Transcript of Episode 215: Healing The Mind and Body with Spirituality
With Dr. Daniel Pompa and Luke Storey
Dr. Pompa:
You all are going to love my guest today. His name is Luke Storey. I can tell you this; he has an incredible story. You are in for a treat today. As a matter of fact, he is known as the Life Stylist and actually has a podcast such. We'll make sure we give you the link to his podcast. I was actually on his podcast and enjoyed my time there. Luke and I meet—I believe it was the Bulletproof Conference, wasn't it?
Luke Storey:
Yeah, that's correct. What's funny, Dan, about that recording that we did for those listening, we recorded it in the green room at a corporate conference.
Dr. Pompa:
We did.
Luke Storey:
There was maybe 80 people running around there. It was really loud. We did a great interview. It was very focused and concise. Then I was really concerned that the sound was going to suck because—
Dr. Pompa:
I was, too.
Luke Storey:
I swear to God, you could not hear anyone in the background. It sounded like we were in a studio. Not only did the recording come out good, but people loved your episode, so thanks again for coming on. It was a very popular episode and very well received. People really loved it.
Dr. Pompa:
I appreciate you being on. You have a lot to share today. Wow, what a story you have, Luke Storey. I said that with a little pun there, but couldn't help myself. When you look at The Life Stylist, people understand that more because you were the celebrity stylist for 17 years. I think most of my viewers would understand Aerosmith, Ozzy Osbourne. Kim Kardashian, there I picked up the younger generation. Foo Fighters. There's a long list of stars that you were the stylist for. Okay, with that said, how in the world did you end up here? Now, you have an amazing story because you were a heroin addict, right? If I’m correct.
Luke Storey:
Yes, that's correct.
Dr. Pompa:
Alcohol and crack addict at age 26. Dude, look at you now, man. You are a world changer. You really are. I'm just going to bust right into it. Man, you've got to tell that story from that to the Stylist, to the addict, to that. I want you to talk a little bit about addiction.
Luke Storey:
Sure.
Dr. Pompa:
I tell you, man; this is an area that I think needs more attention today, especially with the younger generation. We're going to tap into that today on the show. We're also going to tap into some really cool biohacking for those of us that live in cities. Listen, Luke's got some cool answers. We're going to talk about that. Luke, we've got to bust right into your story, man, because it's an incredible one. Go ahead.
Luke Storey:
I love telling my story because it's one I never get sick of. Maybe either because I'm narcissistic or just because it's a great story. It really is a hero's journey, man. My parents divorced when I was really young. I went with mom. The environment growing up with her, which was in northern California was—we lived in really low-income areas and no money. There was a lot of crime and drugs. It was in northern California in the '70s. A lot of the hippies from Haight-Ashbury migrated into Sonoma County and became bikers and drug addicts. It was not a healthy environment. I experienced a fair amount of trauma, and abuse, and things like that as a really young kid. I think just as a convergence of the trauma I experienced and the early exposure to that drug culture, I got really heavily involved in drugs. That was my medicine and I self-medicate. There wasn't an abundance of therapy and the things that are available now if you were a screwed-up kid. It was looked at more as just that you had disciplinary problems and that you were a juvenile delinquent. You were just put in special classes and tucked away. My way of coping with the shame that I experienced and just the way that I felt difference than the other kids—I just never really fit in and just had all these problems in school and learning. I don't know that I officially have a learning disability, but definitely didn't learn—
Dr. Pompa:
I did.
Luke Storey:
—in the way in which the schools at that time were teaching. I couldn't sit in my sit.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah listen, I was a dyslexic, so a lot of my wounds and traumas literally stemmed from that. I have to say it's part of the reason why I'm able to help the people I help. My son is ADD and dyslexic. He is the kid that you just spoke off. We live in Park City, Utah, so we get a lot of California influence here, man. I can tell you; my kids remind me, “Dad, it's most of the kids.” It's very rare that a kid's not doing drugs and it is the California influence. I feel that right here personally.
Luke Storey:
Yeah, I'm sure it's much worse now. I can only imagine. I'm already terrified to have kids because of the kind of kid I was. Anyway, fast forwarding, that was my coping mechanism, and so I became horribly addicted to drugs at a really young age. Eight, nine years old, I started not only just smoking pot like maybe some experimental kids would, but doing really hard drugs. Was lucky enough to get a break from that for two years. I was having problems with the law. I got arrested and sent away to this school in Idaho. I cleaned up for a couple years in there. Luckily, I got a glimpse at some personal development, and psychology, and was in group therapy and things like that. It straightened me out for a couple years, but I got out in 1986 and proceeded to just go back downhill again.
Moved to Hollywood when I was 19 and wanted to be a musician. I started playing bands in the late '80s, early '90s. Hollywood was even more decrepit than it is now if you can imagine that. I got really caught up in the underworld of just the Hollywood drug scene. Had some fun, and did my little music thing and all of that, but ultimately, just became completely dysfunctional, and just an absolute wreck of a human being. By the time I was 26, that had all come to a head. It's not that I ended up getting beat up, or arrested, or in the hospital, I just reached this point of just inner turmoil that was so great that I made the decision to check myself into a treatment center. I did that at 26 years old. It was in 1997.
That's when I was introduced into the world recovery and an open-minded approach to spirituality. That was when my journey began. That was 21 years ago now. What happened for me and how it relates to biohacking, and health, and all of that was that I realized pretty quickly a) that I was very toxic, speaking of what you do with the detoxing and all. Physically, I had a lot of cleansing to do, but I also just had a lot of soul cleansing to do, man. I was so full of anger, and anxiety, and self-hatred, and other hatred. I was so insecure and self-conscious. I had no coping skills because the way that I had coped with life and my emotions and all of that up until 26 was by just numbing everything constantly with the drugs that we mentioned and a few other ones. Here I am 26, I pop out of rehab, and I have the emotional intelligence of a ten-year-old. I've got this physical toxicity where I'm still just pouring drug residue out of every pore in my body.
Then having to really find meditation and a spiritual approach to life. Then began the process of purifying myself essentially. That's what I've been doing for the past 21 years is really refining the mind/body/spirit approach to healing. I always say that you can't have one without the other. I could have gotten physically clean. Done some fasting, some colonics, whatever the juice cleanses and things that were in vogue in the mid-'90s. I could have done all that, but still been full of anger. I could have gone to therapy and worked on my anger, and anxiety, and depression, and all of those things, but still be eating McDonald's, and then fall apart physically. I started to piece together what now is just the core of the lifestyle that I lead and help other people discover now.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, and I want to talk about some of that. I brought up these names in the beginning. I'm sure my viewers are like please ask him more about how did he end up being a stylist to the stars. You even started your own stylist school. I’ve got to hear a little bit about Aerosmith, Ozzy Osbourne.
Luke Storey:
Yeah, no problem.
Dr. Pompa:
How did you from the addict to that? My gosh, you’ve really put your life together. How did you find that—obviously you're massively gifted there. What was that transition like and what was that like doing that?
