296: The Power Of Deuterium Depletion

Episode 296: The Power Of Deuterium Depletion

with Dr. Anne Cooper and Dr. Que Collins

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Have you heard of Deuterium? Wait until you watch this. My general curiosity is very apparent here as I interview 2 experts on the topic of deuterium. Did you know that 75% of disease today, that can be affecting you and your family in a huge way, can come down to deuterium. Everyone should know how well they can deplete deuterium since it's the basis for health and disease!

When you have a serious metabolic disorder like cancer, chronic fatigue, cognitive decline, or Lyme disease, the worry is real. Repairing your damaged metabolism empowers your body to create more energy to heal itself from the inside out so you can focus on living your life the way you want to live it. My guests today have been studying the power of deuterium depletion for more than 30 years, and they recently tested me and Merily. We are going to share our results with you today, and interpret what it all means.

Curious to test your own levels? I have a special link just for my CHTV audience. Check out the notes below.

More about Dr. Anne Cooper:

A native of Australia, Dr. Anne Cooper, D.C., LAc. earned her Doctorate in Chiropractic from Cleveland Chiropractic College (Los Angeles), graduating with Honors in 1997, while on the Dean’s list and winning the Charles Gibson award for clinical excellence. Her growing commitment to total health and innovative healing therapies led her to continue on with over 20 years of post doctoral experience in Functional

Medicine and a Masters degree in Acupuncture and Traditional Chinese Medicine, graduating with

highest honors in 2011. Early in her career as a celebrity aesthetician working with great beauties such as Ava Gabor, she realized that where there is beauty, there MUST be health and that health must be established on a very deep cellular level.

-Master’s in Acupuncture and Traditional Chinese Medicine (Highest Honors)
-Doctorate of Chiropractic (Honors)
-Charles Gibson Clinic Entrance Award
-Licensed Aesthetician
-Certifications: Clinical Nutrition, Applied Kinesiology, Functional Medicine, Energetic Medicine, Herbal Medicine

At the Center for Deuterium Depletion, Dr. Cooper actively works with patients and guides their day-to-day therapy. She also is the Center’s healthcare professional liaison, helping other clinicians implement these protocols and services into their practices. Her expertise as both an experienced natural and

functional medicine practitioner helps bridge any communication gap between the Center’s principal and chief scientists’ training in allopathic medicine and the training received by chiropractors, naturopaths, acupuncturists, herbalists, nutritionists, and other partners in the medical field.

More about Dr. Que Collins:

Dr. Que Collins, PH.D., M.A., M.S. is the leading scientist when it comes to developing and applying nutrition and metabolic therapies to treat cancer in people and pets.

-Ph.D., Clinical Immunology
-M.S., Oncotherapeutics
-M.A., Experimental Pathology
-B.S., Poverty Health Care and Cancer Epidemiology

Co-Founder and Principal Investigator, Center for Deuterium Depletion – the world’s first organization to use deuterium and tracer technologies in a research clinic setting to describe and follow the health status of patients with metabolic disorders such as cancer, diabetes, and autoimmune disorders.

Principal Investigator, Epigenix Foundation – not-for-profit organization created by the founders of Quest Nutrition promoting research to prevent and ameliorate disease, maximize quality of life and/or improve personal performance.

Co-Founder and Principal Investigator, Ketopet Sanctuary – a 53-acre ranch outside Austin, Texas using the ketogenic diet and other metabolic therapies with and without standard of care to treat dogs with naturally occurring cancers.

Transcript:

Dr. Pompa:
Have you heard of the word deuterium? Probably not. Wait until you watch this episode. It’s going to blow you away, I promise you. As a matter of fact, you can see in this episode my general curiosity because this is a topic that I heard about a year ago. I’ll be honest with you; I blew it off as just another thing that’s coming into our world that really it’s small potatoes.

I interviewed two, a doctor and a scientist doctor, who is an immunologist whose name is on a lot of studies on deuterium. Yeah, it affects and he believes is a cause of 75% of disease today. He’s done a lot of studies on this, brilliant. You’re going to realize that this deuterium can be affecting you and your family in a huge way. It’s so easy to actually test and retest and to see what you’re doing if it’s actually working. Stay tuned for this episode of Cell TV.

Ashley:
Hello, everyone. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m Ashley Smith. Today, we will learn all about the science behind deuterium and its role in health and disease. We will hear everything we need to know about deuterium from what it is, from deuterium depletion, and cellular energy production.

We have two amazing doctors with us today from the Center of Deuterium Depletion, Dr. Que Collins, you can call him Dr. Que, and Dr. Anne Cooper. You will also see Dr. Pompa and Merily’s results here live on the show. You’ll learn more about these testing resources that are accessible to all of you. Let’s get started and welcome Doctors Que Collins and of course Dr. Pompa to the show. This is Cellular Healing TV.

Dr. Pompa:
Alright, welcome. This topic, I have had just a fascination for. Admittedly to you all before the show, I say I know very little about it. I think I interviewed Robert Slovak on Facebook Live. That was the first that I brought this topic to my audience. I would argue that they too know very little. Maybe they heard the word, but probably like me, have a zillion questions.

Okay, I want to start here just very briefly. Then I want you to tell your story on how you even got into this. Why would someone need to be concerned about this deuterium, something that we have—all have in our bodies that we’re exposed to, but new science is showing that this can lead to cancer, energy depletion, and a lot of other cellular problems? This is Cellular Healing TV. Very briefly, and we’ll expand upon this, why do we need to be concerned about this?

Dr. Cooper:
Alright, that our body is always trying to create homeostasis with whatever is going on. Deuterium is natural; it’s an element; it’s an atom; it’s basically a larger hydrogen, larger and heavier. Our body’s always trying to keep the water amounts in our body. However, due to our environment and our lifestyles, in the last few decades, we are accumulating more deuterium than our body is designed to handle. We always have all of these mechanisms in place to deplete or to handle the proper amounts of elements or substances such as potassium in our body. We are losing that ability because we have been overloaded with deuterium.

The consequences of the overload due to the size and heavier weight of deuterium, it actually makes water—and we are mostly made of water. When the water is made more of deuterium, it becomes a heavier and larger molecule, the water. As it gets into our cells and since we are really talking about cellular energy and cellular health, it does have a very large impact and quite a deleterious biological impact on all of our systems due to the fact that it’s so large that once it gets inside our mitochondria, it can actually break the function of our cells from producing cellular energy.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, which again affects detox, affects how fast you’re aging or not. Obviously, it can cause bad cells, cancer. All of these things happen. Okay, we’re going to dive down, folks, because I know like me, there’s a zillion questions about just what you said. That was a great intro.

