My guest this week is Barton Scott, a chemical engineer and nutritionist who is the founder of Upgraded Formulas.
Barton is here to discuss the patterns and relationships between how you feel and your mineral balance. It’s more important than you think when addressing root cause. You will learn about the relationships between how you feel and your mineral balance, why minerals and other elements are a larger part of a health solution than vitamins, and why this is so important to understand.
More about Barton Scott:
Barton Scott is a Chemical Engineer, Nutritionist and the Founder of Upgraded Formulas– A nanotech company focused around performance and longevity–specifically with a focus on correcting mineral deficiency with a new category of supplementation to increase health span, focus, blood sugar management, and sleep quality. Upgraded Formulas is incredibly inspired by the work charity:water does and supports them in the great work they do with a portion of every sale. Charity water, it is a non-profit organization that provides drinking water via new water wells to people in developing nations.
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Dr. Pompa:
While everybody is concerned about vitamin deficiencies, mineral deficiencies far more causative and preventive for disease than vitamins; a matter of fact, vitamins don’t even work without minerals. We’re going to talk about specific mineral deficiencies and how that lines up with certain conditions: memory, sleep, thyroid, adrenals, and what’s the most accurate way to actually test for mineral deficiencies. Check out this episode.
Ashley Smith:
Hello, everyone. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m Ashley Smith. Our guest today is Barton Scott. Barton is a chemical engineer, nutritionist, and he’s the founder of Upgraded Formulas, a nanotech company focused around performance and longevity, specifically with a focus on correcting mineral deficiencies.
Barton is here to discuss the patterns and relationships between how you feel and your mineral balance. It’s more important than you think when addressing root cause. I cannot wait to learn more, so let’s get started and welcome Barton Scott, and of course, Dr. Pompa to the show. Welcome both of you.
Barton Scott:
Thank you so much, Ashley.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, well, I appreciate you being on the show. This is a very important topic. A lot of talk always about vitamins: vitamins, vitamins, vitamins. I’ve always been a believer that minerals are actually what start the fire. They’re more important than vitamins, and yet, when do we talk about vitamin—or when do we talk about minerals. It’s always vitamins.
Even I am victim of that. I just did a video recently of the five big deficiencies of vitamins. Some of them were minerals, actually, but we’re rarely talking about mineral deficiencies. That’s part of this show that I think is going to be very helpful to people.
What minerals are for sleep? What minerals are best for adrenals, thyroid, immunity, which is hot right now, anxiety? There’s specific minerals that we can be deficient in to drive those symptoms, but also help mitigate a lot of those symptoms. Let’s jump right in.
I want to hear your story, man, because you were sick like me. When I was sick, I did a hair analysis, which we’ll talk about, which I believe is the best way to look at mineral content. I had massive deficiencies and overloaded in other minerals. We’ll talk about that because obviously a lot of people have mineral deficiencies period. Tell your story, Barton.
Barton Scott:
Oh my God, well, thank you for that intro and everything. For me, it started in my early 20s. I was finishing up chemical engineering. I just started to lose my memory, my short-term memory; long-term was fine, but it just—it was like evaporating.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I’ve been there. I know what that feels like.
Barton Scott:
Yeah, you’ve been there. You just go, what the hell? I’m lucky enough to eat—to be able to pay for and eat really good food like organic everything. Even ten years ago, I cut out toxic triggers like gluten, dairy, soy. I’m thinking, I know I’m eating a better diet. What is going on?
Oddly enough, I also do a hair analysis at this point among about $10,000 of other testing, all in a pretty tight period of less than a year. I look at a couple of different labs. I’m looking, is this usable data? I finally found something that really—and it correlated across a couple of different labs.
I was chronically deficient in a couple of minerals that I had taken large amounts of from quality brands. I felt like I could really trust that it wasn’t a quality issue. In other words, what I mean for people listening is, I knew that if it said 400 milligrams, it would contain 400 milligrams. It was sourced well. Luckily, fast forward to 2020, I feel like that’s a pretty low bar, a pretty set bar in most cases.
