Join me on location in Siesta Key, FL with my good friend, Naturopathic Physician and Chiropractic Neurologist Dr. John Lieurance. John has a simple procedure that he discovered in Germany that addresses conditions like tinnitus, hearing loss, and vertigo – stemming from the inner ear. These conditions tend to leave people hopeless. This will give you new hope.
More about Dr. John Lieurance
Dr. John A. Lieurance is a Doctor of Chiropractic, Registered Medical Assistant and Performs Musculoskeletal Ultrasound. He has practiced in Sarasota for 24 years. Dr. Lieurance has a gift for difficult cases where other practitioners have failed. With the successful integration of Functional Neurology, Chiropractic, Naturopathy, Nutrition using the Asyra, Detoxification Programs and LumoMed inner ear therapy. His Musculoskeletal Ultrasound training includes over 100 hours through the Gulf Coast Ultrasound Institute, 60 hours through AAOM, 90 hours through AOAPRM, and 60 through TOBI.
He also has extensive training for sterile lab procedures and the processing of blood platelets, bone marrow aspirate, and adipose tissue through Oregen Biologics, Emcyte Corporation, Ron Gardener, M.D. (orthopedic surgeon), Regenestem and the Ageless Regenerative Institute. He has been an assistant instructor for hands on practicum for diagnosis using musculoskeletal ultrasound for the 3rd Annual Platelet Rich Plasma & Regenerative Medicine Symposium in Los Angeles, California in 2015, and was a speaker at the Florida Chiropractic Physicians Association (FCPA) in Orlando, Florida in 2016 on Clinical Applications of Musculoskeletal Ultrasound. He has completed training with Dr Richie Shoemaker in 2019 for diagnosis & treatment of CIRS and with the “Shoemaker Protocol.”
His techniques include Continuing Chiropractic Education: Chiropractic Neurology, – Applied Kinesiology “AK”, Cold Laser Therapy, Extremity Adjusting, Sports Injury Taping, Rehabilitation of Sports Injuries, Lumbar and Cervical Disc Decompression, Pettibon Scoliosis through the Carrick Institute of Functional Neurology as well as Vestibular Rehabilitation & Movement Disorders through the Carrick Institute in 2012,’16, ’17, ’18. Dr. Lieurance is the developer of Functional Cranial Release and teaches, as well as certifies, these methods to doctors around the world.
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Ashley:
Hello, everyone. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m Ashley Smith, and today we join Dr. Pompa down on location in Siesta Key, Florida. He’s with his good friend, Naturopathic Physician and Chiropractic Neurologist Dr. John Lieurance. Dr. John has a simple procedure that he discovered in Germany that addresses conditions like tinnitus, hearing loss, and vertigo; conditions that tend to leave people hopeless, so I hope this episode brings you hope. Let’s join Dr. Pompa and Dr. John. Welcome, everybody.
Dr. Pompa:
John, Dr. John, welcome back to CellTV.
Dr. John:
Thank you, good to be here.
Dr. Pompa:
I’m excited to be here in Sarasota, man.
Dr. John:
I know.
Dr. Pompa:
This is number two CellTV for you, pal.
Dr. John:
Yeah.
Dr. Pompa:
I had to come here. When someone’s doing something great, man, I show up. I do. Yeah, no, I really wanted to bring some of what you’re doing alive and to people. This one niche that not only did I say I have to bring this to CellTV. I want to bring the technology to doctors and the doctors that I train. That’s how big this is, man, honestly. When we’re dealing with conditions like tinnitus, hearing loss, and vertigo, these are conditions that people are hopeless, man, and yet, there’s been this discovery in Germany, this technology in Germany. You happened upon it. I’ll let you tell that story, but you’re the first to bring it to the US. Man, I made you this vow that I’m going to help you do it after I saw it.
Dr. John:
Yeah, it’s exciting.
Dr. Pompa:
During this interview, you’re going to get to hear from Dr. Kaiser himself from Germany. Man, tell the story about this. How did you come upon this?
Dr. John:
My pain to purpose was chronic mold illness, Lyme, very similar to your journey. In one portion of my journey, I went to Germany to receive treatment for Lyme disease, and I was in Southern Germany. I had been involved with working with tinnitus and hearing loss and dizziness and Meniere’s disease for a long time. What I was doing was something called Functional Cranial Release where it was endo-nasal balloon manipulations and then various forms of exercise, neurological exercise, which we still do. What I found was that the results were—with hearing loss and tinnitus were—they weren’t quite what they were with some of the other things I was treating.