Luke Storey:
Good question. I sometimes forget about that part of the story because it was miraculous. A lot of it was just destiny, fate, karma, luck. What happened was when I was 26, and I got out of that treatment center, and I started to work on myself and do the things that I continue to do today. I had this one lucky break and that was really the catalyst for my career that would go on to last 17 years working in Hollywood. What happened was I had an old friend named Keki Mingus who’s incidentally the daughter of famed jazz musician, Charles Mingus, which is an interesting side note. I had met her and she taught me a lot about music, and pop culture, and art, and fashion, and things like that. We dated briefly when I was in my early 20s. Then she ended that because I was such a screw up basically. She was considerably older than me. What happened was when I got sober, I reached out to her and said, “Hey, by the way, I got sober,” and just caught up with her. I happened to be homeless at the time. Not like sleeping under the freeway, but just bouncing from place to place. I was newly sober. I had given up my apartment because it was just a bad environment in that building and stuff. I didn't want to fall back into my old ways.
It just so happened that she was going on tour with Tina Turner because she was the fashion stylist. Somebody who dresses celebrities, and models, and things like that. Some people don't even know what a stylist is. They think you're a designer, so just to clarify that. A fashion designer is someone who designs, and manufactures, and makes clothes for people. A stylist is somebody who shops for clothes and dresses people. That is a distinction that might be useful. She said, “Listen, I'm going to be gone the whole summer on tour. I need someone to house sit for me and watch my dog. She had me to that while she was gone. I literally almost killed her dog. I almost burned the—it’s too long of a story, but I almost killed the dog. I almost burned the apartment down. It was just a complete disaster.
She came back in town, and because she had just moved to LA and she didn't know anyone, I was literally the only person she knew here. She came back in town and she booked Aerosmith as a client. She looked around was like, “Wow, I need an assistant. The only person I know is this knucklehead that's been destroying my apartment for three months.” I had been doing some errands for here and acting as a quasi-assistant as screwed up as I was just because I was brain dead from all the drugs. She booked Aerosmith and was just in a jam, so she hired me because she was just forced to out of her circumstances. Here I am, six months out of rehab. I can literally barely tie my shoes. I've got this 1982 Toyota Tercel that I'm cruising around in it. I had no money. I had nowhere to live. Now, I'm hanging out working for Aerosmith. It was a really strange experience, especially because I was a musician also. I was playing in bands. Aerosmith, I grew up in the '70s as I said; Aerosmith was everything. It was a very surreal experience. What makes the story even more interesting—and someday I hope to interview Steven Tyler on my show. He's one of my top 10 guys.
Dr. Pompa:
Right; yeah, he's cool.
Luke Storey:
Aerosmith were publicly sober at that time. That's when being sober was—to me at least—was very uncool. It was something that wasn't talked about a lot. Celebrities weren't publicly admitting that they were having issues in that area, let alone saying: hey, it's really cool to go to rehab and being sober. I thought it was really square. I thought that people that were sober were nerds and losers. I didn't think that was cool at all. I wanted to have tattoos, and be in a band, and do my Hollywood thing. When I got hired by her, and I got to spend some time with Steven Tyler and the guys in that band, and I saw that they were really successful; they were wealthy; they were famous; they were super cool; and they were also sober. It was really inspiring to me.
I remember having the conversation with Steven Tyler one day—my boss was so cool. She knew I was a big fan, but I always played it cool. I didn't want to be like a super fan around them, so I acted professionally. I didn't really talk to them. I just tied their shoes and fixed their suit. Didn't really look them in the eyes. I was very insecure and shy at the same time, but she invited me over one day to Steven Tyler's bungalow at the hotel. “He's got a day off today. You should come over and hang with us.” I went and we drank O'Doul's, non-alcoholic beers. Just got to hang out for a couple of hours. I asked him what's it like to be sober? How do you play in a band? How do you write songs and go in the studio and do stuff you do because the only way I knew how to access my creativity was through drugs and alcohol. He explained to me how he did it. That in fact, you think that it's the drug and alcohol that are assisting you in the creativity, but really what eventually happens when it turns. He goes, “It actually kills your creativity.”
Dr. Pompa:
Yep.
Luke Storey:
Then we looked at people like Jimi Hendrix and thinking he was Jimi Hendrix because of the LSD. No, he was Jimi Hendrix because he was Jimi Hendrix. Ultimately, look what happened to him as a result. His creativity was not only stopped but so was his life.
Dr. Pompa:
What was the advice he gave you?
Luke Storey:
It's funny because I've pondered that. I've tried to remember what it was that he said. It's funny because I think sometimes people at that level, they're a little bit out of touch for what it's like for just your average person on the street. He said something to the effect of, “Man if I get stressed out, I go to my place in Maui. I just hike to the top of the mountain and I meditate.” Here I am 26, practically living in my '82 Tercel. That's great for you, dude.
Dr. Pompa:
What about getting his creativity though, man? How was he doing that? He obviously tapped back into his real creativity. Did he give you any pointers there because that's the question you asked? You were searching for that answer.
Luke Storey:
To be honest, it was quite a long time ago, so I don't remember the conversation verbatim. I do remember the whole Hawaii comment, which is a little unobtainable; not that useful at that stage in my life. What did stick with me in terms of being in a band, and creating, and being successful was that he also had—I remember he said, “Well, I got Joe Perry right next to me on stage, man. If I'm having a hard time performing or accessing that creativity, I know I've got some there who's on the same path,” because Joe Perry was also sober. They used to be called the toxic twins in the '70s because they were so drug-addled. I got the connection that you need to be around other people that are on the same path and on the same wavelength. What I did, I really took that advice, and I started playing in bands with other guys that were also in recovery and achieved over the years varying degrees of success. I never made it to where Aerosmith were, but I did get to go on tour, and travel to Europe a few times, and do some cool things in bands that your listeners have probably never heard of. That was how I got into fashion.
Then fast forward through the next like I said, 17 years to follow. I worked my way up the ranks working as an assistant under other stylists as I've mentioned. Then eventually started booking my own clients. Next thing you know, here I am 15 years after that, and I'm Marilyn Manson's stylist, working with the Foo Fighters, or Kayne West, or Kim Kardashian, or any these people. That was my day job. That's how that weirdness happened. I also played music for a considerable period of time while I was also a stylist. I looked at the styling thing as my day job and then music was the dream. Eventually, I just lost interest in the pursuit of music because—I always say, the thing about playing in a band that sucks is you have to be in a band with other musicians. Going on tour with a bunch of smelly guys in a band sounds cool until you actually do it. I was really into health, so when I would go on tour—I was a vegetarian at the time. We were traveling a lot in the UK. I couldn't find organic food or healthy food. The sleep suffered and things like that, so eventually, I got out of music.