Quality is just a given, but as a chemical engineer, the thing that we get trained in addition to having basically a minor in chemistry, a minor in math, and almost a minor in physics is that we have a major discipline in chemical engineering. That’s really around the thermodynamics of and the physics of absorption as it relates to actual—not theory. That’s part of what we learn, but we do a lot of actual hands-on stuff you can’t do outside of school really in processes, and building processes, and making—really, what chemEs get paid for is you go to a company that’s doing billions of dollars a year. They’re like we want to increase by 3%. You’re like, okay, got it. That’s your entire job is increasing efficiencies.
I had this lens that otherwise seems alien. I started thinking, well, this is—my first thought is like, even though my brain’s barely working it seems like, I’m like this is an absorption issue. This is not just me. I had been an athlete; I had been a wrestler. I was sweating since I was eight or nine all the way through high school: two a days, and just not eating that much, and watching what you’re actually taking in. I was nutrient deficient. I had induced hyperthyroidism, all sorts of issues just like you, Dr. Pompa.
We’re all here because we struggle along the way. Then we didn’t give up. We were like, oh, I’m not going to accept this, especially early. If this had happened to me in my 70s, or 80s, or 90s, I might have been like, oh, well, this is just getting old, but I knew, all right, I have big plans for life. There’s a lot I want to do here and a lot of people I want to help in some way. I didn’t know how at that point.
I remember thinking, this is—I’m not well enough to solve it now, but I think I know where to start. That’s taking a process and improving upon it. That just became the beginning of the journey. Here we are about eight years later.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no doubt. Just like anything else, pain to purpose. You’ve dedicated your life to making better minerals and really putting together an incredible process in a company. I have to say here’s some of my favorites right here, this magnesium and the iodine. I love both of the products. Let’s talk about—
Barton Scott:
Those are two of my favorites as well.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, exactly.
Barton Scott:
I’m most proud of them. I have them right here, too.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I know, right. I just ran back and grabbed them right off my counter.
Barton Scott:
It’s so cool. Iodine, real quick for anyone listening, has been shown—not just our iodine, but iodine in general, has been shown to be antiviral, which means if you put it in a petri dish with viruses, they cease to replicate. Granted, I think most—I think the RDA for iodine is just stupendously low at 150 micrograms. Japan eats about 12 milligrams per day. It’s just a huge increase there. It’s linked to intelligence, too.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s right.
Barton Scott:
It’s really key. We can get into that more later.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I do; it is. By the way, iodine is—we might as well go in that direction. It’s one of the things in the soils that is very depleted. Of course, they used to put it in bread.
Barton Scott:
What was it in, again?
Dr. Pompa:
Then it was salt, the salt in the bread. Anyways, adding it to the salt was a big deal. Bromine was added to the breads and the salts, too. Anyway, the bottom line is that it’s deficient in the soils.
It plays a significant role in the brain development in a child. Studies show a link to IQ, which is huge, solid studies. When I talk about the five big deficiencies that I mentioned earlier, iodine is one of them; so is magnesium, by the way. These two make up what I feel most Americans are, in fact, deficient in.
Let’s have the iodine conversation for thyroid. I know if I asked you, what are the minerals related to thyroid, you would talk about iodine. There’s a lot of controversy around iodine and the thyroid because some believe that autoimmune thyroid, Hashimoto’s, shouldn’t take iodine, but I’m here to say that, my doctors as well, we couldn’t help people get over Hashimoto’s or their body correct Hashimoto’s without iodine.
You just have to start slow and low. You can’t battle these thyroid conditions, even Hashimoto’s, without it. What is your take?
Barton Scott:
A hundred percent, so thankful that you said that. It’s one of the things that I’m glad we went straight to that really upsets me when I hear people—it’s chemistry, guys; it’s not an opinion. The mineral that’s most important—there’s many, but the mineral that’s the most important for your thyroid is iodine. How are we going to argue that we want to continue producing thyroid hormone without having a key constituent for the process?
