Transcript of Episode 229: Hope for Cancer
With Dr. Daniel Pompa and Dr. Antonio Jimenez
Dr. Pompa:
Cellular Healing TV fans, exciting few weeks. You are on location with me at SOPMed, the Society of Progressive Medicine. You know why we’re here? [00:00:11] bringing together MDs, NDs, DCs, all types of practitioners to mastermind, bring the best of what we believe people need to get well today. As a matter of fact, even this every evening tonight, we have the leaders coming together in this profession to meet on the future of alternative medicine.
You’re on location. I’m going to be bringing you some exciting interviews with some of the leading practitioners in the area that you’re going to want to hear from, cancer researchers, doctors, stem cells, you name it. You’re going to hear some exciting interviews right here. The next few weeks, stay tuned to Cell TV for these exciting interviews that I know that you’re going to love. It’s going to definitely affect and change your life.
Ashley:
Hello, everyone. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m Ashley Smith, and today we welcome special guest Dr. Tony Jimenez. Dr. Pompa and Dr. Jimenez are discussing integrative cancer therapies and testing. We’ll hear all about the seven key principles that Dr. Tony uses to target cancer, and these principles can be applied to all of us for prevention, too.
Dr. Jimenez is a huge believer in empowering his patients to live to live and not live to die and that only when working through emotional health and identifying past traumas can true healing happen. Before we get started, let me tell you a little bit more about Dr. Tony Jimenez.
Dr. Antonio Jimenez is the founder and medical director of Hope4Cancer Institute with treatment centers in Mexico. For over 28 years he has dedicated his life to the study, clinical research, and implementation of nontoxic cancer therapies. Based on his seven key principles of cancer therapy, Dr. Jimenez successfully targets cancer with his multidimensional holistic whole-body approach. Emerging as one of the leading authorities in alternative cancer therapies, Dr. Jimenez continues to study medicine and lecture all over the world. Let’s join Dr. Pompa and Dr. Jimenez on this episode of Cellular Healing TV.
Dr. Pompa:
Dr. Tony Jimenez, welcome to the show.
Dr. Jimenez:
Nice to be here.
Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely, we met—where did we meet the first time? We were doing a TV show together.
Dr. Jimenez:
Yes, in Detroit.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, in Detroit, exactly.
Dr. Jimenez:
That seemed like it was yesterday.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, doesn’t it?
Dr. Jimenez:
Actually, we met here a year ago at the SOPMed conference when I dunked you, remember?
Dr. Pompa:
Yes, that’s right. It’s true. He did. He literally threw the ball. Wait, wait, hold on a second. You missed, and then you came up and finally kicked it, and he was the one who put me in the water. That’s true. I’m going to get even. Actually, when we met, too, for that TV show, my wife just fell in love with you. We went to dinner that night, and I think you two spoke the whole time.
Dr. Jimenez:
We did. She was next to me, so that made it easier.
Dr. Pompa:
She likes certain people, so you have a certain energy about you. You really do. You just have that heart. No surprise to me that you run these big—should I call it an alternative cancer clinic? How do you refer to it?
Dr. Jimenez:
We call it integrative because -inaudible- medical doctors. I’m an ND as well as a medical doctor. We give the patient the best that we can offer them with respect to nontoxic therapies and sometimes, for example, low-dose chemotherapy. I’m not a chemo guy, but if someone comes with a huge breast tumor or a tumor in the neck, you have to do something quicker. With low-dose, it’s safe. It’s not going to give the toxic effects, and in combination with the integrative therapy, it works very well.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s Hope4Cancer, and it’s Hope4Cancer Centers?
Dr. Jimenez:
Treatment Centers.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, the Hope4Cancer Treatment Centers with the number four, Hope4Cancer. You have locations in Cancun, Mexico, which I’m definitely going to visit.
Dr. Jimenez:
Oh, we can’t wait for that.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, absolutely, and also in Tijuana, correct?
Dr. Jimenez:
Yes.
Dr. Pompa:
How large are these clinics? We’ll talk about some of the really amazing therapies you’re doing there.
Dr. Jimenez:
The Tijuana clinic was the very first one, and we opened that in 2000. I’ve been working in integrative cancer therapies now for 28 years.
Dr. Pompa:
You’re an oncologist by trade.
Dr. Jimenez:
Yes, and so the Cancun clinic we opened in 2015, so we have three-plus years there. The difference between the two clinics are not the treatments because the treatments are the same. The Tijuana clinic is an in-patient facility, and we have 21 in-patient rooms. The patients stay there 24/7 typically for three weeks. The Cancun clinic is an outpatient facility.
Dr. Pompa:
Someone might start with the Cancun and oftentimes end up with the other one, perhaps.
Dr. Jimenez:
Yeah, hopefully not because—
Dr. Pompa:
Right, exactly, hopefully not. Let’s back up a little bit because I want you to tell your story. Everybody does have a story, right?
Dr. Jimenez:
Right.