Alright, how did you all get into this? You have your own clinic. How did you find this? How long have you been into this? Give us a little history from you and this whole topic.

Dr. Collins:
I’m a clinical immunologist. I’ve been doing this for 35 years. I’m also one of the leading I guess godfathers of keto and keto diets for cancer. We got together about four years ago. I met our Chief Scientist, Laszlo Boros, at a meeting that I had in Florida called Metabolic Therapeutics, which is one of the largest meetings for keto heads and the first meeting that was started about four years ago about using—applying keto therapeutics and keto to different diseases. We had 5,000 people there last year in California, so it’s one of the largest meetings in the country.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, Dr. Dom has spoken at my—

Dr. Collins:
Yep, Dom has. I started this out with Dom about almost seven, eight years ago when my wife developed a glioblastoma. That’s how I came into the realm of understanding about keto. My wife was probably one of the first people on the planet that really used keto for cancer.

What we did was take everything from Dom’s lab and all the labs across the country. I opened an adult study where I tried all these different drugs and keto diets on dogs. If it worked, it went into my wife. With her glioblastoma, she lived for about two years; was given five weeks to live.

We’ll fast forward from there. I went to work for Quest Nutrition. From there, I opened a 52-acre sanctuary for dogs with cancer. Low and behold, we started using ketogenic diets and deuterium depleted water as a first step to do clinical trials in people. That’s when Dr. Boros came in with Dr. Somlyai in Hungary, who is one of the inventors of deuterium depletion, so unlocked a lot of things.

We’ve actually been doing this a total of about 30 years between the three of us. We’ve published over 100 papers, and treated over 1,200 patients, and published two books. I know it doesn’t—it seems like a lot of people don’t know, but within the academic community, we are the leaders. A lot of people do know we teach this at UCLA; we teach it at Washington; we teach at Penn State; we teach at a lot of universities now in the medical schools.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, exactly. Despite your amazing efforts, if I asked ten people right now on the street, they’d look at me like, huh? Listen, if I asked ten people about keto, they’d be like I’ve heard of it; I just don’t know what it is.

Dr. Collins:
It is crazy. You’re so right. As a matter of fact, keto, we have to always laugh and I tell Dr. Cooper because nobody knew what keto was. When I worked for Quest, they said, well, what do you want to do? I said, “I want to make keto famous in four years.” Four years now, it’s now the Number One searched topic on Google. We’re hoping to improve—

Dr. Pompa:
I said that about fasting in the ‘90s. Gosh, I couldn’t get anyone interested. Now, finally.

Dr. Collins:
Yeah, I love fasting; I really do. It’s a—

Dr. Pompa:
The fastest way into ketosis. Anyways, so okay, let’s give a little history of—you said a lot of terms that people are going, wait, so what’s good, a lot of deuterium, deuterium depletion, deuterium depleted water, deuterium depleted? Give us a history about this. It sounds like it came out of Russia. Give us a history of this and where we’re at today.

Dr. Collins:
Deuterium actually was used in the nuclear energy in our nuclear bomb industry. That’s where it came from, making nuclear weapons. That was with Russia, China. If you find a lot of places where deuterium water—deuterium depleted water is coming now from, it’s from former facilities in the communist countries that had them. Then in the early ‘70s and ‘90s, Gabor helped with the Romanian Academy of Sciences. They built the first Deuterium Depleted Water facility that had nothing to do with nuclear stuff.

Dr. Pompa:
They needed to deplete the deuterium out of the water for the nuclear facility to process, etc?

Dr. Collins:
Right, that’s the thing that causes that bomb, part of the fuses.

Dr. Pompa:
Right, so it’s safe to say then all water has some level of deuterium? Otherwise, we wouldn’t be trying to deplete it of it.

Dr. Collins:
Right, the average water has 155 parts per million. For every million hydrogens, there are 155 deuterium.

Dr. Pompa:
Okay, alright. Some water obviously has a lot more than others?

Dr. Collins:
Right; yeah, and that depends. It’s really interesting that you asked that because it depends on where it’s taken. Water at the top of a mountain in the ice has lower amounts of deuterium; waters in valleys and in oceans have higher amounts. Waters around the equator have higher amounts; waters at the poles have lower amounts. That’s not the deuterium; that’s deuterium also in the water, but also in the atmosphere in the humidity.

Dr. Pompa:
I would argue like this, okay, like heavy metals. We’re always going to be exposed to some degree. Can’t avoid it; heavy metals are in the air; heavy metals are in food. If you analyzed heavy metals on broccoli, there’s going to be some level because it’s in the soil. The point is it’s similar to that like deuterium. Meaning that the body, if it’s less—if it’s a normal amount, the body, a healthy body gets rid of it. Otherwise, it could bioaccumulate.

Dr. Collins:
Actually, no. Deuterium is not a toxin. Deuterium is actually required for your body to actually operate properly to form the right three-dimensional structures on things like redox reactions and in the hydrogens and oxygens and calcium. It determines all those things.

What is the bad problem is once it gets too high as Dr. Cooper said, it starts to be so heavy, it breaks your mitochondria, these things called nanomotors that make your ATP. You stop being able to sleep. You get depressed and all these other things start to happen. It’s not like mercury or Osage. It’s not a toxin.

Dr. Pompa:
Alright, great. Yeah, so just when it accumulates to a certain level, then it becomes a problem in the cell because you said it’s heavy.

Dr. Collins:
Yes.

Dr. Pompa:
Okay, great. That’s a great answer right there. Here’s the next question I think the logical question is what became the problem? Meaning that it’s naturally in the environment. Our bodies function with a certain amount of it. Why all of a sudden are we bioaccumulating or having too much?

Dr. Cooper:
It’s not really all of a sudden. It has accumulated in our bodies more and more over the last few decades. It has to do with our—

Dr. Pompa:
That’s kind of all of a sudden.

Dr. Cooper:
Okay, but compared to our great-great-grandparents, there’s quite a bit of difference in the health status in the world. A lot of it does have to do with the foods that we are consuming. There was really very low processed foods. There wasn’t potato chips around for them to grab into at those days. Mostly, it was they ate naturally.

There’s always been stress in the world, but I think in the last few decades, particularly in the last decade, the technology, it’s just a low-grade chronic stress where people cannot relax as much as well as they used to. It really isn’t getting their REM Sleep and REM sleep is a natural deuterium depletion method. It’s also accumulating in the atmosphere, what we’re breathing.