It’s like if you’re running a paper mill and you’re not putting any inputs into the system or you’re drastically reducing those inputs. You have many five inputs. You’re like, oh, well, we’re just going to completely shut down Number Four over here or Number One.
Is the end product going to be the same? Is the thyroid going to then cease to really output—these are building blocks for thyroid hormone, just essential for the body. A lot of people are walking around with poor metabolisms, cold hands, cold feet, low body temp, all those things.
Dr. Pompa:
Hair thinning, which is very important, yeah.
Barton Scott:
Hair thinning.
Dr. Pompa:
Women, when we talk about thinning hair, yes, hair falls out, but even the texture of the hair. Literally, iodine plays a very important role there. There’s different theories for why iodine, don’t take iodine for Hashimoto’s or autoimmune thyroid because people can get what’s called a thyroid storm. That is correct if you take a lot at once if you have Hashimoto’s.
There’s different theories for that. It can be a detox theory where it chases off a lot of different types of chemicals, including [00:11:57] off the sites. There’s other theories. The bottom line is my experience has been the opposite. You can’t help that condition without iodine. You just have to start with drops.
That’s why I love your product here because it’s done with a liquid where you can start low and slow and work up to these molecular doses that you need literally to fix your thyroid. Again, that’s not my opinion; I believe it’s solid in the literature. What other minerals to the thyroid would you suggest?
Barton Scott:
I really like selenium is well.
Dr. Pompa:
That would have been mine; I just wanted to see what you said.
Barton Scott:
Yeah, I created a product I’m really proud of called Peak Thyroid, P-E-A-K. I have it over there at the counter. I could grab it later.
It’s a balanced ratio. Even it has a little bit of iodine in it. I created that for people that—for anyone. It just has a small amount of iodine. That way, if you had Hashimoto’s or something, you could still take one dose a day and get that because I’m really of the belief from everything I’ve read, and experienced, and talked with other people that you need some of it.
We have a blend of minerals there. It’s 50% zinc. We have a good amount of cooper because we find when you’re zincing [00:13:36].
Dr. Pompa:
Lost your sound. You hit your mute button by accident. Yeah, you hit your own mute button somehow; I don’t know how that happened.
Barton Scott:
Yeah, there we go.
Dr. Pompa:
What you were saying is when your copper and zinc, those two work together, then it affects the absorption and it affects the other minerals in the thyroid.
Barton Scott:
Exactly, really, it’s a blend of the four most key minerals. You showed Upgraded Magnesium there. That’s also important. Manganese is also important.
Those four I feel are—they can be very synergistic. Then from a chemical perspective, they play well together. That’s the other thing is that we—I just put things together that actually do from a chemical basis work together. Not everything does.
People that take a multivitamin that has iron in it, I really don’t agree with that. There’s a number of examples. At least some things are synergistic. Just like taking large doses of things for immune support, I know that’s something else we could—I’m very familiar with the research. I used to take large doses of vitamin C; I don’t anymore because I understand that one mineral and one vitamin affects all the rest.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, it’s true. To your iron point, a lot of people have high ferritin, which is very oxidative. Taking more iron can be more oxidative. We know it’s linked to strokes, other conditions. Then vitamin C can also actually—high dose C can actually upregulate more iron; not just in a condition called hemochromatosis, but in just average people as well. You have to be a little careful.
Barton Scott:
Absolutely; one thing that if—to touch on what you just said about iron, there’s so many people that exhibit symptoms of anemia that doctor’s say, well, you take iron, or nutritionists. A number of people make this mistake. It’s part of the reason why the test for minerals because you get to see them at least all at once. Whatever the measuring device was, you see them all on the same board.
When you take too much iron, what happens there? It can induce early aging, premature aging, which we all care about. We all want to feel younger. Looking younger is great but feeling younger is great.