Dr. Pompa:
To hear how somebody got into this—how did it choose you?
Dr. Jimenez:
It was my dad. My dad was my hero. My dad left Columbia when I was five years old and moved the family to New Jersey of all places. That’s where I grew up. I was just finishing medical school, and my dad gave me a call that not only was he diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer, but he had already received treatment at a medical center in Houston, Texas, but he was feeling terrible. He said, “Son, this is not the way I want to do any sort of therapies.” At that point, after I composed myself, I said, “Okay, Dad, let’s get going.” I flew him to Mexico. At this point, my dad was in his early 60s. My dad passed at 83, and he passed from unrelated causes and—old age, actually.
Dr. Pompa:
Wow, 20 years of health.
Dr. Jimenez:
Twenty years of health, exactly, very good health.
Dr. Pompa:
That brought you into now. From there, did you go into medical school?
Dr. Jimenez:
I was finishing medical school at that point.
Dr. Pompa:
You were finishing medical school. That’s what launched you into this particular career.
Dr. Jimenez:
Exactly, yes. Then just another story, a number of years later, I opened Hope4Cancer Treatment Centers in Tijuana. Four months into it, we get a six-year-old patient from Illinois.
Dr. Pompa:
I remember this story.
Dr. Jimenez:
She had leukemia. Whitney is now my daughter, and she’s 24. I’m a grandfather and another one on the way.
Dr. Pompa:
Slow that story down because I think they may have missed it. She’s a cancer patient.
Dr. Jimenez:
Right.
Dr. Pompa:
Was it terminal? What stage cancer?
Dr. Jimenez:
She had leukemia. The doctors in St. Louis, Missouri had told the mom that if she did chemo, it was 50/50 and 100% that she wouldn’t be able to have children if she survived. That’s when the mom decided to look elsewhere, and she came to Mexico.
Dr. Pompa:
You made the statement that that patient’s now your daughter.
Dr. Jimenez:
Exactly.
Dr. Pompa:
You got to tell them how that happened because they’re going, “Wait, what?” She starts as a patient. Now how did she end up your daughter?
Dr. Jimenez:
Her mom, Marcy, an incredible lady, and at one point—this is really funny. At the clinic, she told me, “Doctor, your girlfriend is not good for you.” I said, “Excuse me?” One thing led to another. We got married, and I walked Whitney down the aisle, seems like four years ago.
Dr. Pompa:
Then she ended up your daughter. How is she today?
Dr. Jimenez:
Oh, she’s wonderful, and a second grandchild on the way.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s awesome. You were called into it, weren’t you?
Dr. Jimenez:
I was called into, and God led me to where I am. Originally, Dan, I was going to go to medical school in England. At the last moment, it didn’t work out, and I was directed to go to school in Guadalajara, Mexico, and the rest—God opens the doors and closes others.
Dr. Pompa:
I think that’s why my—I know that’s why my wife is drawn to you because like you, I just am who I am. I can’t speak without speaking of God and what He’s done in my life, and you’re the same way.
Dr. Jimenez:
I am. I have a book coming out in October and November of 2018. It’s about our seven key principle philosophy at Hope4Cancer. The point is that there’s a lot of God in the book. When I was writing it, it’s like do I put God in almost every page? Yeah, why not? Why not?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, absolutely. Because you speak of God, I can speak this for myself. I’ve had some hard things in my life. We are about a mission, right?
Dr. Jimenez:
That’s right.
Dr. Pompa:
We’re helping people. That’s our desire. That’s our goal. I sense that from you. What are some of your hard battles? I want people to know who you are. What are some of your hard battles that you’ve been through?
Dr. Jimenez:
Some of them have been health battles. I cannot see with my left eye. When I was a small child and going to the doctor every month because my mom wanted me to be fat, not skinny, the doctor used to give me a B complex injection, and away I went. One day, I asked the doctor if I can, myself, be a physician without having vision in my left eye, and he encouraged me. He said, “Yes, you can.” I’ve never forgotten that.
Another story is another doctor early on in my life, also, when I had a chest cold, he gave me a prescription. On that prescription, I had five medications. I was too young to understand, so I asked the doctor, “What are these for?” He said, “They are for what you have, so take them,” and walked away. I chased him down the hallway, pulled his lab coat, and said, “Doctor, can you please tell me what these are for?” He said, “I already told you,” and left. I ripped up the prescription, threw it in the trashcan, and told my mom, “I cannot take this if I don’t know what they’re for.”
Dr. Pompa:
Wow, how old were you?
Dr. Jimenez:
I was about 10.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s pretty impressive. We’re called to it.
Dr. Jimenez:
Obviously, this is why I connect very well with patients because at an early age, that stuck with me. I felt impotent at that point.
