337: How To Release Trapped Emotions

Today I welcome energy medicine practitioner, Bobbi Vogel, who is here to expose the truth about emotional wounds which are trapped and can turn into physical illness. When turning pain into purpose, it’s important to address the emotional as well as the physical parts of our body, and I’m excited for you to hear how Bobbi addresses this.

More about Bobbi Vogel:

Bobbi is a Medical Intuitive, Psychic Medium and Energy Medicine Practitioner who is redefining faith + healing + life + purpose. Read Bobbi's story here.

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Transcript:

Dr. Pompa:

Trapped emotions, you’ve heard me talk a lot about the fact that physical, chemical, and emotional stress, the body doesn’t know the difference. It can be the very thing that turns on a gene, which I call perfect storm. Typically, it’s not just one of these stressors. We need to identify all. This guest helps us do that with a very unique—I boil it down to two things that we can do in this area. I always say I’m not the expert in this area, but this one is. Wait ‘til you hear her story. Let’s take a deeper dive into our trapped emotions. Check it out.

 

Ashley:

Hello, everyone. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m Ashley Smith, and today we welcome energy medicine practitioner Bobbi Vogel who is here to expose the truth about emotional wounds which are trapped within the body and can turn into physical illness. When healing the body, it’s important to address the emotional as well as the physical parts that are wounded. I’m excited to hear how Bobbi addresses this, so let’s get started and welcome Bobbi Vogel and, of course, Dr. Pompa to the show. Welcome, both of you.

 

Bobbi:

Thank you.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, no, so Errin Smith, one of my favorite people in the world, says, “You have to interview Bobbi. You have to interview Bobbi.” She was one of my best interviews for the summit that Errin did.

 

Bobbi:

She’s amazing.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. Look, I say this all the time. Physical, chemical, or emotional traumas can cause an epigenetic trigger, turn on a gene, and now we’re expressing  a thyroid condition, an autoimmune condition, weight loss resistance, hormone problems. It is this perfect storm of stressors that creates that trigger. How do I know? It happened to me. I coach thousands of people and doctors, and this is how it happens. Problem is I have become an expert, started with my own battle, and then teaching doctors in the removing the chemical triggers that will epigenetically turn on genes. However, I will stay in my lane. I recognize that trapped emotions are also—fill the stress bucket, as I say. That stress bucket could be filled with physical traumas, chemical traumas, as I’m really good at removing, and these emotional traumas, trapped emotions.

 

Bobbi, let’s start here. How did you get so involved in this? I want to hear your story. Then we can move into how do emotions trap in the body? I get a chemical, Dr. Pompa. They come in. They store but emotions, really? We’re going to tackle that first. How did you get into this?

 

Bobbi:

I’ll bottom line my story. I moved from the Bay Area to Venice Beach, California about five years ago now, maybe five and a half, and I was the top-producing realtor in the Bay Area. I’d always wanted to live in Southern California near the beach. I started working with an investor who got into contract on five flips in Southern California. I was waiting for $225,000 worth of commissions, and she was all cash, dah, dah, dah. I thought what better time to go because I was recovering from painful divorce and things like that. I wanted to start over, and I also had adopted a little boy who’s now 18 from San Francisco County who because of his birth circumstances and things left him—and then neglect in foster care for those first 14 months left him with a lot of tough behaviors. He was in a high-care facility in Northern California, and I had him transferred to Southern California.

 

Within three weeks of me—three days of me moving, that woman canceled her contracts. The bottom fell out of that. My son and I kept struggling, struggling to revive my business where I was—everybody knew me in Oakland and Alameda, and nobody knew me in Southern California. My parents were both passed away, no family. Then the facility booted my son out just for—San Francisco refused to pay, and I was then left with a child who needed more than I was able to—I’m not trained and more than I could give. He had to be home a lot, and one thing led to another. I ended up losing everything in this short period of time. I got to a place where I wanted to leave. I was ready to wave the flag, leave the planet. I was terrified.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Been there myself.