Then I started my fashion school, School of Style, 10 years ago actually this year. Started training people how to do that, so I became an entrepreneur. I dropped out of high school. I don't have any education. I know nothing about business. I just taught myself and just figured it out. Had a good idea; had a good time. That business is still going and really is my main secure source of income as I build my podcast and my own brand that's taking off. Yeah, that’s still going. Then two years ago, I retired from being a stylist and started my podcast. That's the next part of the journey.
Dr. Pompa:
From pain to purpose, man. I always tell my docs who I'm working with look for your purpose in your pain. Here you are, man, living out your purpose; there's no doubt. Obviously, it started when you were sick. Pursuing health became part of your healing really. That's what led you to the things you're able to do. Let's dig in there. What were some of the—I want to know everything that worked, man. I want to know everything that worked. You've been around the planet, man. You're like me. I love looking at ancient cultures for answers. I'm a good study reader too. I'm going to tell you, I find probably even better answers when I look at the ancient cultures, what they did. You've had opportunity to travel the world, look at some of these things. I want to know what you found that work, that stuck. I would love for people to be asking that answer because what I teach is what stuck. I've been introduced to many things. I've saw many things. Tried many things. I have a group of doctors I try things with. What sticks is what I know works. What's stuck, man? You're a phenomenon. You really are. You’re a one percenter, not even a three percenter, so what stuck?
Luke Storey:
I love the pain to purpose. I don't know if I've ever heard it phrased that way. I think that first, you have to have the motivation. For most of us, whether it be spiritual pursuit, or physical health, or any part of personal improvement or development, I meet very few people that just go, you know what? I could probably do better. Usually, it takes a point of being motivated. I was highly motivated when I got sober because I was 26 and I felt like I was 86. The first things that I did—which is funny that you specialize in detox as one of your primary areas of focus because I found a guy named Dr. Richard Schulze, who’s a famous American Herbalist. He's got a company called American Botanical Pharmacy to this day. He was a big proponent of fasting. He was a big proponent of colon health and saunas. The first thing I did really to get into this was I started going seven-day fasts. I think I did a 21-day fast at some point. I became a vegetarian, which is another story. That didn't end up panning out for me, but I did that for a number of years.
I was eating a really inflammatory diet unbeknownst to me, but this is the '90s, too. People didn't know about paleo and stuff like that. On the food thing, just to digress a little bit, what happened to me during that time was there started to become a public awareness in the health scene about factory farms and the antibiotics and all the toxic meat industry. There was very little awareness about going to the Farmers’ Market, and grass-fed meat, and ghee, and healthy fats, and all that kind of stuff. The logical choice was like well, meat is all bad for you, so we just better just stop all meat. There’s metals in the fish and all that stuff. I didn't even know that there was a place in the middle there, which I eventually found. You can eat animal products and be healthy. Unfortunately, in the beginning years, I was still eating a lot of corn, and soy, and wheat, and these inflammatory foods that I really avoid like the plague now.
Anyway, back to what worked that I still do was the fasting, the detoxing, doing liver purges, gallbladder flushes. Specific organ cleansing that I learned mostly from Dr. Schulze at the time. He worked a lot with just wild crafted American herbs and things like that.
Dr. Pompa:
By the way, I believe all of these. Detox is critical for addiction. I feel like in the addiction world, they look at detox as lock you in a room and keep you away from the drug. Oh yeah, your body detoxes, my God. It can just -inaudible-. The detox really goes beyond that. You don't get rid of that true addiction and craving until you get rid of the toxins that have bioaccumulated in your flesh because your body’s still tasting it, feeling it. There's neurological pathways that are still craving it. You have to empty the bucket so to speak. Then you have to re-neurologically pattern. All the stuff that you're going to talk about, man, is all part of that.
Luke Storey:
You're so right. That's the thing, from the model of a drug treatment center, the terminology they use it's like put you in detox. You're going into detox. Really, what they're doing in most cases is giving you drugs to get off the drugs. Now, you have your fancy rehabs in Malibu where they do yoga, and meditation, and sound baths, and do all kinds of physical cleanses. I'm sure they've come a long way. Yeah, when I was in rehab, it's like you just went in their cold turkey and that was your detox. What you're talking about with the cellular detox and really getting all that stuff out is and was absolutely crucial.
Interesting story really quick is I recently was having some physical issues last year. A lot of stuff that I had discovered through some lab tests that I had going on. My God, just colon infections and all kinds of nastiness, which I cleared up with an herbal protocol. I thought well, while I'm at it, I just want to do a deep cleanse. I did this adapted Al-anon covered niacin sauna—
Dr. Pompa:
Oh, yeah. I know of it, yeah.
Luke Storey:
I did it to the letter, super hardcore. By the end of the 30 days, I was up to like 3,000 mg niacin. I set myself on a schedule. I'm pretty good at compliance at this point. What was interesting is when I read the Scientology—the original book that context was taken from, even though I'm not a Scientologist by any stretch. They use it in their Narconon Program to get people off drugs. It's actually a true detox, not just I’m going to take you off heroin and give you some barbiturates to get you off heroin. They get people off drugs by the method that you're saying by getting it all out of the system. In that book, it's written in the '70s or something, so the [languaging] is really antiquated. They said watch out if you've done a lot of psychedelics when you release those molecules from your fat cells, which is what the niacin does. It -inaudible-.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it’s a dilate.
Luke Storey:
They said you could have like an acid flashback or something. I'm like I've been sober 21 years. There's no way that's going to happen. One night, at about two, three weeks into that cleanse, I did my thing that day. Took my sauna and whatever. Then I went to bed. I was lying in bed and I started tripping out. This lucid dream, I wasn't asleep; I wasn't awake. I thought this is really strange. I wouldn't go so far as to—it would be an exaggeration to say I was hallucinating, but I was definitely having an altered state of consciousness randomly out of the blue. I thought what the hell is going on? I'm really tripping out right now. Then the next day I thought you know what? Wow, I bet I did set free some of those molecules that had been bound up however many years ago. Turned them loose into my bloodstream and felt a little bit funky.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that's why I always tell it's not months, it's years for detox. That stuff is that deep, man. That's a proof positive. I have to tell you; I'll embarrass myself and tell my story. I was in Jamaica. I wasn't the drug interest kid and my friends were more than I. Yet, they convinced me to go to Mrs. Brown's famous mushroom omelet place. I went. It's a public place. How bad could the mushrooms—they said, “Oh, you'll laugh. It will be fun.” It's a public place. I ate the omelet, but the problem was my girlfriend, I ate half of hers because I was really hungry. I didn't think of this as a drug. I'm at a mushroom omelet place and it's famous. I also drank the tea, the mushroom tea. The bottom line is 30 minutes later, I didn't feel anything. Forty minutes later, I literally went through every one of my personalities as I recall it. It became a funny thing and it went to a really scary thing. I'll just say it that way. If you know me personal, ask me for the details, but it was not good. I think I could have killed myself.
