29: Multiple Chemical Sensitivity

Transcript of Episode 29: Multiple Chemical Sensitivity

With Dr. Daniel Pompa and Warren Phillips.

Warren: We're here. Good morning. Cellular Healing TV, episode, believe it or not, 29. This is our 29th week, with replays in there, too when emergencies come up. Sometimes we don't have an opportunity to go live with you guys. Really exiting topic today. Dr. Pompa and I have been discussing this, and we realize we haven't laid out one of our best topics, our most wanted topic, to the public, which is called multiple chemical sensitivity, MCS, chemical sensitivity. It's one of those things that, again, it's called incurable. People don't know they even have it. It's something that Dr. Pompa and I suffered with personally to the point—at one point in my life, I couldn't even leave my home for fear of just feeling that feeling, and getting that sick from chemical exposures that my body overreacted to. Dr. Pompa, you have tons of multiple chemical sensitivity patients. A lot of your patients have that as a complication, whether they're super toxic, amalgam sick from mercury biotoxins, even some of your thyroid and diabetes patients also have that complication of multiple chemical sensitivity. Let's go over some of the signs today with the viewers, to let them know whether they have it and the reality of it, and then some of the tricks and tips that have helped you help your patients, and what we have used, and some of the funny things we have done along the way, as we suffered and overcame multiple chemical sensitivity. Welcome to the show today.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, thank you. I would say most of my clients have it, and most of them don't even know it. Matter of fact, I would say that about—a lot of the population, most of the population has some degree of chemical sensitivity. On a scale from one to ten, ten being the worst, most people are a one, a two, or even a three and have no clue. Of course, we're seeing the people who are seven, eight, nines, and tens, where their life is literally getting hammered by something that they really don't understand. Meaning that I remember the day that I was driving behind a truck—and I was sick already, right? I already had symptoms of fatigue and insomnia, anxiety—all the things that I was going, “What's wrong?” Headaches, digestive issues I was full-blown sick. However, I didn't know I was chemically sensitive for years. I remember driving behind a truck feeling pretty good that day, right? It was probably one of my good days. All of a sudden, I breathe some diesel. At that moment, I became extremely irritable, brain fogged where I couldn't even remember where I was going or how to get there, and my body inflamed, and I had a bunch of symptoms. At that moment, I realized, “I'm chemically sensitive.” Then it started happening. I walk into a bathroom with air fresheners and realize I walked in there normal, I'm walking out not feeling normal 20 minutes later, completely jacked, as we say. As a matter of fact, we've even started our own little lingo around it. What is the call out? When someone has fabric softener on, right, you smell those people? We smell them a mile away. Fabric softener is loaded with about six neurotoxins, on average. I don't know the percentage of Americans that use fabric softener in their dryers, dryer sheets, etc., but that stuff is toxic, and boy, it does a number on us immediately. I remember patients coming in to my office, and I would have to tell them, “You can't wear this stuff.” I'd go into a real stupor. Warren, the sad reality—

Warren: One of the common things is, “Oh, that was—this clothes is six months old. What do you mean? It shouldn't smell like anything.” Those fragrance warehouses, those chemicals—literally, you could wash it in Tide, which has multiple chemicals in it as well, then you add six or seven more with a fabric softener, and then you throw in some Downy dryer sheets, that stuff, just like perfume, will last for years. You pull it out, and just like they show you on TV, “Oh, it smells as fresh as when I first washed it.” You know why? It's a chemical that tricks your brain that sticks around forever and a day, a neurotoxin that tricks your brain into thinking that it smells right, stimulating a similar response that a natural thing would, but yet it's a complete neurotoxin. You can re-wash it in just natural stuff, and it'll take two or three times just to get it out.

Dr. Pompa: Absolutely. Those chemicals are made to adhere to the fabric, and they're made to adhere to you. Here's the problem, too, is it's a double-whammy. You're breathing it right into your lungs, into your bloodstream, and these things adhere into your body, bioaccumulate. They do not come out. This is not your average chemical, folks, and you're absorbing it through your skin You're wearing your clothing from your—you said it best, right? It's from the Tide all the way through to the Bounce, to the fabric softeners to the dryer sheets, and you're wearing and smelling chemicals all day long. Oh no, but then you go to bed at night, and guess what? Your pillowcase, your sheets, are full of the same toxins. Right into your skin, right into your lungs. I'll tell you, it's probably one of the most toxic things that most Americans have no clue about. Spend the extra money, folks, on the 100% natural detergents, and please, do not use fabric softeners of any type. Warren, this would probably be a great intro to show your dryer balls at this point. I'm just saying, you'll love those things, and my pets love them.

