Episode 246: Fasting, Autophagy, and Glowing Skin
With Naomi Whittel
Ashley:
Hello, everyone. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m Ashley Smith. Today’s episode was recorded on location in Las Vegas where Naomi Whittel was a keynote speaker at Dr. Pompa’s Live It to Lead It seminar. Today, they’ll share with you some of the amazing highlights of her speech. They’ll dive deep on all things fasting, and autophagy, glowing skin, and aging. Naomi Whittel is widely recognized as the one to watch in the “wellness from within” space. Named by Prevention the nation’s leading female innovator in the natural products industry, Naomi is hailed as a trailblazer and an advocate of purity and potency in nutraceuticals. Naomi continues to deliver on her promise to help millions thrive with award-winning supplements they know will truly help them. Naomi is the author of the book, Glow 15: A Science-Based Plan to Lose Weight, Revitalize Your Skin, and Invigorate Your Life. She’s the creator of the docuseries, The Real Skinny on Fat.
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Dr. Pompa and Naomi Whittel to the show. This is Cellular Healing TV.
Dr. Pompa:
Naomi, welcome to Cell TV.
Naomi Whittel:
It’s so great to be here, Dr. Pompa. Thank you for having me.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, and actually, folks, this is a really special occasion. You can tell I’m on location, but you’re speaking here at the seminar, the Live It to Lead It seminar. We’ve had amazing speakers and you’re one of them.
Naomi Whittel:
Unbelievable, mind-blowing. Oh well, thank you so much. Really, I’m honored and thrilled to be able to speak here today.
Dr. Pompa:
You already spoke to our platinum group of doctors. They loved it. They heard my respect and admiration of you; they did.
Naomi Whittel:
Oh, thank you.
Dr. Pompa:
I said, “You have to meet this woman. Even from a health standpoint, her knowledge.” Most of that came from pain to purpose.
Naomi Whittel:
Yes, absolutely.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I know you have a story and I’ll let you share some of that. Even from the business side of things, wait until you hear. You heard her bio; doesn’t do it justice. I have to just start with this and you can pull in your story, but you’re responsible for two major products that they’ve all heard about: Resveratrol and collagen coming into this country and becoming pop—that’s you.
Naomi Whittel:
Totally, 100%.
Dr. Pompa:
Tell them that story.
Naomi Whittel:
Okay, so I have an insatiable curiosity and I have suffered my entire—
Dr. Pompa:
We’re the same on that.
Naomi Whittel:
Yeah, absolutely. It’s like the curiosity drives me.
Dr. Pompa:
Me, too.
Naomi Whittel:
My passions have always been around health and wellbeing. It’s not because I didn’t have an advantage when I was born. I was born literally on a biodynamic farm in Switzerland. My father is a chemist.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s incredible.
Naomi Whittel:
Everything that was put into my body was natural, organic, and safe; and yet, I suffered from such high inflammation that my body—that eczema would cover my hands, cover my body. It would bleed. It would puss. I would wear things like this all the time because I never wanted anyone to see my skin because it was so really truly disgusting. It affected my sense of wellbeing.
I remember as I was a young teenager, it was the springtime. I was getting ready to go to the spring dance. I had my eyes set on this one particular boy that I thought not only would he take me to the dance, but then we would get married later on. I had this whole idea. My mother had said to me that time, “You know, you should be wearing a t-shirt and shorts. You don’t need to always be running around covered up. Your friends like you. You have more self-confidence; go for it.” She was wrong. He didn’t take me to the dance.
Dr. Pompa:
Ah, heartbreaking.
Naomi Whittel:
Yes, and it affected me so deeply in that moment.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, totally.
Naomi Whittel:
It was so huge. I made a commitment to myself at that point. I was like, I don’t care. I had only used natural organic products, homeopathy, never gone to a conventional doctor, none of that. I made a commitment. I’m like, I’m going to do whatever it takes. I’ll use those steroid creams. I’ll suppress it, whatever it is. Ultimately, over the years, I came back to the understanding that the eczema, the autoimmune disorder that I had in my body was a reflection of something that was much deeper. I needed to get to the root cause of it.