Dr. Pompa:
I just got goosebumps because imagine that. I just watched a show on TV recently, and the gentleman had lost his legs. He didn’t lose his legs; they were paralyzed in a bad accident. He was 6’4” and towering over his patients. He’s thinking, how can I be a doctor? What he’d learned is without his legs, now he’s pulling up to them in a wheelchair. It transformed his practice. He said even just being forced to be eye-to-eye—and then being them. I can tell you, I would never be the doctor that I am without going through the pain that I’ve been through.
Dr. Jimenez:
That’s right.
Dr. Pompa:
From pain to purpose, my wife kind of coined that in our life.
Dr. Jimenez:
I like that, from pain to purpose. The other issue I’ve had for years is hearing loss, tinnitus. I consider this a blessing. Why? I listen to patients. I look them in the eyes because my hearing—
Dr. Pompa:
You have to be this way.
Dr. Jimenez:
I have to be that way. It’s that connection, and that’s when the healing really takes off.
Dr. Pompa:
Gosh, that’s amazing. Talk about the seven—you have these seven philosophies, if you will, core principles of your cancer institutes. Talk about that.
Dr. Jimenez:
It’s been a long journey over 28 years in cancer therapies. I realized that there are seven core issues that we must address in cancer. Six of them are for all of us. The viewers, the listeners have to think, oh, I don’t have cancer, so focus on six of these principles. I’ll start off with number one, which are the nontoxic cancer therapies. Of course, that’s the one that applies to those with cancer. We can go into -inaudible-
Dr. Pompa:
We’ll go through that, exactly.
Dr. Jimenez:
Number two is oxygenation, and we well know the benefits of oxygenation. Hypoxia just makes cancer progress. Even patients that are receiving chemo and radiation—
Dr. Pompa:
Hypoxia means low oxygen.
Dr. Jimenez:
Yes, so patients that are receiving chemo and radiation in that hypoxia, low oxygen status, those therapies will even be less effective. The third one is the immune system. What’s important about the immune system is that it’s not only important to have an optimal immune system, but it’s important to have an immune system that can see the cancer cells. What we now know is that cancer cells shield or cloak themselves from being seen by the immune system. We need to formulate therapies that enable our God-given immune system to do what it’s supposed to do.
The next key principle is nutrition. Who better to talk about nutrition than Dr. Dan? Throughout the time that we’ve known each other, and listening to your information here, at the conferences, and to your talk yesterday, we resonate on many levels with respect to nutrition, right? That’s good, too. It’s like a confirmation of what I’ve seen in clinical practice. Then the next key point supports detoxification. I believe that detox starts in the brain, in the mind.
Dr. Pompa:
See? We’re resonating.
Dr. Jimenez:
I say that a negative thought can kill you faster than a bad germ, so we have to start with that detoxing. The next key point supports the microbiome.
Dr. Pompa:
We talked about that a lot last night.
Dr. Jimenez:
Yes, okay, the microbiome and healthy versus potentially pathogenic organisms like viruses, bacteria, fungi, and parasites, and others. Then we look at the aspect of the emotional/spiritual. I believe that that’s really at the core of disease and at the core of healing.
Dr. Pompa:
I interviewed Dr. Leigh Connealy, and she spoke of the emotions as being such a core. Last night, in our mastermind meeting with all these great doctors—we’re masterminding together—it seemed like the cancer doctors were the ones that I heard that message from the most as far as how much the emotion plays in a role. What’s your thoughts on that? What do you see? How do you deal with it in your clinic?
Dr. Jimenez:
Number one is that we have to enable the patient to go to that space because some of the patients, about 10%, have something called secondary gains. They unconsciously or even consciously, they want to remain in that sick condition because now their spouse, their family members, their friends are paying attention to them.
Dr. Pompa:
Identity.
Dr. Jimenez:
Right, identity. We have questionnaires that the patients fill out. This is not like a yes or no. It’s really going in depth with traumas, conflicts, bad stuff in life that happened. We’re all human. We have a backpack of stuff, so we need to start removing those stones from the backpack and letting them truly go, not putting them on a back burner, not saying, “I’ve dealt with them,” or, “I’ve resolved them,” but truly letting it go. In the letting go is the freedom and the healing.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s a detox. You’re getting rid of an emotion, and toxins, traumas, thoughts, even thoughts about those emotional situations or just thoughts in general?
Dr. Jimenez:
That’s right. Yeah, both.
Dr. Pompa:
All of it.
Dr. Jimenez:
It’s important for patients to do a timeline starting from the month and the year of birth and going on. Oftentimes, 18 months before the diagnosis of cancer, you have an acute traumatic event that happened.
Dr. Pompa:
Really?
Dr. Jimenez:
Yes, and then we go to the timelines before or after, and you’ll see cycles repeating themselves.
Dr. Pompa:
I’ve heard that. I don’t remember the years, whether it was every 10 years or every 13, there’s certain patterns. Let’s say something happened at age three. There’s a pattern of typically another trauma, something else occurs?