Warren: Here's our dryer balls.

Dr. Pompa: That's what we use in our dryer! These dryer balls. They actually do work, and the pets do, in fact, love them. Anyways, yeah Warren, tell a little bit about your story. I actually thought I was doing you a favor at one point, and I saved you from your moldy basement to put you in my basement, which just so happened to have some new carpet in it. I didn't do you any favors, did I?

Warren: This is before we knew that we were—Dan and I traveled all over the country. Dan before even I showed up on the scene sick, as a cousin to his wife, very sick. We were big into mold and I cleaned up hazardous waste, and so I was reading articles on mercury poisoning and the symptoms of it. That was me, so I was completely sold out on this stuff. Dr. Pompa starts taking care of me, giving me supplements. At the time, he was a chiropractor, he was practicing chiropractic. You're not practicing chiropractic now, but then you were. You started adjusting me, resetting my autonomic nervous system and I started feeling better, so I'm full-blown. We got this thing, and multiple chemical sensitivity wasn't on the radar. Before I go there, I'll place a little seed. When you sleep with a fabric softener and Tide, or—I'm not going to blame Tide, but multiple fragrant-type laundry detergents, so there's many of them even Arm & Hammer, all along the line. I'm not just beating down Tide, I'm beating all of them down. That's why they have the fragrance-free options, right? You're sleeping in that and wonder why you're not sleeping, right? It's like, well maybe—you have had patients, Dan, that you said they stop the perfume and they start sleeping through the night. If you don't sleep through the night, maybe it's your Bounce Bounce pillow—Bounce Bounce baby pillow, we call it, that's keeping you up at night. I'll throw in a trick for you. If you do get into a hotel and you don't bring your own pillowcase, you can also take a t-shirt of yours, take their pillowcase off and put your t-shirt over. There's something—number one, if you're sitting there and getting irritated while you're sleeping in a hotel and not know why, and you smell that fragrance, your body's saying, “Hey, get this out of my body, because it's irritating my system and it's making me irritable.” Take the sheet off, put another one on. Moving into my story, I move into Dr. Pompa's basement. He's like, “Warren, I'm sick of seeing you sick. If you don't remove the source, R1, you are going to remain sick. I'm like, “Alright.” He spoke to his wife, and she graciously said—she already had five kids at the time—I'll take on a sixth kid—me, a sick one that was irritable, wasn't in the best shape, we'll just leave it at that. He moves me into this beautiful basement—essentially, apartment. It was a great place to stay. We weren't tuned into the chemical sensitivities things, and it had two-year-old carpet in it. We knew that VOCs and that stuff, you didn't want to put something in, but two years, surely, it would be okay. I started the first night, the second night, the third night, just to fast forward, walking upstairs going, “Did you sleep last night?”, “Nope, didn't sleep.” There would be times where Dan said, “I'm not sleeping here, either.” Long story short, start fast forwarding, we start realizing that the home we were in, because it was about, I think, three years old at the time—I don't know, Dr. Pompa, about three?—started making all of us sick. Especially me, because I was in a locked basement room with a closed door with a fan running, because any noise would wake me up, with a locked door closed up, off-gassing chemicals into my body all night long. Then, I'll pass the story on to you, Dr. Pompa.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. It was true. On the back side of, Warren, actually certain things so much better, moving into a chemical newer home started creating new symptoms and symptoms that were oftentimes worse. I've watched that happen so many times, Warren, with so many of my clients, that they're better, and then they move into a new home, only to revisit similar symptoms and worse symptoms. Sleeplessness, anxiety, brain fog, fatigue, all because of chemicals.