Dr. Pompa:
You’re right.
Naomi Whittel:
As a layman, I was working with incredible integrative doctors. It was ultimately a Chinese medical doctor by doing acupuncture and giving me these little Chinese herbs, he was able to take the blood stagnation out of my body. Now, you would very rarely see eczema. You’ll see it sometimes on my hands, a little bit on my face, but most of the time, you’re not seeing the bleeding and the pussing.
Dr. Pompa:
I have to ask this question because you lived such a clean life, what was it?
Naomi Whittel:
I had the opportunity to work with some incredible integrative medical doctors like Felice Gersh for example. She told me that my autoimmune health was impacted while I was inside of my mother. Then I was born by caesarian. Then I had a full blood transfusion when I was born.
Dr. Pompa:
Oh, yeah.
Naomi Whittel:
All of these things knocked my immune health. Now, I have mast cell activation, a lot of different things. This Chinese medical doctor really started me on the path of healing. Through that process, as I was peeling back the onion, I got a lot better.
If I were to fast forward to my late 20‘s, I’m married, getting ready to have a child. I go back to my integrative doctor and he does all sorts of tests: urine tests, hair analysis, everything under the sun. I come back to him and he says to me, “You have no business getting pregnant because you have such heavy metal toxicity in your body. He traced it back to those little Chinese herbs that healed me.
Dr. Pompa:
Yes, interesting.
Naomi Whittel:
That was that second defining moment where I realized, wow, I have been poisoned by what healed me. It’s really the soil when you think about these herbs that are growing in China.
Dr. Pompa:
Yes, oh yeah, the lead, the mercury, all of it.
Naomi Whittel:
It’s all there. It took me time to detoxify. I made a commitment to myself then that I wasn’t going to put something into my mouth unless I knew where it came from, how pure it was. I just didn’t have that luxury. When I built my company many years in the feature, I wanted to bring Resveratrol into the market. I went to the French vineyards in the South of France that are organic. I went through the whole supply chain. I made my own extracts, so when I could bring it to my customers, it had that same purity, that potency, and that identity. The same with collagen. Throughout Asia, there’s so much collagen. It’s found in everything.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s what got you the idea because it wasn’t here.
Naomi Whittel:
No.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, so you brought it over when you were in your travels.
Naomi Whittel:
Yes; for example, in Asia, in Japan, throughout the Asian countries, women primarily are ingesting like 30 times more collagen than we do here. They’re drinking it. They’re having all their bone broths every day; all of this. I didn’t want to bring that product into the US market. I got my inspiration there and then I would manufacture it from Germany.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, cleaner product. It’s funny it started in utero; you’re right. I’ve talked about that on some of these shows. The number one cause of lead toxicity is mom because during pregnancy it’s normal to lose bone, but out comes the lead because the lead is stored in bone. There’s a study called the Jurass study, the number of silver fillings in mom’s mouth is proportional to how much they find in the baby’s brain.
Naomi Whittel:
Wow.
Dr. Pompa:
You’re right. Then after that, it’s what other stressors do you have? You end up despite the clean life, end up with an autoimmune disease. Which by the way, those toxins trigger the gene, and so the gene of susceptibility is now turned on. What you’ve been successful at, not only getting upstream to the cause but turning off the gene as well. Yeah, and that’s a lot of your travels. This book is Glow 15, a lot of this is what you’ve learned over these travels. I have to say this. You just stepped down, you were CEO of Twinlab. They’re one of the top supplement companies for a long time, right? One of the biggest?
Naomi Whittel:
Right, yes, I sold my company to them three years ago. Six months after I had sold, they asked if I would come and be their CEO. That was an honor, a 50-year-old company that had their own manufacturing process.
Dr. Pompa:
Huge, yeah.
Naomi Whittel:
Huge, legacy breaking.
Dr. Pompa:
That shows you who she is that they brought her in.
Naomi Whittel:
It was an incredible experience. Then my book became a New York Times bestseller, which I wasn’t necessarily expecting. It was very exciting. This is a plan that really incorporates—
Dr. Pompa:
Tell us, yeah.
