Transcript of Episode 232: Save Your Brain With Root Cause
With Dr. Daniel Pompa and Dr. Titus Chiu
Ashley:
Hello, everyone. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m Ashley Smith, and today we welcome special guest, Dr. Titus Chiu. We have a really important topic for you today. Dr. Pompa and Dr. Chiu will be talking all about brain health. We’ll learn how to utilize a root-cause approach to heal your brain after a concussion, how it’s possible to get well and stay well after a traumatic brain injury, and we’ll hear simple ways to gather information at home about the wellness of your brain as well as some easy brain exercises you can utilize at home. This is an episode you won’t want to miss.
Before we get started, let me tell you a little bit more about Dr. Chiu. Dr. Titus Chiu is a best-selling author, award-winning international speaker, and functional neurologist who is on a mission to transform the face of healthcare for the 1.1 billion people around the world struggling with brain and mental disorders. He is the cofounder and clinical director of KOBA Family Wellness, a functional medicine center located in Berkley, California that specializes in post-concussion syndrome and other neurological conditions.
Dr. Chiu is the number one best-selling author of Brain SAVE: The Six-Week Plan to Heal Your Brain from Concussions, Brain Injuries, and Trauma that was just released on Amazon. Let’s welcome Dr. Pompa and Dr. Chiu and get right into it. This is Cellular Healing TV.
Dr. Pompa:
Welcome, Dr. Titus. I appreciate you coming on. What a big topic, 1.1 billion people around the world with brain disorders, all types of neurodegenerative conditions we’ve talked about on this show. That’s a big number. This has been a passion and a mission of yours to bring some of the things that you’re doing to the world and even enlighten people about this growing problem.
I live here in Park City, Utah. We have major concussion programs, brain injury programs here with skiing, snow boarding. This is a massive reality, and thank God, a growing reality. Torah Bright was one of my clients. I don’t know if you know who she is. She’s a famous, double gold medallist snow boarder. She was on Dancing with the Stars. That’s why most people know her. She’s a sweetheart. She came to me with seven concussions. I mean, imagine. Obviously, she was taken out of the sport.
With a lot of the work that I’m passionate about, I got her back in the sport. Unfortunately, she got two more concussions, so maybe that wasn’t a good thing. I guess what I’m saying is I’ve seen this in person. My daughter had two concussions. Because I’m around skiing here, I’m seeing a lot more of this problem. This goes even beyond that, brain trauma. You’ve written a number-one bestseller, which actually, we should promote. It’s called Brain SAVE, and we should make sure people can find that on Amazon. How did you get into this, Doc, honestly? Not many people are just focusing on this like you are.
Dr. Chiu:
That’s a great question, Dr. Dan. It really is my mission to help transform the face of healthcare for the millions of people suffering with post-concussion syndrome. The way I got into it is actually a pretty interesting story because I never set out to be a post-concussion syndrome specialist. Actually, years ago, I was living overseas, and I was hit by a car on my way to work. I was on a scooter, and I got smashed by a car, flew through the air, landed, broke my ribs, dislocated my shoulder. Thank God I was actually wearing a helmet or I really wouldn’t be here today.
Through that, though, I ended up—they brought me to the emergency room, and they did all the tests. Everything was “normal,” but I ended up with chronic neck and shoulder pain. I tried everything in conventional medicine. I tried physical therapy, painkillers, you name it, rest, and nothing worked. It was just so frustrating, and I was giving up hope. Thank God, at the time, though, my brother, he was a chiropractor. I went home one winter vacation, and within three sessions, he treated me, and that neck and shoulder pain was gone.
I was blown away, and I wanted to learn, how did he do that? What is this stuff, this magical stuff, and how can I do that for other people? I finished up my job, and I came back to the United States, and I just started school. I dove deep into this natural medicine, and chiropractic, and all of that. Along the way, I actually discovered neurology, and I really fell in love with it, the model of neurology, because it was a great way for me to understand the why. Why do people have the symptoms that they do? Why aren’t they getting better if they’re doing the normal -inaudible-?
Through that, I started—I dove deep into that, really learned as much as I could. I actually started teaching for a neurology institute. I was flown all over the world to teach neurology to doctors after I graduated. I’d get a lot of referrals from other doctors as well as a lot of patients that I would care for. At that time, though, I wasn’t even really specializing, like I said, in concussion, but I was seeing a lot of patients with more chronic issues, chronic neurological symptoms or even things like autoimmunity.
When I would do the normal protocols that I learned in school or that I learned in seminars, it would help a lot of people, but then there was a certain population of patients—not a huge one, but significant enough that when I would do the normal protocols like dietary changes, maybe some basic manual therapy, acupuncture, things like that—when I’d do those things, they wouldn’t get better. Again, I’m just wondering to myself, why? I was scratching my head. Why aren’t they getting better? I’d do a deeper analysis into their history, and guess what?
They all had a history of a concussion, and not like a massive concussion where necessarily they were blacked out like they got in a huge car accident, and they woke up in the emergency room. No, even simple things like if they played sports when they were younger, maybe hitting a soccer ball multiple times, never getting knocked out, but enough to kind of shake and jar their brain. I found this pattern, a lot of people with these chronic symptoms like brain fog, and memory issues, or chronic fatigue, or even things like autoimmunity. They had this root cause in the head injury. From there, I just dove deeper. That’s just my personality.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, me, too.
Dr. Chiu:
Yeah, I know. That’s why I really loved your stuff, too. It’s just about learning. I’m an eternal student. I’m also very passionate about teaching, but it all comes from my thirst for knowledge. I always see that in your work, too, and I admire it. I always want to understand why. Why are they not healing? I did this root cause analysis, and wow, a lot of them had this history of a concussion or multiple concussions.
I’m like, okay, what do I need to do to dive into that world? I went to seminars, and conferences, and I read research article. I cracked open books, and I started to learn more and more about this really—just kind of underneath the surface, this world of concussions and how I firmly believe it’s a silent epidemic. The brain controls everything. I really love your cellular detox work, and just like you, I think your—you have rooted in chiropractic, right, which is all about changing the nervous system, and that’s the thing. The brain controls everything. It controls every single cell in your body.
Even in patients who didn’t have “classical” neurological symptoms, but they might have had fatigue, or autoimmunity, or Hashimoto’s, I found a lot of them that weren’t responding to the typical protocols had a history of concussion. After I learned all that stuff and I started applying it to their lives, that’s when they started getting better. I’m like, wow, this is a huge—it’s an epidemic that really needs care. That’s actually one of the main reasons why I wrote my book is because so many people out there, number one, who suffer from these chronic neurological symptoms or other types of chronic symptoms, they don’t get the care they need, as you know.