I had a patient that came to me, had great results with their vertigo, but the hearing loss and the tinnitus was marginal. She went to see Dr. Kaiser in Germany, and then she reported back to me how great the results were. It cleared up her tinnitus, and her hearing improved. She said, “If you go do this training, this would really complete your center.” When I was over there, I was on Facebook, and she saw that I was close to Baden-Baden. She’s like you’ve got to go meet Dr. Kaiser.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, that’s like—Baden-Baden, well, it’s a place in Germany. It’s this seminar that everything in our space that is new and—I mean, it starts there, man.
Dr. John:
Oh, yeah, and that’s where Dr. Kaiser lives. He and his father, they pioneered this treatment since 35 years ago. I did; I reached out to Dr. Kaiser. It was just like we just connected right away.
Dr. Pompa:
The timing must’ve been relevant.
Dr. John:
Oh, yeah. He really wanted to teach other doctors, and when I met him, he had only taught one other doctor, which is in Northern Germany. He really liked the idea that I had some of the background I did with chiropractic neurology and so forth. We planned for me to come back and do some very intensive training with him, and shortly after that, we launched Lumomed USA right here in Sarasota, Florida.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s awesome, man, the first right here. Yeah, look, I was excited when I saw it. Like you, I had some infection from a cavitation move into my upper neck. It affected my hearing and even some of the treatments I did affected my hearing. My wife kept saying, “Did you hear me?” I’m like, “You’re not talking loud enough. I didn’t hear you.”
Dr. John:
What?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, honestly, for me—and you measured my hearing. This actually starts, which you’ll actually see how that works. We’ll actually show you measuring my hearing, but it’s just a simple hearing test, get a gauge where somebody is. Then there’s a baseline, and we can go from there.
Dr. John:
It’s important to assess the—it’s called an audiometric evaluation, and so it’s important to assess that. There are certain parameters that—within conversation and also how close you are to needing hearing aids or how close you are to needing the improvement where you can get out of hearing aids if you’re wearing them so really having all that assessment. Within tinnitus, which we see quite a bit, often times people aren’t really appreciating the fact that they are having a lot of problems with their hearing because they’ve never really been tested. We can see that the damage starts in the ear, and it starts in the hair cells that are related to those frequencies. It’s like if you hurt yourself or stub your toe, you got pain from that part of the body. This is your body. An inflamed hair cell, inflamed inner ear, it’s basically sending signals saying, hey, I’m hurting.
Dr. Pompa:
The technology is a laser technology, right? We’re going to hear from Dr. Kaiser about the technical parts of it, but it’s a special laser that performs at a very high level without burning you, basically.
Dr. John:
Right.
Dr. Pompa:
I had it done. It was just warm. Explain a little bit about how it’s working. How does it work? I mean, the results for this with hearing improvement and all these conditions are spectacular. How does it work?
Dr. John:
It’s hard to explain how it works without talking about the way that cells make energy. Mitochondria are in all of your cells, and they take energy from oxygen and glucose. The functionality of these mitochondria seem to decline pretty rapidly in the inner ear, and laser has been shown to have a beneficial effect to human cells and tissues.
Dr. Pompa:
I’ve done shows with Joovv. It’s red light therapy, near-infrared therapy, and it affects the mitochondria. Obviously, this is very different than that but still the same principle.
Dr. John:
The challenge for us was how to get the laser that far in because you actually have to go through some bone to get to that cochlea. It’s in a little…
Dr. Pompa:
That’s where the power had to be really high.
Dr. John:
Right.
Dr. Pompa:
For the power to typically be that high, you’re burning something.
Dr. John:
Right, you want it to be safe, but you also want it to be working efficacy, so that was the challenge. Actually, the technology now is way better than what they were using back in the early days with Lumomed.
Dr. Pompa:
You can see, just to show you how simple the procedure is—I’m going to be honest with you. I feel asleep today doing it.
Dr. John:
It’s very relaxing.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, check out this clip. You’ll see how simple it is.
Dr. John:
You see the laser’s actually going right to the ear, even to areas around the ear. Often times, some of the stress and tightness of some of the muscles even around the outside of the ear can be involved with lymphatic flow and drainage, and so that’s why it’s important that we actually laser more than just the actual inner ear.
