me an invoice,” so the guy gave him an invoice for $50,000. The guy was like, “Oh, my gosh, why would you charge that much? Break it down for me.” He was like, “Ten dollars for travel, ten dollars for gas, $49,970 knowing where to hit.”
Really, really, I love continuing education. I always am going to something. It's one thing to learn anatomy in school when you're in there working on your cadaver and you're hum-drum, but when you've been in practice for a while and then you get the opportunity to work on cadavers and go be in the cadaver lab and really knowing where things are going and where they're located and then getting to that spot with a therapeutic application of a natural vitamin injection literally turns people around. It's life-changing.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no doubt. Let's talk about the Prolozone therapy, what it is, what you do different. That's what helped me, so tell them about that. There's a lot of people right now with chronic conditions and pain that could really benefit from this.
Dr. West:
So this fits underneath the umbrella of what we call regenerative injection therapy. The idea behind regenerative injection therapy is we want to stimulate your body to heal itself. It's the polar opposite of cortisone therapy. So in medical treatment, if you have a painful condition—I always give this analogy and I'm kind of joking and I'm kind of serious with patients. If you're driving down the road and you look down at your dashboard to make sure that you're going to the speed limit and other things, and all of a sudden you see your oil light show up, the medical treatment for that is here's a black piece of electrician's tape. Just put it over the oil light.
In cortisone, that's what it does. It removes inflammation. It takes away the body's warning signals or system, and I'm not saying in certain times it may not be appropriate. I do think it gets enormously overused. You can't keep putting cortisone into an area. It'll destroy the bone, and it'll kill the tissues. Usually you can go two or three. I have patients all the time that'll say I got a cortisone injection. It worked awesome for six months, and then I got another cortisone injection, and it worked for a week. Then I got a third one, and it didn't work at all.
What regenerative injection therapy is we want to increase targeted inflammation versus removing inflammation. The difference between using the Prolozone therapy instead of taking pills is if you take pills, sometimes it just gets disseminated through the whole body, and you can't get the concentration -inaudible- that you need in an area. If you inject the area with something that stimulates it to heal—so our initial application is B12, some Vitamin C, a little bit of [amphermine] or benzoic acid, some 5% dextrose, and then you follow that—you leave the needle there. You follow it up with a little bit of oxidative medicine or ozone therapy, and the ozone therapy makes the body go into healing mode. You put the building blocks there. The ozone therapy is like putting a construction crew in the area, and you can remodel tissue for things like bone-on-bone arthritis, tendinitis, tendinotis, tendonosis, chronic shoulder problems, meniscus tears, partial ACL or MCL tears. I mean, if it's completely torn, you can't fix it, but if it's partially torn you can get those to heal.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, I mean, I noticed an immediate difference, and I'll have to say, you put these injections right into my sacrum and lumbar area. I didn't even feel the injections, honestly. I really didn't. I felt some expansion, some tightness. You said that I might have some more discomfort in the next day, but I didn't really. It was just after about a week, I would say—I told the story in the Facebook Live, literally. Maybe it was two weeks at that point, but I literally went and picked up a 90-pound dumbbell, and I was like—I realized what I just did. Normally it would hurt my back, and it didn't.
Even if I stretched, because I have this lumbo sacrel ligament tear, even if I was just stretching my hamstrings, which would normally help people in the low back, I'd be sore the next day. I can actually stretch again. I mean, no doubt, everything you said, it stimulated healing. Most people—okay, that was one shot, but you did tell me most people need three to five, maybe three to six of those shots because the healing continues. Is that correct?
Dr. West:
Yes, and the difference between you and “normal” patients is a lot of times with normal patients, it's garbage in, garbage out, and because they're putting Mountain Dew, and Doritos, and Oreos in their system all the time, it takes more application of that targeted payload to get to that area to make it heal. Some of it's really into their health, their detox pathways are working. Their building blocks are in their system. You could turn them around really quick because the body just needs a real nudge instead of a big overhaul.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, look, you have people fly in from all over the world, literally, for your ability to inject them. Other people do Prolozone. What are you doing different? Why are people flying in to see you for this?