Warren: That's a mistake for your mold patients. They go, “I'll just get a new home.” It was the same thing that I did. After that, I had bought an older home, a little bit older apartment. It was four or five years old, but yet, I didn't realize the insulation that was in it wasn't formaldehyde-free, so I had to do everything that you needed to do with air exchangers. We have videos out there on that, air exchangers with water filtration, positive pressurizing our home to keep those chemicals out, which is really tough to do. That's what you did. You ripped out all the carpet and put all hardwood in, put in air exchangers, pressurized the home, full-house dehumidification, so you didn't create another problem. These mold-sick patients like I was, obviously complicated from my heavy metal exposure and the over-reactive immune response I was having to mold and mold VOCs—VOCs mean volatile organic compounds, like gasoline. When you smell it that's off-gasses that evaporates to a volatile organic compound. Gasoline's organic—not the good organic, but it's organic meaning it's from oil. We cleaned up our homes, positively pressured and brought the fresh air in, pushed the bad air out, and then we were able to sleep most nights, through the night, in your house, fast forward.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, we became, obviously, really good at making homes safe. We learned a lot, and we'll share some that here with you here before we get off today, but how so many people end up there. We described the theory in the past, where you start taking a lot of toxins from the time we're in mommy's belly, in utero, and we're taking in her toxins—the lead from her bones, the mercury from her amalgams. Then we're born, and we start exposing our children to all of these chemicals that we're talking about. Let's give them a nice, fluffy blanket, right from the dryer, dryer sheets. Everything we're saying. Not to mention everyone's perfumes. Our outside air today is cleaner. However, the big thing that nobody's talking about is indoor air. It is, on average, five to seven times more toxic than the worst day in LA. We're talking about your homes, folks. Your home is the most toxic place on the planet because of all the chemicals, the neurotoxins that are in carpets, all of the supplies. Furniture, all the fire-retardants, the bromine, we can just keep listing chemicals, chemicals that really weren't around when our parents were living. Things were very simple. They were exposed to very few of the thousands of chemicals that we are exposed to today. I don't remember the number, but how many thousands are introduced every year into, basically, our lives, into the marketplace, that haven't been tested for cancer neurotoxicity. Look, I quoted—ladies, you use, on average, 518 chemicals just to start your day. 219, on average, of that 500 some that you're using, are known cancer causers, not to mention most of that 500 some are obesogens, which means they're chemicals that drive obesity, trigger genes, turn on genes for weight loss. Look, my bottom line is this. We are exposed to so many chemicals that we're putting into our bodies from food, makeup, personal care products, our clothes, our environments, our homes. We build homes now, that trap—they're so efficient they trap in these chemicals, so literally, our indoor air is filling with the chemicals that we're putting on ourselves, the chemicals that are from all the new products that we bring into our home, computers—Warren, we have to off-gas our computers. You ever smell that new computer smell? That's bromine. Yeah, that screws up your thyroid, folks. The flame-retardants that they use for computers, it takes a year to off-gas. You're breathing that in every day.

Warren: That volatile smell that you think is sweet and that new car smell is literally killing you. You wonder why every time I'm on my computer, I get a headache. That's why. It's the bromine causing—what is the cellular brain inflammation, what is that called, Dr. Pompa? The scientific term? Brain inflammation?

Dr. Pompa: Encephalitis?

Warren: Something like that.

Dr. Pompa: You're right.

Warren: Yeah, yeah. Toxic encephalitis.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, toxic encephalitis.

-Cross talk- Warren: I can draw some of this for our viewers. It should be a little pop-up. There it is, perfect. Now I can draw—when you're talking about it, I can draw little figures and just show people.