 

Bobbi:

Yeah, and I literally had a plan. I had a sheriff sticker on the door for an eviction. I had to turn in my Mercedes-Benz in the [Ross] parking lot. I was having very little money to eat. Somebody led me to Agape, this nondenominational church. I don’t know if you’ve heard about it. I was literally 24 hours from following through with my plan to leave my physical body, and somebody said, “You got to go to Agape. Have you ever heard of it?” I said, “No.” I didn’t really care because of the space that I was in.

 

I was already crying to God, right? Every day at least I was like—somehow I knew enough to know to start crying my eyes out to God, even though I almost don’t even know where it came from, but I was stripped of everything but faith. That’s what started showing up. It’s like please help me. It almost makes me want to cry. It’s like what did I do? Am I this bad? I’m sorry.

 

Then I started hearing myself say what did I say I would do? What did I say I would heal? It’s not that I don’t want to do it. I just don’t know what it is. Help me! Please, help me. I’m sorry, but I’m reneging on my agreement. I’m going to check out. I would say these things out loud.

 

Then this woman shows up out of nowhere, the person I knew from Chicago 20 years prior, and asked me about Agape. I was like, “No, haven’t heard of it. Sounds like a good restaurant.” I thought it was a restaurant, and she said, “No.”

 

Dr. Pompa:

It does sound like a good restaurant.

 

Bobbi:

Yeah, I didn’t care, and I certainly couldn’t eat there at the time with no money. I went home, and we were on our last days in the apartment. I’d gone from a homeowner to living in an apartment. I woke up Sunday morning, and my plan was to leave Monday, leave the planet on Monday. I woke up, and I opened up my laptop. I for some reason googled Agape. I said to my son, “Get in the car. We’re going.” I literally threw on T-shirt, shorts, and I said, “I’m going.”

 

I had been asking, begging for guidance and help, and I went to Agape. My hair stands. We were late, so I sat in the back row. My son sat begrudgingly next to me, and within minutes, I found myself with my head in my hands with tears pouring down my face.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Do you remember the message that was spoken?

 

Bobbi:

I don’t remember the—I started crying because I was like oh—literally, oh, my God is speaking to me because it was my thoughts. It was my plan. It was things that I had said to myself literally that morning. It was where I felt I was in my life and had everything. I couldn’t even raise my head, and I was crying from gratitude and joy. I no longer was crying from fear. Because the love that I felt in that moment when I knew, okay, it’s—God just grabbed me by the back of my shirt and said she’s had enough. It’s like brings tears to my eyes because I will never forget that moment.

 

I walked out of there feeling more love than I’d ever felt in my life because I knew I wasn’t alone. I could never again say that I was alone and not divinely guided because I understood it so clearly, and I walked out of there for the first time in a long time with my head up. I didn’t know who Michael Beckwith was. I had no idea he was such a big deal. I walked out, and I saw him leaving. I said, “Michael.” His security people [00:10:27] because I just started walking towards him. I didn’t know. Why not? I said to him, “You saved my life today.” He just hugged me, and he walked away.

 

Even though things seemingly got worse for me—of course, I had to leave the apartment. I ended up living in garages, not being able—I still wasn’t scared. I still knew, and I still kept saying please just keep guiding me. Guide me. My son went to juvenile detention after—all kinds of things. I began to walk up and down Venice Beach with a journal every day and go sit and pray and meditate on the same lifeguard station and watched miracles—well, what you think is a miracle. It’s just what’s possible unfold.