Dr. West:
Well, a couple things: one is it's just not the Prolozone. Prolozone is one of the two wholes, and yes, we have our special add mixer or special protocol for that. The other one is knowing exactly where to be and having just gobs and gobs of 15 years of experience doing it. The other thing is loading the body before, so when you came up, we were putting a bunch of Vitamin C and magnesium. I think one of the key minerals for ligament stability is manganese. You have enough manganese, it actually acts like a shrink-wrapper for your ligaments, and the ligaments hold the bones in place. Many chronic arthritis joint problems are weak ligaments or loose ligaments. It's almost like taking a rubber band. If you stretch the rubber band as far as it can and then you let go, it never goes back to its original shape. That manganese combination of preloading the body with the IV solutions and doing some magnet therapies, some post-electromatic frequency, and the oxygen Prolozone therapy, it's a combination of all those things making sure the body chemistry is balanced. I'm not surprised by miracles. I actually expect the miracles.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that's fantastic. I got one. How does it differ? People may or may not have heard of PRP. Some of my viewers and listeners may have. How does it differ between PRP and stem cell, which I did a Facebook—we did a show on stem cell. I think it was released not that long ago. Differentiate between these treatments.
Dr. West:
Okay, so the three treatments, we have regenerative injection therapy, which would be prolotherapy, neuro prolotherapy, peripheral nerve injection therapy, or Prolozone therapy. All of those are designed to stimulate the body to go into healing mode. -inaudible- control and stimulate inflammation. Inflammation makes it heal. Too much of it is bad; too little of it's bad. So all of those are underneath the regenerative injection therapy module. I happen to be a big fan of Prolozone. I think it works way better than prolotherapy or neural prolotherapy. It doesn't hurt as much, you don't need as many injections, and it's not as costly.
Now the PRP therapy—it stands for platelet-rich plasma therapy, and the same thing with taking platelets out of the blood and you're adding it to your injection mixture. Some guys do it with drugs. Some people do it with 2 1/2% dextrose. Other people add it to the Prolozone, but it's basically—platelets are the scab in healing. If you cut yourself, you have platelets that step in, and make a mesh, and make a scab, and basically if you take those platelets out of the blood and put them into the area that's injured, they think that it stimulates and hurries up the injury process.
We do platelet-rich therapy at the office. I just don't usually go at it first because I think the Prolozone works so well. It usually, 90% of the time, I can just use that. I don't have to use the platelets. In very advanced conditions, you can use the PRP therapy. It's getting more and more accepted.
In the stem cell therapy, there's basically one derived stem cell therapy; there's mesenchymal derived therapy, umbilical stem cell therapy, or amniotic stem cell therapy. It's really the rage in functional and integrative medicine. Basically, it's taking those stem cells that are going to differentiate into connective tissue, and bone tissue, and ligament tissue, and stuff like that, and heat up the healing process. I've done a lot of work in the stem cell world. We do some umbilical derived stem cell services at the office, but I'm not sure you really need to do that. So many times, you can just get people healed up with the Prolozone. It's only really the small, the few, and the resistant cases that need either PRP or umbilical therapy. I do think it's—we take in something that I think has some neat applications, and everybody's doing it, and it's turned into a great big profit center for a lot of people. I just don't think you need to spend 5 or 8 or $10,000 in back condition or -inaudible- condition unless the other therapies don't work.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I mean, it is far more costly; that's for sure. I agree. I mean, there's a time and a place for it, but I think these therapies that we're talking about need to be on the front end of that, for sure, especially just for the cost benefit alone. I agree. I've looked into it. The interview we did—the umbilical cord or the placenta matrix is the effective and safe way to go.
Dr. West:
I agree.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, and I think it's similar. It just stimulates the healing. I think the bone marrow is a little invasive when there's these new, other approaches. I think it's more effective The fat, getting it from your fat cells is probably the least effective of them. The umbilical cord—I'm sorry, the embryonic tissue, that's a little bit controversial, so laying it out there.
Anyways, yeah, so let's talk about something. When I was in your clinic, you had a lot of books, especially one that you actually wore out. You love a lot of these German techniques, one of which sounds very German, and it is, that my wife got twice. It's called the Frankenhauser technique. Now we have a lot of women who watch this show, and I know that many of them will benefit from this technique. Describe what this is and describe the uses for it. It was developed in Germany. I don't know. I think you're the only one doing it here. Maybe there's one or two others; I don't know. Talk about that, the Frankenhauser technique.