Dr. Pompa: The bottom line is, let me finish making my point, is that we're exposed to neurotoxins. These are toxins that attack our brain and our nerve system, unlike any time in the history of man. It's not just the outside toxicity gets so much attention from the whole environmental green movement. What about what we're putting into our bodies? Really, that's the bigger issue. It's driving chemical sensitivity in so many people. The sad part is, Warren, is so many people don't feel well. The don't realize they're chemically sensitive. Took us a while to figure it out. Here we are now with people who are chemically sensitive, have sleep issues, have anxiety, have depression, have just these brain fog energy issues and weight loss resistance. They start gaining weight, triggering bad genes, and they have no idea that it's because their body is driving inflammation because of the smell of certain chemicals. Really, and I don't want to focus on this on this show, but really what's happening is you get hit by a major toxin—mercury, mold, any of these big guys, it shuts down your detox pathways. You start bioaccumulating a lot of chemicals. Now your brain, there's a place in your brain called the amygdala, which really is how your brain starts to create emotion to memory. What happens is your brain starts smelling these chemicals, and it creates the same inflammation process with just a sniff of one little chemical, because it's trying to survive. It wants to keep you away. With that sniff, one little sniff of one little chemical, it remembers the reaction, triggers inflammation, a chemical explosion in your body. Now with one sniff of a minor chemical, all of a sudden, you have inflammation and a bunch of bizarre symptoms. Why? A neuro pattern was set up in your brain. Part of the fixing has to be to change those patterns. There's even an inflammation process , and I'm not going to explain the biochemistry, but it's an inflammation pattern where just one sniff of a minor chemical triggers this inflammation pattern. Once that goes, it doesn't down regulate. We have to redirect that pattern, as well as the pattern that the brain is creating when it smells these chemicals to drive inflammation. Warren, we're both well. We're both well. I can sniff gasoline, I can drive, I don't even—as a matter of fact, I'm probably less chemically sensitive than most people that don't even know they're chemically sensitive. However, put me in a room with formaldehyde, new carpet, and I will become brain fogged within an hour or so. The difference is, is that I clear out. I leave there and in an hour I'm normal again. In the old days, it would be days before we were normal again. There is a fix to this. You have to down regulate inflammation. You have to empty the bucket. You have to clean the body out, which typically takes seven years, really, to re-pattern the body in these things. You have to do the right things long enough and the body does re-pattern, the body does go, “Okay, we're not in trouble here, I'm not going to create this massive inflammation.” Those of you who are trying to get well chemically sensitive, it takes time doing the right things. These are the things we've been talking about, the 5R's. If you're saying, “What things are you talking about, Dr. Pompa?” Go back and watch the shows. The 5R's really is how we both got out of chemical sensitivity Warren, right? The 5R's is the answer, but you have to do this long enough. Chemical sensitivity was our last thing to fix. We had our energy back, we had our lives back, we were sleeping through the night. However, the chemical reactions that we would get, that was the last thing to go, the last thing to heal. Have hope in that.

Warren: Yeah, and Dr. Pompa made a great point. By the way, there's a really good concise article that we just released, we're releasing. It still should be the main article on the website, if you go to DrPompa.com, we just did a really great summary of the 5R's. Our audience was—we're actually growing rapidly, Dr. Pompa. I looked at our Google Analytics. We're actually crashing our server, so I'm switching servers now. This information is getting out there. We have a lot of unique visitors coming to our site now, so I just upgraded that. For you that were having trouble on our website, even those with a dedicated server—little tech talk here, we have upgraded to the huge server, so send your friends. We can handle the influx that we're seeing right now. Go there, and there's a great summary on the 5R's. Dr. Pompa, you made a great point, is as you get well, just like if you smell something that was a negative reaction—say in college, Goldschlager, you got really sick once on that. You smell Goldshlager and you automatically get sick. You created a really negative pattern in your neurology. What happens is the same thing with a chemical smell like gasoline, and you start to realize, not only did you—because now we're telling you, it's like, yeah, I do get a headache. You start living in fear over the gasoline, and your body's starting to recognize the same thing. Gasoline, bad. When you get well and it really isn't affecting you as much, your body can handle the toxic load, if you will, because you've cleaned out. Now you've got to start realizing, “Hey, I don't have to react that way or overreact that way,” and that's—there's a mental game to this chemical sensitivity that has to play out, because there's a realistic fear that you have to avoid these chemicals so that you don't get sick. You have to get stuff out of your home, you have to do all that stuff, but then, as you get well and you get little exposures to something here or perfume there, you have to realize and fight through your old pattern that Goldschlager—even though it is bad, it's a chemical and it's a toxin, it's alcohol, it's poison, but if you have one shot, it's not going to make you puke again, for instance. I'm trying to develop some sort of analogy here. I'm not a teacher. I'm hankering back to college days. It's the best I could do, Dr. Pompa. That's the trick.