 

Then I was led one thing—it’s a long story but one step at a time. I didn’t jump from that to being a healer. I had to stay in faith. That’s where I knew everything began with faith, which is why my mission is redefining faith, healing, life, and purpose. I walked the path. I know that having unwavering faith, that you’re divinely guided every second of every day leads you to healing. When you heal the emotional wounds, which we’ll talk about, when you start healing and you start teaching yourself how to love yourself because of—you can’t not do it when you feel the love of the Spirit, God, angels show up. I mean, it’s incredible. You start learning I’m worth loving.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Look, when you have that true understanding that God created you, created you with a purpose, it’s a lot easier to love yourself.

 

Bobbi:

Yeah, I’d like to speak to that too. The work that I do is along those lines, and so long story short, I got led to this way of connecting with my own gifts. I immediately knew, oh, wow, this is how you communicate with me.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, look, I believe everybody has those God-given gifts because He created us all. Whether you know Him or not, you still have those gifts. We both had an encounter where we knew Him, right? My life was easy growing up. I had a great life growing up, honestly, except for my dyslexia, which still created wounds, trapped emotions, by the way. I couldn’t read, and I labeled myself as a dumbass, so to speak, or at least somebody labeled me that, and I bought into it. Other than that, it was no problems in my life until about 1990. I had this great job and career. That ended.

 

Like you, I was at this crossroads. God saved my butt. Like you, I literally became saved at that moment, realized everything that you realized. Then here’s the thing: God walked me through a process, and then ten years later is when I got sick, around 1999, 2000, went through that, only years later to go through another. The point is this: we went through this horrible court battle when we took on the kids and horrible stuff. Each one of those were lessons, and each one got easier and easier to respond correctly. Okay, Lord, what do you want to teach me? Each one has made me who I needed to be to serve, ultimately, Him, ultimately to serve people, what He designed me for. I can’t boast of any of it because God walked me through it and like you.

 

Bobbi:

Right, completely. What I know in my work is the faith healing. Then why am I here, right? Once you start healing, as you said, you start caring about your life and being more invested in your life. When you’re invested in your life, you start asking why am I here, right? If I survived all these things, there must be a reason why I’m here. What is it? All you have to do is ask, right?

 

From what I understand—and so pain to purpose, right? When we look at—it’s the same thing with—I think we’re probably saying the same thing, but what I know in my work with Spirit and God is that we do—before we come in, we come in with wounds. The wounds are meant to teach us not—they’re not a way to hurt us. We actually want to heal these wounds because then we transcend. Our soul transcends. We vibrate by it.

 

Dr. Pompa:

What you’re saying is—the Bible talks about four generations. Sin is inherited four generations; traumas, four generations. I can bring the science, and then you can bring what you bring to get everyone to understand how these emotions are in fact trapped. They’re, literally, epigenetically. Again, chemical, I can speak from an expert. There was a Duke University study where they gave two identical twin mice so same DNA, boys and girls, brothers and sisters, two groups. They exposed one group to a toxin, and it triggered a gene called an agouti gene. They became overweight, thyroid issues, the whole thing. Their environments were the same, same DNA, brother and sisters separated; this group, fine. This group triggered the gene.

 

Here was the point I want to make. The next generation without being exposed to the trauma, this one was a chemical trauma, was born with the same health conditions, the inability to lose weight, the thyroid condition. That would’ve gone generationally. However, now they intervened. They gave certain things that can turn off that gene that was triggered, and therefore, the next generation wasn’t born doomed. The same thing happens—and I’ll let you bring the understanding to it. Same thing happened, could happen with emotions, trapped emotions and traumas. Go ahead.

 

Bobbi:

Yeah, the density, just like with—you’re bringing in science. This is science. There’s Kirlian photography where you can cut a leaf in half, and with this photography, you’ll still see the whole leaf because it’s an energy body. We are energy bodies.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Oh, by the way, to your point, if you get a leg chopped off, your brain still thinks the leg is there, and you have pain, if there was great pain. Anyways, go ahead.