Dr. West:
Okay, so this technique is one of the magic treatment options for chronic healthcare conditions. I have no fear of doing it. There's no side effects, but it works awesome for headaches, for brain fog, for atrial fibrillations, heart conditions, breathing conditions. It's a magic for asthma, but it's also just phenomenal for female pelvic disorders. When I say female pelvic disorders, anything basically from the bellybutton to the mid-thigh, whether it's menopause, peri-menopause, infertility, chronic urinary tract infections, chronic tailbone pain, sacroiliac pain. Basically the theory behind it is no one out there is really treating—doing nerve reset therapy. Where the idea comes from or the story is is that there was a doctor that his sister basically had a little scar on her finger. Out of desperation, he treated it with a little local anesthetic. It reset the scar and made all of her migraine headaches go away. It was a gentleman named [Hunike]. He had a son named Hunike, and there was basically a doctor later on named Dr. [Dosche] who wrote the manual of neural therapy. It's really common in Europe. There was a French doctor that—a [Janet Trevair] which said hey, instead of calling it the German technique for neural therapy, let's call it mesotherapy or trigger point therapy.
What it does is it resets nerve memory. How I describe it to patients is this: if you walk into your house and your spouse, or your mom, or your kids are making your favorite dinner, you walk in and you get that stimuli through your system. You're like, oh, my gosh, that smells so good. I can't wait to partake of my favorite meal. Twenty, thirty seconds later you don't notice the smell because your nervous smell has accepted that stimuli as normal. It's stimulated.
Then you forget something in the car; you take your dog out for a walk; you take the garbage outside. You come back in and you're like oh, my gosh, that smells so good. Your nerves have reset. So many times with chronic pelvic disorders or chronic fatigue, chronic illness, your body accepts the nervous system as that's normal. I just had a patient in here. She's been sick. She's 49. She's been sick since she's 16. I said your body doesn't even know what it's like to be healthy because for 30 years of your life, you've been sick. If your body was a computer, we'd call up tech support. Tech support would say turn the body off or turn the computer off and turn it back on. Let's reboot the system.
I have this terrible joke with patients that I say look, we can't kill you and bring you back to life. You may have some unwanted side effects. I joke around with people, but literally you can take a B vitamin, a little tiny dental syringe and needle, and you can go to different parts of the body and you can get the nerves to reset. You can get the spleen to reset. You can get the brain to reset so many times. It's the magic treatment for women.
The inferior hypogastric plexis, it basically sits on top of the uterus, was discovered by Dr. Frankenhauser in Germany. We get a nerve memory in the pelvis, and then you start getting these gynecological disorders and these -inaudible- and infertility. If you reset that nerve impulse and inject that nerve tissue or right on top of that nerve tissue. The nerves open and then they close and they reset. You can literally get the nerves to reset. When you do that, many times it's like flipping a light switch. You get instantaneous healing. It's like using quantum medicine and they're healed.
Dr. Pompa:
My wife was all nervous because the injections go right into the pelvis area. I mean, I'm going this; you can't see what I'm doing. Anyways, there's two of them, one on each side. It goes in pretty deep so she thought surely this would be painful. Meanwhile, every woman in your office had this procedure. They're like oh, it's nothing. We all got it because it's that effective, even the young girls there. Then when you told me it will increase her libido, I said you're getting these no matter what. I'm going to hold you down.
No, that's not really the story, but you did say they increased the libido, and I can attest to that, that that was in fact true. Thank you again. I'm going to watch it. Meredith's going to jump in on me.
Meredith:
Got to keep you in line, Dr. Pompa.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, so anyways, we better not give Meredith those shots. No, they'll help you for everything. Good libido is healthy. It definitely increased her hormonal health and you know what? No doubt tightened up those ligaments because the funny thing was my wife going—entering into menopause. She kept getting this low back, pelvis SI thing going on, and she was doing everything. I brought her the best chiros, you name it. It was still happening. I'm swinging her leg over the bike. It was just—i said she has ligament laxity. I said this is caused by low estrogen, which is normal. Low estrogen going into that phase is a normal thing, but I think hers was even lower for all of her lead issues earlier on in life. You said, “You know what? I agree. She needs this shot.” Man, that was a gift, too.