Naomi Whittel:
I got to work with the most amazing experts. I was in Calabria, Italy about four and a half, five years ago, sourcing the citrus bergamot fruit. It’s this powerful flavonoid filled fruit. It’s been shown in clinical studies to actually help reduce the LDL and increase the HDL for cholesterol. I was over there doing that. One of the lead researchers said to me, her name is Dr. Elizabeth Janda, “You know, I make citrus bergamot tea and I drink it every day to activate my autophagy.” I’m like, “Your autopha what?”
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, some of these people know what autophagy is; maybe some of them don’t so re-explain it.
Naomi Whittel:
I had to learn from Dr. Janda, it’s a cellular self-cleansing detoxification process.
Dr. Pompa:
Happens in fasting and some natural things.
Naomi Whittel:
Correct.
Dr. Pompa:
There’s some products that can stimulate it, too.
Naomi Whittel:
Yes, there are products, there are foods, there’s types of exercise, there’s getting in touch with your natural circadian rhythm so you’re sleeping in a different way. There’s so many ways to activate it. It’s naturally what God gave us. It’s inside of all of our bodies, but as we get older—what I’ve learned from these top researchers like Dr. William Dunn at the University of Florida is as we get older, it literally starts to deactivate more and more.
Dr. Pompa:
Exactly.
Naomi Whittel:
Then the pollutants, the toxins, and the environmental effects again suppress it.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s interesting you said that because it’s true. The other back side of this autophagy is the body will eventually kill a bad cell. It will eat the debris in the cell; then it will take out a bad cell. Here’s the best part. It produces a stem cell to replace it. One of the things that happens when we get older is we start losing—our stem cell bucket so to speak starts emptying.
Stem cells, folks, that’s what keeps us young. That’s why kids heal so fast; they have a lot of viable stem cells. As we age, we lose viable stem cells. That’s a big deal. If we can do things that help the autophagy, we’re also helping our stem cells, the viability of our stem cells, and therefore our healing. That’s a big deal. You actually spent time with some of the top four researchers on autophagy. That’s really what stimulated this, am I right?
Naomi Whittel:
Yes, oh yes. They wrote the chapters with me. Here I had an experience of being in Calabria, learning about autophagy activation, and having this ah-ha moment like, oh my gosh, all I really need to do for my own health is learn how to activate it so my body can do what it naturally wants to do, which is remove the debris, help the detox process, help to get rid of the cells that don’t need to be there, build more stem cells. I came back to the US and went on a global search for the world’s top experts in autophagy. I have Dr. Richard Wang who is the autophagy dermatologist. Eighty million of us here in this country go to our dermatologist every single year for skin issues.
Dr. Pompa:
Okay, now you’ve got their attention.
Naomi Whittel:
Eighty million; more than to their internist, more than to anything else. If we think about this being our largest organ, we’re absorbing 60% of what we put on it. On average, we’re putting 500—I learned 513 chemicals on our skin every day. This is the fastest way to—
Dr. Pompa:
By the way, out of that 513, 200 some actually are known cancer causers. Not to mention the ones that are—mimic hormones and drive hormonal problems. That’s what’s in that 513.
Naomi Whittel:
Yeah and it’s so frightening. As a woman who wants to really support my own health, that of my mother’s, my daughter’s, and all the other women, and men of course as well, but for women, skin is such a reflection of our confidence.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s a reflection of your health; it really is. When I look at somebody, you go, healthy, not healthy.
Naomi Whittel:
Boom, like that. We’re affected by so many of these what I call accelerated agers, which are these pollutants. Autophagy really helps to fight back on the accelerated agers. It allows our body to do so many things that it couldn’t do because it was clogged up. This book is really just—
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, so talk about that. I’ve spoken to them about fasting as a natural way. Daily fasting, block fasting where we do extended fasting all stimulate autophagy and stem cell production. You have some other strategies. Talk about them.