The problem with it, once we get too much, it does—not only does it cause problems when it’s in our system, but it does slow down our natural mechanisms for removing it. Therefore, the more you’re exposed to, the less you can get rid of before the more you’re exposed to. It’s going in that adverse downhill direction. We need to switch that around.

Dr. Pompa:
Alright, so doing a test to see where you are, that’s where I wanted to start. As a matter of fact, let’s share my test. Ashley will help us with that. Then you get to teach from that just to give people an idea.

Obviously, my viewers and listeners know, hey, I do all these biohacks. I’ve been eating a very healthy diet for a long time. However, I was still suboptimal despite my efforts. Not that I was making any. By the way, I was making no efforts to make my deuterium levels better. This was just me living.

I started with the test just to see where I was at. That way, I can say, okay, great; I’m going to do some things to try to deplete it. Then I can even bring you onto a Part Two show. I love doing that by the way, doing something and then doing a Part Two. Okay, so walk us through the test, my results.

Dr. Collins:
Okay, go ahead here.

Dr. Cooper:
Okay, so I see that the Breathy Test—

Dr. Pompa:
By the way, some people are just listening to the download, the audio. Try to play like it’s radio, too. Try to be as descriptive as you can.

Dr. Cooper:
Oh, okay. I’ve got Breathy both times.

Dr. Collins:
Yeah, that’s—go ahead.

Dr. Cooper:
I see that your breath test is 141.8.

Dr. Pompa:
By the way, we did—we measured with the test. We did breath and we did saliva. This is the breath portion.

Dr. Cooper:
Yes, and then the saliva component is—where am I reading? Oh, there it is, you’re doing it for me, thank you, is 146.3. We always look the actual numbers, but what’s also important is to be able to compare those two numbers to each other because we want to know what your load is in your tissues. We also want to get an indication of how well or unwell your own natural mechanisms for removing deuterium are working.

We can compare those two numbers together. We get a lot of information just with those two numbers. We call it the D-Factor. That’s your ability to remove your own deuterium which we have many mechanisms of doing.

Dr. Pompa:
It gives you a number on that as well, right?

Dr. Cooper:
Yeah.

Dr. Collins:
Yes.

Dr. Pompa:
Scroll down, Ashley. Then we can take a look at that. Okay, this is not what I was talking about. This is the ATP Production Factor.

Dr. Cooper:
Yeah, there is a relationship between your deuterium levels and your ATP production. As I explained before, it has an effect on your cellular energy production. We do see those numbers change very well and rather quickly once we get people on a deuterium depletion program.

Dr. Pompa:
Okay, we’re going to discuss that program, folks. Just so you know, greater than 51.3 is where you want to be, correct?

Dr. Collins:
Yeah, when you really look at this—let’s go back. Here’s what people when you read this as—and I’m glad you’re bringing this up. We really use this as a baseline to see where people are. What this shows for you, you’re in pretty good shape.

Now, what we’ll do is look at a lot of other things: really how you breathe, what you do every day, how you sleep, to see how we can get that better. You’re exactly right that you’re in that range to where you’re in that okay range as long as you don’t have cancer or a metabolic disease. If there was something there, then we’d really put you on a program to try to get that lower to get more energy, those redox reactions to start working, your cellular membranes to start working better. That’s how it starts.

Dr. Pompa:
Then okay, scroll down again, Ashley. This is what we were talking about, the difference between the two numbers. Your ability to get rid of it, is that what this number is?

Dr. Collins:
Yes, and it’s a measure. Again, just measuring salvia alone or urine alone is like a waste of time because it really doesn’t tell you anything. What you want to know is from the breath which is a marker for how much is in your tissue, how much is in your brain, how much is in your lungs. That’s what this is—that’s what the breath is for. You want to know how much is—your body is able to take in and how much it’s able to get out. That’s this percentage here.

As you can see in yours, you have a very low—your ability to deplete is lower. However, we talked a little bit before you started and you told me you use red light. This is something that we know that’s going to happen with red light because it tends to suppress to get rid of what’s in your tissues, but it doesn’t get rid of it out of your body.

Dr. Pompa:
Red light then, it alters this number, but is it good or bad for deuterium?

Dr. Collins:
It’s good because what it allows you to do, it allows less deuterium to be in your tissues with the mitochondria.

Dr. Pompa:
I got it.

Dr. Collins:
What we’d have to do is to fix your—a couple of things about fixing. Now, you can get rid of extra stuff that’s coming out can get out of your body so you would see even a lower saliva number.

Dr. Pompa:
I got it. The red light, I do it, it moves it out of my tissue, but now, we have to help it all the way out of the body or just take in less, am I right?

Dr. Collins:
Correct, that is it.

Dr. Pompa:
Alright, okay. By the way, interestingly, we don’t have time to show my wife’s, but it was almost identical. Two people eating the same food, living in the same house, living the same lifestyle. We both do red light. We both do the same things. It tested very similar. Do you see that often, people that are living in the same house, doing the same things?

Dr. Collins:
Yes, we see. This is what’s so amazing. We see that until there’s something wrong with one of the spouses. Then if there’s a difference, then we know that one of them with the faulty dysfunctional deuterium factor that’s here, then we know that he or she most likely has some kind of metabolic dysfunction disease. We get them to go to the doctor to find out what it is.

Dr. Pompa:
Interesting.

Dr. Collins:
We find this all the time as a matter of fact.

Dr. Pompa:
Okay, one of the things you all provided for my viewers and listeners is a discount on being able to get the test done. Ashley will put up those links there. How much is this test? Then I think they get 20% off of this even if they want a consultation for somebody to go over the result with them. That way, they actually get something out of it. How much is this test?

Dr. Collins:
The test for them is going to be about $260. We’re also going to put out for them the ability for them to be in a study where they can even get more off. They can see how they can get better and see what their deuterium levels are. They use red light and all these other things and be like you, so that’s what we’ll offer that to them to.

Dr. Pompa:
Gosh, be like me, I wasn’t very happy with my result.

Dr. Collins:
It’s not bad; it really isn’t bad.

Dr. Pompa:
I’m still motivated to see how low I can get it. Okay, but we’re going to talk about that. Let’s talk about again how this is affecting people. Where are their exposures outside of water? Talk about that. Where are there exposures and how is this affecting people so people can look at their life and go, oh okay, that can be a problem?