Here's my point really is that as I started detoxing later, not from that, but from mercury and other heavy metals, I felt some of those symptoms, man. I dug into some of those toxic chemicals. Arguably, those are natural chemicals, but they had bioaccumulated, man, in my brain. When I got to brain phase, and I started getting it out, I felt some of that. It was really freaky to me. I realized what was happening. I was digging into some of those chemicals. It just shows you how this stuff—every toxin from years in our life is bioaccumulated in our flesh, man, in our deep tissue, in our deep cells.
Today, talk a little bit about EMFs. You've become an expert in this area as well: grounding, EMFs, blue lights. These are all new toxins today. Kids are taking more drugs and more toxic drugs than ever. Then they're also getting exposed to this and even a chemical, glyphosate. Talk a little bit about that because that became something that stuck for you. These are changes that you did. You're talking about them, so those are things that stuck, too. Talk about some of those.
Luke Storey:
Sure, so moving on after just getting rid of the old residual toxins through the fasting, and colon cleansing, and saunas, and all that kind of stuff, then moving into more modern times and recent discoveries was in a similar way that you're talking about the ancient cultures. Looking at how did we get here, and who were the -inaudible-. I haven't even gone that deep into the Weston Price stuff and all of that. I look at things from a very nature-based, holistic, simplistic point of view. I'm not really science-minded. I'm very broad scope, zoomed out. I just look at a couple different things, alright. A) let's just talk about light. I've been reading Jack Kruise a couple times.
Dr. Pompa:
I did, too.
Luke Storey:
He was very scientifically really deep into the light. To me, it's like that's interesting to a certain type of mind. I don't need to know all that. I just need to look at how we've evolved. The blue light issue is very simple. Up until the incandescent bulb, like 1870 something I think is when we started using artificial light. Up until that point, you've got to think about a couple hundred thousand years, or you could arguably say a couple million years, however long this version of the human's been around, the only light we see at night is starlight, moonlight, and firelight. That's how we got here. The body is designed, the eye, the brain, everything in your biology is designed to go dark, or to go red, or amber once the sun goes down. With the modern convenience of artificial lighting and some of the artificial lighting be extremely artificial because the color spectrum is so narrow as compared to the sun. Of course, the sun is a rainbow spectrum of light frequencies in it, right?
Dr. Pompa:
Perfect balance.
Luke Storey:
Yeah, so everything in nature is created by the creature; whatever that means to you. Anytime we deviate from creation, there's going to be destruction. That's how I just look at things in very simple grass roots—
Dr. Pompa:
Me, too, man. I look at it that way, too.
Luke Storey:
I started looking at the light thing. I thought how can I adapt? Then this science started coming out to back that up that has to do with melatonin, and neurotransmitters, and hormones, and all this stuff that your audience I'm sure has heard about. If not, you can geek out with someone like you or Jack Kruise that can really give you some more of the science. To me, it's just like so if it gets dark outside, and I'm in my home, or I'm out, how can I mimic what's going on outside while still harnessing the conveniences such as incandescent lighting, indoor lighting, devices, computers, etc? A couple things that I've done to mitigate that are as follows: I wish we could turn the camera around in my place here. When I moved into this apartment, I really wanted to biohack it. What I did for the lighting is I have essentially in every room there's two sets of lighting modes. There's daytime lighting that is a full spectrum incandescent bulb that I managed to find.
Dr. Pompa:
Where do you by them because I—
Luke Storey:
On Amazon. If you search for—man, I forget the brand name offhand. If you just go in Amazon and you search full spectrum incandescent bulbs, you'll find these lights that have the full range that the sun has. They're ones that keep you awake and alert. I use them sometimes for seasonal affective disorder. They're like daytime bulbs. If you live in Scandinavia, you use these during the day because it's dark all the time. If I want lighting during the day, I've got bright full spectrum bulbs. I have a decent amount of sun; I'm in LA. The real key is I have another set of light switches or lamps in the house that are all amber or red bulbs. I just have habituated myself to hit certain switches after dark and there's certain switches that I just don't hit.
In my bathroom, for example, there's one overhead, really nasty blue LED that's in the fan. Sometimes I need to see though, but I just know at night, I just hit the other button that has the vanity lights that are two orange bulbs. It looks weird at first. It takes a little getting used to, but now, the whole house turns nice and golden amber or red at night. That's been incredible for my sleep. It's also something that people really notice when they come over. They're like wow, your place is so chill. It's so relaxing. They don't know why, but their nervous system starts to tone down. They start to produce melatonin. They stop producing cortisol. They don't know the mechanisms of action, but they just go: God, it feels really good in here. It's really good energy. I'm like yeah, it's because I'm not recreating noontime sun at 11:00 PM when we come back from dinner.
Dr. Pompa:
It's true. We were sitting in our living room last night. At night, we never use the overhead lights. We use the lamps that have the better bulb. Again, every night I'll stand in front of the Juve light, which is the red—
Luke Storey:
I've got one right here. I love that.
Dr. Pompa:
Exactly, yeah, and it resets your whole biochemistry for bed. Anyways, for whatever reason, we were looking for something. Anyways, those lights got on. My son looked around. He's like, “God, I hate these lights.” I'm like, “Yeah, this is a bad—I gave him an example because he was telling how he feels. He's like, “Gosh, it feels so cold. It feels so—it was feel, feel, feel. I'm like, “Yeah, because there's a frequency. There's a wavelength that's not normal there. That's why I keep those off.” I don't ever use those things. They just happened to go on for whatever reason last night. I'm telling you; it's like those lights, man, they make you feel a certain way man. My son, who knew none of the science or didn't even care to know the science said, “I don't like these lights.”
Luke Storey:
Wow, isn’t that insane.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, he felt like that. It's like yeah, that's why they're never one.
Luke Storey:
That's amazing. God, he's so fortunate to have a dad like you that's conscious of some of these things. I think once a kid is habituated a certain way, it's probably hard to get them to reverse, especially, when they hit the rebellious stage.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, so that's one biohack, man. There's others because then there's the—okay, so lights are a big deal. They really are. Let me tell you something just to reiterate kids today especially. I tell my wife to stop it, too. The screens, I have protective things called Iris. You can download Iris and I use it—
Luke Storey:
I love Iris.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, and I use it on—there's one called [Flox]. You can use them on your screens so they give you a protection against the blue light. Still, we don't want to look at these screens right before—a few hours before bed because it's going to disrupt your melatonin production and obviously, disrupt your Delta sleep. I'll remind my listeners and viewers, It's Delta sleep—because you're going to say well, I get good sleep. I love the Oura Ring. I'm waiting for the new one by the way. It actually goes off. You can put it on airplane mode.
Luke Storey:
Yes, that's the thing. I have mine, but I don't wear it during the day because I don't want Bluetooth hitting my bloodstreams.