Dr. Jimenez:
Yeah, and when you’re working on this, sometimes you don’t remember them all, but you put one trauma there, and then that stirs the brain, accessing that file from the computer, the brain. This is hard work. It’s painful, but it’s liberating, and that’s the key to well being.
We had a patient that came to the clinic, and she said, “Dr. Tony, I have one month to live.” What do you think I thought? I said, “What am I going to do?”
Dr. Pompa:
She identified with that, too.
Dr. Jimenez:
Yeah, she identified with that. Why did she say she had one month to live? Five months prior to this, her oncologist had told her she had six months to live. She said, “I have never bought anything for myself in the last five months. I’ve just been preparing to die.” I said, “Well, why are you here?” I accessed that situation with her, and a few days later, I saw that she had a necklace on that I hadn’t seen before. I asked our driver at the clinic if he had taken her to a mall. He said, “Yeah, I took her to a jewelry store.”
I felt that at this point, she had shifted. I called her into my office, and she said, “Yes, I bought the necklace.” Now, she did an event that she hadn’t done in five months, and now she was living to live, and not living to die. That patient is alive to today.
Dr. Pompa:
I was hoping you’d say that. That’s amazing. Your name, Hope4Cancer—because without hope, it’s over.
Dr. Jimenez:
That’s right.
Dr. Pompa:
Is that the most important thing?
Dr. Jimenez:
That’s the most important thing. At Hope4Cancer Treatment Centers, our core principles are hope, faith, love, and generosity. If you have all four of them, seemingly miracles happen.
Dr. Pompa:
You’re getting me emotional. I don’t know why that is. I don’t even know why that just happened. I guess it’s who you are, honestly, and what you represent.
Dr. Jimenez:
Thank you. Thank you, Dan. My wife is a big part of this because she told me a few months ago, “When this stops being a mission, we close Hope4Cancer.” That’s what Hope4Cancer is. It’s a mission. Last year, we baptized about eight patients and number of staff members.
Dr. Pompa:
You’re killing me, dude.
Dr. Jimenez:
God is doing wonderful, wonderful work at the clinic. Sometimes patients come in, and they don’t make it. As a physician, as a believer, I said, “So God, give me a reason for this,” but I’m just seeing so much happening there. There are prayer groups every morning, patients coming into the treatment area, and just forming a circle, praying, the staff joining them. Medical doctors, PhDs joining them in prayer, it’s wonderful.
Dr. Pompa:
Oh, man, I—my wife and I have actually been praying many mornings, and God laid you on our heart. We pray for protection many mornings. I feel the important work that you’re doing and offering.
Dr. Jimenez:
Thank you for that because those prayers are needed. When we do what we do, we’re out there, right?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah.
Dr. Jimenez:
Some people don’t want this to go forward.
Dr. Pompa:
I know it. We pray protection over you now and what you’re doing because they need it. You need to hear this message. Let’s talk about some of the unique treatments that you’re doing. You talked about the light therapy last night. You really are on the cutting edge of some amazing stuff. You talked about the oxygen work. A lot of people are doing that. It’s really important to do that. Talk about the light therapy you’re doing.
Dr. Jimenez:
We call it photobiomodulation or light therapy. There was light. Let there be light.
Dr. Pompa:
Let there be light, yeah, exactly.
Dr. Jimenez:
Light and sound are very healing. What we’re doing now and we’ve done for 18 years is using sound and light. As technology has improved, the delivery system of this light obviously has been enhanced. Now, for example, we give the patient a natural substance that’s absorbed by cancer cells selectively. Some of this is derived from chlorophyll. We can use quercumin. We could use St. John’s Wort extract and other substances that are natural. They’re up-taken by cancer cells. Then we put a laser into the vein. We can use ultraviolet light, red light, blue light, green light, yellow light, and infrared—
Dr. Pompa:
I stand in front of my red light every day.
Dr. Jimenez:
Yes, light is, as you know, very powerful. Now, we could deliver these photons of light directly into the blood stream and have it circulate throughout the body. We’re not only attacking primary tumors, but the circulating tumor cells or cancer stem cells in the body.
Dr. Pompa:
Oh, wow.
Dr. Jimenez:
For example, a patient that has a breast tumor, we give the IV treatment with the IV photo light therapy, but also we can do the needles right into the breast with the laser lights or into the lymph nodes. We see that these tumors are getting softer and smaller very quickly. It’s safe, nontoxic. It kills cancer stem cells or circulating tumor cells.
Dr. Pompa:
Right, yeah, the bad stem cells that cancer cells produce.
Dr. Jimenez:
Those are the ones that lead to metastasis, and those are the ones, eventually, that go to the lung, the liver, the brain, or the bone.
Dr. Pompa:
Dr. Ahvie, who I actually interviewed, he talked about using the same lights as stimulating cancer cells. They found that they get even higher yields when they extract cancer cells using these technologies.
Dr. Jimenez:
Stem cells.
Dr. Pompa:
The good stem cells. The stem cells absorb it just like the cancer stem cells, but you’re able to target it. Interesting.