Dr. Cooper:
We do know that GMOs make things grow fast. It’s loaded in deuterium. Children and teenagers do need deuterium to grow, but past a certain age, we don’t need to be growing so much anymore. Generally, people grow out instead of up after a certain age. It also encourages the growth of other things that we don’t want. GMOs are high in deuterium. Pretty much processed foods; they use deuterium to process those foods. Sugar, we each so much sugar than way back when our grandparents did.

Dr. Pompa:
What do you mean by they use deuterium to process those foods?

Dr. Cooper:
They use the hydrogen. Remember hydrogenated oil?

Dr. Pompa:
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Cooper:
That’s deuterium.

Dr. Collins:
If you think about it, what Dr. Cooper is saying, when you use tap water, you’re using water that has high levels of deuterium to make something; therefore, the easiest things to come off and recover are the heavy hydrogens because the light ones float away. You’re building this Frankenstein monster that has high levels of deuterium on it.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, and we don’t drink ever, we don’t drink tap water. We don’t eat GMOs ever. Even at a restaurant, I’m asking, where’s this from, the corn, the soil? No vegetable oil, soil, all these things that are high in those things.

Dr. Cooper:
It’s very difficult to find any low—well, it’s almost impossible to find low deuterium depleted water on planet Earth anymore.

Dr. Pompa:
That’s where I was going next, yeah. In other words, we do all the food things; however, we’re still—every bit of water is still high deuterium, correct?

Dr. Collins:
Yeah. Not only that but now—

Dr. Pompa:
It’s not exposure, note that.

Dr. Collins:
Yes, well, not only that but not only are you—you’ve got to remember all the food that you’re eating is exposed to high deuterium levels. That’s not even the same as it used to be when our grandparents are coming up. That’s higher, too.

Dr. Pompa:
The foods are higher because—I just want to clean it up one more time for other’s sake.

Dr. Collins:
Yeah, the foods are higher for—because they’re taking in that—they’re using river water. The rain water’s now higher. The humidity is higher. All of these things, the farming principles don’t allow “the plants to sleep like they use to sleep before” because now they’re—instead of it going for a whole season, they aim to have corn growing for six weeks, or a chicken for six weeks, it’s full grown. These things are not going through their cycles to get rid of their deuterium anymore.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, so basically, the planet is not detoxing itself from the deuterium levels; and therefore, that ends up in our water. Glyphosate is in whatever it is, 70% of the water, even the rainfall. That’s a chemical. How much is something natural would be in there that our environment controls? It’s not able to control this, so these levels are building up in the environment, and therefore, our body.

Dr. Collins:
Yeah, that’s wonderful because it’s even global—or the climate change that we’re seeing, that’s also driven by hydrogens, the ratio between hydrogen-deuterium. Even that has to do with deuterium because heat, the transfer of heat from the sun actually is a transfer from oxygen to the oxygen-hydrogen bond. It’s not CO2, but oxygen and hydrogen. As you get deuterium on it, deuterium can’t transfer that energy; and therefore, it starts to heat up the earth. It is really connected.

Dr. Pompa:
We could have a whole global warming debate. I feel like man has very little to do with it.

Dr. Collins:
No, I don’t—what I’m trying to say—I don’t care what the reason. It’s simply that this is the biology, this is the reason for it.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, exactly. You’re right. That’s still occurring regardless. I get that and I agree with you on that. Okay, interesting.

Now, here’s the other question I know people are thinking because I ask this question: well, can’t we just filter our water out? We could not eat those foods and we could filter it out. If it were only so easy was what was said to me.

Dr. Cooper:
It’s a great thought and it’s made nice that people make an effort to try to make things better, but it just doesn’t. It’s so small you cannot filter it out.

Dr. Pompa:
RO distillation doesn’t even get it out?

Dr. Cooper:
No.

Dr. Collins:
No.

Dr. Cooper:
You have to have it—you have to get it out enough for it to be therapeutically beneficial.

Dr. Collins:
Distillation, deuterium depleted water is made from distillation, but it’s a seven-million-dollar disinflation for that.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, right, the process is like [00:25:22].

Dr. Collins:
Yeah, it’s not the one we have in our house.

Dr. Pompa:
This tube or whatever that goes up like I don’t know how high, you can tell me, and it’s distilled with this level because it’s heavy, so they have to go really high. Am I right on that process?

Dr. Collins:
Yes, you’re exactly right. Again, it’s not the water; it’s the food that is now be drinking the water. That’s really the catch, it’s the food.

Dr. Cooper:
We also use the water in the beginning as pretty much maybe a good kickstart to get things going, but it’s really not only about deuterium depleted water because we really teach people how they can kick in their own natural mechanisms for removing it, how they can limit their intake, and how they can have a lifestyle that they can continue to do for the rest of their life. Once we’ve got them in a good position that they really don’t need as much any—at all even because they have these tools to manage their own deuterium levels, therefore, their future.

Dr. Pompa:
I like that it’s testable. The testing is very accurate. Let’s say I did a test today and I did one tomorrow the next day. Where would my results—how close would they be?

Dr. Collins:
They would be the same.

Dr. Pompa:
Okay, I love that. I love accurate; I love reproducibility in a test. That’s a great place to start. Then I also love the fact now that we can retest and see what we’re doing, is it helping? I think that’s very motivating. Would I notice a difference? Do people get their levels down and go, oh my gosh, my cellular energy is so much better. My headaches are gone.

Dr. Cooper:
Dr. Pompa, I’m like you; I’m a chiropractor. The first thing that we learned the first day at chiropractor school was that we have our own innate intelligence; therefore, as we are lowering our deuterium levels, our body is the one that makes the decisions on what needs to be repaired first. What’s the most important priority?

Dr. Pompa:
That’s what fasting is. Fasting, the body makes a decision, you know what, I’m going to repair this first, and then that, and then this, so I get that.

Dr. Cooper:
Therefore, your body is going to make the decision. People do vary in their symptomatic relief. Sometimes you may have symptoms, but that energy may—your cellular energy may go to fixing what you—what’s causing the symptoms or it may find something more important to fix, so people respond at their own level.

However, having said that, most—almost most people that we work with within the first few weeks have reported to me, Anne, I feel more energetic big time. I feel more refreshed in the morning. I’m sleeping better. I don’t need as much sleep. Cognition, people really report that they can read and write better, and focus, and think more clearly.

Dr. Pompa:
Dr. Que, I have to ask you this question being an immunologist. What effects do you see in studies on the immune system which is a big deal today?