There's another—and by the way, I have to say this other testimony. We were in your IV room, and there was a gal; she was from California. She had gotten it. At this point, she gets one a year, maybe, of that shot, but she had a tumor that she described as the size of a softball. Those shots, she said every time it was shrinking, and shrinking, and shrinking. That was the main thing she was doing was the Frankenhauser technique. Her tumor just shrunk, so she encouraged my wife, “Oh, my gosh, you want that.” Anyways, that was something you probably didn't know that actually happened in your IV room. You have a lot of devout believers there.
My wife would never get Botox but like most women her age, she's concerned about aging, the skin. She would never get fillers, Botox. You said, “You need this cellular therapy that we do,” and it's a homeopathic. You pull out the blood. It kind of resets the immune system. Describe that technique you do because I've never head of that, either. I don't know if it's another German technique or what, but kind of describe that. You described how it would affect the collagen.
Dr. West:
Well, so what we do is when I hear -inaudible-, what I like to do is to figure out what they're doing. I had heard about this doctor down in Mexico that was doing this “stem cell therapy.” When I say in quotes, phenomenal healer, really neat to process, but he basically was pulling out the blood, spinning it down, separating the plasma from the red blood cells, taking the DNA fragments out of the plasma, mixing it with the homeopathic, and injecting it into the person. He was calling it stem cell therapy, and I just thought I don't want any confusion with this because I think it's more of a homeopathic auto-sanguineous therapy type or a minor autohemotherapy, which means the self-treatment with blood.
It was interesting because I'm down at this healer's office, and I just think the world of him. I said to him, “If you teach me this and if there's any possible legal way that I can do this in the United States, I'm going to go back and I'm going to try and do it.” He looked at me for a minute and he's like, “Dr. West, there's no shortage of sick people.” What's wrong with your mindset? I'm going to teach you how to help other people.
Anyway, we came back. We basically take some blood out of the system, you spin it down, you separate the plasma and the red blood cells, you mix it with a homeopathic, and you literally can turn on the homeopathic stem cell activator or homeopathic cell activator. You literally can help patients to reprogram their DNA. You pull it out of the bloodstream; you put it back into the muscle system. When you pull it out of the bloodstream, it pulls out—it's almost like a self-cleansing mechanism, but it stimulates the DNA synthesis of different tissues. I've had really good outcomes with type 2 diabetes doing this, got really good outcomes with chronic tendinosis when the Prolozone hasn't stepped in. It also seems to really help people's connective tissue for aging, for wrinkles, for vitality. It's just introducing an activated DNA fragment into your system. It's your own tissue. Then basically it turns you on and puts you into repair mode.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it's so interesting Talk a little bit about—I don't want to call them Myers; cocktail because your cocktail is different. You had basically kind of mentioned this. To have certain nutrition up here when you do these injections makes all the difference. So talk about it because this particular IV, you make it mandatory for every person that comes in because it does set the stage or the core, for that matter, for these other injections you do, so talk about that.
Dr. West:
Well, I got into IV therapy because my dad got really, really sick in 2001, chronic ulcerative colitis, bleeding from the bowels, eyes basically swelled shut. We thought he was going to pass away, and a doctor friend of mine said, “Hey, Jason, I think he might have scurvy.” I was like, scurvy? That was solved hundreds of years ago. Telling me he's got a GI problem. Well, putting everything back together, he had a mercury post underneath a crown. He bit into the crown. It shattered, the crown. He swallowed some mercury, and he couldn't absorb any vitamins. He literally had scurvy in 2001.
We did some high-dose Vitamin C infusion therapy and we turned him around. It was miraculous. That's why I went back to school, got a second doctorate, so that I could do vitamin infusion therapy. Then I started learning about—the gold standard for infusion therapy or the accepted treatment is the Myers' cocktail, which is essentially Vitamin C, magnesium, potassium, B5, B6, B12, and some calcium. I think that's a great place to start, but there are so many things you can add on top of that.
Then I really started getting into Dr. Levy's work with the Vitamin C. I think the Myers' cocktails work really well, but you've got to get your Vitamin C levels up. Five or six grams of Vitamin C I think is nice for a little bit of boost, but I think the minimum is 25 to 30 grams of Vitamin C. In some of our “modified” Myers' cocktails, we'll do up to 100 grams. Vitamin C acts as an electron donor and literally, I think how Vitamin C works, when you go through everything, is it's the most powerful electron donor in nature and people get sick because they run out of energy or they run out of electrons. I know that's not an accepted medical diagnosis, but when people come in and they have cancer or they've got fibromyalgia, they've got chronic Lyme disease, peripheral neuropathy, disconnective tissue disease, it's because their body runs out of electrons. The body goes to different tissues and literally robs Peter to pay Paul.