Naomi Whittel:
Yes, I’ve got a handful. I’ve got about 11 different specific strategies; one of them is something that I know you love very much. Which what I do is I do protein cycling and intermittent fasting. I’ve been intermittent fasting for—I’ve been fasting for 25 years for my autoimmune health, but intermittent fasting for probably the past 6 or so years. That was really because being so connected with the University of Florida, the research started to come out about five or six years ago. I always do what the researchers are doing and what they’re testing on themselves. Intermittent fasting and protein cycling, when you intermittent fast you also reduce your caloric intake of protein to about 5% of your daily intake. That activates autophagy.
Dr. Pompa:
Yep, absolutely. My diet variation principle, we’ll do high protein days, low protein days, low-calorie days because it does, the body goes into autophagy. Actually, we recently interviewed Dr. Joseph who we were just talking to, just spoke from stage. He talks about that, just dropping the calories, dropping the protein. That’s what the fasting mimicking diet does. You can do just days like that.
Naomi Whittel:
It’s so powerful. It feels to me almost like a metabolic confusion which I really like to do. I like to always keep my body guessing.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s it because it forces adaptation. I teach them it forces what I call hormone optimization where you keep the body guessing. It’s like exercise. If you’re doing the same exercise all the time, in the beginning you get results, and then nothing, and then down. Then you go to the new gym, and you’re like, oh my gosh, or the new piece of exercise equipment you bought at 12 o’clock at night, which you should never do. You start doing that one, and go, oh my gosh, this is the best. It wasn’t the exercise piece of equipment; it was the change. It was the different. We agree on that.
Naomi Whittel:
Yes, that’s a great one and I totally love. Another one is fat first and carbs last. If you’re going to have your carbohydrates, you have them at night, and obviously, you have the complex carbs. Now, for me, I love to be—I like to do a standard keto diet for my inflammatory process. Because of you, I—literally this Sunday, I’m starting a five-day water fast. I do them consecutively if it’s once a month, once every six weeks because you told me how important that was to really affect my autoimmune health.
Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely.
Naomi Whittel:
I’ll start my five-day water fast this Sunday. Fat first, good fat, carbs last, what I’ve also learned from that principle, you talk about hormones. Most women I’ve found at all different points in the life are at an imbalance of hormones.
Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely.
Naomi Whittel:
I didn’t realize that signs of an imbalance of hormones are things like overwhelm, joint pain.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s right.
Naomi Whittel:
We know that a restless sleep, not getting the benefit we need from sleep, always feeling a little bit like I’m not quite on my game. I can tell you personally, being in my mid-40’s now, there’s a difference in the way that I feel every day than the way I felt in my 30’s. The energy that I need that I want that I get from the good fats and the carbs last, really—
Dr. Pompa:
I love that.
Naomi Whittel:
—helps to balance my hormones.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s great; awesome tip. Obviously, you brought up skin health. Okay, the wrinkles, they want to know more. You discuss it.
Naomi Whittel:
I think there are beauty proteins: there’s collagen, there’s elastin, and then there is, of course, the plumpness that comes from ceramides. Ceramides are found in lots of foods. They are autophagy activators. A lot of different polyphenols helps with the skin as well. I have things called power phenols: green tea, for example, Resveratrol, the citrus bergamot fruit. These are all power phenols. The reason I call them that is not only are they providing the antioxidant protection, but they’re also helping to activate autophagy which literally repairs. Protect and repair in one makes it a power phenol to me.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s awesome. Yeah, the autophagy, again, getting rid of the bad cells is key, especially because what people have to understand is when cells live too long, they create mischief. They create inflammation. Inflammation we say is the cause everything, but even bad skin. People don’t think of wrinkles as being inflammation. You see smokers, you see their skin. It’s inflammation ultimately that it damages the collagen and the elastin, but the inflammation’s first. The toxins drive it, all of it. The autophagy is a part of that, which that’s getting to the cause.
Naomi Whittel:
It really is.
Dr. Pompa:
New York Time bestseller for a reason.
Naomi Whittel:
Thank you very much.
Dr. Pompa:
Obviously, they can buy it on Amazon I’m sure?
Naomi Whittel:
Thank you, absolutely.
Dr. Pompa:
Alright, let’s get to something that actually I was a big part of, The Skinny on Fat. This is huge, The Skinny on Fat.
Naomi Whittel:
It was incredible.