Dr. Pompa:
No, their new one—you could put it on airplane mode, but it would click itself back on. The new one, because Joe Mercola really just hammered them on it, so their new one I like the style of it better too, but it will stay on airplane mode. You can wear it all night, and then just take it off, and then download it. Then you can see your results. The point being this. You can actually now measure these things. You can do this light thing. Is it bull crap or not? Do the light thing and then check your Delta sleep because this stuff interferes with your Delta sleep. In that deep sleep, that's where you recover. That's also where you brain actually detoxes, so there's other purposes for it too. It's a big deal. People go: I sleep through the night. I say, “Fine.” Then you measure your Delta sleep and you realize you got 20 minutes of Delta sleep. That can be a problem—or five minutes. When I got the ring, I realized things I did, no doubt was affecting my Delta sleep.
Luke Storey:
For sure.
Dr. Pompa:
Like people drink. If I have over a certain amount of glasses of wine, my Delta sleep does this, so that's a motivator for me to stay at one or two glasses. Dry Farm Wines, I can definitely have a few more of those. Let me tell you something. You can test your life and actually watch these parameters change. Lights are one of them. Grounding, dude, is another one. That's another big factor. People need to ground their sleeping, their beds. Talk a little bit about that.
Luke Storey:
I'd love to. I just want to interject one thing. I'm actually pissed that Dry Farm Wines came out after I got sober.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I'm talking about Dry Farm Wines and drinking, and I'm talking to a guy who's sober here. I apologize for that.
Luke Storey:
It's funny. I know Todd.
Dr. Pompa:
I'm going to get emails going: Dr. Pompa was very insensitive to his—I'm sorry. I know Luke well enough that we can chat like this.
Luke Storey:
I live in Hollywood. People smoke weed like cigarettes here. It doesn't bother me at all. I'm half way joking, and I'm like I wish I could just try good biodynamic organic lymphocyte free wine, just because it probably tastes amazing. Anyway, I digress. One last thing I want to cover on the lighting I think would be useful for your audience is there's a company called True Dark. They make some blue light blocking glasses. They're just something very unique that's really cool. They're not the most stylish, but the really block. They have a few different shades depending on what time of day it is. They have a really dark red one for the last couple hours before sleep that not only blocks the blue light but also the green light. That's the thing with a lot of these cheap amber glasses, or even the amber bulbs, you're still getting a considerable amount of green light which suppresses melatonin to a degree. What they did that was also unique is they have little inserts in them so you can get prescription lens put inside, which I think it was really smart. More than anything, what they just put out are these things called—I think they call them panels. They're essentially like these sheets of red film, like a transparent film that you can get that you can put over an existing lighting fixtures like overhead fluorescent lighting in your kitchen.
Dr. Pompa:
Good point.
Luke Storey:
Yeah, they're really cool, so I just like to give them a shout out. I interviewed their CEO.
Dr. Pompa:
Say it again. Say the website again.
Luke Storey:
True Dark.
Dr. Pompa:
True Dark; yeah, that's the glasses I have as well. I didn't know they had that film though.
Luke Storey:
Yeah, I interviewed Chris Keene the other day. He told me about it. I was like, “Oh, this is amazing.” I started recommending it to clients and stuff. That's one intervention that you can do in terms of manipulating the lighting in your office or work is you can actually just get that film and cut it to size. Say you have recessed lighting in your kitchen and you can't get to those bulbs, you can literally just put film over whatever lighting you have. You'll also kill the green as well with this film. That's just one last thing on the lighting.
The other thing with grounding is—and I'm going to go back to nature in that how we talked about the cycles of light, the moon, and the sun, and the earth are all in a certain position that have been put that way by an intelligent force. There's a reason why and our biology is corresponding to the solar system. Our body is also corresponding to the earth's magnetic field and to the abundance of free electrons that are present when you touch the earth. If you think about every single living sentient creature on the planet since the beginning of time lives their entire life grounded with the exception of birds in flight or migration. When a bird lands in a tree, it's grounded. If you picture a turtle who's in water, it's grounded. When a deer is walking around the forest, it's grounded. Ad infinitum, you can't give me one example of an animal that not grounded because animals don't use rubber shoes and they don't use rubber-tired cars. We, unfortunately, with the advent of sneakers, which are great and handy, and the advent of cars, and elevated living spaces—oh, look at that puppy.
Dr. Pompa:
You talked about grounded animals and I had to bring her out.
Luke Storey:
That's a grounding device right there.
Dr. Pompa:
She hasn't been on Cell TV in a long time, so this is good.
Luke Storey:
I love dogs. I was thinking about getting one. You know what I heard on that note and I don't know if this is true or if this is some woohoo stuff, but I read somewhere that your animals actually pick up a negative charge when they're outside. They carry it and that when you pet your animals, you get grounded. Please someone scientifically qualified look into that for me.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I don’t know. I haven't looked into that.
Luke Storey:
It definitely feels really good when you touch an animal. When you pet a dog, is it just the love, or is there something biochemical, or electric going on?
Dr. Pompa:
I always say I get an Oxytocin boost. Oxytocin's the love hormone. It's a feel-good hormone and a love hormone. Went I touch my puppies, man, I get the boost of Oxytocin. There we go.
Luke Storey:
That's great.
Dr. Pompa:
I even talk different.
Luke Storey:
I do that, too. When I talk to dogs, I talk to them like a baby. “Hey there, puppy.”
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, you can't help it, man.
Luke Storey:
Back to the grounding thing. Let's just apply common sense. If all creatures, human and otherwise, spend their entire life electrically grounded to the planet in one way or another, then nature must have made this whole thing up to be that way. If I live in a second story apartment in LA, or I live in the 54th floor in New York City, where ever I am, I'm disconnected from the health benefits of the earth. I don't want to go live out in the forest and sleep on the ground. I like living in a nice apartment. I like driving my BMW around with rubber tires. I'm really into the convenience. I love my cell phone, my computers. I love technology. I'm a huge tech geek. What I've done to mitigate that is I have little grounding pads. In fact, my foot's been on one. I went away from the mic there for a minute. I can't quite get it to reach the camera, but my barefoot's been on my grounding pad for the entire conversation. I have a very narrow little panel that my feet touch that is on my bed that's plugged into the ground outside my bedroom window. I literally ran a ground wire with a copper spike, drilled it into a wet piece of dirt behind my apartment building, and I'm grounded electrically while I sleep.
Dr. Pompa:
By the way, isn't that the best way? There's other grounding mats, but when you truly run the wire out the window. That's what I've heard is the best.
Luke Storey:
Yeah, it's funny. I talk to a lot of EMF experts. Some of them think grounding is BS; some of them think it's great. You could talk to 10 Ph.D. physicists, electricians, whatever. They're all going to give you a different answer. To me, I'm just going with nature. I'm going to do whatever I can. Yeah, I would prefer to have the ground wire going outside into the actual ground. That said, it could be argued that there's dirty electricity in the ground in Los Angeles because there's freaking electricity running all through in between houses and apartments because it's just so densely populated -inaudible- wiring, etc. I'm stilling going to just opt for the best possible option and that's to be grounded. Second option like the one that I have my foot on now is just in the ground plug in the outlet of the wall, which I'm presuming that this building is wired correctly so that outlet is grounded and there's actually a ground wire going down into the earth underneath the foundation.