Dr. Collins:
Inflammation, we’ve published several papers. Inflammation’s related to deuterium levels. The honing of the immune factors all—the three-dimensional structure of all—once your deuterium levels are high, the three-dimensional structures, all your cytokines are changed. Therefore, you start to see differences there. Oncogenes are turned on and off depending on your deuterium levels and ATP. All these things you already know, but it’s just they’re—it’s simply the foundation of biology. It’s highly effective.

That’s important because we did segue to something really nice. That is, at the end of the day, our focus on cancer while we can talk about energy. What’s really neat is that while it makes normal cells—gives them much more energy, it takes away the energy of cancer cells. Cancer cells need deuterium to grow; without it, they’re done.

Dr. Pompa:
There’s actually studies showing that the cancer cells need the deuterium. Obviously, you’ve been through every study almost, if not all.

Dr. Collins:
We wrote most of them.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I was just going to say that or have you been involved in at least most of them. Yeah, that’s exciting. Okay, what conditions, cancer being one of them obviously, is deuterium directly correlated to that you think, listen, the rise in cancer is absolutely affected to the rise in deuterium levels? Do you believe that?

Dr. Collins:
Yeah, we’ve published epidemiological papers that can show the higher places of higher amounts of deuterium and your inability—that’s where you see—epidemiological studies have shown an increase in cancer in those places like San Francisco and wine.

Dr. Pompa:
Are there other correlation studies, other conditions?

Dr. Collins:
Yeah, and why in Utah and Colorado, why the cancer rate is lower. You also have a lower deuterium level in Utah, in Colorado because you guys are higher levels.

Dr. Pompa:
Oh, so that’s what it is; it’s the elevation?

Dr. Collins:
Yes.

Dr. Cooper:
Deuterium is too heavy to float that high.

Dr. Pompa:
Unfortunately, we’re eating food that’s growing where other people are making food.

Dr. Collins:
That’s exactly it. Things are not supposed to do this.

Dr. Pompa:
Our spring water might be better if we got spring water from here, which we actually have a local source. Our air, it’s less in our environment, but unfortunately, as you pointed out, most of it’s probably coming from our food sources.

Dr. Collins:
Yes, very good.

Dr. Pompa:
Alright, what are some of the other conditions that the studies are supporting that are linked to high deuterium levels in the body? Cancer was one.

Dr. Collins:
Oh, cancer. Again, anything that’s a metabolic disorder is related, directly related to deuterium.

Dr. Pompa:
Diabetes, obviously.

Dr. Collins:
Diabetes, cardiovascular disease, Alzheimer’s, premature aging. We’re even working with the state of Ohio on the opioid crisis. Depression, anxiety, papers have been published on all of these things. It really sounds like Windex, but it is at the base because it’s just hydrogens and we’re 66% hydrogen. It’s at the base of almost all metabolic disorders if it’s not genetic. There are some genetic disorders, but 99% of disorders are not genetic.

Dr. Pompa:
What percentage would you say deuterium is related—and I know you don’t have an exact number. This is just your opinion just to step outside of [00:31:54].

Dr. Collins:
No, I am not afraid to say that if it’s mitochondrial dysfunction, its deuterium related. There’s very little doubt about that. If you take the biggest scourges of the not on this country, but on the world, and you say 75% of those people die from these diseases, 75% die because the deuterium levels are too high.

Dr. Pompa:
That’s just fascinating to me. How easy is it, and we’re moving into this next topic because I know my viewers are like okay, where do I get it
? How easy is it to change that number on that test? How long will it take for someone who’s even worse than me to get in a safe range?

Dr. Cooper:
This is what people love to see because generally within the first four to six weeks, they can come from a rather high range to close to or into the desired range. The deuterium depleted water really flushes out that deuterium to enable your body to work properly. It happens quickly.

Dr. Pompa:
The deuterium depleted water acts like a magnet, a chelator, or how does it work like that?

Dr. Cooper:
This is how I explain it. If your car engine were to end up with very thick gluggy oil in it, your motor can’t go. You can’t get anywhere. You would force in oil into it. Essentially, you’re full of this deuterium, heavy water. You’re going to put low deuterium water in to flush out that heavy water.

Dr. Pompa:
Alright, I like the oil analogy.

Dr. Cooper:
Men like that.

Dr. Pompa:
If I can get one for my women then. I thought that was good for everybody.

Dr. Collins:
I know; shame on you.

Dr. Cooper:
My dad taught me mechanics early on, so I’m in, but yeah, the guys really get that one.

Dr. Pompa:
Alright, but you put in enough of the bad, and you’re putting in new, and it’s going to be new after a period of time.

Dr. Cooper:
Then it’s like going to the gym. You go and you’re getting your muscle. You don’t want to stop. You want to maintain those levels for enough time to allow your body to kick in its own natural mechanisms. You’re going to accumulate more energy. The relationship between deuterium and ATP production, ATP energy is going to go up. Now, your body can kick in its own natural detox mechanisms better.

It’s going to be able to extract nutrients from your food better. You’re going to be able to function as you did when you were younger the longer you maintain those deuterium levels until you get to a point where we can start weening people off the deuterium depleted water. By doing all these other modules, we call them lifestyle factors, we—the more we encourage people or the more motivated people to get these other factors, they can let go of the water and just get tested once a year and then determine what they need to do or not.

Dr. Pompa:
Okay, yeah, well, let’s talk about all of the things that we need to do. If we had okay, here’s the program. You already started this. You already said get rid of all processed foods, GMOs. I’m going to make the argument—and most of my listeners are probably going, yeah, we’ll I’ve done that, but that’s where you start. Then what?

Dr. Collins:
Your listeners are going to laugh because it’s everything you already know: sleeping better, again, less stress, proper exercise, learning how to breathe correctly. Everybody’s always used these words, but what we’re able to do is quantify what you need to do. We look at how long you can hold your breath as a measure of how much oxygen you have in your tissue. How much oxygen you have in your tissue is directly related to your ability to bleed deuterium out of those tissues because oxygen binds with deuterium to make heavy water and get it out of your body.

Sleep, the same way. We can look at your sleep and see if your REM and deep sleep, fix those, that starts to remove it. A matter of fact, just people doing deuterium depleted water or a couple of our little modules, they actually—their sleep starts fixing itself. We have people that were insomniacs that can’t sleep, that sleep apnea got reversed without doing anything. It’s deuterium related, not—it’s not a physical thing is what we’ve—

Dr. Pompa:
The water helps. Of course, my viewers and listeners right now are going, well, how do I get this water? Where do I get it at? That’s a problem because it’s not cheap to produce this water, am I right? Then it becomes, well, I can’t drink all of my water from that because I don’t have enough space in my house.