The cells just won’t work. You start to push out copper when you take too much iron. Then symptoms get even worse.
Same thing with vitamin C. If you take too much vitamin C, you’ll start to absorb iron even better. Then what happens? You push out copper, so same problem. Then you start to dysregulate copper and zinc.
Dr. Pompa:
Yep, absolutely. There’s a relationship there. We’ll talk about the testing in a moment, but let’s rip through some of these main things here. Adrenals, what type of mineral deficiencies do we associate?
Barton Scott:
What I tell people is the currency that your adrenals spend in—these are little glands that sit on top of your kidneys. They’re really small, but they’re really important. They spend in a currency of magnesium, potassium, and sodium primarily. Without the right balance, not only just enough but the right balance—
Dr. Pompa:
You have a great potassium product by the way that many of our keto people absolutely love, too.
Barton Scott:
Oh, thank you. Yeah, Upgraded Potassium, I just made that—I made it very concentrated, so we’ll come out with a larger size soon because people are asking for it. I add it to my water all the time. If I’m going to the gym, I’ll put in some sea salt and I’ll put in some of that. It’s just good because I’ll do RO water. I just want to bring it back to life with some minerals. Yeah, thank you for that.
Yeah, Upgraded Potassium is awesome for adrenal support, Upgraded Magnesium. You can take our products out of the capsule if you have cramps. I’ve seen it really stop cramps quickly in a number of people right there in person. You don’t have to digest it, so it really works quickly. It’s amazing.
Yeah, sodium is important, too. A lot of people, if they’re doing keto, they’re just burning through these three, these big three, so quickly. You might be saving money on food, but you need to reinvest it into these minerals that are really providing electricity for your body.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, sodium, potassium, the basics of how your cell works. Your adrenals can really burn them down. When you move into keto, you’re dumping glycogen, which is stored sugar. Very normal, but you’re excreting a lot of these electrolytes and minerals. Taking them is really important.
Barton Scott:
I’ve got to say too on that, thank you for writing the book that you did because I did a five-day fast for the first time this year actually. I’d never done five days. By the end of the fifth day, I felt like I’d never been smarter.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s true.
Barton Scott:
It was interesting, yeah.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it is true. The ketones go so high. Your brain has so much extra energy that it just taps in.
Barton Scott:
I literally did what I felt like was two weeks of work in about two hours.
Dr. Pompa:
I couldn’t agree more. What about sleep? People ask me all the time, are there any minerals specific that help sleep?
Barton Scott:
Absolutely, yeah, understanding that about 80% of people are magnesium deficient. Magnesium is a component for melatonin, a really key one. It’s that paper mill analogy we talked about. You can’t really make enough melatonin if you don’t have enough of the constituents. That’s a great one. That’s a really important one.
Dr. Pompa:
Magnesium is one I always recommend. Calcium has been used for improved sleep for many years.
Barton Scott:
Yeah, absolutely. Calcium is up there, too. Calcium is sedative as well.
There’s a product right now—we’ll probably rename it soon just so more people realize that it could benefit them. Currently, it’s called Upgraded Bone Strong. It has calcium, it has magnesium, and it has boron. Boron is also synonymous with intelligence; it’s good for testosterone production as well.
It’s a really cool one. You just need small amounts of it. It’s really hard to test for, but you do need it. Because one thing I will say is taking calcium by itself is just something that people listening, you really want to be careful with that.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I agree. Yeah, totally, which by the way, was so enraged through the 80s, 90s. It was like everyone; it was like every calcium product.
Back then, I didn’t know what I know now, but I had a philosophy. I’m like, that can’t be good. That’s going to build up in your bones and your arteries potentially. Again, these are just my thoughts. As it turned out, it turned out to be right.
You can’t absorb calcium without sufficient vitamin D levels, magnesium levels. K2 has a lot has a lot to do with the absorption, which actually brings up a point. We’re talking about deficiencies. We’re talking about so many people have mineral deficiencies.