Dr. Pompa: There's a two-part thing. You have to empty the bucket, right? When I say the bucket, I'm talking about the bioaccumulation of metals—not metals, toxins throughout your life, right? It finally one day overflows. Genetically, some of us have bigger buckets than others, right? I always like to say we have 50 to 70 trillion cells in our body. Really, that's 50 to 70 trillion little buckets that end up getting toxic. Now genes start getting turned on, etcetera. We have to empty those buckets. That's a part of it, right? You'll never get over your chemical sensitivity until the buckets are empty. That's R1. Remove the sources from the cellular level, true cellular detox. Number two part of the treatment is you're right, Warren, you create these anchors, these patterns neurologically that—your body wants to do good by you, so it smells a chemical that's hurt you when your bucket was full and it creates the same pattern. All of a sudden, it tells your hypothalamus to release certain chemicals like adrenaline like cortisol, like any inflammatory type of chemical reaction. Your body then is there to save your life, but it releases it on just the minor little smell. That pattern is still going even though your bucket is more empty, so we have to break those patterns and change the memory and change the way your body patterns. When people say, “Oh, that's just psychological,” they're right, it is psychological, but it's driven by a real physiological problem, and it's physiological. Just no different than if a lion walked in the room where you are, Warren, you would have physiology that would go crazy. Let's say, hypothetically, it was the most friendly lion in the world, tame and trained, your brain doesn't know that. As soon as that lion walks in, your body releases adrenaline and all kinds of stuff and it drives inflammation that will occur after the lion's gone. That's because that's been patterned into your nervous system that lions kill. That's the same with the chemical. Yes, psychological, yes, physiological, yes, real reaction, real inflammation, driven by the fact that you've been hurt so badly by these toxins. It's like being bit by a dog. You've been bit by a dog, man, you're going to be fearful of dogs.

Warren: Every time you hear a dog start barking, you run away. Here's the thing. Dan, we did that. We found out that chemicals we didn't understand the psychology in this journey—we didn't know we were chemically sensitive, we knew we were, we knew the dog that bit us. Everyone's around us saying it's all in your head, but we're like, “No. I walk in, I'm normal. I walk out, I'm sick. You're not. We're not.” When we started to travel and do things together, we created a little community, Dr. Pompa and more, our little vocabulary, just like chuchees or if you're from a different culture, we created our own culture, a chemical sensitivity culture. There is one out there. We even have websites, MCS awareness. There's some good information there. I think that site was down for a while. More tech talk—got attacked by viruses and things. We've developed our own little culture, our own little world, and we start running with masks through airports. We had our shirts up over our face all the time. We would hold our breath. We would trick the bus driver to not pay attention—that's a good technique there, Dr. Pompa. Well done, using the t-shirt over the face. It's another good move, Dr. Pompa. Well done. We do it together. At first it was awkward, but eventually, we just didn't care because it did help. Psychologically, it gave us—we were protecting ourselves. You breathe our own air, it does work. Everyone watching this due to chemical sensitivity is going to pull the Warren's show and go under. I'm going under, is what these used to say. We'd walk in, “I'm going under.” We'd trick bus drivers who had air fresheners at times when we travel teaching doctors across the country, we tell these stories. Dan says, I'll distract him, you grab the air freshener. He would distract them, I'd go by, snap it off his mirror and then go throw it in the garbage can. We've done that. They would have them sitting behind the seats and we'd be sitting there—there's an air freshener, there's one in here. I can smell it. Then Dan or I would be like, “Oh, there it is. It's behind the seat. Hilarious stuff. Behind the seat and we'd break it off and throw it away. Just nuts. Or, we would literally ask the guy. It's like, “You probably think we're nuts, but that stuff bothers us. Could you please put that in the glove box?” He goes “Alright,” then we'd just tip him well afterwards to make up for it. We could go on and on.

Dr. Pompa: How about some of our code words? Bounce Bounce baby was fabric softener, right? We would warn each other, Bounce Bounce baby meant we'd start looking around for the person with fabric softener. How about this one? Fresh batch. That's, someone who had a fresh batch meant that they were doused with cologne or perfume. There was a fresh batch.

Warren: Morning dose.

Dr. Pompa: We literally developed a language so we could adapt to our environments and remain chemical free, which really is part of the solution, though. You do have to take your chemicals out of your life long enough that these treatments work, right? You can't keep inflammation and then in that process, we're emptying the bucket. R1, all of the R's are applied, getting the cellular function working and repatterning that nerve system and changing the DNA. Again, that's where the 5R's do come in. Changes the DNA, changes these reactions, but you do have to stay away from the chemicals long enough, in that process, to do it, which really talks about how we made our homes safe. One of the things, and we'll have Phil Kaplan on at one point. Phil always remembers this. He says, “Dan, you were the first one that said, “Phil, if you don't make your home safe, nothing that I do is going to work.” He put in air exchangers, which bring in fresh air. Warren said we'd have a video about this. He can direct it to where that is on our site. It brings these units—we have them in our homes, you have them in your business that you're sitting there now. They bring in fresh air and they pull out the stale air, because homes are built so airtight there's no fresh air, there's to air exchange. These things exchange fresh air all day long. That's one technique. Warren mentioned about how he positively pressurized a home. That's very important because a lot of homes, inside the walls is probably the most formaldehyde-rich material and that's insulation. What happens is from those walls, if it's negatively pressured or positively pressured from the outside, negative pressure on the inside, those toxins come in constantly. You can never, ever, ever make your air space right. If you positively pressurize the inside of your home, you're keeping that attic air, wall air, out. That's a big part of making your home safe. Of course, better carpets, of course using no chemicals, clean chemicals in your home. The list goes on. Making a home safe is a major part of getting well, and it's one of the first steps.