Dr. Collins:
That’s good. Here’s what we tell people. I thank you for that question. Again, deuterium depleted water is an easy way, a great Band-Aid to get down. Most people don’t need to spend the expense of using deuterium depleted water.

We can show them how to get up, when to—how to breathe, when to go in the sun, all those things you already teach people, but we can put it to an exact science. That’s what we offer. They use these different tests to say, this is when you need to do it. This is when it works for your body.

We can look at your cholesterol. Say your cholesterol is exuberated. Let’s get your cholesterol [00:37:03] amount of cholesterol. Therefore, now, you can make vitamin D. You can make estrogen. You can make testosterone. You can make bile, all these things that you couldn’t do before.

Yes, the deuterium depleted water is available. Quite personally, I think it’s really important for people with cancer and metabolic disorders first and secondarily as a hack. Great, use it for a little while but only use it for a little while because you don’t want to set your body up to where it’s dependent on the water and you’re not doing the right things to fix yourself.

Dr. Pompa:
Alright, well, again, I appreciate that answer because, again, my viewers are like, I can’t afford to buy deuterium. Okay, it’s a good place to start; if you have an illness, definitely a good place to start, but all of these other things really matter most.

Dr. Cooper:
Dr. Pompa, we actually make this deuterium depleted metabolic water in ourselves given the right circumstances. We are teaching that eventually, we’ll be—you’ll be making this deuterium depleted water where you won’t be so thirsty. You won’t even have the need to drink your high levels of deuterium depleted water because you’re going to make more of your own.

Dr. Pompa:
Okay, now, here’s the thing. Name some other biohacks. Red light therapy you said is a really good way. There’s different types: there’s red, there’s near-infrared, there’s far-infrared. Do studies show which one’s better for this?

Dr. Collins:
We do a lot of studies. We know red light, we know sound.

Dr. Cooper:
The combination.

Dr. Collins:
Yeah, the combination of the two. There’s vibrational energies. All these things travel through water. As you know, it travels through water. That viscosity of the water is changed by the level of deuterium that’s in it. That’s really just the way to think of it; it really is.

When Anne says thick gluggy oil, that’s not a bad way of thinking about this. It’s just not as thick and gluggy, but it really is thicker. That little bit keeps those light rays from getting into your skin, and getting onto your receptors, and getting to your gut like they should be able to get into your brain so your brain can operate better. Indeed—

Dr. Cooper:
We have vibrational energy. You don’t want to slow that resonance down; you want to raise it up so you can resonate at a higher level. You can do that because sound and light move by a frequency or a resonance. If it’s bumping into deuterium, it’s going to fracture—fragment that and break it down. As we lower your deuterium, you benefit so much better from all of these other biohacking methods because it can not impede them.

Dr. Pompa:
Okay, so what would you say for someone like me to lower my deuterium levels because my viewers and listeners are people like me? What would you say, yeah, here’s what you need to do? Because my REMs, I measure my sleep, my deep sleep. I get well over two hours a night on REM sleep. I can prove that in a second.

I have my own little thing. I get a lot of deep sleep. I average probably two hours a night in deep sleep. Then I even get more REM sleep.

Okay, that’s good, but yet my levels still weren’t perfect. I do red light every day. I’m out in the sun a lot; I purposely do that. I exercise. I don’t eat processed foods. What do you tell me?

Dr. Collins:
I think the best—the first thing we’d probably start with you is breathing, is learning—to see how you breathe, how long, what is your oxygen content of your cells or of your muscles?

Dr. Pompa:
When I compare myself, my son can hold his breath for three to five minutes at a time. If he does breath [sparsting], he can go longer, but just off the cold. I can only hold my breath for maybe a minute and a half.

Dr. Cooper:
That’s a start.

Dr. Collins:
When we talk about breath-hold, we’re talking about on exhale. That’s the big difference is you want to get it all—what you’re trying to do is get it all out and then how long you can hold your breath on the exhale.

Dr. Pompa:
Oh, I’ve never tried that. I always breathe in and hold my breath.

Dr. Collins:
Yeah, that’s what’s so weird. It’s not measuring lung capacity, but your ability of what’s left in your tissues after it’s gone. Really, that’s what we’d start working on first.

Dr. Pompa:
What’s a good number there to exhale?

Dr. Collins:
If you look at this, we try—a good number is 45 seconds. Anything lower than 45 seconds—most cancer patients can only hold their breath for 10 seconds, almost like hyperventilating, diabetes patients, obese patients. If you can get up to a minute and over a minute, that’s where we see our professional athletes and our Olympic gold medalists. We had six Olympic gold medalists last year or last Olympics. They use this as a true biohack at the top of athletics.

Dr. Pompa:
Okay, let’s talk about that. You said on me breathing would be a big deal, a big additional. What about hyperbaric?

Dr. Collins:
Hyperbaric oxygen?

Dr. Pompa:
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Collins:
Yeah, both ozone and hyperbaric oxygen are—actually help remove deuterium because again, it forces oxygen into you. It’s better on hyperbaric oxygen therapy at atmospheres that are greater than 1.9, 2 atmospheres.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, which makes a problem because those machines aren’t as affordable.

Dr. Collins:
Yeah, there’s no doubt about it. What we use it for, we use it different than most people. Again, we wrote a paper some time ago on ketogenics and hyperbaric oxygen therapy showing how that worked and how intermittent fasting and fasting works with it. That’s with Dominic.

Dr. Pompa:
You know—go ahead.

Dr. Collins:
What you can use that for is to get rid of it in your tissue and then with deuterium depletion, you don’t feed in the bad stuff anymore. You don’t have to do hyperbaric oxygen for 13, 14 sessions because you just use it almost like IV water to get the stuff out of you because the oxygen bonds it. Now, you’re able to now lower that 5 or 6 points, make it easier to get below 130.

Dr. Pompa:
With the water, you can get a jump on it to your point before no matter what you do, then apply all of these things. Okay, are there any other tips right now that this is how you get rid of it?

Dr. Collins:
Yeah, what we’ve actually set up is we’re starting to tell you guys we started a new portal which we call [My-tabulism] which takes all these markers that you have for mitochondria dysfunction. Patients or clients can actually follow where those mitochondrial markers are. We use a Fitbit watch to track your—how much time you’ve been walking, and your resting heart rate, your HRV. We can actually adjust those even getting your differences between—you sleep great.