Obviously, sunscreen plays a role here, people lacking vitamin D. Obviously, glyphosate, the chemical sprayed on all of our food plays a role here depleting soils dramatically and my stress levels. Am I missing anything? I just want people to understand why mineral deficiencies are so prevalent.
Barton Scott:
A hundred percent all of those things. When we were red-lining at our desk, it’s something I’ve realized. We get hyped on too much caffeine; we don’t move enough; our cortisol ramps up quickly; we carry trauma. All of these cause a faster mineral depletion.
Topsoil eroding from that’s something like 18 inches on average to 3 or so in the last 50 or 100 years has not helped. Even though we are eating and making efforts to do more regenerative agriculture, we need to do it faster and we need to do more of it. I try to not only do organic, but I try to support those, which there are more and more of those farms that are doing different biodynamic and regenerative methods.
That’s a long-term solution to what we need right now. The short-term solution is making it easier for your body to accept electrons from the food that it gets. That’s what we’re doing with minerals.
Our whole line for anyone listening is minerals because as I started to lose—or well, later on, as I’m studying, losing memory, and I lose someone really close to me, I lose a parent, I lose my mother to degenerative diseases, I start to think about longevity. I was born to older parents. We knew that things like that would happen, but I also knew that for someone that could afford modern healthcare, that was retired, that was living a pretty low stress life, that was doing pretty well from a diet perspective, but was not getting better because was not—a diet after a certain point doesn’t make much of a difference. I know that’s a controversial thing to say, but it absolutely doesn’t if you have severe deficiencies.
Dr. Pompa:
My saying, by the way, is a perfect diet today, whatever that is, will not get you well. You’re not well without a really good diet, but it’s not. People are struggling today. They’re eating this, this, this, and perfect, and etcetera, and not even losing weight on whatever the “perfect diet” is.
Barton Scott:
I couldn’t say it better.
Dr. Pompa:
When we look at what we’re under—just so people know, I just threw that out there. Glyphosate is a chemical being used massively. It’s in 60% of rainfall.
How it works, by the way, folks, how it keeps pests away, weeds from growing is it depletes minerals. That’s what it does. It literally pulls minerals to kill weeds. This is what it’s designed to do.
The problem is that it does it in our body, but it’s doing it in the soil. Now we have depleted soil. Oh, but don’t worry because they’ve spent millions and millions of dollars on putting minerals back in the soil in the form of fertilizers. Oh, if it were only so simple.
Barton Scott:
Oh, God, yeah. The NPK fallacy of nitrogen suggests.
Dr. Pompa:
The plants are growing. The plants pull the minerals in. That’s how we really get our minerals is by iodized minerals in the plants. Now, we’re deficient in that. I just want people to hear that.
Then, another thing, Barton, is heavy metals. This is my specialty. We pull heavy metals out of people. People are loaded with heavy metals.
Heavy metals replace where minerals actually should work. That’s another big problem creating “deficiencies,” or like even you said, people are trying to take minerals and they’re not absorbing it. Heavy metals can actually be the problem there, which is a whole other subject. I don’t want to get you distracted on that.
Barton Scott:
Sure, yeah, it’s true.
Dr. Pompa:
I do want you to say one thing before we talk about the testing of it because people are going to want, well, how can I accurately test this. I want to say—I want you to talk about why I made the comment in the beginning that minerals are more important than vitamins in [00:26:59] sparks. Explain that to people because that’s maybe why to diet doesn’t always do it. Explain the mineral’s role in nutrition.
Barton Scott:
Absolutely; minerals are activators. They are the spark plug. If you have a combustion engine and you don’t have a spark, you don’t have combustion even though you have all the other necessary components at your disposal. To say that is to quote a Nobel prize winner, Linus Pauling.