I know that’s part of your mission is education. That’s why I wrote this book, number one, to educate other doctors, too. Other doctors out there, even though they might not specialize in neurology or concussions, I think, for a lot of their patients that aren’t responding to their protocols, it could be because they have this neurological root cause because of the concussions. That’s one reason why I wrote the book.
Number two, I wrote the book, not as a technical piece to dive deep and impress people with my knowledge of neurology or science. It’s really a straightforward, practical book for a person who’s had a concussion and is still struggling with symptoms months or years after. The way I wrote it is really a conversation because I actually have a history of multiple concussions. I write it from this perspective almost like, hey—like if you were a good friend of mine who’s had a concussion. Man, here are some things that you can do immediately, and they give you hope.
A lot of patients who’ve had concussions and they’ve been to doctor after doctor, they’re frustrated because the doctors, either they don’t know what to do and they give them some generic advice like, “Oh, get some rest or take some aspirin,” or I’ve seen this a lot with my patients, and it really brakes my heart. They get written off like they’re crazy. That’s one of the main reasons why I wrote the book is because you’re not crazy. It’s actually a physical, neurological problem rooted in the neural networks of your brain—of your nervous system.
Dr. Pompa:
Let’s peel this back a little bit. The book’s Brain SAVE. I’m sure you can get it on Amazon, but I’m sure we’ll get your website here at one point, as well. I’m sure they can get it there. You have a six-week program in the book that we’re going to get to and we’re going to talk about. I can’t wait for my viewers to hear this.
I want to pull back a little bit because we said 1.1 billion mental disorders, so you’re connecting head trauma to many mental disorders, right, and I would say many brain problems. You even said brain fog, which many of our viewers and listeners suffer from brain fog, anxiety, sleep problems, hormone dysregulation. You’re connecting this to many of these different conditions. I can tell you, personally, I see a perfect storm. I see people who get a trauma and it’s the thing that sets them over the edge because they already have multiple stressors going on. Talk about this connection a little bit more and perhaps maybe what happens after a brain trauma that could lead to these things.
Dr. Chiu:
The major connection, like I said, between brain traumas and any number of chronic symptoms is the fact, number one—it’s several things, actually, but number one, the brain controls every single cell in your body, but very specifically, number two, the brain controls and regulates the digestive system, what we call the brain-gut axis. There’s a very specific neurological pathway from areas within the brain, the cortex, with what we call the brain stem, which sits in between your brain and your spinal cord.
Within your brain stem, you have this region called the nucleus tractus solitarius as well as other different type of nuclei, also what we call the dorsal motor nucleus of the vagus nerve. I’m sure you’re aware of the vagus nerve and how powerful—not only does it control digestive function, but also heart rate, and cardiovascular function, reproductive function, all the life-giving, essential functions. The brain controls the vagus nerve, which then can control the gut.
As you know, with this functional medicine model, a lot of people are starting to understand the gut is kind of like the key. It’s the gateway to health. If there’s imbalances in your digestive system, that could lead to chronic fatigue. That could lead to autoimmunity. That could lead to a whole host of different symptoms.
The thing is that the research has shown if someone suffers a traumatic brain injury, even if their digestive system is totally fine, they have a good balance of good bacteria, they have healthy gut motility, movement, they don’t have constipation or bloating, immediately after a traumatic brain injury, they can trigger what’s known as leaky gut.
Leaky gut opens the doors to a host of a million different degenerative health conditions. That’s one of the root causes for what I find for a lot of people who’ve tried just dietary interventions, supplement interventions, and lifestyle, and even running functional medicine tests looking at blood, looking at stool, looking at urine to look at all the different systems. When they do those protocols, if they don’t get better, and especially if they have a history of a concussion, sometimes it’s the concussion that’s the root cause.
Dr. Pompa:
I want to say something there because I’m finding that. Of course, you know, I’m lecturing everywhere, and right now, there is, no doubt, an excitement about the microbiome and its relationship to the brain. Matter of fact, we’ve been working on a product for four years. It’s a bacteria that—-inaudible- bacteria back the way the brain is. It’s called Neurobiotic. We get that axis.
However, with that said, what’s being forgotten is what you’re saying, meaning that oftentimes—I can talk clinically about this—is that until we get the brain here fixed, we can’t fix the gut. We’re almost forgetting about the other way around. Of course, you brought up the point that it affects the vagus nerve, the vagus nerve affects the gut, and it’s even more complicated than that. What you’re saying is we have to pay attention to this brain and this brain because there’s an interrelationship with both.
Dr. Chiu:
Exactly, yeah. You’re talking about what we call the gut-brain axis. As you know, it’s the intimate relationship between the gut and the brain. Everyone calls the gut the second brain, the enteric nervous system. Why I’m so excited about that—that already is just revolutionary, looking at how the gut influences the nervous system as well as the endocrine system, all the different systems of the body. There are so many exciting avenues of therapy through that understanding.
Now, exactly what I’m talking about, it’s not a one-way street. -inaudible- not only influences the brain, but just as importantly, the nervous system has these very specific pathways that control gut function.
Dr. Pompa:
Couldn’t agree more.
Dr. Chiu:
That’s the thing. I find that a lot of times, that’s the missing link. Treatments, if it’s a gut-brain issue like diet, supplements, lifestyle, it can totally handle that, and running lab tests and medications, if necessary. When it comes to the brain, the brain’s unique. Not only does it respond to nutrition in the form of food, and supplements, and things like that, and probiotics, it also responds to activation, meaning exercise. We can actually use specific sensory modalities like sight, sound, smell, taste, and touch to target specific neurological pathways.
For example, if someone’s had a head injury and is starting to suffer from lack of concentration, or poor focus, or just feeling kind of brain foggy, many times it’s because their prefrontal lobe has been damaged. The prefrontal lobe’s very important for helping us focus. In addition, the prefrontal lobe’s very important for helping us control and coordinate our movements. If someone has a concussion—I see this all the time. They’re like, “Oh, yeah, I have brain fog. I have all these cognitive symptoms. I’ve been to the doctor. They ran their MRIs, their CT scans, and everything’s normal.”
Then when I see them and I do a neurological evaluation, I might find that when they move their fingers quickly on one side versus the other, one side is slower than the other. The reason why that’s really important—because that’s not only a window into how well they move their fingers. It’s a window into the prefrontal lobe. With that information, it’s—I just love it because they just have this sense of relief. They’re just like, “Oh, my God. I feel so validated because I’ve been to doctor after doctor, and everyone says, ‘There’s nothing wrong. Just rest,’ or, ‘It’s all in your head. You’re crazy. You should see a psychiatrist or take these psychotropic medications.’” I find that so sad.