Dr. Pompa:
You can see why I fell asleep. It wasn’t like it was anything too invasive in my ear. Okay, so you’ve even added to this. I mean, you get a lot of complicated stuff that flies in here right? You talked about how you do the cranial adjustments. Talk a little bit about that, and you’ll see me getting that done as well.
Dr. John:
As we talked about in the first podcast, you’re either a swamp or a river. If you look at the inner ear, circulation is really important, so you’re wanting to bring in the groceries and take out the garbage, right? That ability for regeneration is really critical. A lot of people don’t really appreciate the fact the skull is multiple bones that come together, and they’re supposed to be a movement pattern to the skull.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, the first show that we did we actually focused on this, but now we’re pulling it into—I mean, you can see how delicate these bones are right around the middle ear. That’s why adding this to the treatments obviously improves the whole—treatment speeds it up. Just to show them, what are you actually adjusting with these balloon techniques? You’ll see in a minute—you want to hold it up? There we go. Go ahead.
Dr. John:
There’s two focuses that we have with this is you’re mobilizing the bones themselves and, in particular, this red bone in the middle. It’s called the sphenoid, and all of the bones actually converge in and touch the sphenoid. When we do the balloon adjustment, it’s called an endo-nasal balloon manipulation.
Dr. Pompa:
We’ll put the link to the first show right here, so you can actually watch that. We get into some serious detail on it, but go ahead.
Dr. John:
We do that manipulation, but what you have to understand is that there’s connective tissue wrapped all around all of this. It actually becomes the whites of your eyes. It wraps into your sinuses, wraps into your ear and so that deep connective tissue, which they also call the dura mater, which in Latin is tough mother. Mother, it protects your central nervous system.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, absolutely.
Dr. John:
There’s a release to that, and over our lifetime, it could be from the birth process, or it could be from hitting your head or traumas, or it could be from bad posture. You can actually get adhesions so that this connective tissue isn’t movable, and it’s not flowing. That restriction can prevent good circulation so drainage from the head and from the inner ear. We do these manipulations to enhance, really, circulation.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, exactly. In the protocol, you’re going—you evaluate people when they come in to say do they need this? Do they just need the laser? Then there’s more.
Dr. John:
Right, yeah, there’s more.
Dr. Pompa:
There’s more, yeah, so I mean, talk about some of the other things that—I’ve been through the ringer here.
Dr. John:
Yeah, well, we’re finding some exciting results with using exosomes intranasally, so it’s pretty simple. As you can see right here, we’re putting some intranasal exosomes with Dan. He’s just laying back, and we keep him at that reclined position for 20 to 25 minutes. This has a good effect to absorb these exosomes which are from placental stem cells into the area there.
Dr. Pompa:
Exosomes, just to catch people back up, they’re not stem cells. They’re what stem cells produce. I’ve done some shows about them. They’re small. They’re tiny. They’re able to get into these areas that are injured, potential injure, so once again, you’re taking the protocol to the whole next level.
Dr. John:
Right, it’s all about ways that we can create more regeneration; really maximize the regenerative effect in the body. The inner ear is considered to be impossible to regenerate.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s what I was just going to say. I mean, that’s why I got excited about this. These are conditions that no one has hope. I mean, hearing loss, this prevents hearing aids. Look, in Dr. Kaiser’s piece, I mean, he talks about people coming back from crazy places where there was no hearing, or they were already in using hearing aids and coming back from it, so that to me is exciting. Tinnitus, I had it. I had so much mercury up in my jaw that it was just—I would just hear ringing, buzzing at night, especially when I was tired at night when you’re—everything’s quiet, and you just hear it going on, maddening, actually.
I also went through episodes of vertigo when I was sick. Again, I came out of it, but many people don’t. They’re living their lives this way. That’s why, again, this excites me, man. Bringing a lot of people hope.
Dr. John:
After watching this episode, for sure, if you went and talked to your audiologists or your primary care doctor, they’re going to absolutely say it’s impossible.
Dr. Pompa:
No way.
Dr. John:
You’re wasting your time.
Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely, wasting your time, yeah.
Dr. John:
There actually is some studies that show that there’s some efficacy with laser to the inner ear.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, well, let’s cut—let’s bring Dr. Kaiser in from Germany, which he was gracious enough that you brought—so let’s hear from him himself. They can hear about the technology, and he even mentioned some of the studies and the work they’re doing, so check it out.
All right, Amon Kaiser, welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m glad you could join us in this interview. I appreciate that, all the way from Germany. Thank you.