The other aspect of it though that’s interesting is they activate so many enzymatic functions in the body. When we’re low in magnesium, this is one of the things that when people fix, they—when you take Upgraded Magnesium, the very first night, most people sleep better because most people are deficient in it. If you don’t notice much of a change, you either didn’t take enough, or you just don’t have a deficiency, or you’re just not very in touch with your body, frankly. I am I think from being a wrestler and understanding, oh, I ate a Snickers Bar and I absolutely couldn’t even finish practice. At an early age, I started to develop this mind-body connection. I realized, oh, pasta doesn’t actually make me feel good even though everyone’s talking about carb loading. Maybe there’s something with that.
Now, we know it’s things like glyphosate that in addition to everything Dr. Pompa just mentioned, it also—glyphosate also goes through the lining of the gut and creates impermeability, which is a huge problem. If that doesn’t scare you into eating organic, I don’t know what will. Use fear as a good motivator here and start voting with your dollar if you aren’t already. I’m sure if you’re listening to this, you probably are because this just an amazing resource for so many topics. Magnesium though, you start to feel better because when you—imagine up to 800 or so enzymatic functions working better. These things don’t really work without that electron driving force.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s what I wanted people to understand. The minerals are the electron driving force. They are the sparks. Nothing works; your vitamins don’t work. The engine doesn’t fly without minerals in the cell. That’s what people have to understand. Okay, so—
Barton Scott:
Yeah, and when we’re fasting too, we’re making a lot of—we’re pulling from fat stores. We’re getting that. I also during that five-day fast, I took—I haven’t done without our minerals. I took our minerals throughout the fast.
I felt really good. I put in 8 to 12 hour days throughout the five-day fast that I did. I felt really good. Just to make sure I was—and those are zero calorie.
I say that because when the body has enough stored fat, when you have enough minerals, you can—and you get enough sunlight, too; you mentioned sunscreen. Getting enough sunlight and activating a number of different pathways through that, you really can sustain life for a very long time. Now, that’s a huge asterisk by that; do that under supervision, obviously. When you say—
Dr. Pompa:
You know what’s funny is there was a—I don’t know if you watched it, probably not, but Naked and Afraid. I always smile because [00:30:40]. My whole thing was, these people, they make such the big deal. It’s like, without food. They’re looking for food and they’re exhausting themselves.
My strategy would be I would go there and just fast for 21 days. I’m like, that’s the simplest thing to do. I’d build a shelter the first few days and that’s all I would do. I would hang out in the sun in my shelter.
This gal on there finally did this. Her team hated her because it was like—she was just doing nothing. She was like, I don’t need food. She’s like I’m just—she found a mineral-rich source of water. She was drinking water and laying in the sun.
Here’s the funny thing. They criticized her. She’s not a team player. By the end, she was the only one with energy. She actually built the raft because they were tanked.
All their food sourcing and she was the only one that actually energy. In the end, she actually won out. All she was surviving on was water, mineral-rich water, and sunlight. She kept saying, my sun’s my energy. Anyways, it was pretty funny. That would be my approach.
Barton Scott:
A hundred percent, that’s a great story.
Dr. Pompa:
I think it’s funny because I wanted to do that. My kids kept saying, “Dad, you need to go on there and just be like—
Barton Scott:
Crush it.
Dr. Pompa:
No need to look for food. I’m just going to fast for 21 days. I promise you I’d been running circles around all of them because they’re all completely doing their food sources. They get sick half the time eating crap that they shouldn’t.
Anyway, let’s talk about testing because I think that is something. We both agree. I don’t think hair testing is great for heavy metals, but years ago, I had Dr. Andy Cutler come into my seminars and show people how to look at mineral imbalance or ratios as an indicator of certain heavy metal, too much heavy metals, too much mercury, too much lead, whatever it is. It’s not a great thing to look at heavy metal in the body; however, it’s the way to assess your minerals in general. Talk about that.
I’m going to give you a minute to talk about your products, too, here before we wrap up. Are we offering a test? Does your company a test? Talk about hair analysis.