-inaudible- is once I figure out, hey, they have a problem with their, let’s say, their right prefrontal cortex, which deals with maybe emotional regulation as well as organizing their thoughts, then what I can do, in addition to giving nutrients that feed the brain, like fish oils, and probiotics, and things of that nature, I can also give them very specific brain-based therapies to actually target their right frontal lobe over the left because specificity is so important.
For example, for someone who has got as issue with their right prefrontal lobe—the way they might know that is if they have problems with focus, and concentration, and maybe controlling their emotions. What I can do is very specific movement therapies on the left side of their body, which targets the right prefrontal lobe, or I could give them very specific eye exercises that triggers these neural pathways, literally creating what’s known as neuroplasticity, where you can actually strengthen the neurons in the right prefrontal lobe. That’s the thing. When it comes to the brain, the brain is unique, and not only it needs nutrition, it also needs specific activation.
Dr. Pompa:
Let’s back up because—I know you have five ways to heal a brain after a concussion, and you’re probably -inaudible- into that a little bit. You have a six-week program in your book.
Dr. Chiu:
I just got a little bit excited. I jumped ahead a bit.
Dr. Pompa:
I get excited about it, too, because I get this. You and I are completely on the same page with this. We’re forgetting about the brain as controlling everything in the body. I have gotten amazing results. What I have noted is when people get concussions, a lot of the neurotoxic patients that have inorganic mercury in the brain, it jars it forward. It literally drives it deeper. There’re studies showing that. When you hit your head, the inflammation breaks down other barriers, other protective measures, and then we have a complicating issue.
I know, clinically—I’ve seen that that’s part of it. I know my viewers and listeners are wanting to know this. I’ve hit my head a few times. There’s that saying. Myself, I can remember skiing once where I hit the back of my head. I wasn’t right for a week. How will we know? What kind of test can we do right now, even—like you did the finger thing. What other things can we test right now to see could this be a problem, or do I have to go to a clinic, specifically?
Dr. Chiu:
First off, if someone’s had a head injury and they’re concerned, I think the first thing they should do is go to the emergency room and get checked.
Dr. Pompa:
Of course.
Dr. Chiu:
Yeah because you want to make sure that there’s no bleeds, there’s no emergency situations, which conventional medicine excels at. When it comes to the more chronic degenerative—or neurological conditions like post-concussion syndrome or chronic traumatic encephalopathy, really, the standard of care is just not good enough. Some things that you can do if the viewers out there have had head injuries and even ones that you haven’t blacked out, after you make sure that there’s nothing life threatening going on, simple tests of your own balance.
For example, if you just stand up—if any of your viewers are sitting, you just stand up. If you put your feet close together, you might find that already doing that, you might feel a little unsteady. Especially if you’ve had a head injury, you might feel a little unsteady, but some of you might not. The next thing you can do if you’re watching out there, make sure that you have the ability to—if you just start losing your balance, just open your eyes so you don’t fall over, okay? We don’t want anyone getting injured. The next thing you can do after putting your feet together is just try doing that and then closing your eyes. If you close your eyes, some of -inaudible-.
Dr. Pompa:
-inaudible- on one foot.
Dr. Chiu:
You might find that all of a sudden, whoa, I feel a little unsteady. That’s the thing. When that happens, then we know—there’s three major systems in your nervous system that control balance. It’s vision; it’s what we call the inner ear; then it’s all the muscles. They send information to your brain, telling you, okay, right now, I’m standing here, and I’m getting this information, so I’m not feeling unsteady. If you remove vision by closing your eyes, if there’s an imbalance in your inner ear or if there’s an imbalance in your muscle signals, that means that—and you start to wobble—that one of those systems, it’s a bit off.
It’s functional. It’s not like you can’t walk around the world, and you’re falling over, but you might find that—a lot of patients who I worked with with concussion, they just say, “Yeah, something’s just not off. I just feel like sometimes I’m either floating, or I just don’t feel very grounded.” Usually, that’s because of the inner ear or the muscles. This is a great objective test to find out that maybe something’s a little bit out of balance that needs to be addressed.
Dr. Pompa:
When I close it and do one foot and then close my eyes, it’s harder. Can you -inaudible-
Dr. Chiu:
Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, exactly, I can see you’re a little bit more unsteady.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s one foot.
Dr. Chiu:
-inaudible- do. I’m glad you brought that up because let’s say the viewers out there, if they try that, put their feet together, close their eyes, and they still feel pretty balanced, maybe a little off, you could then try with your one foot versus the other. We can actually then—for example, if you’re balancing on your right foot and it’s harder than your left, that’s a clue that maybe what we call the cerebellum on your right side or the parietal lobe or frontal lobe on the left, there’s some imbalance there. That’s very subtle, but that’s the thing, Dr. Dan.
Many times, that’s the key that cracks the case for my patients with concussions. It’s these subtleties that—because a lot of times, they’re not incapacitated where they can’t get out of bed, but they might feel dizzy when they’re driving in a car or when they’re in a grocery store walking down the aisle. They might feel overwhelmed. Their light and sounds are just a little bit too much. It’s these subtleties because they’re subtle imbalances in what I call the neural networks, the different brain regions, that allow for us to balance, to focus, to not be irritated by light or sound.
Dr. Pompa:
When you said light, that was one of my questions. What about light sensitivity, sound sensitivity? Those are symptoms that I see in neurotoxic people in general, even chemical sensitivities. Is that made worse by the brain being out of balance?
Dr. Chiu:
Absolutely, and very specifically, there’s key neural networks that create that light or sound sensitivity. One of them is what we call the mesencephalon. I talked about the brain stem earlier. The brain stem’s just this really important part of your nervous system between your brain and your spinal cord that controls vital functions like we talked about, like heart rate, digestive function, reproduction, all that stuff.
At the top of the brain stem, it’s this area we call the midbrain. It’s the top of the brain stem. That controls what we call the ascending reticular activating system. That allows us to have arousal. One of the ways we get arousal is through what? Light and sound. If the midbrain is out of balance—and many times, people with, like you said, neurotoxicity, or what I call immunoexcitotoxicity, which is what happens in a concussion—that area becomes overactive. Any little light coming in, any little sound coming in just arouses the person too much, and they just feel overwhelmed, or irritable, or sometimes even angry, I find.