Dr. Pompa:
There is, yeah.
Luke Storey:
Yeah, and actually I've tested the outlets in here. They are in fact properly grounded. Every once in a while, you get in a really old building and it only has the little two-prong plug. You don't have the opportunity to ground there. If I'm sitting in the living room, I have a little pad. I have one on my bed. I have one at my computer. I've taken it a step further and I've I grounded my car. There's a lot of EMF. Also, just time and space drag when you're in a car or an airplane for that matter, where you’re traveling through time and space faster than you're meant to essentially. You pick up static electricity. Then you also pick up static electricity in a positively charge from the interior of your car from all the electronics, the seat heaters, all that crap.
What I did is I got this grounding strap. It's called a Mitzer, M-I-T-Z-E-R. I believe you can get them on Amazon. It's called a Mitzer. It's a conductive rubber strap. It's about maybe 12 to 15 inches long, about an inch wide. You get that by a mechanic wired to the frame of your car because the frame of your car is grounded to your battery. When that grounding strap is touching concrete, or dirt, or something other than asphalt, your car is actually electrically grounded. What's weird is that they use them on city buses and different utility vehicles to get good gas mileage. It's really bizarre. I don't know how it works. It's beyond my capacity for reason, but I've seen them on buses. Then I started inquiring. They said, “Oh yeah, it's for gas mileage because it keeps—the battery grounds to concrete, to the street. Then I have a little conductive wrist strap that's been wired to the frame of my car underneath my seat. That's connected to the battery, too. Unless I'm on asphalt when I'm driving around, I'm actually grounded, too. It might be in my head and a placebo thing, but I swear to God, I get less fatigued driving around when I'm grounded than when I'm ungrounded.
Dr. Pompa:
What about flying because it would arguably be—jet-lagged arguably is part of—it's part of the jet-lagged story really.
Luke Storey:
With that, I've heard Mercola and Jack Kruise both talk about when you're in the seat and you have the opportunity to put your bare feet on a metal seat in front of you, that you're grounded to the grounded electrical system in the plane, so at least you're grounded to their system. You're not just free-floating and picking up that static electricity. Obviously, a plane isn't—because I've had people call me out on social media: you idiot, how can a plane be grounded? I go, “I know it's not grounded grounded, but the electrical system is grounded to itself however that works.” Now, what I do because I'm really particular about flying—I'm just tall and I have back problems. I can't sit in a coach seat. I'm not trying to be fancy, but I'll literally just wait to take a trip until I get at least business, if not first class. I'm 47; I can't be sitting in the back of the plane. I just can't do it. I really have a hard time with traveling. The seats that I fly in never have a metal seat that I can touch with my foot. It's too far away. Usually, they're covered by plastic in those nicer seats anyway. What I did is I plugged my little grounding wrist strap. It's called an Anti-Static Wrist Strap. You can get those on Amazon, also. There's also a great site called lessemf.com.
Dr. Pompa:
I use it. Yeah, I use it all the time.
Luke Storey:
I actually plug into the outlet, to the ground plug in the outlet at my seat. I talked to Jack Kruise about that. He's a really bright guy. He's like, “You're insane. You shouldn't do that. You're going to pick up more EMFs than you disperse from your body.” I don't know. I still like it, so I'm still doing it, but the verdict is out on the plane grounding. I just follow my intuition. It makes sense to me that if I can at least be grounded to the plane itself, that's better than just free-floating at however many hundred miles an hour, 35,000 feet up. For the grounding stuff, I've hit it pretty hard. I'm still waiting for more research. I think why I opted for it instead of against it with the grounding is like right here sitting in front of this microphone, and my big iMac computer, my preamp, and everything. If had an EMF meter that was a skin voltage meter, I'd be off the charts. The minute I put one pinkie toe on my grounding mat, it goes to zero.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I'd argue with that.
Luke Storey:
The argument against my theory of grounding is that what's happening is the electrical charge that's coming off of my computer is finding me as a human ground. It's using me as a conduit to get itself grounded into the earth under my apartment building. That's one school of thought. The other school of thought, which I tend to lean more towards, is that the field that's coming from the earth upward, coming up under the building into my grounding pad, and up through my body, is actually pushing the EMFs away from me. That's my field goes to zero with the skin voltage meter. In other words—
Dr. Pompa:
Couldn't you take—I have the TES 593. It's my EMF meter. Couldn't you take that—I've never done it. I should try it. You just gave me the idea, but take it and see if the EMF drops.
Luke Storey:
If you have the skin voltage meter, you can literally like I said, put your pinkie toe on a grounding sheet or a grounding pad and it'll go to zero. Whereas it's—
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I'm just wondering if it's pushing back like you said.
Luke Storey:
Oh, I see what you're saying; okay.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, pushing back EMF into the device. I'm saying you could literally measure that. I never thought to do that.
Luke Storey:
Yeah, this is one piece of the grounding, the EMF thing that I—literally every guy I talk to that they're brilliant people. They all have a polarized opinion of it.
Dr. Pompa:
It's because it's new science. I think we're all discovering. The last couple years, I've been digging into this myself. I'm a slow adapter with certain things. I'm definitely that person that has to be convinced. I'm the person who not just I can read the science, but then I have to feel the feel. Then I have to see. Luckily, like you, I'm around a large group of people that we have ability to try different things. Again, it's what sticks. This is working; this isn't. Study's one thing, but what becomes real? Like you, I'm always asking people. I'm very curious. When I'm convinced; man, I'm convinced. I'm full in. Getting me totally convinced is another story.
Luke Storey:
I think for me, it’s like I said, it's just common sense. You look at the blue light thing, look at the solar cycle. I'm just going to follow the solar cycle like it's a no-brainer. You look at grounding; oh, we're meant to be touching the planet, or a body of water, or a plant, or something being electrically grounded, so why not stay like that? It's just very broad strokes.
Dr. Pompa:
We're really testing our bodies today. Adaptability is everything with health; finding homeostasis to even take it more scientific. That is the testimony to health. The better the life we live, the more toxic-free, or interference free that we are, the better that our bodies can adapt. Therefore, people can say, well, I'm exposed to these [blikes] and I'm still very healthy. Your body’s adapting now, but through a few other stressors in.
Luke Storey:
Right.
Dr. Pompa:
Through some emotional stressors in your life. Through some more toxic stressors in your life. All of a sudden now, the light that you were adapting to, now your body is not adapting. You're in bad lights for the day; you go outside, your body has an ability to fix itself; it does. The moment you lose adaptation ability, now the sickness and the symptoms are coming. It never starts at that moment. It starts long before when your body stops the adaptation. The point is to regain health, we have to remove all these things that force our body to adapt. We have to remove as much of it as we can. No matter what, your body's adapting to things. We want to minimize these massive things that are able to control because so much of it, Luke, we're not able to control. That's the way I live my life. What can I control? Because therefore, the things I can't control, my body will then adapt to. Then, therefore, I won't end up having symptoms, or worse yet, sickness. That's my thought process with that. Go ahead; you were going to say something. I interrupted you.