Now, pretty soon, the question is, how low is your resting heart rate while you sleep versus your resting heart rate while you’re up. Those are things that change in this modern society that we’re actually after there to know how to make that greater, that part bigger. Therefore, your sleep is not only more sleep but more restorative sleep. That’s one. Sleep, it’s really the—biohacking is great, but you have to know what you know of how it works.

We look at things like that. We work on your resting heart rate. We work on your heart rate variability. We work on skin integrity. We work on your gut.

When you talk about gut and everybody talking about how the gut works, bacteria take deuterium out of your body. That’s what they’re for. We work with a lot of Crohn’s Disease and IBS patients because the problem is they can’t—their gut’s not stable. They can’t remove deuterium from their body. That’s why they get this illness for so long.

Dr. Pompa:
Interesting; what percentage of the population, you see the tests come in, are normal, absolutely spot on normal?

Dr. Cooper:
Very few. Go ahead.

Dr. Collins:
Yeah, there’s very few, as Dr. Cooper said. Let me make sure we tell it because our people are skewed. The people that really come to us come to us because they know something’s wrong.

Dr. Pompa:
I would argue a lot of your people are probably in the red zone, right?

Dr. Collins:
Oh, yes. It’s just amazing. We can’t say this is a diagnostic test, but there’s not a day that doesn’t go by where we don’t get a test in and have to write one of those letters that say, go you see your physician immediately. We can’t tell you something’s wrong, but they need to tell you.

Dr. Pompa:
Wow, it’s that accurate that when you—

Dr. Collins:
It’s that accurate.

Dr. Pompa:
What level on that—you said to me that it’s the breath that matters most. What level would you be like concerned and tell someone to go see their doctor?

Dr. Collins:
In a vacuum, we would say things that are over 150 that we start to worry.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s pretty high.

Dr. Collins:
Especially if they get—we had a patient that came into us over 155, which shouldn’t exist.

Dr. Pompa:
Okay, wow.

Dr. Collins:
At the same time, once you start to look at a whole clinical history, it can actually be lower than that because you have got to see what else is going on. We’ve gotten it past an art because we’ve done so many patients, but it’s not as—it’s not just as simple as people think it is who haven’t done it before. Wouldn’t you agree?

Dr. Cooper:
Yeah, I just wanted to make sure we say, Dr. Pompa, about the breathing, there’s cancer patients, in fact, a lot of them have trouble getting to six seconds. I see a lot of patients who start out at 12 seconds and it does not mean that they are a cancer patient so that all of your clients aren’t going to measure their breath-hold and get worried. It does mean that they really are very low oxygen content in their body. They probably have some metabolic disease.

Dr. Pompa:
Alright, I rarely do this, but I’m going to do this today. I want Ashley to come back on because I want her to ask a couple questions that are on her mind right now. I’m so intrigued that oftentimes I leave the show like this regretting that I didn’t ask that question or my viewers say, gosh, I wish you would have asked this. Ashley, there’s so many questions here. I feel like I’m missing them because my brain is processing. Ashley, do you have questions about this?

Ashley:
I’m the same way because this—for me, this is all so new as well. I didn’t take a test, but I’m curious when you would think somebody does need to take a test or do you think it’s pretty much appropriate for everybody?

Dr. Collins:
I think this is yours.

Dr. Cooper:
My feeling is that everybody should have their deuterium levels tested because it’s going to give them more power over how they’re going to deal with their life. Once you manage your deuterium levels, frankly, all of the other markers may change. I would rather test deuterium levels first, get that under control, and then do a lot of the other tests.

Because I was doing a lot of testing, functional testing doctor doing a lot of fat testing, thyroid testing, hormonal testing. I don’t do that anymore because once I learned about deuterium, I really did feel like I was still working upstream. My whole goal has always been try to find out the best way to approach these patients and try to find the best way to get them better.

Many people have so many different things going wrong that we end up testing all over the map. Forget it. I just test their deuterium levels. I give their body the opportunity for their own innate intelligence to kick back in, fix a lot of things. Then I can come in and do—see what else your body has really not been able—is so damaged that it needs a little bit of assistance rectifying.

Dr. Pompa:
Ashley, you can reexplain what they’ve given our viewers, 20% off the test. You’ll put the links in, right?

Ashley:
Yeah, I’ll definitely put the links here. Just to let you know, there’s a few different tests as well as the study that people can volunteer to be a part of as well which is a really cool opportunity. I might actually do that myself.

Dr. Collins:
They’ll also be able to measure the water and the food, so whatever they want to do.

Dr. Pompa:
Oh yeah, that’s right, the water, the water you drink for sure, right? I can test even the spring water that we get versus my RO water that I have. Food, is it the food you eat every day all the time? Is that the one you would measure or just random?

Dr. Cooper:
We have some people who just love to eat a certain thing and they just want to know. You’re not going to obviously test every food you eat.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that was my point, yeah.

Dr. Cooper:
We’ve got some people who just love this certain shake or something and the powder or whatever the use. They don’t want to give it up. We’ll test it and then they’ll make their own decision. Maybe it’s not worth it.

Dr. Collins:
Also—

Dr. Pompa:
How do I get the other tests because if we do another show on this, which we will because I’ll retest my things to Ash? I want to know what my levels are and we’ll share that.

Dr. Collins:
Definitely, it’s the same way you can use the food test. You were asking how to test if one type of—a place that you get beef or fish from is lower in one place than another place. It’s really quite convenient. It may sound silly, but there are differences. We measure the difference in cattle for instance that have a difference of 15 parts per million in the cattle. You’re eating cattle with high deuterium levels. It’s not good for you. It’s like, don’t do it, but you think you’re doing well.

Dr. Pompa:
Are kids’ levels generally lower than adults?

Dr. Cooper:
No, because children and teenagers need deuterium to grow. I’ve actually also used this for women trying to get pregnant, having difficulty getting pregnant, very successfully. We do watch the mom’s deuterium levels because she needs enough deuterium to pass on for her fetus to grow properly. Also, past a certain age, under a certain age, your children are using that deuterium to replicate and grow.

Dr. Pompa:
Again, just so that people understand, it’s a heavier hydrogen. That’s how your body can actually utilize this. Is there a supplement that someone that you have discovered helps this?