Dr. Kaiser:
Yes, thank you very much for working with me.
Dr. Pompa:
Yes, so I want you to talk about this technology that we have been talking about. I so appreciate the fact that you were able to hop on this interview and bring some light to it. You’re the creator of this technology, correct?
Dr. Kaiser:
I’m not the creator. It’s a family thing. My father developed the therapy and developed a lot in this field, and of course, we improved a lot in this way of treatment. The technology is one part of the whole treatment that we call the Lumomed treatment.
Dr. Pompa:
Tell me. Give the history then with your—obviously, there’s a story here somewhere. Tell me how this all started, and then we’ll get into more of why it works so well. Tell me a little bit about that.
Dr. Kaiser:
Yeah, the whole story started more than 20 years ago, and this time the work had been done, the first experiments with laser treatments. Together we installed the so-called Lumomed laser treatment where we treat especially—we are specialized in the treatment of inner ears. In the past, it was a story of a lot of development in a field that in the general medicine there are no solutions. For the inner ear problems like tinnitus, vertigo, hearing loss and so on, there are no solutions for patients. The idea was to find a technology which can reach the inner ear. The inner ear is a very complex system. In our bone, there was a very—the bone for the inner ear is very difficult to penetrate with lasers, so we had to construct very, very strong lasers to really reach the inner ear.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I had it done when I was here, and the irony was is all I felt was maybe a little bit of warm. The power, of course you think of power as like, gosh, I would really feel that, but I really didn’t.
Dr. Kaiser:
Yeah, it’s not a laser knife like you—or a laser gun like most people think when they hear they get treated by laser. The lasers that we use today are constructed from a very innovative company. The company is called ASA Laser, and we are working together with them since six years now. After my father was in retirement, I built up a new company together with my wife, and we tried to find a company which is very sophisticated and established. The company, ASA Laser, they produce high-power lasers, but on the same time, they found special technology how to avoid a heating of the skin. The problem with laser treatment is, when you have a very high power, you have the danger that you could burn the skin, so they developed a technology where they can put a lot of very high-powered laser light on the skin, on the area that should be treated. Not only the inner ears. Lasers can be used, for example, for pain reduction. It can be used for bone healing. Things like this.
On the same time, this high-power treatment doesn’t heat the cellular structure, so we can have a deep penetration. We have a very high effectiveness without any heating of the cells, so you don’t burn.
Dr. Pompa:
Did your father, I mean—did he have a—what is his background that he was able to develop this?
Dr. Kaiser:
This was just a personal situation for him to develop this. Like I already told you, now he lives on a small island in Europe. My wife and me, we have this company since 2008 now, and we develop technology together with ASA Laser.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it’s interesting. Okay, tinnitus, we talked about that, hearing loss. I mean, how effective is this? What have you seen with this? Obviously, Dr. John’s using it with great results here, but you’ve been doing it longer than Dr. John. It’s bigger in Germany. It’s just now coming to the US. Tell us about some of the results you’ve seen with some of the conditions you mentioned.
Dr. Kaiser:
Like every treatment, it’s necessary to see how big is the damage? It’s very difficult to say you have 100% healing if you compare a small damage with a big damage. Depending on the damage and the size of the damage, which you can very easy evaluate with hearing tests, we can say that, if you have a middle damage so not very strong, not very soft in the middle field, this means the damage around 30 to 40 decibel. You have a loss of—the normal hearing is between 0 and 10 decibel. Beginning from 30 decibel, you start—you get hearing problems. You do not understand a normal conversation. You cannot follow a normal conversation.
If we take this 30 decibel as a middle damage field, you can imagine that we have an improvement of 10 decibel or 10 treatments. This means, after ten treatments, we already have an improvement in the normal hearing area. Between 10 and 30 decibels, this is our normal hearing. Of course, you need to have follow ups then, so the patient usually comes for the first ten. Then, after 3 to 6 months, they receive a follow-up treatment of again 10 decibel, and then we are already in that area between 10 and 20 decibels. It’s incredible improvement. We speak of a cure in that ear if you reach the line of 10 decibel. The success rate is extremely high as we want the possibility to improve the whole hearing capacity. People who usually need hearing aids, they can put them away because they hear normal after a certain period of treatments.