Luke Storey:
Yeah, I like the fact that you brought up the word control because I think in the health space and specifically with people like me that are really—to me, biohacking is a hobby; it's a passion. I just love optimizing health. It's an obsession, but—
Dr. Pompa:
Me, too.
Luke Storey:
I also just enjoy it. I like the technology, the new gadgets. I'm always finding some new discovery. I could tell you five things I've found in the past year that have changed my life. It's exciting. Then there's the other side like you said, there's certain things that you can't control. I think that on the other side of it is with dietary obsession. Orthorexia can kick in, where now you're living in a bubble and the neurosis of the fear of being exposed to EMF and blue light.
Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely.
Luke Storey:
The fear is probably more toxic than the blue light—
Dr. Pompa:
I agree.
Luke Storey:
—at a certain point. As obsessed as I seem to some people, and as extreme as some of my measures are, I also take it with a grain of salt. Dude, every couple of months, I'd be driving by a donut shop. I just go you know what? I'm going to go eat four donuts. Just the most toxic gluten, glyphosate, just the worst fads-.
Dr. Pompa:
It is in my toxic top five.
Luke Storey:
I go out to a movie at midnight. It's blue light all over the place. I purposely do things sometimes, just to break the mold and get myself out of that control, fear-based mindset, and just go I'm going to die eventually, anyway. I would just prefer to die healthier because these things that might not harm me right now or I might be able to tolerate, are going to be accumulative. Then when I'm 80, I get this mysterious illness. I don't want to get a mysterious illness because it's been death by 1,000 cuts. I am going to mitigate some of these things.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, you will.
Luke Storey:
You also have to live your life. I don't want to be so rigid that I'm like a total control freak.
Dr. Pompa:
Listen, I agree with you. I totally agree. I live that balance because it's this, too. My diet variation strategy, which you should have me on your show talking about that. I have a very unique strategy. A very unique take I should say. It is a strategy and it works. Again, it helps people who can't lose weight, lose weight. It helps people who can't get well, get well. I have a really balanced approach with that, with the diet strategy. I think life with the light and everything, I want to minimize. I don't want my bucket to fill up again, so my thing is minimize it. Stressing about it to that point, that will fill my bucket, too. I believe that balance; I do.
Look, we are living in a different world. Most of my viewers today, they have to get their life back. Therefore, they have to pay attention to these EMFs. They have to pay attention to these things. Look, I just had someone who found out that they were sleeping next to where they put a darn smart meter on the outside of their house and they didn't know. Meanwhile, there's someone who's trying to get their life back. Literally, with me on the phone with them, they went outside. I said, “Well, if it's analog and moving like click, click, click, click, you’re good. If it's digital, you're not.” Nicolas, his book. He gave it to me, The Non-Tinfoil Guide—I love that—to EMFs. It was a great interview. It was on just a couple interviews here ago. He was the one that reminded my viewers to look at your smart meter, but one of my people did. It was a smart meter putting out massive EMF. Sure enough, a massive cause of why they weren't recovering the way they should.
Anyways, bottom line is today most of my viewers have to pay attention to these things because they have to empty the bucket so their body starts adapting. A final question here and a wrap-up. Number one, remind them how they get in touch with you, your podcast. As a preview to that, who are you interviewing? Tell us about your podcast a little bit. You're such a really interesting guy. You're that guy that's so easy for me to talk to and so we can go on and on. Who are you interviewing, man? What's the focus for your podcast, man? Then tell them how to get there.
Luke Storey:
The idea with my podcast is since I've retired from being a fashion stylist where you go out and you find this dress, and this handbag, and this jacket, and you put together this amalgam look for someone, I realized that's what I've been doing with my lifestyle for the past 21 years. I find the best supplement with DHA. I optimize the lighting. All the things that we've talked about is taking bits and pieces of truth and putting them together along with not only the physical, but the metaphysical, which is a huge part of my journey, and my life, and my wellbeing is my prayer life, my spiritual life, meditation, mindset.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, serves with me, too.
Luke Storey:
All of that. The idea with the show was to take all the people that I'm a fan of, you being one of them, and to bring all of these voices together from the physical and metaphysical, meaning health field and also from spirituality and personal development; even just mindset, which would be more in the personal development. Just to bring all those people together and translate their message in a way that's very relatable and applicable, so the average person can go yeah, that makes sense. I never thought about meditating in that way. I'll try it. That's my goal.
I've interviewed a pretty diverse range of people, as long as they qualify for me as someone that helps you build the ultimate lifestyle. I've interviewed music mogul, Russell Simmons, who's a famous Yogi and a meditator. Also, one of the most successful entrepreneurs in—I think I Googled his network after the interview and it was like a zillion, trillion dollars. Just a really incredible, prolific guy. Of course, I've interviewed Dave Asprey from Bulletproof. I do a lot of stuff on relationships. I've interviewed John Gray, the author of Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus. Some really great information on hormones and just how men and women biologically relate to one another. I interviewed a meditation teacher who is world-renowned named Sharon Salzberg, who's a big Buddhist meditator and MicroMist teacher. Let me see, who have I done lately that's been exciting.
Also, I've interviewed people that have a different point of view. I interviewed Rich Roll who's a big podcaster. He's a vegan triathlete. He has a very strong case for the plant-based lifestyle. It's not one that I personally follow because it doesn't work for me, but it seems to be working for him and his following. I did want to get that different perspective. Then a lot of people just on psychology and things like that. Talking about things like NOP, and just mindset, and how to really get your mind right. My meditation teacher, Jeff Kober, who's like me, has an interesting double life. He's an actor that's been on The Walking Dead, and Sons of Anarchy, and things like that. He's also been studying, and practicing, and teaching Vedic Meditation for 20 years. We really dive deep into the actual real practice of meditation. I try to just reach from both of those worlds. I find that a lot of the people that are in the spiritual scene, I would never eat what's on their dinner plate. They're physically not fit.
Dr. Pompa:
This is a trip.
Luke Storey:
Then you have people that are really into fitness, and biohacking, and stuff. You meet them and they can't even be present or conscious in a conversation because they're too captured up in the intellect, and they haven't—
Dr. Pompa:
So true, Luke.
Luke Storey:
They lost that spiritual connection. Just because it's what I had to do at first for my own survival as a recovering addict, and then later just having reaped so many rewards of exploring my whole personhood in all those different areas, I'm attracted to the experts in all of that range as it pertains to adding principals to your life. In other words, finding truths, learning how to apply them, and then not just learning about them, so you have an intellectual knowledge or understanding, but then doing it. I'm sure you understand compliance as a doctor. You can teach someone about something all day long, but will they actually do it? The goal of my show and my whole message is to present things in a way that people can go yeah, that's actually doable. I can change a few light bulbs.