Dr. Pompa:
No, it is incredible. You interviewed the world's experts on this.
Naomi Whittel:
Eighty plus.
Dr. Pompa:
Eighty plus; I was part of it, blessed to be a part of it. Thank you for that, yeah.
Naomi Whittel:
Thank you.
Dr. Pompa:
You just recently were on Dr. Oz. Obviously, he is excited about it. I’m excited about it.
Naomi Whittel:
Everybody’s excited about what’s in there. You said fasting is the number one Google search term right now in health. Keto is so huge.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s up there, too, yep.
Naomi Whittel:
This was all about really trying to get to the core of what’s got wrong—what has gone wrong in our country.
Dr. Pompa:
Your mother inspired you here. Tell them that, yeah.
Naomi Whittel:
Yeah, she did. I’m amazed that you remembered that. When we moved to this country—I moved to this country when I was about 11.5, 12 years old. My mother like so many Americans—when we moved, she was a size eight. I had never thought about her weight, or her health, or anything like that. Over a short period of time, she started to become heavier and heavier. She ultimately got metabolic syndrome.
Dr. Pompa:
She probably believed fat makes you fat.
Naomi Whittel:
I think she probably did. It’s different; it’s a little bit different because growing up in Europe, we eat—
Dr. Pompa:
Oh, yeah, different philosophy. Yeah, different philosophy.
Naomi Whittel:
We eat a lot of fat. Yes, but she definitely was susceptible to the toxins and the pollutants in the food. She has suffered with being overweight and the impact on her health. I’m in this industry my entire career. My brother is as well. We have this background. Her father is a very famous physicist. She has so many tools at her fingertips, and yet, we couldn’t as a family figure it out, which is why I wanted to go and really discover from the world’s top experts what’s going on, and what do we do.
Dr. Pompa:
We have to give kudos to a good friend, a mutual good friend of ours, Jeff Hays who produced. Honestly, I think it’s his best work. I know that you’re relaunching it. I’m just looking at the experts; I know so many of them. Montel Williams was even a part of this. It’s amazing. Before we even sat down, I was like, this is amazing. You’ve got to get it out to more people. You’re like, oh my gosh, we are. We’ll make it available. We’ll put a link in, tell the team here to put a link in to how to access it. We absolutely want to do more to promote it because I’m telling you, Zach Bush, Jason Fung. He’s here speaking.
Naomi Whittel:
He’s here, I know.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s like, oh my gosh. He’s here speaking, Ben Greenfield.
Naomi Whittel:
Amy’s here, yeah Dr. Amy’s here.
Dr. Pompa:
Dr. Amy is here. Dr. Joseph’s here. That’s incredible.
Naomi Whittel:
I know; that’s hysterical.
Dr. Pompa:
We have quite the seminar here actually looking at that.
Naomi Whittel:
Yes, I know; we do. We have an incredible team.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that is unbelievable. There I am actually.
Naomi Whittel:
Yes, you are.
Dr. Pompa:
There’s Joe Mercola. They’re all good friends of ours. The information honestly, it’s just—everybody, my doctors that watched it, and got it, they’re like, that is amazing. I’m like, I know. It’s got to get out to more people. Then hearing that you’re bringing it out and you’ve got some big wigs helping you get it out. Life changer right here, Skinny on Fat. Yeah, it’s great work.
Naomi Whittel:
Thank you so much.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, just thinking about that, let me ask you the question: how did it change you?
Naomi Whittel:
It changed everybody on the film crew.
Dr. Pompa:
Oh, that’s true.
Naomi Whittel:
Isn’t that so cool?
Dr. Pompa:
They watched some of my pieces. I’m not bragging or boasting, but I got the emails.
Naomi Whittel:
I know, well, including my own CFO, he watched your piece. Jeff Hays did, as the filmmaker, did a little piece on how everybody on the film crew was affected. The cameraman lost 40 pounds. The guy that does this [claps hands] lost tons of weight.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I remember him asking me a bunch of questions after.
Naomi Whittel:
I know and that’s what they did. It was so much fun.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s incredible.