 

Bobbi:

Yeah, the phantom, right. People call it the phantom leg because there’s not a clear—well, we’re becoming more clear on this. That’s why my practice is etheric. It’s the energy body. That is our physical body is a vehicle, right? These emotional wounds and toxins, whenever they come into our energy body first—and unless we start clearing and healing and taking care of ourselves in all the way that you’re talking about and we tend to those emotional wounds and we start—they start stagnating. Our energy starts stagnating. Then stagnation left uncleared turns to density, toxic density.

 

In my work, I am able—and then the toxic density in our energy body duplicates into our physical body if left unattended long enough, and then we have a Western medicine illness where we have pain and autoimmune. Every single person, every client I’ve had that has anxiety has autoimmune, some form of autoimmune.  It’s a firing of your electrical system like this. When you’re quivering like this, there’s no flow. It’s just that nobody believes that because they can’t see it, and we’re so used to needing the proof, the visual proof, that we don’t understand that it’s still happening in our body. All these emotional wounds and traumas are there to serve—to bring us to heal our emotional wounds.

 

Dr. Pompa:
I want to draw this because you said it so well. Okay, so here we have physical, chemical, and emotional stressors that come in and this affects us, right? Now, let me do it this way. Let me take the person out, and just make a single cell. This person is made up of 70 trillion of these, but in that cell is our DNA. These pressures, so to speak, all three, they will affect our cell. By the way, they actually vibrate. Even thoughts vibrate with these little receptors, and they change our DNA for better or for worse.

 

Now, that DNA gets affected, and it makes proteins. I’ll just write protein. Okay, proteins are our hormones. Proteins is our physical—we are all proteins. Then we become this person for better or for worse. My pen’s running out. Okay, that’s a person down there. The point is physical, chemical, emotional traumas affect our DNA, change our DNA, and then make certain different proteins and makes this person for better or for worse.

 

You and I because of these became a worst version of ourselves. Now, Bobbi, through your work and through my work, we have learned to change the DNA, change the proteins that we’re creating, and change this, and we become a new person. That’s what we’re talking about. There’s science to this craziness.

 

Bobbi:

Yes, there is totally science. I know people look at—think that this is all woo-woo because I do say I’m divinely guided. I am Spirit taught, right? All the things that I learned—I’m an ex-paramedic, so I do have a lot of idea about the physical body and illnesses and trauma and all these things. I know for a fact because Spirit has told me and taught me. I haven’t read it in any book. I am guided, and I can see. See, the toxins and the density for me, I can tune in, and I can see where the density resides in the body, energetic and physical. Sometimes our physical body’s knocked out. Our energy body is actually knocked off center from traumas.

 

When we go and we think—our first thing we think is let’s cut it out. Let’s go get surgery. Let me take a pill. Surgery, even though I—we need to work hand in hand, Western medicine, all of us. We all need something, and we are uniquely ourselves energetically and on a soul level. We need a different recipe all of us. If we cut it out, the density, what I call density illness out of the physical body, it does nothing to clear it from the energy body, so it’s still there.

 

Dr. Pompa:

It’s true.

 

Bobbi:

It’s left there, and it’s going to duplicate itself again. The whole point in our body letting us know, hey, I need something is its illness and pain is telling us we need to heal. We don’t need to medicate our pain or take another toxin that’s going to create a stressor on what’s already stressed. Our electrical system, I’ve also been—it’s crazy. One of the things that Spirit taught as I was working with an acupuncturist is all of a sudden in seeing—and I have a picture somewhere here. It’s funny you drew that stick picture. You’re going to laugh.

 

When I was first shown in the energy body meridians with this cancer, this lymph cancer patient, all of a sudden I heard sit down and tune in, so I did. I tuned in, and as the acupuncturist put in her needles, I could see blue balls lighting up. I didn’t study that. I didn’t ask to be given that gift. It’s what Spirit needed me to have and see and understand that we are—this is very important. That our electrical system and our energy body is also functioning right.