Dr. Jimenez:
In regenerative medicine, we use this a lot. We do PRP into the knee, and then we put the laser light directly into the knee, as well.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s amazing.
Dr. Jimenez:
Photobiomodulation or laser light therapy is really the latest development in the field of integrative—
Dr. Pompa:
The cells literally just pull the light in. It’s pretty amazing.
Dr. Jimenez:
Yes, it is.
Dr. Pompa:
Let’s step back into some testing because you’re doing some very unique testing. I think many people would say, “What testing can I have done to be preventative?” and, “If I do have cancer, what testing can I do?” Then we’ll jump back into some of the unique treatments, but talk about testing a little bit.
Dr. Jimenez:
Are you ready for this?
Dr. Pompa:
I am.
Dr. Jimenez:
This is amazing.
Dr. Pompa:
Listen up. This is good.
Dr. Jimenez:
This is called photodynamic infrared spectroscopy, so we’re using light.
Dr. Pompa:
Red light frequencies, primarily?
Dr. Jimenez:
Red light frequencies, yes. What it is, we inject intravenously this [sensitizer], this natural substance that’s nontoxic and up-taken by cancer cells through a small catheter in the arm. Then we take this unit, this diagnostic equipment that has a probe, and we put the probe directly in the vein that we just injected the sensitizer. In 1,000 seconds our total blood volume, which is about five liters, will go through this point. If there are any circulating tumor cells, it will pick it up.
Dr. Pompa:
Which is how most metastasis happens.
Dr. Jimenez:
That’s right. It will pick it up. It’ll form a spike on the monitor of the computer, and we know that there is a circulating tumor cell. In addition to that, there’s a little apparatus that you put above that, and automatically, in milliseconds, it turns on when it detects—when the spectroscopy detects a circulating tumor cell and emits an infrared light that kills that cancer cell.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s a treatment and a test. How long has this been out? Is this something you can only do in Mexico versus the US?
Dr. Jimenez:
We are the first clinic in this part of the world that will have it. The only other one that’s in clinical use is in Europe.
Dr. Pompa:
Germany.
Dr. Jimenez:
Germany, yeah.
Dr. Pompa:
I knew it.
Dr. Jimenez:
Those Germans, right?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, exactly.
Dr. Jimenez:
We’re excited about this. It’s going to change—it’s a game changer. Imagine a patient who comes to us and they’ve had treatment before. They say, “We’re coming to Hope4Cancer just for consolidation treatment because they told us we’re in remission.” Let’s check.
Dr. Pompa:
Is this something all of us should get done?
Dr. Jimenez:
This is something that all of us—
Dr. Pompa:
I want that done. Matter of fact, I just were referring one of my good friends to you to do all this amazing testing.
Dr. Jimenez:
Yes, exactly, so that could be done. When we’re doing the therapies at the clinic, we can monitor the effectiveness of the therapy as we see the circulating tumor cells decrease.
Dr. Pompa:
Because it’s so not invasive, it’s probably inexpensive if insurance wouldn’t cover it.
Dr. Jimenez:
Exactly, yes. If someone has a tumor, like I mentioned before, the breast, or an external tumor somewhere, or a lymph node, we could put the probe there and see if there’s stem cells in the area. Sometimes there’s a question, is this inflammation? Is it dead tissue? Is it active cancer cells? Now we will know non-invasively.
Dr. Pompa:
Wow, that’s incredible. What are some other tests you all were doing?
Dr. Jimenez:
The other tests we’re doing, we do a lot of energetic testing because at the end of the day, some of these tests like CAT scans, and PET scans, and MRIs, they can’t see at a deep, cellular level. We do some tests to look at gut function, thyroid health. It’s not just killing the cancer cell; it’s getting the body to a optimal functional state, as you know. Those tests are more based on energetic medicine, and they’re validated tests in Europe. It’s just that in the US, they’re not recognized.
Dr. Pompa:
With that said, what are some of the things you’re able to do in Mexico that you’re not able to get in the US, perhaps?
Dr. Jimenez:
We’re fortunate because in Mexico, they still give the doctor the benefit of the -inaudible-. We are truly here to help our patients. Most of what we do is not recognized legally by the authorities in the US, so no photodynamic therapy, hyperthermia. We use a lot of hyperthermia.
Dr. Pompa:
You might want to explain that, but go ahead. You can list them out.
Dr. Jimenez:
Yeah, so hyperthermia—ozone, there’s some thoughts about is it legal or not for cancer? The thing is here it’s for cancer. If you use it for inflammation, or beauty, or something else, it’s a different story.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s okay. Talk about the hyperthermia because that’s used in a lot of different conditions. I’ve heard it being used in Lyme disease, chronic infection, chronic fatigue. Talk about that.