That’s the thing. Another test that people can do to see if their mesencephalon’s out of balance is if they take a light, maybe a light from their phone or a flashlight—if they shine it in their eye from their right hand field of view versus the left, you might find that one side, you might feel a little more irritated or a little more light-sensitive than the other, or maybe both sides, meaning that both sides of your brain stem is just overactive. That’s a really good objective way to see, maybe I need to do things to calm down my brain stem. In doing so, it can help with the light and sound sensitivity.
I really like the fact that you brought that up, Dr. Dan, about a lot of patients you see with neurotoxicity, they get the light and sound sensitivity. Guess what? The mesencephalon, that top part of your brain stem, it actually has receptors for inflammatory molecules, what we call interleukin 6. Interleukin 6 is a pro-inflammatory cytokine. It’s a messenger that causes inflammation in the body and in the brain. The midbrain, the mesencephalon, actually has a huge density of receptors for them, meaning—let’s say, for example, someone has a gut imbalance.
Maybe they have constipation, or they have some type of gut infection. That can cause inflammation not only in their body, but that can also cause inflammation in their brain. If chemicals from the gut, the interleukin 6, goes to the brain stem in the mesencephalon, that neurotoxicity from the gut can lead to guess what? Light and sound sensitivity. When I work with patients, we do things that help lower inflammation, many of the similar things you do, detoxification, supplements, running lab tests to identify other root causes of inflammation.
At the same time, physical things you can do to help calm an overactive mesencephalon or brain stem is to plug your ears or to wear sunglasses. Like I said, the midbrain, it processes lights and sounds. One way to calm an overactive mesencephalon is to either wear sunglasses or to plug your ears. A lot of times, there’ll be a -inaudible-. That’s why I said, you listeners out there, you might want to shine a light from the right side versus the left and see if one of them creates a little bit more irritation or light sensitivity, one side versus the other.
Let’s say it’s the right field of view. What you can do is we can wear sunglasses, but in addition, you can take an earplug and plug your right ear. That’ll help calm down that overactive mesencephalon. That was what I was saying earlier. The brain and the nervous system’s unique. Not only does it respond to things like fish oils, probiotics, all those wonderful things; it also responds to your senses. If you have an area that’s too active, all you need to do is calm it down. If you have an area that’s underactive, you need to do things to activate and stimulate it.
Dr. Pompa:
Let’s peel back your six-week program and -inaudible- five things you can do to heal your brain after a trauma. Let’s give our viewers and listeners some real concrete things here. What does that look like? Okay, great. Some of you are doing the tests right now watching this and going, “Oh-oh. I can’t even stand on two feet close let alone one foot. If I close my eyes, forget it. That light thing? Yeah, that really irritates me.” They’re identifying that they have a problem. Now what?
Dr. Chiu:
Sure, so in my book, I actually walk people through an entire six-week program. It’s cool because in my book, I even talk about before that, making it personalized. More important, as you know, Dr. Dan, than the treatment is identifying the root cause. In my book, I talk about the root cause of post-concussion syndrome and its what I call these imbalances in the different neural networks that make up your nervous system.
One of the top neural networks that gets injured in a concussion, as we already talked about, the prefrontal lobe. Check it out. In my book, I actually have a little quiz where a person, if they have a head injury, they can be like, “Do I suffer from brain fog? If I do, is it mild, moderate, or severe?” You can actually grade it, and then you figure out, “Oh, wow, at the end of it, I have a score of 50. That means, wow, there’s an issue in my prefrontal lobe, so I’ll need to do something about that.” That’s in part one of the book.
Part three of the book is the actual six-week plan. Let’s say you found that you had issues with the prefrontal lobe. There is a very specific exercise in my book that you can do to exercise your prefrontal lobe. That’s actually a meditation procedure—a meditation from Kundalini yoga.
Let’s say, for example, you do the quiz. You have brain fog. You have issues with concentration. You might have issues organizing your thoughts or controlling your emotions. That’s a big yellow—red flag that you have an issue in the neural network made up of your prefrontal lobe. One thing you can do is this meditation where you just go like this with your fingers. With your thumb and index finger, you do one, and then you do two, and you do three, and four just in that order, so index, middle, ring, pinky. You just do that.
Then what you want to do, you want to add these words, Sa, Ta, Na, Ma. You coordinate the index with Sa. Then when you say Ta, you do the middle finger. When you say Sa, Ta, Na, the ring finger, and Ma for the pinky, so Sa, Ta, Na, Ma, Sa, Ta, Na, Ma. You can do that seated. I like to do that walking, actually, while I’m listening to music so I can get a lot of blood flow and oxygen to my brain. The cool thing—
Dr. Pompa:
What’s the point of—you’re stimulating one part of the brain by making it do a verbal connection, and then you’re stimulating the other—frontal cortex by making it do an actual -inaudible-
Dr. Chiu:
Yeah, you got it. When you speak, what allows you to actually express language is this area we call Broca’s area in your frontal lobe. Then when you do fine movements with your fingers, guess what area lights up, as well? The frontal lobe, as well. When we do these two together, we’re really powerfully activating the prefrontal cortex, so Sa, Ta, Na, Ma, Sa, Ta, Na, Ma. If you have a lot of high scores in your prefrontal lobe, that means there’s probably a real big issue there. I don’t recommend people doing that for too long because although it seems very small, it is a very powerful way of activating the prefrontal lobe.
There is an actual research study—I actually reference it in my book—where they look at people doing this and literally lighting up the frontal lobe. It’s a very powerful thing. A lot of the exercises that I talk about in my book, they might seem trivial, but if your brain is already neurotoxic from your concussion and there’s a lot of inflammation, many times, less is more. In my book, I also talk about this really important concept of guess what? Slowing down. That’s the thing. Even for the viewers out there who haven’t had concussions, this one tip that I talk about in my book, which I call mini breaks, can literally transform your life.
I know, for me, and I would imagine maybe you, we sometimes get really focused. We get really excited about our projects and making an impact in the world. I could sit down and just work for 8, 10 hours straight. Not after I had my head injury. I had to do a lot to heal my own brain. Now, I could sit down for hours without even taking a break, but that’s not good. We all go through these cycles, which we call ultradian rhythms, where we have about—we have a lot of energy. If our brains are healthy, we have a lot of energy for about 90 minutes. When it comes to about two hours, we start to go down. We start to go down in terms of our energy levels, our brain capacity.
Many of us, myself included before I started doing this practice, I would blaze through that, 30 minutes where I actually needed to step back from whatever I was doing and take a mini break. We all can do that, but it’s at the expense of creating more toxicity in our brains because we drive what’s known as the fight or flight response, we release cortisol, adrenaline, all those things.