For some people, it robs electrons away from the nervous system, or away from the muscle system, or away from the brain with the idea that we'll pay that back. Your body's like a bank. If you have more electrons going in, you're going to be healthy. You can have withdrawals and you can have energy needs, and you're going to be fine. If the opposite is true and you have more energy needs than what's going in, now you're on a chronic disease pathway. Vitamin C puts the electrons back into the body. I have found that the more Vitamin C, most of the time we get better outcomes. You give 25, 50, 75, 100 grams. I got some really sick patients with mononucleosis, with MRSA, with e.coli. They literally have been medical failures. We've saved legs from amputation by doing up to 300 grams an infusion. When I tell that to doctors, they're like, that'll kill people. I'm like, it doesn't. -inaudible- stomach and you put it into the vein, you can get massive, massive payload and it doesn't cause bowel problems. It doesn't cause kidney stones. It doesn't cause perosis. It's just knowing what you're doing and how to deliver it. I love Myers' cocktails. There's certainly way more out there than just those.
Dr. Pompa:
I'm getting ready to get on a plane, so I'll be up—I hear my echo.
Dr. West:
Is that on my end?
Dr. Pompa:
Anyways, Meredith, I'm going to turn it over to you because the cool thing is Meredith -inaudible- thinking in her mind. -inaudible-
Meredith:
Alright, I think—oh, I'm echoing, too.
Dr. Pompa:
Turn down your volume a little bit, perhaps.
Meredith:
Right. I think we're okay now. Actually, I don't know. I think it passed. Yeah, oh gosh, I'm so amazed by the variety of treatments you offer. I'm just curious to step back. When a new client, when a new patient comes to your clinic, how do you begin to assess them and what they need because you offer so many different things? Where does the process start?
Dr. West:
The process starts in basically the patient history and expectations. I think this is—I didn't learn this in school, but I think this is really important for everybody to understand, is there's a reason why people come into your office, and then there's the real reason why they come. They'll come into the office, and they'll say, my shoulder hurts. I've got shoulder pain, but that's not why they come in. What they're telling you is I've lost something. I can't golf; I can't fish; I can't put my arm around my wife; I can't lift up my grandkids. If you'll ask what are your expectations and what have you really lost, and that's what you focus on, I think that's the most important thing.
The other thing I like to tell people is I say look, this is my magic wand. Pretend I'm Gandalf or Merlin, and this is my wizard staff. If I could fix one thing and you would go back to Pennsylvania or go back to Park City, what would it be? Then people will tell you well, it's my back; it's my elbow; it's my stomach; it's my hormones. That's where you start. Really, the way you start, how you help people is it's the Humpty Dumpty protocol. People are falling off a wall. They're in pieces, and when you put them back together then what happens is their lives change.
One of my favorite things to do, walk me through a normal day of your life. What time do you get up? What time do you go to bed? What time are you eating breakfast? What is breakfast? What's lunch? What's dinner? You got to understand their lifestyle because you can do some really neat things but if you don't help them to take control and own their lifestyle, you're always going to be giving Band-Aid care.
Then you walk through all the systems and then there's no such thing as a low back protocol. There's no such thing as a heart protocol. There's no such thing as a Lyme or MS protocol. There's a Meredith protocol. There's a Dr. Pompa protocol. There's a Jason protocol. There's a Mindy, or an Anna, or a Kim protocol. You have to treat individually. This is one of the difficulties when people come in. I had a doctor call me from Louisiana and said, “You treated one of my patients. They're doing really, really well. I want to maintain the therapy. How do I treat the patient?” The answer is treat the patient. He said, “What's the protocol?” and I said, “It's not like taking two cups of flour and an egg, put it in a cup of oil and a little bit of baking soda, and throw it in the oven at 350 degrees.” There's no cookbook medicine.
Dr. Pompa:
I couldn't agree more.