Dr. Collins:
We’re working on not per se a supplement. We know that most medical—well, we wrote a paper, a couple papers now. We know that most medications for instance like Metformin and [barrbaroot],that they actually act by helping to deplete deuterium. That’s really what they work—that’s really what they do.

We actually discovered that one of the—not Lipitor, what’s the one from—Glivec. We published a paper two years ago about Glivec, the miracle CLL, miracle drug for chronic leukemia. We found out after they’ve been charging $10,000 per treatment that it was simply a combination of Lipitor and Metformin. They were busted. They simply both act—they have nothing to do with genetics. They have nothing to do with being able to make something on and off in your gene. They simply remove deuterium and work through the metabolism.

Dr. Pompa:
Obviously, there’s much safer ways to deplete this.

Dr. Collins:
Oh, yes. That is just that. What I was just saying, all these things that try to say is magic about these medicines, they’re not.

Dr. Pompa:
Right, I got your point, yeah. What about molecular hydrogen, these new molecular hydrogens?

Dr. Collins:
The molecular hydrogen is an interesting thing. It is what you put in. If you make these molecular hydrogens from the way they make it depending on—the ones we’ve tested don’t lower—they have the same amount of deuterium in it as tap water, the tablets do. They don’t lower anything, but there may be some out there that are better. The three or four we’ve measured, they all have measured anywhere from 145 to 153 parts per million of hydrogen, same as water.

Dr. Cooper:
Also, as a herbalist, I’ve always loved to used herbs. They’re natural, God-given green plants, but then I’ve had to really rethink about how these herbs are processed or where they were processed. If it was processed in a place with really high levels of deuterium in the water, I have to rethink it. Eventually, all of these companies as they learn about these, in order to keep in the game, in order to say they have really high-quality products, they need to get their products tested. This is the way it’s going to go.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s what I was just thinking. We test every herb, everything for heavy metals which is a toxin, but deuterium not being a toxin, we need to test for it just because we—again, there’s levels that can—

Dr. Cooper:
The impact it can have.

Dr. Collins:
We actually do this for a lot of different people including the FDA. Right now, the FDA and the toxicology department there is actually using deuterium depletion as one of the factors for their safety studies. That study is going on right now that we’re helping with. We’re hopeful that what they’re trying to get to is say if this allows your deuterium to go up and hurt your metabolic pathway, that drug can’t go from—they can’t pass a Phase One safety study. We’re hopeful that ends up happening, that they test the deuterium.

Dr. Pompa:
You think this will hit the mainstream to the point where—

Dr. Collins:
I do, five years, no doubt about it. Because this is [00:54:46] on—scientists and medicine, all they want is science, is can you prove it? Yes, we can. More importantly, our cancer patients are getting such better clinical outcomes doing this with standard of care, doesn’t make a difference. Their results are so much better. We’re getting anywhere from eight to ten years of their main—of extra life on Stage Four patients. It’s changing cancer already. Already, it’s changing big time.

As I said, we’ve already had two clinical trials on cancer in Europe. We’re going to have one here for cancer for both glioblastoma and chronic lymphocytic leukemia. We’re very excited. We think once you handle cancer and the things we’re understanding about sleep and depression and all these things that are coming out of our studies, it’s going to affect everything because it makes it work better; it makes insurance cheaper because you can keep people well. That’s really what we need to do in this country.

Dr. Cooper:
Dr. Que has actually encouraged a lot of our cancer patients here the second time around. They’ve already been through the center of care and they’re concerned. He’s encouraged them, yes, you’re going to go through this again. You’re going to do all this.

We’re just going to make you a much stronger, robust person so that you can get through this without all the—and we have many people call me and tell me, Anne, it’s my second time. I have no chemo brain. I have no fatigue. I’m at work. People tell me I look great. It’s nice news for people who are so concerned, or worried, or just I don’t want to ever go through this again that they can through everything at it and come out with a much better outcome without feeling miserable.

Dr. Pompa:
Wow, so—

Dr. Cooper:
I just love it because they have patience with all this.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, what did I miss, Ash? This is such an amazing topic?

Ashley:
Yeah, it really is. I really think you hit it all. I was going to ask about children and if you thought that they should be tested and you answered that. Do you feel like a whole family should be tested or maybe start with the parents, or start with the children?

Dr. Collins:
Yeah, when we look at it—we tested entire families. Again, it’s so interesting. While your spouses are different—are the same, your children are completely different than you are. They hold on to this stuff. They use it for a reason. No matter what, they use it.

We really try to say when we think—we know there’s a lot more chronic illnesses in younger children. Ten years ago, I would have said no, but now, you’ve got to be even upfront and proactive with younger children because they’re being destroyed; they really are. Just such simple fixes and that’s what’s so amazing. There’s such simple fixes.

Dr. Pompa:
Would there be different levels for testing kids because they need—they use more?

Dr. Collins:
When you look at that test, we still try to get them below 4130, but we don’t try to drop them into the 118 and 116 to 112 level. We keep them below 130. It’s amazing; they lose weight. Most parents love this because they become easily—their discipline gets better. They’re not moody teenagers.

Dr. Cooper:
They do better in school with cognition and focus and things.

Dr. Collins:
Yeah, so it’s great.

Ashley:
That’s nice.

Dr. Pompa:
Fascinating topic. I think I heard this word a year ago. I know you’ve been in it for longer than that, but just to show you though, how—and I’m hearing more and more of it, but still, we need to get the word out about something—

Dr. Cooper:
Thank you for sharing it.

Dr. Collins:
I appreciate it because it’s you guys that are leaders in this that are going to help people understand. That’s all we’re here for.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I want to do a Part Two. I want to remeasure. I want to look at my water. We’ll take it to another level. Ashley will get her’s done. Let’s look at how—

Dr. Cooper:
Have all your clients send in their questions what they feel they—as they feel they want to.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, great.

Ashley:
Yeah, definitely.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, exactly. I think we’ll get a lot of questions. Share this show, folks, as best you can. People need to know this information. Ask some questions and Ashley will forward them onto you all.

Because again, I want everyone to know everything. There’s so much here. It’s such a new topic, but such an important topic. Thank you for bringing this information. Thank you for offering the tests at a discount for our viewers and listeners. Let’s keep getting the word out.

Dr. Collins:
Thank you guys very much. You guys keep being the warriors that you are. We appreciate it.

Dr. Cooper:
Great questions, thank you.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, awesome. No, I loved it. Thank you.

Ashley:
Thank you, bye

Dr. Collins:
Bye-bye.

Dr. Cooper:
Thank you.

Ashley:
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