In addition, another thing that people can do who’ve had head injuries or even people who haven’t but kind of can relate to what I’m saying—it’s like getting really focused on something and not taking a break are what I call mini breaks. The point of that is to really unplug and kind of clear the synaptic clutter that’s collected between your brain cells within that 90 minutes of focused attention. For every 90 minutes, what I encourage you guys to do first is, if you haven’t done this before—actually, if you’re sitting down at your desk to start working or focusing on something, set your alarm for 90 minutes.
When it goes off, finish that sentence you’re writing or reading, or if you’re having a conversation with someone, just kind of wrap that up, and just step away from that. The point of these mini breaks is it can’t involve any type of focused attention. It could be something as simple as—what I do a lot is just close my eyes and rub my eyeballs because that can actually trigger the parasympathetic nervous system to calm the fight or flight -inaudible-. I just close my eyes. You’ll see a lot of kids doing that. Sometimes when I get really tired, I’ll just—I’ll catch myself rubbing my eyeballs because I need that mini break. My brain, it’s over-saturated.
Dr. Pompa:
-inaudible-
Dr. Chiu:
Yeah, but what it actually does, it triggers a neurological reflex that calms the fight or flight response down.
Dr. Pompa:
You’re right, though. Innate intelligence makes us do -inaudible-. When I’ve been doing stuff for a while, I automatically start doing that. It’s incredible. We just -inaudible-
Dr. Chiu:
Yeah, beautiful. That’s the thing, Dr. Dan. The key is it’s about awareness. After a while, if you set it in your clock for 90 minutes, you’re going to start becoming aware. I don’t set it in my clock anymore, but I might find that if I’m in a conversation, even though it’s an interesting conversation, I start getting a little distracted. That means it’s time for me to have a mini break. I might excuse myself, be like, “Hey, I just need a second. I’m going to stretch.”
People out there, they might find if they’re focusing on something and they start getting fidgety, just stretching a little bit or just stretching their arms and yawning, that’s their brain—that’s your brain telling you, okay, it’s time for a mini break. Believe it or not, that’s one of the most powerful things I’ve shared with my patients who’ve had head injuries; not even patients with head injuries, but more like neurological symptoms. That’s been a lifesaver.
Dr. Pompa:
What about ADD, the opposite, where people are like, “Are you kidding me? Ninety minutes? I can’t focus for 10.” I have a lot of neurotoxic lead patients here in the house. We won’t mention any names. I have to break myself up. Like you, I can focus for hours at a time, and purposely, I have to break it up, but them, it’s 10 minute, 5 minute, 1 minute. What about that? Is there anything we can do for that?
Dr. Chiu:
It’s the same concept, Dr. Dan. When I said 90 minutes, I meant for people who have had—who haven’t had concussions or have healed from their concussions like I have. A lot of my patients with head injuries or patients who have neural inflammation, they might only be able to go for five, ten minutes without -inaudible-. What they need to do is also honor that.
I find a lot of my patients who’ve had head injuries, they get frustrated because they might have been able to focus for hours on end, but all of a sudden, they go five minutes, and they have a headache. The key, again, is just self-awareness, number one, becoming aware of that. When is that sweet spot for you? Is it 90 minutes? Is it 10 minutes? Number two, just honoring that. If you’ve had a head injury and you can’t focus very long anymore, that’s okay because your brain is inflamed, and it’s really—it makes sense that you can’t.
For people who have never been able to do that, the other thing is—what would be really helpful for them is actually doing the frontal lobe finger tap because then it trains the frontal lobe to actually start allowing them to have better focus and attention. It’s really fascinating. I’m going to geek out just for a second here. There’s two key neural networks that are involved in what I’m talking about. One is called the central executive network. That allows us to really have great focus and concentration.
People with ADD or ADHD, guess what, those neural networks are a bit weak. What they need are exercises and therapies to strengthen those. The central executive network is—one major hub is the prefrontal cortex. Exercises like the Sa, Ta, Na, Ma meditation works fantastic for people with issues with ADD, or inattention, things like that.
Dr. Pompa:
I’d like to get my wife in here. We’re going to do some Sa, Ta, Na, Ma. Anyway—
Dr. Chiu:
Then the other neural network, which is really important, that I’m talking about here is called the default mode network. That’s kind of like the standby mode of our brains. In the past, scientists used to think when we’d space out or not do anything that required a lot of focus, our brains would just shut off. That couldn’t be further from the truth. What actually happens, the central executive network that’s tied up with the frontal lobe, that shuts off, but guess what? The default mode network powers up. It’s beautiful, though.
The default mode network is the neural network that’s related to healing, integration, to creativity, and insight. You might find that a lot of people with “ADD,” their gift is to be able to see the bigger picture and tie into all these different things related to insight and creativity. What I find, it’s all about balance. I’m really good at the central executive network, focusing in. I used to try to—like if I had a problem where I was trying to be creative or come up with a solution, I thought, oh, the more I work at it harder and harder, I’d finally get that insight.
Isaac Newton, when did he discover the law of gravity or whatever? It was when he was chilling out under the tree and the apple fell on his head—is because the default mode network was activating, allowing all those—the energy put in, all the ideas that was percolating to start to come together and integrate.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s so true. I often notice when I’m doing something that slightly distracts my conscious mind, meaning driving, showering, -inaudible- things start firing. You know what I mean? I’m being slightly distracted. When you’re driving, of course, a lot of visual stuff, showering, just physical as touch, and then boom. Ideas come.
Dr. Chiu:
Yeah, they start to come. It’s because your default mode network related more to that right hemisphere of the brain starts to come to life. It’s just magic. It’s so important, again, not only for creativity, but for healing, and that’s what I’m talking about. People who might have had really good ability to focus and concentrate before their head injury or before some neurotoxic event, they might not be able to do that as much because they’re still trying to tax their attention networks. What they actually need to do is allow their default mode network, the healing network, to start to come to life more.
The way to do that, again, is to start becoming aware of the need for mini breaks. Is it every 90 minutes that you start to get a little kind of brain foggy, or is it every 15 minutes? When you start to become aware of that, you need to honor that. Just step back. Exactly, close your eyes, rub them, stretch. Take a break, and if you have the luxury, take a nap. I’ve started to chunk out days outside of patients when I’m writing or working on videos and education materials where I’ll literally allow myself, if I’ve done—work really hard, I’ll find a nice patch of grass if it’s nice out, lie down in that patch of grass, close my eyes, and do this yoga pose where I just let everything go and let my mind wander.
A lot of times, if I’m in this—if I have a lot of ideas that I’m trying to capture and I don’t want to lose them, that’s the attention network going. The point is even if you’re lying down and you’re closing your eyes, if you have a lot of great ideas, don’t try to hold on to any of them. The more you do that, the more the attention networks become tired, and then you actually become less productive and less creative.