 

The analogy, though, that I was given is, if you’re going to buy a new house and the realtor turns on the lights—you walk in the house, and she turns on the lights and the lights are flickering. Wouldn’t you say we better get an electrician in here? Clearly, there’s something wrong with the wiring or something. I don’t know. I’m not an electrician, right? Let me go find somebody because we can see the physical manifestation of the problem. When it’s happening in our energy body, we can’t see it, so we ignore it.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, no, or we have a headache. We have brain fog, low energy. Okay, you could drink coffee. That’ll help for a moment. I mean, you could take a stimulant, whatever it is. There’s many. That’ll help for the moment. Headache, aspirin, Tylenol will help for the moment. You could take out a cancerous tumor. It’ll help for the moment.

 

Bobbi:

A moment.

 

Dr. Pompa:

There is something else upstream, and it could just be trapped emotions. You kind of explained it, how trapped emotions get trapped. I mean, they literally are said to be trapped in our DNA and into our cells, and it creates these densities as you see them and know that they’re there. Then dysfunction follows. I guess the next question is, if they’re trapped, what do we do?

 

Bobbi:

It all goes back—so first, we have to have faith. This is what I know, and it is that we come in with wounds that we agree upon. When we heal the wounds—I’ll say it again so it makes sense. When we heal those wounds—we understand in our highest level of consciousness when we’re before God and our guides that, when we heal the wounds, our soul transcends, our vibration changes. You talked about vibration. Our vibration changes, which changes the vibration all around us, which will change the vibration of the world, which is, obviously, what we’re in need of. We have to take on these wounds and a life purpose that we stand before God and are excited to serve the purpose. Go ahead.

 

Dr. Pompa:

No, I love what you’re saying. Let’s build on this. I’m trying to get—I’m always thinking of my viewer, trying to get them to understand. You were careful about your words when you said we agree upon these things that were given to us. Are they identities, meaning that—or we’re born with certain things that express themselves in identity.

 

Bobbi:

Let me explain. Yeah, so a good example, I use myself as an example. This is what I know because I watch it in my sessions, and I know it for myself. I’m adopted, for instance, so I have the wound of abandonment or I had. This is one of the things—and I chose a lot of wounds because I consider myself—I do now and I did then. I consider myself strong enough to overcome, and I was excited about it. This is before we’re in our human wounded brains, our human I forget. I have amnesia, but I’m brilliant and high vibrating. I’m working on behalf of God and loved and all these things.

 

On the other side, I decide, okay, I’m going to put abandonment in my basket. This is a cute analogy that I was given. One of the wounds I’m going to put there. Then I decide that, and another soul who’s not yet my birth mother says, in order to be in service to your soul and its transcendence—and this is all under the supervision of God and Spirit. In order to be in service to your soul, I will come in and abandon you so that the—because I can’t heal the wound of abandonment without it being created, right? I say thank you so much. What a service to me that you’d be willing to create your own pain on my behalf because you’re giving a child up.

 

Then my guides because we are assigned guides to come and be with us—of course, God’s always overseeing everything, but we have our unique to us guides who commit and hold all the information for us. All our wounds, all our agreements, all our trauma, our life purpose, the tools that we need in order to serve that life purpose, we have it all. They say, hey, you’re going to forget who you are when you get in there, in your human body and your brain, and you’re going to forget that you wanted to take on a lot of these wounds in order for your soul to transcend. I mean, you have so much faith in yourself now as we do, but you’re going to forget that. We’re here to remind you when it’s time to remind you. We’re going to start waking you up. Now, whether that’s going to be through physical illness, divorce, whatever it – whatever pain it needs to be created in order to start waking us up is what’s going to happen, and it’s not to punish us. This is not to punish us. This is in service to us because we asked them.

 

Dr. Pompa:

It’s survival. Look, God created us with an innate intelligence. That means a body that’s smart. To survive, it will say, hey, your toe hurts. Your toe hurts. Your toe hurts. Look at your toe. You look at your toe, and there’s a splinter in it. You pull out the splinter, and you go, oh, thank God I had that, or you lean on the stove. You burn yourself as a child. The protection mechanism says don’t do that anymore, and you don’t.