Dr. Jimenez:
We know that cancer cells are heat-sensitive, and normal human cells are heat resistant. That’s why when we get a flu or a cold, the fever is to kill the bugs, not to kill our normal cells. We know this characteristics of cancer cells, so when we’re able to elicit heat, thermal energy, either locally in a breast cancer or systemically, we’re elevating the body temperature. Those cancer cells start to fragment. Every other therapy that you’re using is going to work synergistically. The beauty here is that, again, it’s nontoxic. Remember, most cancer patients have low body temperature. If we consider 98.6 Fahrenheit being normal, some of our patients are 95.
Dr. Pompa:
When I was sick, I was 95, believe it or not.
Dr. Jimenez:
Metabolically, the body is not function optimally at those temperatures, so we need to increase the core body temperature.
Dr. Pompa:
I ended up with so many other infections, Candida, parasite. My body temperature being so low, which turned out to be heavy metals, mercury. Then what happened was then all these other pathogens, opportunistic, came about.
Dr. Jimenez:
I’m glad you mentioned that because all of our patients at Hope4Cancer see a holistic, biological dentist.
Dr. Pompa:
I’m speaking on that this evening about this as being one of the big causes people don’t see. You see that in cancer, as well.
Dr. Jimenez:
All the time, so we have to make sure that root canals, metal fillings, cavitations, and periodontal disease are addressed and taken care of because it’s so important.
Dr. Pompa:
A lot of people—as soon as I hear cancer, throat cancer, breast cancer, thyroid cancer, first thing I ask is, “Have you had wisdom teeth out on that side?” and, “Do you have a root canal?” Talk to them about that because they’ve watched me do shows on that, but here is an oncologist, cancer doctor, telling you this. Talk about that connection.
Dr. Jimenez:
The mouth is the doorway to the internal environment, one of them, anyway, one of the most important. There’s study after study that validates this fact that these currents, galvanic currents that are happening in our mouth from metals, are toxic. It’s affecting our meridians, our circulation. It’s just tapping our immune system every single moment of every day. It’s like you’re going up the hill while you’re trying to get better.
Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely, yeah. I don’t like metal in the mouth, period, because of what you said. It’s a current. It’s an electrical current. You’re here telling us how important these energy fields and things are. We’re measuring them for cancer, and yet you have metal in your mouth. I don’t know.
Dr. Jimenez:
Right, we’re trying to protect ourselves from Wi-Fi and external electromagnetic fields, and then we have this in our—
Dr. Pompa:
I think the metal in the mouth, with all the exposure of EMF, it really does. It makes it worse. At least clinically, we’ve found that.
Dr. Jimenez:
Yes, and as I said, all of our patients see a biological, holistic dentist, and you could tell the difference. You can tell the difference clinically. Their energy improves. Just a brightness in their facial complexion improves.
Dr. Pompa:
You and I believe this. If you don’t get to the causes—and we’re talking toxins, traumas, and thoughts—you’re not going to get well. Again, that’s where even alternative doctors go wrong today. That was part of what I spoke on last night. I think we’re getting caught up in a lot of things instead of really what matters most. Remove the interference.
Dr. Jimenez:
It takes time, and sometimes doctors just don’t want to invest the time or don’t have the time. You have to have a team because alone, I can’t do it. We have a great team of doctors, practitioners to attend to all these.
Dr. Pompa:
Talk about some of the other cool treatments you’re doing. We kind of went back and forth to the testing, but talk about some other things you’re doing.
Dr. Jimenez:
For the immune system, I think we’re above what anyone else is doing for the immune system. We have to upregulate the innate immune system, which is that short-acting immune system, immediate-acting immune system, and the adaptive immune system, which is more the memory and the long-term immune system. There are these so-called macrophages that you know very well. These are like policemen, but we have to call the policemen out of the police station so they can do what they do.
Cancer cells have figured out a way to keep these policemen in the police station. That way, they’re doing what they’re doing, metastasizing and so forth. We have a therapy called Sunivera, comes from the sun. It’s composed of six ingredients, separate ingredients or products, which collectively up-regulate the effect of the macrophages. Helps the gut biome because we know that most of our immune system is there. It’s wonderful. Patients do it for at least three months. Part of it is injectable, a very small, thin needle. There’s nothing better to up-regulate the effects and the actions of the macrophages—
Dr. Pompa:
Again, could you use it for other conditions? Can someone healthy just do it, too, just upregulate those immune—
Dr. Jimenez:
Guess what? I do it myself, and my wife does, too.
Dr. Pompa:
I would, too. I’m thinking I want that.
Dr. Jimenez:
Together with the Vitamin D, yeah.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s brilliant. I said, “From here, I’m going down to get some IV ozone.” They offer it to us speakers here.
Dr. Jimenez:
By the way, we all know the benefits of ozone. It’s been done for centuries. At Hope4Cancer, we do ozone in various ways. Sometimes we even inject it directly into the tumor. We also do it rectally after a coffee enema.
Dr. Pompa:
We were just talking about that. I’m getting an ozone machine to do that.