Warren: Yeah, if I was in a home that was newer, say two years old, and I was chemically sick—let's give them some numbers. Roughly most things off-gas in about four years, I would say, so the four-year-old home—and that's the same for hotels, if you're looking for hotels, to get an idea. You call the hotel, “When were you remodeled?” Four years ago, perfect. Three years ago, really good. Two years ago, not so good. If you're not really sensitive, you'd be okay if you open the windows. Another question you ask at a hotel, “Do your windows open?”, “Hold on, I'm going to call engineering.” It's a pain in the butt to live the way we live. When you want to perform at the high level that we perform at, we can't even take those risks even today. Even though we're not “chemically sensitive, we're not going to go into a new hotel and stay there. we're going to get a hotel that's between two and four and five years old. Then if it's too old, then it's “We haven't remodeled since 1910,” you can guarantee that there's mold spots they keep painting over on the ceiling that are making you sick as well. That four-year range is where you want to be when you buy your home, but the insulation now, Dr. Pompa—the good news is one of our friends Ron Esposito,who we should have on the show again soon, because he's lived this with us, he's getting a new home—which I don't highly recommend. He's not a chemically sensitive fellow, but he's getting an air exchanger, no VOC paint, so he's getting that air exchanger—they call them an HOV or a VRC. He's also going to do all hard wood. The insulation, I had him double-check with the builder. I had an hour long phone conversation the past few days, and the type of insulation they use now in all their homes is formaldehyde-free, because of some of the stuff that came out of the New Orleans—I forget what hurricane that was. Not Sandy, but probably the one before that, when—Thea, or was it Thea?

Dr. Pompa: FEMA?

Warren: FEMA was doing those trailers, and they were loaded with the particleboard with formaldehyde glue, and it was making people really sick and making children really sick, getting formaldehyde poisoning. Part of that was the push, I believe, that got formaldehyde out of most of the insulation. In this building, believe it or not, it's only a four-year-old building, but the type of insulation we used is older. This building that we're in right now has formaldehyde insulation in it, which isn't good. If you can see up here, I have an air exchanger—I don't know if you can see it, but see that little vent above that picture of a trout? Then there's Krista. Say hi, Krista.

Krista: Hello.

Warren: There's Krista, she's our assistant. There's a little vent up there, and that vent blows fresh air into this room. At least this room in our office is 100% safe, because it's like a balloon. This room is like a balloon being filled up with fresh air constantly, pushing, causing a major positive pressure—let me come back. Causing a major positive pressure, so if I pop the balloon, the air's going to go out, right? That's a positive pressure environment, so I live in a balloon full of fresh air coming from the outside, because there's a stream out there, probably getting some good positive ions for the energy folks out there, coming in, ballooning me up so the chemicals in the walls can't come in and get me. Dan knows that this office isn't the best.

Dr. Pompa: The nice thing is, is you can utilize those machines to create that positive pressure. You can bring in more air than you're bringing out. Let's say you do half and half, you bring in, say, this much air, and then on the way out, you're bringing in this much air. There are dampers in them. You're creating the pressure by how much air you're bringing in and letting out, so yeah. That's one of the techniques, and obviously, buying the things that without the chemicals you can make a safe home and it's very important. Again, we have to keep our cellular function, we have to fix our cellular function through the 5R's. You do the right thing long enough, make your environment safe, your body will learn new patterns. The DNA will change. You will become well. The people who just do not become well from chemical sensitivity, you have not gotten rid of your sources. There is still a source in your life, whether it's silver fillings, whether it's just bioaccumulated toxins that you just haven't detoxed correctly. No, folks, a colon cleanse is not going to get it out. An infrared sauna—we love it. We use them ourselves, but in itself, by itself, will not get all the toxins out. You need to do true cellular detox along with these things. That's truly the key. You have to fix the cell to get well. True detox happens at the cellular level. That's how you get well. You do those things long enough, your body will repattern. It won't overreact anymore. Thank God the body heals itself. That's how we got well. I wish we could say, “Hey, we got well in six months.” It just doesn't happen that way. The body takes a while to change those patterns, those neurological patterns that have been up regulated through the trauma of toxicity. Really, that's how these people end up there. The trauma of toxicity, whether it's the moldy home, whether it's the vaccination. We can go down the list. Any infection on the backside of any of these major toxic traumas is chemical sensitivity. By the way, Warren, all of those FEMA people and the people that went in for 9/11, they're all chemically sensitive. Severe MCS. They're all so sick, and most of them don't know what's wrong.