It’s important to understand that the laser therapy is not something like an operation. We do not open the skin and take something out and close it again. It’s by a stimulation process, which means every cell needs a certain time to get cured after the treatment. You do not go to the treatment, and after ten days, you are healthy. We split the question. The first is, if we look on the disease, that hearing or hearing loss, that’s just the symptoms that you do not hear right like you used to. The typical process is that you have a hearing loss, for example, due to stress or due to infections, even due to loud music maybe, and you have a lot of bad consequence. I’ve got a lot of people get hearing losses.
If you take all of the hearing loss without any other symptoms like, for example, tinnitus or vertigo, this is absolutely easy to treat. You can count that you have an improvement of 10 decibel or ten treatments. You take the hearing test. You see how big is the damage? Then you already can say how many treatments the patient will need, so a usual hearing loss of 20 to 30 decibel will need between 20 and 30 treatments until this patient is completely cured.
Dr. Pompa:
Wow! That’s amazing. Then what about with the results with tinnitus, which is maddening for people, obviously? I mean, the ringing in the ear, is it a very similar progression?
Dr. Kaiser:
It’s not a similar progression because the tinnitus is very—it’s depending on so many factors.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s true.
Dr. Kaiser:
I have to start in another way. The easiest way to treat tinnitus is if it’s depending on an acute acoustic trauma, for example, an explosion or a gunshot. Things like this or a concert. There are no factors which have another influence on it. Maybe those are people who are—have a complete normal life-work balance, and things like this. In this case, it’s easy. Those patients just need to wear earplugs during the whole treatment time to avoid if they have any other noises, and we can count the same situation like with the hearing loss. We can see the damage on the hearing tests, and we can saw in advance how many treatments they will need. Most patients with tinnitus do not suffer from tinnitus due to acoustic traumas. Most of them suffer from tinnitus due to stress, and now it’s quite difficult. What we cannot do with the Lumomed treatment, we cannot change their lives.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, you can’t remove the stress necessarily, yeah.
Dr. Kaiser:
Exactly, that’s more complicated to treat, and it depends a lot on the behavior of the patients. Of course, we can explain this. Of course, we can give help. You need to change your life if you are in a situation like most people who get tinnitus. I would say more than 60% of my patients suffer from tinnitus due to emotional stress. It’s not the stress that they have because they have so much work. This can be very positive stress. When you have positive stress, you have a lot to do. You’ve got your money involved. This can be very positive, but if it’s combined with a lot of emotional stress, then it’s getting quite difficult to find a way out of this.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, and sometimes it can be physical, chemical. I mean, we have a lot of people who have a lot of mercury build up, and we start removing the mercury. Their tinnitus actually starts to lower down, go way, but with this combination, it would be amazing. I mean, vertigo is debilitating for people. What are the results with that?
Dr. Kaiser:
With the vertigo, it’s absolutely great because the results with vertigo are incredible. I try to explain what we are doing with it, with the vertigo. With the laser, we are stimulating the inner ear cells. Our hearing is in the so-called cochlea. If we have a vertigo situation, you have to understand that this is like a slow transport of information. In our brain, we have a—let’s say a central coordination system. This central coordination system is reasonable to have a normal balance system. This central coordination station creates a view of the room around us together with the eyes, together with all my external nerves, so my brain knows in what position my legs are, even if I don’t think about it. My brain knows in what position my hands right there behind my back, even if I do not see. It’s very important.
The third information is coming out of the equilibrium, out of our inner ears, and this is like a coordination system. It has an X, Y in the set axis, so it tells me what position my head is. This needs to be 100% together. Only then you have a normal feeling of balance. If the inner ear cells are damaged due to acoustic traumas, due to stress, due to any toxic situations, the information of the movement of the brain is slower, and so our central coordination system doesn’t get it together. What happens? You get vertigo.
Dr. Pompa:
Got it.
Dr. Kaiser:
Yeah, you can compare it, for example, if you are on the boat. The best is you are in the boat. You are in the boat, so you sit in a room. You have the feeling that you are sitting in the room, but your equilibrium is doing like this.
Dr. Pompa:
What does the laser do to correct it?
Dr. Kaiser:
Yeah, the laser gives the energy, the power so that those inner ear cells, especially the cells of the equilibrium, can be cured, and they have enough energy to get faster information like it was before. Why is it so easy to treat? It’s because our equilibrium is very important for us. For example, if you see a patient who has vertigo out of the civilization, you do not have a chance to survive. You need to have a normal walk. You need to be able to have a normal life situation. With the vertigo, you have to imagine that your room is spinning around. It’s like you are absolutely seasick, so you do not have a normal life anymore.