Dr. Jimenez:
Right, so do your coffee enema, and then follow that up with the rectal ozone. Sometimes we take blood out. We put it in a bag, ultraviolet—
Dr. Pompa:
Right, that’s what I’m getting done here.
Dr. Jimenez:
Yeah, your [BBI], and then we put the ozone there, and put it back into the body.
Dr. Pompa:
Push it right in. Yeah, it’s amazing. Ozone, I think all of the docs here, we all resonate around using something as simple as three—O3, three oxygens. Come on. How can it be so simple?
Dr. Jimenez:
You know, most of us are shallow breathers. That’s one of the main things for lifestyle that we need to learn how to do is breathe. Take the deep breath through your nose, exhale, and exercise. Move, move, move. A body in motion is a body that can heal even from Stage 4 cancer.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, absolutely. Remove the interference, the body can heal. Give it what it needs.
Dr. Jimenez:
That’s right.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s what’s happening. We’re not getting the things that the cells need, and we have massive interferences, toxins, traumas, and thoughts. It’s huge. Last night, we had a mastermind of all of these amazing doctors from around the world. I was blessed to be on the panel. We talked about the future of medicine. What do you see? What did you see coming out of that meeting? What was some of the cool take-aways that you got?
Dr. Jimenez:
Interestingly enough, I came to this meeting from Cancun, and there was a stem cell PhD researcher from San Diego that flew into Cancun to meet with us.
Dr. Pompa:
Okay, wait, not Dr. Ahvie?
Dr. Jimenez:
It wasn’t Dr. Ahvie. It was someone else. The topic of conversation was exosomes.
Dr. Pompa:
Which, by the way, I have. I told my story. After six days I injected exosomes.
Dr. Jimenez:
I’m starting to study this. I know you studied this for over two years. What I see with this is that exosomes are not cells, per se, right?
Dr. Pompa:
They’re not, right.
Dr. Jimenez:
They’re not cells, so—
Dr. Pompa:
Communication molecules.
Dr. Jimenez:
Yeah, communication molecules, so wow. Why is this a wow? Our cells are communicating every moment of every day. Information transfer is so vitally important, and that’s one thing that even cancer cells have. Cancer cell is an intelligent process. Cancer cells are communicating with each other. They’re learning. They’re adapting. Even their behavior changes to survive in the body. I believe the future of medicine within the energetic parameter, another part of that can be exosomes.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no doubt. Not many people are—this show may be the first show that’s actually talked about exosomes in at least the depth that we have. Just looking at some of the studies with this, it’s amazing. When you look at cancer and many other diseases, many feel it’s the lack of cell communication that is the first problem.
Last night, we talked about—we had Gary Samuelson who is—he’s a medical atomic nuclear physicist. Who’s heard of such a thing? I actually interviewed him on the show. I’m going to have to bring him back. He talks about these redox molecules and cell-to-cell communication. Zach Bush talked about it last night, the failure of cells to communicate. These exosomes are part of that. Zach’s product, Restore ASEA—there’s other—hydrogen, we spoke—
Dr. Jimenez:
I, myself, do hydrogen every day.
Dr. Pompa:
Yep, me, too.
Dr. Jimenez:
I do hydrogen gas. When I’m studying or researching, I have my nasal canella and intaking hydrogen gases.
Dr. Pompa:
Matter of fact, I was going to ask you that. One of the things we talked about, oxygen, but is hydrogen—we have a product called Fastonic, which is molecular hydrogen that I love to give during fasts, and I take it every day. Are you utilizing that in your clinic?
Dr. Jimenez:
We are. We even have a hydrogen water device. In addition to some patients who have lung cancer and other cancers, we’re doing it by inhalation, as well. Also, in athletes, it’s been shown to—recovery, stamina. Hydrogen is also elongating those telomeres, the production of telomerase. The telomeres, as we know, is at the end of the chromosome. Cancer patients have shortened telomeres, so their longevity is way down.
Dr. Pompa:
We know that it extends those telomeres, absolutely. You know me. I’m big on detox. When we had a conversation, I’m like, “You need to do true cellular detox, cellular detox, in your clinic.” We got to bring it.
Dr. Jimenez:
We have to bring it.
Dr. Pompa:
You know what I mean? That excites me, though, because I’ve talked to some of the top stem cell docs in the world, talking to these top—you’ve taught cancer docs. This is what we’re doing. We’re trying to bring everything that works together. I know that’s why they invited me on the panel, to bring the cellular detox and the things that I bring with the fasting.
The stuff you’re doing with cancer, this is what we have to do right here. That, to me, came out of last night’s meeting. We have to meet like this more often because cream will rise to the top as far as therapies, treatments, and what’s working. We talked about that last night. What is working? Let’s bring it to the people.