Warren: They call it the syndrome. It's almost like from Desert Storm Syndrome, and then they have the 9/11 Syndrome. What it is is chemical onslaught. They breathed in all the smoke and from all the flame retardants and from everything that was burning off the building, all the chemicals, and their just buckets overflowed.

Dr. Pompa: When I watched, and my kids would tell you, when I watched all the heroic events taking place at 9/11 and these people rushing in, they didn't have masks on. I said to my children, “Oh my god, every one of those people are going to be sick.” There's people that were running out of there just breathing that air. You see them in the videos. Every one of them are sick today. I knew that was going to happen. It would just take some years before the symptoms set in. That's exactly what we're seeing now. They breathe this chemical air, and now they're sick. The same way those people end up sick is really the same way that the average person ends up sick, too much too fast, the bucket fills, and now your nerve system has a pattern of creating its own inflammation. We're trying to bring the answer to the world. This problem is a growing problem. Again, just getting people to understand that this is, in fact, your problem is probably step one.

Warren: You even treated one of those heroes, Dr.Pompa, one of the main heroes I believe, correct?

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, a couple of them.

Warren: How are they doing now?

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, much better, much better. A lot of them have autoimmune conditions, which we've spoken in the past about, triggered by a lot of those stressful events. If you haven't read the autoimmune answer article, please do, because it really brings into light, really, this whole topic. They play together. Yeah, this is a topic, Warren, we could go on and on about, because it affected us so dramatic. It really was. We joke, we laugh about our lingo and what we went through, but our lives were very difficult.

Warren: Very difficult.

Dr. Pompa: Out of it came a greater purpose to educate people about what we learned. I believe in my heart that God allowed us to go through it. He gave us the answers, not to sit on, but he gave us the answers, because there's so many people suffering, unfortunately, at younger and younger ages. We have the answer. We can't boast about our intelligence of finding the answer. Honestly, it was God who brought us the answers, and we both believe that in our heart, no doubt.

Warren: Yeah, 40 minutes has gone by, Dr. Pompa, and it's like we just got started on this topic. There's a long history here. We do laugh about it now. I think that the reason we do, for those of you who are suffering—how can you laugh about it, Dr. Pompa and Warren? It's an adaptation, honestly. It's trying to create a positive anchor. We don't want to go back to those dark days. Even if we get a hint of it now, it really can anchor us back in. We know that part of our neurology's we cant do that. When we're laughing, it's like some people laugh when they get cut. That's their way of adapting. We just don't want to go back and create that negative anchor, so we do the things that we did that were funny, and that helps us laugh our way back to health, if you will. That's the strategy. We know that there's some people that actually faint when they smell a chemical, and we've had those really sick patients. Know from our heart of hearts, we know you're suffering and how tough it is to live that life. You can't go to church anymore. When you become aware of this, it becomes a really, one of the most difficult lives that are out there. We do sympathize with you, but we also are here to give you hope. Then God will give you a puppy like Dr. Pompa has, to bring joy to your life. He definitely is a great dog. We love you guys. We appreciate you listening. Share the word. We have a new article coming out this Wednesday. If you're not on our list, go to DrPompa.com, get on our list. We have a new article coming out on the ketosis diet. Dr. Pompa has been hard at work revamping this article. That's going to be released on Wednesday, not this Saturday like we normally do, because we want to release it during the week. There will be more people that can watch it and share it throughout the week, so be looking for that article. Also, some of our toxic top ten things you need to switch in your home, toxic top ten. The number ten is another great resource for you. Take care. Have a great week everyone, or weekend. Thanks, Dr. Pompa.