One other way to allow the default mode network, besides these mini breaks like closing your eyes and rubbing them, is in those times, let your mind wander. If you’re just kind of done, and you’re tired, you’re yawning, you’re fidgety, just sit there, and just let your mind wander. Look out the window. If ideas come to your head, just let them come in, and just like if they were a cloud passing by, let them pass by. Then you allow the healing—you allow the integration and the insight to happen.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s funny hearing you speak about this because you understand the neurology so well and have obviously—
Dr. Chiu:
I’m a neurology nerd. I’ll -inaudible-
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, which is so cool. All right, give us more. There’s a six-week program. There’s obviously five things to do after a concussion. You’re hitting on some of them. Keep going. What next?
Dr. Chiu:
Yeah, absolutely. Just to kind of recap, there’s things that are very important to exercise your brain and to rebuild the neural networks that might have been injured, number one, like the Sa, Ta, Na, Ma. There’s things that you can do to help healing, and integration, and wholeness happen, and that’s by slowing down and doing something like taking a brain save mini break. Number three, there’s things that you can do in terms of what we kind of talked about before, lower any type of inflammation or what we call excitotoxicity -inaudible-
Dr. Pompa:
This is where my brain detox would come in because you can’t stop the inflammation if you don’t remove the toxins.
Dr. Chiu:
Absolutely.
Dr. Pompa:
-inaudible- detox incorrectly, especially when it comes to the brain. Honestly, we have thousands of people watching this right now who got their lives back by getting rid of the neurotoxins in the brain the right way.
Dr. Chiu:
Yeah, exactly, with the programs through the cellular detox. That is essential because when I’m talking about building neural networks and doing these exercises, if we’re doing that and the systems—if the person’s brain is inflamed or toxic, it’s like we’re building bridges, but overnight, nighttime, they get burned down.
Dr. Pompa:
You know what? This excites me because this needs to be done while they’re doing brain detox, right? It’s like, yeah, you put those things together because you still have to fire and rewire. We can get rid of toxins, but if we don’t rewire the bridges—we still need to make new bridges. That’s what I’m talking about. We’d have to fire and rewire.
Dr. Chiu:
Both are so essential to brain healing. I like to use the analogy, it’s like I’m doing personal training for a person’s brain. For example, the viewers out there, if they had a goal of wanting to lose weight, they might go to a personal trainer who understands exercise and also understands nutrition. If a personal trainer gives them a diet and supplements to lower inflammation, guess what? They’ll probably lose weight, but are they going to build muscles just by changing their diet?
No, you actually have to do the exercise. You have to do push-ups, and pull-ups, and squats. Same thing with the brain. That’s what I was talking about. The brain is unique in that not only do we need to do things to lower inflammation and toxins, we actually need to do things that actually target neural networks through therapies and/or exercises.
Like you said, Dr. Dan, if a person’s inflamed, if they’re toxic, and we’re trying to build with exercises, you’re going to build that, but then overnight, it’s going to burn down. Another really important thing to do as you’re going through the six-week plan to heal your brain—I talk about in my book more specifics—is lower neural inflammation. We can do that through diet and supplements.
As all the viewers know out there, very important nutrient for brain health to help actually grow the connections, but also lower their inflammation is what we can docosahexaenoic acid. That’s DHA, which is found in very high levels in fish oils. Unfortunately, though, a lot of the world’s sources of fish, not only are they -inaudible-
Dr. Pompa:
I’m going to be honest with you. I’m more a fan of fish than fish oil. There’s a lot of reasons for that we won’t discuss.
Dr. Chiu:
Exactly, but yeah, it’s very saddening. The good news is there’s things we can do. There’s high-quality supplements out there that, really, the companies pay attention to purity, quality, and safety. If you can’t find a really good source of clean fish, my next recommendation is upping your dosage of fish oils, more specifically, docosahexaenoic acid. There’s vegan sources out there, things like algae and whatnot, as well, that vegans can use.
Dr. Pompa:
There’s a counter-thought to it. I pay attention to the ratio of omega 3 to omega 6.
Dr. Chiu:
Yeah, absolutely.
Dr. Pompa:
We purposely target a 4:1 ratio for the brain. There’s a couple of shows I’ve done on the dangers of fish oil, talking about some of those issues, but I don’t want to get side-tracked on that right now. I do want to say this: What about some of the other things? There’s a product I’m experimenting with. It’s the lion’s mane mushroom. There’s one that’s sulphoraphanes that we’re running some tests on. Both of those are nootropics, if you will. They have a dramatic effect on the brain. There’s some other ones that you love.
Dr. Chiu:
Yeah, I’m glad you brought those up because, yeah, I just love nutrition and supplements because I think food as medicine is not only powerful, but also very yummy. Lion’s mane has been shown to activate nerve growth factors and [BDNF], and then the sulphoraphanes, there’s actually studies for—it was an animal study, but still, it can translate into human studies. After there was a head injury, by taking sulphoraphane, it actually helped rebuild the blood-brain barrier.
Other polyphenols, very important, like curcumin, found in turmeric, like the curry spice, so you can get it through food. You can also get it through high-quality supplements. What happens, very briefly, in a head injury—it’s an answer to a question you had earlier. What happens in a head injury? Not only is there a physical trauma, but there’s also a chemical trauma, that immunoexcitotoxicity. Toxins are released in the brain that you actually—your own brain cells holds them, but if they’re released in too high amounts, we call them excitotoxicities, glutamate.
Dr. Pompa:
Glutamate’s -inaudible-
Dr. Chiu:
Anything you can do to help calm down an excitotoxic brain—and people watching out there, they’re like, “What does that mean?” If you have light or sound sensitivity or you get irritable after your head injury, most likely, you might have excitotoxicity happening in your brain. One thing you can do to help calm that down is taking magnesium. It’s one of the master minerals, especially what we call magnesium threonate, which allows the magnesium—
Dr. Pompa:
That’s what we use.
Dr. Chiu:
Yeah, perfect. We’re totally on the same page. I love it. Those are really important things. You can get magnesium from a lot of leafy green vegetables, but if your brain is immunotoxic, you’ll want to do that in conjunction with taking magnesium threonate.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s what we do, yeah, because it crosses the blood-brain barrier. I know GABA has—and taurine have a play on that pathway, as well.
Dr. Chiu:
Absolutely, yeah. GABA helps to calm down any over-activity of brain cells, which—it’s kind of paradoxical. You think, oh, if your brain is injured, it should start shutting down. It doesn’t. It actually first becomes overactive, and that’s why you have the light/sound sensitivity and the irritability. You want to do things to help calm it down, just like you’re saying.