Oh, speaking of light bulbs, one more trick. If you change the lighting in your house and you put in amber and red bulbs, don't forget about the refrigerator. Yeah, because you'll have the whole place red and amber. It's all beautiful. Your melatonin is just cranking after a date. Then you open that fridge and it's like noon sunlight blasting you in the face. What I did is I put an orange LED bulb in my refrigerator. You open it up and it looks like the briefcase in Pulp Fiction when they open it up.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, and maybe that film. You can get that film because some people: I can't get the bulb out. Okay, good; put the film over it.
Luke Storey:
Yeah, some of them aren't as easy to change. I have a very basic fridge, so mine's just a little round bulb, but yeah. Things like that, someone doesn't have to be a neuroscientist or a Ph.D. to get okay, wow, when it gets dark outside, it should get dark inside; basic stuff. I'm going to interview a very highly intellectual person to be able to convince someone that there is a reason other than just common sense behind that.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I thought one of the great tips that Nicholas here—he hasn't a French last name, but he reminded me. It's like the wine, like Pinot, Nicolas Pineault. When you interview him, Nicolas Pineault, like a Pinot wine. You won't forget. Anyways, I keep bringing wine up to you, man. I'm going to slap myself.
Luke Storey:
It's all good, dude. There are sober people that are really strict. I take CBD that has a little bit of THC in it. I take tinctures that have grape alcohol in them. I know my threshold.
Dr. Pompa:
Dude, you're living such a balanced life, man. First of all, compliments to you. I take my hat off to you because you really are, man. That's why you're so darn successful. For me, you've dug out of the—again, you're beyond a three percenter, you're a one percenter. You not only got through the impossible, you have taken it, and now you're making a difference in society. Anyways, I thought a great tip that Nicholas gave was putting the Christmas tree light thing. You know how you can set it, so they go on and off automatically or the hours: six hours, eight hours. You put that on your modem.
Luke Storey:
That's what I did.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, see; anyone can do that. Why wouldn't you do that? It goes on and off automatically. That's bright. More sick people can turn their whole fuse box off. Again, it's about getting deep sleep. It's about really getting REM sleep, Delta sleep. Anyways, you offered some great things, too, between these two shows. Man, I'll tell you; I think it's more important than ever to biohack our lives. Again, it's that one thing that you can control that's just that—we're finding out it's a bigger interference to the way our body runs and heals at the cellular level than we ever thought. Hey, these are some easy things that everyone can do. Hey Luke, thank you, man. You're such an amazing guy. I appreciate you being on this show for our viewers and listeners. Tell them how to get to your podcast again.
Luke Storey:
Sure, so the podcast is called The Life Stylist: The Life Stylist Podcast. My name's Luke Storey. You can find everything that I do at my website, which is lukestorey.com. That's S-T-O-R-E-Y. On social media, I think I'm most prolific on Instagram. I also do a lot of really crazy stuff on my Instagram stories, which people enjoy because I know it's going to disappear in 24 hours. When I was just in Park City, I lived streamed with Dr. Harry Adelson and Dr. Amy Killen. For example, on my social media, it's weird stuff I'll do. I live streamed a whole surgery in the operating room. I put up a tripod. I put on Facebook and Instagram the gory. I'm under anesthesia and I just let the cameras roll.
Dr. Pompa:
I'm going to be doing the same thing, actually. I'm interviewing Harry. I'm going to share the audience with some of the stem cells. I've been after it now for a couple of years, especially in the last year I would say. Oh my gosh, just my interest in—Harry, man, you found the best. Harry's incredible.
Luke Storey:
The people there at those Docere Clinics, they were great, man. What was fun is they're modernized in terms of their understanding of media, and marketing, and stuff. I don't know how many people would just be like yeah, cool, just go ahead and set up all your cameras and stuff in the corner and let it run.
Dr. Pompa:
I know, right.
Luke Storey:
People were like the doctor let you do that? I'm like, “Yeah, I'm promoting his business. He's not dumb and he's cool.” There's nothing unsanitary about it, or illegal, or anything like that.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, he realizes the benefit. Amy Killen, I interviewed her on this show. We talked about GAINSWave, erectile dysfunction, and we went into the stem cells. My wife won't do Botox. I treat people that are toxic from it. Who wants their face not to move? Anyways, the stem cell is the way to go. I'm going to film that as well. He does the whole-body stem cell makeover. For me, he's doing something no one else is doing. I can't wait for the show. I can't wait to get this done, too.
Luke Story:
I'm sure he's going to do it anyway, but he did something on me that's relatively new called—I think they're called Exosomes. Has he talked to you about that?
Dr. Pompa:
No, I actually meet him tomorrow. Meet him, I know Harry very well. I sit down with him tomorrow actually, ironically. What was it called, Exosomes?
Luke Storey:
Exosomes, yeah. I can't even begin to explain it. He explained it to me and I just nodded like I knew what he was talking about. It's this cutting-edge new element to the stem cell treatment that was pretty cool. I was I think one of the first people that he did it one.
Dr. Pompa:
I'm glad he's in on you first. I might be the second.
Luke Storey:
Still standing, yeah. It's just been two weeks since I was out there. Yeah, Amy did my face, my scalp, my genital region. Then he did my shoulder, my hip, two discs, and my SI joint. I'm excited. I've had back pain for God, going on probably 25 years. I've tried everything. I'm really hopeful about this one.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, Harry said look, anywhere I've ever had damage or function. Even if it's not bothering me now, I'm hitting it. He puts you under. Wait, you're going to get to see it. We're videotaping the whole thing, man. You're going to see something—I think no one else is doing it like him. I think it's massively—it's the future. I think it's just absolutely incredible for people who just want to be healthier and people trying to get their health back. Stay tuned for that. Luke, man, thank you. Gosh, you and I could just talk all day. You better hook up with me next time you're in Park City. I'm going to get you back.
Luke Storey:
Dude, I had no idea you lived out there. I thought you lived back east or something. I would have totally.
Dr. Pompa:
That was years ago. I lived in Pittsburgh. Park City, man, it's a hop, skip, and a jump for you.
Luke Storey:
Yeah, it's a short flight from LA. I'm definitely going to be back. I loved it. You're burnt out on the cold. For me, the snow, I was in heaven. Oh my God, I was out with my shirt off at that Salt Lake City Airport. It was 37 degrees. I was out there in the sun, walking barefoot in the snow, doing my Wim Hof breathing before I got on the plane. Salt Lake City was not ready for my ass. People are walking by like what? I was loving it, man. It was great.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, the snow. You should see. I'm looking outside right now. I don't want to unplug here. I'm going to unplug, but can you see that?
Luke Storey:
Look at that, that's gorgeous, man.
Dr. Pompa:
Alright, well anyways, thank you, Luke. Appreciate you, man. We're going to see you on the other side of Park City next time.
Luke Storey:
Very good; thank, man.
Dr. Pompa:
See you, guys.