 

The point is is pain is part of a protection. It’s part of survival. It’s a part of making us better. The kid doesn’t lean on the stove anymore, right? It makes us better. There’s a learning in every pain. That’s what I said. As I entered into a new hardship, then I start asking myself a different—okay, God, what do you want to show me?

 

One of the things that we both hit on this is that we are given these things that we can buy into or not. Yes, adopted child can have abandonment issues, and people give us that. You’re a child. Oh, you don’t have parents? Oh, you’re an orphan? I have two adopted kids, right? Those things were always—those were spoken to those kids, and of course, the human brain is attaching identities. Then later in life we have to realize that wait a minute. I have to perceive myself the way God perceives me. God doesn’t perceive you as abandoned or as an orphan. No, He perceives you with the gifts that He created you with.

 

Bobbi, this is what I learned in my life. The moment I perceived myself the way God does, that’s when I’m able to transform more lives. That’s when I’m able to go to a higher level of consciousness of who am I, who He’s created me to be and, therefore, effectiveness. Happier because we’re functioning in the gift God gave us. Unfortunately, we have to go through our life and look at these identities that are given to us often times by people who love us, our parents, teachers perhaps. It’s unknowing.

 

Bobbi:

Yeah, sorry, but this popped in. Ultimately, those are emotional wounds.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, exactly.

 

Bobbi:

They’re being created for a reason. Knowing that we buy in to other people’s opinions of us, or labels of us, or any of those things, that’s when you’re out of faith, see? That goes back to knowing. When I knew and I said what did I sign up for? Why am I here? I had a pretty hard childhood and then made it through some other—all the things that I described. I was just like, okay, why am I here? I want to be in service. Every day I say and when I do my breathing exercise, which we’ll talk about because this is a very—this is a pertinent thing to be doing. I say who can I help, and how can help them? Show me.

 

Dr. Pompa:

You’re making a choice.

 

Bobbi:

I’m in service to God. That’s all I care about. I know that God wants people to heal so that they can also know who they are at core.

 

Dr. Pompa:

That’s the key. See, that’s what I’m talking about, identity. The moment you perceive yourself the way God perceives you through the gifts with the purpose you’re called to, the moment you transform and reframing. Okay, look at your childhood. Look at mine, great parents, great sisters, great family, no real traumas, dyslexia, labeled dumbass, couldn’t read ‘til seventh grade.

 

Bobbi:

Retard probably.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, whatever it was, rode the short—okay, developed patterns to deal with it and not good ones. Those patterns as an adult became more destructive. This is one trauma. The point I’m making, there’s people watching this who had sexual abuse, this, that, so my point is we all have them. Here’s the thing; we can attach these identities, or we can use these things to realize—I know this now. My dyslexia was the greatest gift ever. Unfortunately, it took me to an adult later on to realize that. It made me who I am today. Matter of fact, I can memorize things because of what I adapted to that, and I needed that to read literature to do…

 

Bobbi:

That’s a gift.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, you are abandonment. Look, you wouldn’t even be here if it wasn’t for those traumas. I think we have to reframe our perspective and, again, the identities, the traumas, the things we’ve had and realize we all needed it. Maybe Jim needed more than me or less. I don’t know, but we all have them. All of these things, yes, they lead to identity, but it’s still up to us to recreate the identity. God allowed them for a reason so we can be of service.

 

Bobbi:

Right. That’s perfect. The next problem we get into then is that many people prefer to stay in victimization.

 

Dr. Pompa:

That’s right. It’s survival.