Barton Scott:
Yeah, we do. We have a really nice, really easy to use test kit. We found that so many people when we first started were struggling with the test kit that we had, so we just have continually improved from an information standpoint and packaging. You can see a picture on upgradedformulas.com of that. You can find a consultation there too option which almost no one offers.
Dr. Pompa:
I’m sure we’re offering a link for that. You can grab it.
Barton Scott:
Yeah, I’m sure there will be links you guys can provide in the show notes for people and make it easy and send them right there. I highly recommend the consultation because—I think we’ll have a second nutritionist here soon, but we have a full-time nutritionist now that I’ve trained myself that really knows how to go deep into this. I’ve got to say, more so than any other test that I’ve ever looked at, all the value is in the details.
Dr. Pompa:
Always.
Barton Scott:
Yeah, it really is. Dr. Pompa mentioned sodium and potassium earlier. That’s a ratio that we look for. What I love about this is that there’s a number of different ratios we test for.
We’ve partnered with a couple of labs that we really like and value their whole method and processing method. In fact, I know to be true that not every lab is created equal in anything and certainly not for hair testing either. We work with two right now that are really just I think the best in the game at what they do. They’re incredible. That’s another thing to mention.
What else? Yeah, the ratios themselves, I can tell if someone has mental disturbances, like severe levels of it just by looking at a couple of ratios. I can tell if someone is going to have dysregulated hormones just by looking at a ratio.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s great, yeah.
Barton Scott:
Zinc to copper, if it’s off, there’s no chance it will be—there’s no chance the person will be healthy from a hormonal standpoint. If sodium and potassium is off, there’s no chance that the person’s going to be—
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, what people don’t realize is zinc plays such a significant role. I might reverse this because I’m completely dyslexic. Zinc is progestogen, copper is estrogen, or do I have that flipped?
Barton Scott:
You got it right, yes.
Dr. Pompa:
I got it right. That’s pretty amazing, actually.
Barton Scott:
Yeah, that’s awesome.
Dr. Pompa:
No, directly, zinc directly affects progesterone, etcetera. That ratio really plays with those.
Barton Scott:
A hundred percent, that is a great point that you make there. Iron to copper is another one. This one is important for anti-aging. You guys heard Dr. Pompa mention just oxidation, free radicals.
I think some of these diets that are really elimination diets are really problematic because they—without going into it too much, if any diet has you consuming too much of something, it’s going to what? Fill in the blank. It’s going to imbalance the rest of all the other key nutrients. If you’re taking in too much iron for any reason, what do you think that’s going to do based on what we’ve already covered here? It’s going to dysregulate a number of different things. That’s really important. There’s thyroid ratios that we look for.
Dr. Pompa:
Awesome.
Barton Scott:
Does this match up with blood is a question that I’m asked often. The answer is blood, for better or worse, we know we can affect it in a day. We know that if you eat a really sugary breakfast, what happens if you test blood sugar within three hours? It looks like you’re a diabetic.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s different. Yeah, blood is transient, meaning it’s in the moment. Literally, you can measure your mineral contents in the morning; it will be different by the afternoon. Hair literally gives you a six-month—correct me if I’m wrong.
Barton Scott:
Oh, yeah, six weeks.
Dr. Pompa:
A six-month view of what your minerals have looked like. Am I right on that?
Barton Scott:
What we find is certainly it—okay, I would say people should test every—if they’re really sick, they should do it every four weeks. The average is two to three months.
Dr. Pompa:
Because you’re actually changing it, you want to see the difference.
Barton Scott:
Exactly, you’re changing it. If you have something like six inches—we’re in quarantine over here. I haven’t had a haircut in like three months. Luckily, I’ll get one this week finally. If I were to cut off some of my hair that’s six inches, if I sent all of that in, that would be six months of data, for sure.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, okay.