GABA can work really well, anything that helps support the GABAergic pathways, magnesium threonate, and things that lower inflammation, like DHA, fish oils, and again, making sure that the omega 3 to 6 ratio’s in -inaudible- balance, as well as looking at EPA versus DHA. That’s where, Dr. Dan, it’s really about also personalization.
Dr. Pompa:
I don’t want to put you on the spot, but do you know anything about NMDA receptors, N-methyl-D-aspartate? There are -inaudible- in the spinal cord, as you mentioned, the upper spine—in the brain stem, I should say. They fire that pathway, and there’s basically a negative feedback that drives inflammation continually unless you downregulate it. What do you know about that pathway?
Dr. Chiu:
NMDA, that’s so important. It’s kind of like when, in health, it’s crucial for neuroplasticity. What ends up happening, neuroplasticity is a beautiful, amazing ability for our brains to change structure, and when you change its structure, you change the function. When you change the function of the brain, you change your experience with the world. We can do that through our different experiences.
In order for neuroplasticity to actually happen at the cellular level, though, the nerves signal our experience. For example, remember when I was talking about lowering the level of light or sound coming in? That’s going to help deactivate the NMDA receptor in the mesencephalon. Like you said, if a person is already overactive and there’s too much feedback, you need to calm that down.
On the flipside of that, if a person has—their prefrontal lobe isn’t working very well, and they have attention issues, they have ADD, or they feel distracted in their brain fog, you want to actually activate the NMDA receptors. What ends up happening when you do the Sa, Ta, Na, Ma, guess what? You’re firing a very powerful pathway from your nerve receptors in your fingers, runs up your spinal cord, synapses or makes a stop in your cerebellum, then crosses over into your right prefrontal lobe.
When you do your left finger movements, you activate NMD receptors in your right prefrontal cortex. If the stimulus is strong enough, the NMDA receptor—this is where magnesium comes in. Normally, the NMDA receptor is blocked by magnesium. If you activate it powerfully enough by doing the Sa, Ta, Na, Ma with focused attention, you remove the magnesium block, and then you allow calcium to come in, which leads to neuroplasticity. I can geek out in all the cellular mechanisms. That’s the thing. It’s about finding that balance.
For some people—and I said this earlier—if their prefrontal lobe is not strong enough, you need to do things that activate the NMDA receptor. For example, if they have problems with focus, attention, you want to do things that actually exercise the frontal lobe. On the flipside, if someone’s had a concussion or they’re neurotoxic and they have light and sound sensitivity, those NMDA receptors are already overactive because the magnesium is released. Guess what we use? Magnesium threonate to plug that, calm that down. Put on the sunglasses. Put in the earplug. That calms things down.
While we’re driving the frontal lobe pathway, there’s actually a very specific pathway that connects the frontal lobe with the mesencephalon, the brain stem. When we create and strengthen the frontal lobe, that calms down the fight or flight response in the mesencephalon. All this has to work together in conjunction just like what you said, just what I lay out in my six-week plan. We have to do things that activate the brain by activating NMDA receptors. We have to do things that rest the brain by calming down NMDA receptors. We have to do things to remove toxins by plugging up the NMDA receptors and magnesium. We have to do things that lower inflammation, things like fish oil, DHA, and other clean sources.
Then finally, the fifth thing that we can do, in addition, just like you said, is really removing the toxins. In my book, one of the chapters actually—in the six-week plan is—week five is take out the trash—I think you’ll like that one—where we remove toxins, not only when me immobilize toxins. We actually need to sweat them out. We need to poop them out. We need to make sure that all of the routes for toxins to get out of the body are optimized, so gut health is optimized and using sweat.
In our practice, we use an infrared sauna. If people don’t have that at home, they can go to their local gym, sit in the sauna, and sweat. If you haven’t done this before and you’ve had a head injury, I don’t recommend doing it for more than five minutes at a time. You know how that is. If you don’t have access to the sauna, even doing something as simple as taking an Epsom salt bath, that helps -inaudible-
Dr. Pompa:
I recommend all these things. All -inaudible-
Dr. Chiu:
We’re totally on the same page. I love it. Those are the top five things I can recommend for people out there. Again, like I said before, the key is personalization. What might work for one person might not work for another, or it might work, but maybe not at the same dosage. Maybe you need a lot more fish oils. Maybe you need to spend less time doing mini breaks and more time sweating, things like that. They key is personalization.
That’s why I’m really excited about the book because in the book, there are quizzes that help people get to the root cause of why they’re struggling with their head injuries and figure out what are the specific regions of the brain that might need more activation, need more rest. In addition, at the end of the book is this six-week plan with exercises to target those areas, as well as things to do to help lower inflammation, help to clear out toxicity, and programs like yours, as well, go into deep depth with detoxification, which is so important.
Dr. Pompa:
We have a preparatory phase. Then we have a body phase. Then we build them to the brain phase, and that’s where we’re using things like—
Dr. Chiu:
Yeah, exactly. You got to do it in the right order.
Dr. Pompa:
CytoDetox, actually, some of the particles cross into the blood-brain barrier; some do not, purposely. Then we also match it with alpha-lipoic acid in the brain phase because we want to bring in fat solubles—chelators to actually move the stuff out of the brain. Then we have—we’ve prepared the downstream. We grab it in the gut so you don’t reabsorb.
Admittedly, I haven’t read the book yet, but you better send it to me because I really want to read it. I’ve read your stuff, obviously, but I haven’t read the book. I can’t wait because I think that I’ll get a lot of really amazing ideas on things that we need to be doing to really help with the [neuroplasty] a lot. Putting the detox together with this, I think there’s a lot of magic there. I have a question for you.
Dr. Chiu:
-inaudible- right?
Dr. Pompa:
This question, it’s maybe off topic. I can’t wait to hear your response. How do you think that EMF plays into this? EMF, we know, has an effect on the NMDA receptors, the calcium channels, and what it’s doing. This is another form of toxin today that’s—at least the levels that we’re exposed to is new to humans. What do you think about that?
Dr. Chiu:
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Really, at the end of the day, we’re all energy. Even when we talk about all of these physical receptors, it’s because they’re vibrating. It’s not so much like this physical -inaudible- happens, the vibration interactions. EMFs can be really, really a huge obstacle to people healing from brain injuries. The interesting thing is I think EMFs, they do—they have really subtle, yet powerful impacts on human physiology. What I see almost all the time is after a head injury, a lot of people become a lot more sensitive to the EMFs.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s basically why I asked, and I was going to make that comment, that clinically, that’s what I see. What’s going on there?