 

Bobbi:

I’m just speaking to my work and what I know. What I find with people who cling to their wounds and they cling to the identity that they’ve created for themselves around their wounds, when I get in session with them, Spirit, it’s like they want to—no, but you don’t understand what I’ve been through. You don’t understand. It’s like they want to convince me to look at them as though they’re powerless, and you’ll never get me to get onboard with telling anyone, no matter who they are, that they’re powerless. Turn the pain into power.

 

Dr. Pompa:

That’s right.

 

Bobbi:

Victimization is a low vibration, and it’s not serving anyone to constantly relive and stay in the woundedness. It’s like it hasn’t taken you down. Don’t let it. Start taking power from it.

 

Dr. Pompa:

People do things to just survive in that moment, whether it’s cocaine, alcohol. No, they’re not serving you long term, right? It’s just like this, oh, I have to deal, and so people get in that mode that you just described. Okay, I’m protecting myself. You think you are, but you‘re actually creating a life of destruction. What you’re saying is, if you can get them to wake up to the fact that you’re not powerless because you put yourself in a powerless position of some weird protection mode, that the moment you can break them out of that, the moment they break free. Am I saying that correctly?

 

Bobbi:

Yes, which is why my whole—I don’t know if you want to call it a platform, whatever it is, but my whole path is faith—again, faith, healing. You can’t go anywhere on the game board. That’s the analogy I was just shown. You can’t go anywhere on it without starting at faith. No matter who you are, if you’re in a body on the planet, you’re powerful. You’re under the watch of and guidance of Spirit, God, and you’re here on a mission. There isn’t one of us that isn’t. You’re mission is not to be victimized for the rest of your life about these painful experiences. That’s not said without compassion, but you can’t stay there, right?

 

Dr. Pompa:

No, you can’t.

 

Bobbi:         

They were created to empower you to heal. If you don’t heal yourself via faith and being led through your healing and knowing that you are being divinely guided and led, then you won’t ever get to experience faith in that way.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Look, God created us all with a purpose. Rick Warren wrote the #1 selling book. It was Purpose Driven Life. We all have a purpose. We were created by God with it. It’s really a matter of having that faith that God in fact created you, and He has a plan for your life. My faith is in Jesus and what He’s done for me and my sinful nature.

 

This is a great story, and there’s a great book that transformed me in this area called when David Perceived He Was King. The story of David, first of all, he was a sinner, and God looked at him as a man after His own heart, but David struggled. You have to understand he was the son of Jesse, and he was the eighth child, the youngest. He was a bastardized child. When Samuel came to anoint the next king of Israel, of course Jesse brought out his oldest son, not him; his next, not him, not him, not him. He said I don’t have anymore. Oh, wait, maybe David. See, he didn’t even look at David as his own son. David had an identity: abandonment, I mean, all of it, and David was anointed.

 

Now, David didn’t just become this king of Israel. Oh, no, he struggled in those identities throughout his life and career. He made shambles of being the king of Israel, and he made shambles of Israel and itself and his life and more sinful issues. When David perceived finally who he was, who God created him to be, no different than us, not only did David’s life change, but David changed the nation of Israel. Beyond that, David changed the earth. Through David’s lineage, God knew exactly what He was doing, came Jesus, came the Savior, came us. I mean, just David—but David had to perceive what he was called to just like we do. No different than David. The moment we perceive what God has done for us, created in us, boom, our lives change.

 

Bobbi:
Yeah, I mean, so the whole story you just told is that he had to believe all those negative things about himself until he—because he was being brought to purpose.

 

Dr. Pompa:

That’s right.

 

Bobbi:

If we come in and we are told—we get here and our human brains are like, hey, don’t worry about any of this stuff that’s going on. It’s all just going to lead you to your thing, so blow it off. We wouldn’t be who we are. There wouldn’t be faith.

 

Dr. Pompa:

That’s it.