Naomi Whittel:
For me personally, what I was able to really distill down that changed my life is the power of the ketone. This is an energy source that again, like autophagy, this is an energy source that we naturally produce.
Dr. Pompa:
Which when you break down fat and get fat adapted in a state of ketosis or fasting, you produce these ketones.
Naomi Whittel:
Then how do we not just produce more, but literally utilize the ones that we have better?
Dr. Pompa:
That’s true.
Naomi Whittel:
That’s what I became obsessed with.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, and by the way, it’s funny you said that because I was teaching on that. When glucose is too high, you don’t lose—you don’t utilize the ketones. I learned that from Thomas Seyfried. He wrote the book, Cancer is a Metabolic Disease. They watched tumors grow, or shrink, or not shrink. They realized that even when ketones were up, if the glucose wasn’t dropping the body wouldn’t attack the tumor. That goes for even us healthy people; we want to see glucose dropping. I’m teaching on that this afternoon.
Naomi Whittel:
It’s a fascinating topic.
Dr. Pompa:
Yes, it is.
Naomi Whittel:
Actually, Dr. Dominic D’Agostino, who is here—
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, who we’ve had here at the seminars.
Naomi Whittel:
Thomas Seyfried is also in here.
Dr. Pompa:
He’s here.
Naomi Whittel:
Dominic, he really has some new research coming out around what comes first. If you can raise your ketone levels, your glucose automatically drops. He’s got some really interesting—
Dr. Pompa:
By the way, I would say that’s healthy people. What we have found in our doctor group is neurotoxic people, that doesn’t happen. Matter of fact, we get the emails. It’s like, why isn’t my glucose going down? I have a fasting group on Facebook. They can read the posts. Neurotoxic people, they’re metabolically so challenged because toxins attack the mitochondria that they don’t get the normal response.
You’re right in the sense that should happen, but yet—when people fast, we’ll get emails saying that, my glucose is in the 30’s. Am I okay? The next question is, well, how do you feel? Fine. What are your ketones? Six. Of course, that’s why you’re fine. Because what happens is the glucose goes down, the ketones go up. It’s making up the energy difference. By the way, that’s when that max autophagy happens that we were talking about.
Naomi Whittel:
Totally,
Dr. Pompa:
The body’s just feeding off those bad cells; it’s that smart. Great stuff.
Naomi Whittel:
I think of autophagy almost as in each and every one of your cells, you have this doctor that is autophagy.
Dr. Pompa:
I love that.
Naomi Whittel:
You are autophagy for your patients so that the doctor is smart: knows, okay, the cell needs to die; okay, this cell can be recycled; these parts can be recycled. It’s like the intellectual capital of the cell is in the autophagy. It makes all the decisions.
Dr. Pompa:
We’ll take it another step further; it’s a little God intelligent doctor because here’s what else it does. It has to die; we have to do this; we can’t fix it. Okay, unfixable. Let’s kill this. Okay, make a new one.
Naomi Whittel:
That’s right.
Dr. Pompa:
It stimulates a stem cell and you make a new cell that’s healthy. Honestly, that’s why all this stuff works.
Naomi Whittel:
The Nobel Prize in Medicine in 2016—so just three weeks before I meet with the publishers, the Nobel Prize in Medicine came out for autophagy.
Dr. Pompa:
Yep, the Japanese dude.
Naomi Whittel:
Yoshinori Ohsumi.
Dr. Pompa:
There we go. She obviously has spent more time in Japan than I did because she just nailed that.
Naomi Whittel:
I’m hoping to go over there in the next month or two to really sit down with him and talk with him now that the craziness has hopefully settled down a little bit.
Dr. Pompa:
You’re a superhero, Naomi. No wonder Dr. Oz had you own his show; that’s why I had her on my show. No, you are; you’re amazing.
Naomi Whittel:
Thank you so much.
Dr. Pompa:
Thank you for being here.
Naomi Whittel:
It’s an honor.
Dr. Pompa:
I know they’re going to love this.
Naomi Whitell:
It’s an honor and a pleasure. Thank you for having me.
Dr. Pompa:
Yep, absolutely. Yep, appreciate you.
Ashley:
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