Barton Scott:
What we find is that when we ask people to send in about an inch of hair, it takes the average person four to eight weeks to grow that hair. What Dr. Pompa is saying there is absolutely correct in that we are influencing those changes by doing—you don’t have to it with us. Obviously, if you can find somewhere that can give you a great consultation, if you can find somewhere that can give you a great hair analysis, sure, but we’ve figured it all out for you. However you do it, you’ve just got to test; otherwise, you’re guessing.
With you guys, you do the same thing on the polar opposite side, which is equally important, which is, hey, we’ve got to get these heavy metals out of here, so we test, too. Testing is key. Consultations are key. Then taking only the supplements are key. Then stopping the consumption of supplements you don’t need is also I would say equally important from a chemical balance basis because if you’re high in calcium and you’re taking more calcium, I promise things are only going to get worse.
Dr. Pompa:
I think with minerals, it’s even more important just to get those balances. That’s why you’re here. It’s why we’re offering the test and the consultation.
Just in finishing up just for time sake, I do want to give you a moment to say why your minerals. Obviously, you’re a believer. Why your minerals?
Barton Scott:
Yeah, certainly. I understood as it was talked about earlier that absorption was a real issue. I eventually was able to work with a manufacturer that was already doing some great work. I knew that we needed to make some improvements, make some tweaks. I understood that to get—we needed a really small, microparticle mineral size.
As a chemical engineer, I understood process improvement. I worked with them. We have a signed contract with them to reduce a—from a process standpoint, something that is you can think of it as predigested, I suppose in really layman’s terms.
All I can say is when you take our potassium, you fell a jolt of electricity. You take our magnesium, you feel a jolt. It’s because you’re putting this electricity into your body basically. These have electron driving force.
We don’t do flavors. I’m sorry; it’s not going to taste like fruit punch because it blocks absorption. What I’ve done is just created this line of minerals based on this understanding so that people can actually support and reverse their mineral deficiencies because life gets a whole lot better when you do.
You live better; you love better; you have more energy to do things. Because our electrical energy in our body is able to be measured from a number of different ways, heart, brain, etcetera, to the extent you could say that producing high voltage in the body is correlated to high output; high output’s correlated to high achievement; high achievement’s correlated to a high quality of life. High quality of life is what we’re after.
Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely, and by the way, that’s a great point. You don’t create voltage with vitamin C; you create voltage with minerals. You do; think about it. They’re conductive.
I just want to show this for your sake here. I think it’s a great label. Size does matter; bigger is not better. This is just a good visual. There’s a regular mineral and there’s more of a nano-size mineral.
Barton Scott:
Yeah, exactly. Thank you for showing people that. Anyone that’s listening to this on the podcast can check out the YouTube or something and see that, most likely. Follow the links that are provided and you can see that, too.
What Dr. Pompa is pointing to is the size of a red blood cell and the size of that. We measure this in nanometers, which is a unit of measure for really small things. Yeah, the size of the mitochondria is ultimately what we care about. That’s less than 1,000 nanometers; usually, around 500.
Anyway, that’s only important to say that, look, the particle size matters; size matters. It absolutely does. In this case, small and also stable is really important.
There’s some companies that can make some really small particles. In a liquid form, we want them to be stable, too. That’s really important. We want a consistent product that’s consistent in every dose. I just applied my—you get [00:43:45].
Dr. Pompa:
Engineers, man, engineers are the brightest people. I always say the engineers of the minds that make it happen.
Barton Scott:
Thanks, we just know how to—we’re super practical people.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s true. Yeah, no, right. It’s so true, actually, yeah.
Barton, thank you. Thanks for being on, honestly. It’s an important topic. I really can’t believe it’s taken me this long to get to the topic, but we’ve been waiting for you.
Barton Scott:
Oh, thank you.
Dr. Pompa:
All right, take advantage of the link, take advantage of the test. Barton, appreciate you, thanks.
Barton Scott:
Thank you so much, guys. Thank you for listening.
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