 

Bobbi:

There wouldn’t be anything. All of the things that happen, whether we’re perceived as sinners, or this, or all the other things and the pain that we have and the pain that we’ve created and if that means something and oh, my God, all the things, what I’m trying to help people understand is that, even if you’ve experienced all those things, there’s a reason. Start asking God for—what is the reason? I know every single painful thing along with the good thing but painful things, experience that I’ve ever had in my life are one of my tools today.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Me too. I couldn’t be who I am today.

 

Bobbi:

No, and without having gone through all of it, I wouldn’t be standing where I am.

 

Dr. Pompa:

I wouldn’t be here either. Again, we’ve chosen to look at our adversities, our challenges, and we’ve realized that it’s the very things we needed to be here. Those listening, look at your challenges, your current circumstances, your past. One of the things, Bobbi, I love to do is make people go through a timeline and look back at different ages. When were identities given to you? When were things happened? I tell you the areas to dig in are when you overreact to certain things. Where’s the root? Why do you overreact? What emotion are you…

 

Bobbi:

The wound.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, then we have to look back at those things and those traumas and identities, and then we can bring them to our conscious mind. Then we can consciously choose and realize I needed that. I mean, whether it’s this, that…

 

Bobbi:

Thank you.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Again, I know we can all say, yeah, what? You’re saying Dr. Pompa that I needed to be physically raped? Look, not my battle, right?

 

Bobbi:

I get the same pushback.

 

Dr. Pompa:

What I’m saying is you have a choice to become stronger from that or weaker. My point is make the conscious decision to become stronger. By the way, I’ll say this; just maybe you have a bigger heart because of it. Just maybe is now the—now you can identify with other people’s traumas because of that. Just maybe that you just are a more effective person because you just have a deeper love because—I think you get my point, right? I don’t wish that upon anybody.

 

Bobbi:

No, it is something to—it is a truth. Number one, I should say, in my work, most women that have some sexual abuse, a rape and the things you’re talking about, they end up with UTIs, uterus cancer, inability to conceive children without any explanation why. Because it’s a density, the wound is trapped. The density of that wound has now come into the—from the energetic to the physical. I’ve had this experience with clients. This woman came, and there was no explanation. She was a healthy 34-year-old, and they were trying, trying, trying, trying.

 

One of the gifts the Spirit has given me is to be able to just—I just ask Spirit. What’s going on here? I don’t need to guess anything. I ask and I’m shown. I’m told. I’m guided. I ask a few—but then I can see. All of a sudden, oh, did you have some miscarriages, (sure enough)? Did you have two, whatever? I’m guided through this thing.

 

Then, sure enough, she had made a couple choices as a younger woman as well and all the energy of the miscarriages and then an abortion that was trapped in there. That was removed. She’s about to have her second child.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, see, remove the interference.

 

Bobbi:

No kidding! This is the profound truth. We aren’t being punished for anything. We need to be responsible for our own journey here and our own—this healing and this health and wellness is becoming all the rage. It does worry me a little bit. What I know is we already come in with our purpose and the gifts that we need. They’ll be unveiled as we need them, and you can think of it as a tool bag or whatever. It concerns me that there’s a lot of people out in this space now because it’s popular that are trying to do this work without the guidance of God. Because, number one, I have so much respect for that guidance, I have a real deep concern for people’s healing and that pain can actually be created, or we can injure someone with our own desire to be a healer, even if it’s not our life path.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, so true. Look, we’re at the top of the show. I want to bring something right to it. Look, have faith that God created you with a purpose. It does start with faith. Number two, the other thing I heard you say was take the trapped in traumas that we’ve had in our life, and instead of being powerless, empower them by knowing that it’s exactly what we needed to serve and the very purpose that God has for us.

 

Bobbi, thank you, and we’ll put your website here. You can give it now, but we’ll put that up here. Thank you for being on CellTV.

 

Bobbi:

Thank you so much.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah, appreciate it.

 

Bobbi:

Appreciate it. Good to meet you.

 

Dr. Pompa:

Mm-hmm, likewise.

 

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