Dr. West:
Address what's wrong and then assign the appropriate therapy. Usually, Meredith, at our office, we never get easy stuff. It's always difficult. I'm putting my life back together from trauma or from cancer, or I've been everywhere else. I've been to the Cleveland Clinic, or the Mayo Clinic, or the Century Clinic, and I'm not getting better. What you want to focus on is, again, what's wrong and how to balance the body through biochemistry, by detoxification, by hormones, and by biomechanics. Then if you do that, many times you can get really good outcomes. I say many times because I wish I could say everyone coming to the office has gotten better, and that's not true. Part of it is we haven't caught people in enough time to change them. Some people don't want to get better, and then some people don't have the support either financially or through their inner circle to get better. There's some barriers to healing that prevent those outcomes. That's where you start.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I agree with everything you said whole-heartedly, no doubt.
Meredith:
Yeah, it's got to be customized. I'm wondering, are there particular treatments that you use that you've seen the best results with versus some of the others in your clinic?
Dr. West:
Well, it's interesting because I'm not sure what the right protocol is for the right patient until you actually start working with them.
Dr. Pompa:
I agree.
Dr. West:
With someone comes in and they're like look, I got a tendon problem, the natural thing is okay, let's go do some regenerative injection on that tendon insertion, or the tendon origin, or whatever hurts, or let's work on the muscle body. Then if that doesn't turn around by direct application, you know it's more of a systemic or metabolic program. You've got to delve a little bit deeper and solve the—I love that statement [totalcausim], which is understand and treat the cause. If you find the cause and you treat it, your body is this miraculous organism, this machine that basically can heal itself if you get the right building blocks, you get the poisons out, you get the building blocks in, you get out of the way, and you don't put people on chemical respirators. That's my way of saying you don't over-medicate them with prescriptions and create a dependency. You can really, really help people so that they can achieve and maintain optimal health.
Dr. Pompa:
I agree.
Meredith:
I'm wondering, too, what are some of the outside therapies that you're expecting these clients to fulfill on their end? They come to your clinic and get all these different therapies on site, but what are some of the diet protocols, maybe lifestyle protocols, that they need to maintain results?
Dr. West:
So I used to think that the mind-body healing and the Biology Belief and Unforgiveness and all this other stuff was hokey and didn't make an impact, and I'm kind of embarrassed to say that. You're so accurate that if you don't have people change what they're doing, they're just going to end up back in the office. Whether it's me or whether it's the emergency room or a -inaudible- or a physical therapist and we're just doing Band-Aid care. You have to empower people.
I think the most important thing is you start with them and getting them to communicate with themselves. I think that's so important. I tell people look, this doesn't cost anything There's no magic bullet. There's no magic pill. You need to like yourself. You've got to communicate with yourself. You need prayer, meditation, deep breathing, and my favorite thing to tell people and teach people how to do outside the office is journaling. If you will journal, it connects your right hemisphere, your left hemisphere of the brain so the purpose flows and it strengthens up that pathway. You can learn to communicate with yourself I think that's the most important thing.
The next most important thing is I have a sign in my office that says, “If you are what you eat, are you fast, cheap, and easy?” If you are putting junk in your system, it's like a computer. Garbage in, you get garbage out. We want to make sure that—you want to sit—when you sit—I have simple rules. If you sit down and eat, you should have a rainbow of colors on your plate, some red, some green, some white, some orange. Skittles, Starburst don't count. It has to be plant-based material. You want to have a colorful diet. Anything you could eat a hundred years ago is a really good starting spot because that gets rid of Domino's, and Arby's, and McDonald's, and all of the fast synthetic food.
Then the next thing is water. Get lots of water. They always ask me, how much water? A lot. Drink a lot of water, healthy water, and then I love telling people I think it's really therapeutic to get hot. If you're sick, to get hot for 20 minutes a day, preferably infrared sauna or a wet sauna. You can do it in a bath or even a shower. That helps to get—mobilize toxins. It helps to get your body so that your immune system kicks on. Communicate with yourself, healthy foods, lots of water, get hot 20 minutes a day—if I could just get people to do that, enormous progress.
Meredith:
I love that. As you know, Dr. Pompa's the detox expert, so I'm curious, can you speak a little bit more about your detox protocols.
Dr. West:
Yes, once I—and let me get my computer plugged in. I've got to—it's telling me bad battery. Hold on one second.
Meredith:
Low battery, alright. We want you charged up.
Dr. West:
Okay, easy fix.
Meredith:
Awesome.