Dr. Chiu:
A lot of it—again, it goes back to what’s actually happening at the NMDA receptors. If I had a white board—I used to teach neurology, like I said before. There’s what’s known as this action potential that happens where a neuron, before it becomes excited, has to cross a certain threshold. Normally, our brain cells shouldn’t be so reactive. They should be like a chill, kind of like—we have a Rhodesian Ridgeback. She’s a very sweet and calm dog. She doesn’t really react to much unless there’s a danger or something.
Imagine normally when our brain cells and our NMDA receptors are healthy, it’s like a nice, cool, relaxed dog that only responds when it needs to, whereas after a head injury, the cells sit a lot closer to threshold, meaning the Rhodesian Ridgeback becomes more like Chihuahua with an AK-47. Any little stimuli, whether it’s light, sound, which is a form of energy just like EMFs are—a lot of patients after a concussion, because their neurons are sitting what we call a lot closer to threshold, meaning any little stimulus will trigger them. Have you seen at the carnivals—in the past, they used to have these games called The Strong Man.
Dr. Pompa:
Oh, yeah, of course.
Dr. Chiu:
Yeah, where you hit the bell. If you hit the thing strong enough, it rings the bell. Normally, it’s like when you hit that bell, only if it’s really strong and it really should bring our attention like if it’s some danger thing or something that really is exciting to us, we bring our attention to—our brain gets activated.
What ends up happening is that bell then, rather than being all the way down here, it sits here so any—if you breathe on the trigger, it rings the bell, and over, and over, and over, people get exhausted. Again, it really boils down to it’s just energy, whether that could be light, that could be sound, that could be these EMFs. I think one of the solutions is, yeah, absolutely, we need to—because who knows what it’s doing in the long run to our physiology. This is a massive science experiment, which is a bit frightening.
What we can do to protect ourselves is everything that you talk about through cellular detoxification, everything that I’m talking about through brain exercise. When we do that, we then bring ourselves further away from threshold. If we want to talk about it at the cellular level, we bring those NMDA receptors further from threshold by plugging the magnesium, by lower inflammation, and through exercise so we become more resilient. Absolutely, I think, especially for people who’ve had head injuries, you want to avoid EMFs as much as possible, which is pretty hard these days.
What you can do is what I do because I’ve had head injuries, and I’m somewhat sensitive to this stuff, I always turn my phone off if I’m not using it. I keep it far away from my brain, far away from my family jewels, the most important organs, my heart. Then if I do use it, I’ll use a speakerphone.
Dr. Pompa:
I always do.
Dr. Chiu:
Yeah, exactly. The way I look at it is it’s just kind of a necessary evil these days, but then what I do is I try to spend as much time as I can in nature lying in a patch of grass because that helps lower the threshold of -inaudible-
Dr. Pompa:
That’s what I’ve found. It is all about the threshold because it’s all about adaptation, isn’t it, meaning that people do what they can to survive. If it’s near that threshold, you’re going to be reactive to everything because it’s trying to survive. If we can lower the threshold, physical, chemical, emotional, electromagnetic, -inaudible- the threshold. We have to hit all of it to lower that threshold -inaudible- not as reactive, number one, but number two, then once you get near that threshold, I always say you’re creating more damage. Your pocket’s overflowing, so you drive the inflammation. We have to empty the stress bucket, the -inaudible- threshold bucket, and really, paying attention to all of these things is the key.
Dr. Chiu:
They’re all so important because it all adds up. What I shared with you guys earlier with the brain save mini break, that’s one way of lowering that mental threshold.
Dr. Pompa:
I was just going to say that. You’re lowering the threshold.
Dr. Chiu:
It clears that, and especially if you take a mini break. Then what I try to do is we try to—because we live really close to this gorgeous regional park, Tilden Park. We try to get out there at least once a week and go for a hike where we don’t have any goals in mind. We’re just meandering, or just soaking up nature, and just clearing all the excessive energetic gunk that’s collected over the week.
People who don’t have that luxury where they live really close to a national park, they can just start filling their homes with plants. Aloe vera has been shown to actually increase oxygenation at night, so get an aloe vera plant. Put it in your bedroom, and you help to bring oxygenation to your brain and help to clear out a lot of that gunk that you’re talking about.
Dr. Pompa:
I’m sure you have a zillion more little tips in your book. Where do you get the book? What’s your website, and where do they find it?
Dr. Chiu:
Yeah, great. My book is called Brain SAVE: A Six-Week Plan to Heal Your Brain from Concussion, Brain Injuries, and Head Traumas Without Drugs or Surgery. The viewers out there, they can actually just go on Amazon, and the paperback was just released. Oh, my God, I’m so happy. It’s just a whole other thing that—like in April, the digital copy released. That was exciting, but when I actually got the physical proof, it was like, oh, man. It’s a whole other thing.
Yeah, I encourage you guys, share in this joy with me. Get a physical copy and just feel it, and share it with people who you think would benefit from it. Even if you’ve never had a head injury, I’m sure you know someone out there -inaudible- been in a car accident or even been on a roller coaster, and gotten shaken up a bit, and aren’t the same after that. This book can change their life. They can get that on Amazon, and they can learn more about me and my unique approach to root-cause neurology on my website, www.DrTitusChiu.com.
Dr. Pompa:
Thanks, Dr. Chiu. Wow, great stuff. Like you said, this is a show people are going to want to share because there’re so many people—1.1 billion suffering. It’ll lead to mental disease, honestly, and that’s what you have to understand.
Dr. Chiu:
I hope we have another conversation in the future. This has been such a pleasure where we can dive into that, the link between—because you kind of asked me earlier and I didn’t get a chance to answer that, the link between head injuries and psychological symptoms.
Dr. Pompa:
I almost brought it back there, but for the sake—let me make you a promise. I’m going to read the book, and I’m going to have you back on the show. How’s that?
Dr. Chiu:
I would be honored, yeah. Thank you so much for inviting me.
Dr. Pompa:
Sometimes it’s almost good because if I would have read it, I’d jump into details because I remember practically everything I read, so -inaudible- nuances. Invariably, I ask everything that I’m interested in, and I—when I kind of go in a little more naked, I ask what the viewers would ask, I hope, so it’s good. Part two, I’m going to ask the in-depth questions, and I’m going to be really down into it. This is an important subject. It’s definitely about the brain, period—is a fascination of mine. Thank you for being on, Dr. Chiu. I appreciate you, and we’re going to have you on again.
Dr. Chiu:
You’re welcome. I appreciate you, too. Thank you.
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