Dr. Jimenez:
Talking about working, we had a third party do a retrospective study of 465 random patients at Hope4Cancer. Ninety-two percent of these patients were Stage 4. This is an ongoing retrospective study. We’re in year three now. The one-year survival was 78%. The two-year survival was 76%. Remember, these are Stage 4 cancer patients. If you compare that data with the NCI, National Cancer Institute’s SEER data, Surveillance, Epidemiology, and End Stage Result data, which is the data that all medical institutes adhere by, their results on the same type of patients is 26 to 30 percent. We were at least double.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s incredible. That is incredible. It speaks what we know.
Dr. Jimenez:
What you’re doing and bringing to us docs and soon to the clinic—and then we’re using imaging medicine. We’re using sound and light. We’re looking at the emotions of the patients, their thoughts, and detoxing at all levels. Wow, the future is good. If anyone that’s watching this has cancer or knows of someone that has cancer, the first thing is to realize that very seldom is cancer a medical emergency. There’s time to think. There’s time to get informed. Don’t just say yes, yes, yes to the first thing your oncologist tells you. Get a second opinion. Get a third opinion.
Dr. Pompa:
Remind them of your website where they can go, and read, and educate themselves.
Dr. Jimenez:
It’s Hope4Cancer.com. Cancer is not a death sentence.
Dr. Pompa:
No, absolutely. You know, I was going to tell you to leave them in hope because it’s Hope4Cancer.
Dr. Jimenez:
That’s right.
Dr. Pompa:
I think you just did. You saying that, it’s not a death sentence.
Dr. Jimenez:
It’s not a death sentence.
Dr. Pompa:
I think that that’s what we have been taught. The cancer, the C-word, we don’t even like to talk about it because we look at it as soon as you get the diagnosis, it’s a death sentence.
Dr. Jimenez:
Then they tell you that you’re terminal. We’re all terminal. No one’s here forever, so we’re all terminal.
Dr. Pompa:
Tell me something I don’t know. You’re just trying to shorten it. No, I think I’m going to do some things.
Dr. Jimenez:
Guess what? Now, we’re having more doctors, more nurses, chiropractors, naturopath, people in the health field coming to Hope4Cancer Treatment Centers because they know better. They’re realizing that, hey. We had a patient from Mayo Clinic, but guess what? She doesn’t want their colleagues to know.
Dr. Pompa:
You mean a doctor from Mayo Clinic.
Dr. Jimenez:
Yes.
Dr. Pompa:
Okay, yeah, who is a patient at your—yeah. I’m going to be honest with you. I think that a doctor, if they were intellectually honest and they’re working in that environment long enough, they’re looking outside of it.
Dr. Jimenez:
They are.
Dr. Pompa:
They see the failure of it.
Dr. Jimenez:
Remember that poll that they did years ago. I think it was in California. They polled about 1,000 oncologists. Eighty-six percent of them said that they wouldn’t give themselves what they give their patients.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s what my brain was referencing when I said that.
Dr. Jimenez:
I have to add a little bit.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s a real number when you look at, really, the failure. Since the war on cancer, Tony, where are we? I have to ask you one more question. How do you feel about what’s becoming en vogue, and that’s really treating our genes? Women are removing their breasts because of certain genes. Of course, there’s all types of SNIP treating, and this, and that. How do you feel about that?
Dr. Jimenez:
The first thing to know is that a tumor can have up to 100 genetic mutations. Just think about that, 100 genetic mutations in one tumor. If someone has metastatic disease to the liver and they have two, three, four different tumors, the tumor next to that one can have 100 separate, different genetic mutations. We are still in very pamper state, infant state in gene-targeted therapy.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s not working.
Dr. Jimenez:
It’s not working, and it’s highly toxic. It’s very expensive. Some of these gene therapies, up to 46% of patients have to abandon treatment because of the severe toxic effect, one of them being death.
Dr. Pompa:
The thing that even worries me, even with the SNIPS, and MTHFR, and all these different things, it just concerns me always because people then define themselves with these things. The more we learn about this, the more we’re at epigenetics, meaning you might have a certain SNIP or certain gene, but we learn—the body, its innate intelligence, goes around these things, and it’s not as simple as we thought, at least we thought it was going to be.
Dr. Jimenez:
What I think, I think the opposite. I think it’s simple, but we’re complicating it.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s it. That’s my point. Absolutely, we are.
Dr. Jimenez:
Just go back to nature. Go back to God’s creation. Take resources that will enable the body to heal. Get a medical person like us at Hope4Cancer that can really guide you. We have over 28 years of experience. We’re just complicating it too much. Cancer is a multifactorial disease. I don’t think we’re ever going to be successful if we are targeting these genes or targeting this specific part of our immune system because there’s more that we don’t know about these areas of gene therapy than we do know.
Dr. Pompa:
Yep, absolutely. Dr. Jimenez, Tony, man, thank you.
Dr. Jimenez:
Thank you. I love you, brother.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I love you, too. Stay tuned for the next show. I tell you, this is exciting stuff. Thank you, man, appreciate it.
Dr. Jimenez:
Thank you.