Dr. West:
Detox protocols, I love just cleansing the gut. And so I like to put people on some cilantro, some -inaudible-, making sure that we have—I really like using okra to help to cleanse the GI system I like to introduce them to heat deprivation therapy, was again, getting your body hot. You can do some ionic foot cleanses. Then the most important thing, which I forgot to mention the other thing, is movement. Movement and exercise is life. Get out and move. If you're not used to moving, I don't expect you to go out and run an Iron Man competition or a marathon. I don't think that would be good for you if you have deconditioning syndrome. Moving and exercising consistently helps to mobilize toxins and poisons.
Then my favorite thing that I love to use, oxidative medicine, either rectal ozone therapy where you take a little syringe or catheter, insert it in the rectum up into the colon, infuse anywhere from 500 to 1,000 cc's of 35 gamma ozone, and it helps to detoxify the whole bowel. The colon is very, very absorbable, so you can actually get systemic ozone throughout the body. There's a wonderful researcher down in Cuba named Sylvia Menendez that has something like 78 or 80 different studies on using colorectal ozone to detox people.
I also really, really like to do kelation therapy, primarily IV treatments but also orally because the kelation is essentially a protein molecule with four vinegar molecules on each side. What it does is it binds up with toxins in your system, helps to pull them out through primarily the kidney system. I think kelation is one of the most important detox therapies available. I don't—I'm 44 years old. I don't have any heart problems, though I have enormous heart history, and I primarily do it preventative, but I love doing that to help people detox when appropriate.
So water, good food, lots of water, oxidative medicine, and kelation therapy.
Dr. Pompa:
Hey, I told you this before I was in there. Got to bring True Cellular Detox to your clinic.
Dr. West:
I agree.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, exactly. It'll take everything to the next level. The ozone, I've heard more and more about the—you do ozone, pulling blood out through ozone, but the rectal ozone, I've heard just how effective it is for multiple things. There's so many gut issues and gut problems. It's very effective for that.
Listen, Doc, thank you for being on. I know that we have so many people in chronic pain out there that are just going to resonate to the show. Give them how to get your clinic. Give them your information because many of them will want to get on an airplane and get up there. That's for sure.
Dr. West:
You guys, my contact information is—the website is www.westcliniconline.com. I'm really also proud of the fact that I have almost 800 video testimonials of patients that basically are out of hope, out of resources, out of options. They're on my video blog called the Daily Dose Vitamin H, so www.dailydosevitaminh.com, and we have—obviously, we're over on Facebook. We're in the booming metropolis of Pocatello, Idaho, which people always ask—I've been asked multiple times how come you're not in Chicago; how come you're not in Dallas; how come you're not in LA or Atlanta? My response is I like it here. -inaudible- where I live. West Clinic online, Daily Dose Vitamin H. Phone number is 208-232-3216, and I love working with people who have chronic, unresolved conditions because I really do expect miracles for them.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, absolutely. Thank you, Doc. I'm sure you'll get some calls; no doubt about it.
Meredith:
Awesome.
Dr. Pompa:
Meredith.
Meredith:
Yeah, well, in closing—so Dr. West, we always like to end the shows with three key take-home points for our viewers and listeners to improve their cellular health, so what would be those three key points that you'd like to share?
Dr. West:
First thing is to put your body on a schedule. I think bodies really crave order, to schedule to go to bed at the same time, get up at the time. The more healthy and alive your food is, the more healthy and alive you are. Getting enough water, communicating with yourself, I think those are all lifestyle. I think it's really important for everybody to be on a liposome or really absorbable Vitamin C, Vitamin D3, and essential fatty acid in the mineral formula. Then the most important thing is communicate with yourself and I think it's really, really important to have a healthy inner circle and make sure you're giving back to the world and forgive all. Leave the—unforgiveness creates enormous barriers to healing. I encourage everybody—that doesn't mean you have to accept who's ever offended or bothered you, but if you forgive all, I think it's an enormous component of healing both the cells, the tissues, the organs, and the systems.
Dr. Pompa:
Boy, I agree with that, too.
Meredith:
Amen, awesome. Well, wonderful take-home points. Thanks again, Dr. West, for bringing all of your brilliance to Cellular Healing TV. Thank you, Dr. Pompa, as usual, and thanks, everyone for listening, for watching. We're so grateful for you. Have a wonderful weekend and