Dr. Pompa:
No, yeah, that’s why I—I’m wondering why it’s taken so long, honestly, to get this to the US. This has obviously been used in Germany for many years. Are there other European countries where they’re using this technology?
Dr. Kaiser:
The technology, yes, but not the indication. The laser technology is used in a lot of areas on the body, but this specialization on treatment of the inner ear…
Dr. Pompa:
Yes, we use a lot of laser here in the US for different conditions. It’s never been successful in the ear. In Germany are there—in other countries, have long have they been doing this?
Dr. Kaiser:
That’s one of those facts why I decided to share the knowledge about it. The first experiences have been done in my family from my father. He didn’t want to give the information how to treat it for several years and, also, because it was not—there had not been enough experiences about it. Now, after nearly 30 years—I’m doing this treatment since 15 years now because there’s a lot of experience in this field. We needed a long, long time of—how you say it in English? We needed a long time to develop the right technology. The lasers that had been in use in medical areas, they had been always too weak. The generation of lasers we had been using ten years ago had been lasers which had been exclusively constructed for us. Nobody could buy this on the open market.
Dr. Pompa:
I got it. Yeah, so I mean, obviously, the laser’s powerful. Have you experimented on other areas, other joints, other things besides just the ears with these powerful lasers that don’t heat? I mean, there’s a—that’s exciting technology.
Dr. Kaiser:
Yes, absolutely, it’s fantastic. For pain management, for example, we’ve had very high success rate. You have to know that the people who are suffering from inner ear diseases, they are—how to say? They are helpless. They don’t have a chance to come back to normal life, so this special field became my specialization.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s why this is—I wanted to do this show. I mean, I’ve done shows on other things, even lasers. With these things we’re talking about with the ears, you’re right. I mean, there’s just no hope for people. That’s why I was like does this work? Does this really work? When I heard that it does, I said, okay, John, we have to do a show on this. I mean, people will be flying in from around our country to get to this office, yeah, no, really exciting.
Honestly, that’s why I’m stunned that it’s—really, I can’t believe it hasn’t taken off yet just because people need help with this. I mean, if you can go without hearing aids, like you said, it’s—with vertigo, it’s debilitating, and yet, there’s a simple answer here. I mean, I did the treatment. I mean, it’s not like it’s painful. There’s nothing invasive about it. It’s remarkable, really remarkable. Yeah, now, are there any studies being done on this in Germany right now?
Dr. Kaiser:
Yes, of course. There have been a lot of studies done for the treatment of inner ears with—even with much, much less power, and they already have enough results so that it’s really absolutely incredible. Let’s say that it’s not already spreading. Like I told you, it’s already a very personal thing. It’s a very personal history behind this. Our idea was now we are the young generation to spread the knowledge over the world. In the past, the patients, they came from everywhere to Germany to get the treatment. It’s quite difficult, of course, if you need to plan this with flights and hotels and so on.
Even now, I’m working together with a colleague in Hamburg a lot, in Germany. Our office here is in Bonn, in South Germany, and this already helped. For the people in Germany, they also needed to travel really long. Now together with John it’s, of course, a fantastic option for all the patients coming from America which needed to come over the big lake for the treatment.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, exactly. My promise to John was, look, let’s bring this to more doctors around the US. I mean, right now, people can fly here, thank God, to Sarasota, which easier than Germany. Yeah, I mean, my gosh, it’s so affordable. It’s so simple, and it’s so effective. Just being here hearing the stories, it’s been fantastic.
Dr. Kaiser:
Also, concerning the effectiveness, it’s definitely that we have better effects if the patients do not have to travel too long. Of course, they need to take this for their holiday time. They need to take two weeks. Then, after let’s say three to six months, again two weeks. You can imagine how complicated this is. Also, to combine this with the family, to combine this with the work, the profession, it’s definitely difficult. The easiest or the best results we get we have are local people because we do not need to treat them in let’s say in a row. We do not have to treat them ten days after each other. We treat them, for example, once a week or twice a week. It’s like when you train a muscle. It doesn’t make sense to train the muscle for two weeks, and then you do nothing anymore.
This is why we also constructed a home laser system which helps the people to give the inner ears enough energy to stand the time between the big treatments. When they have the possibility, they get their 10-day treatment, or sometimes, if the damage is too big, I also start with 20 treatments in the first—for the first few times. Then they go home, and they take with them a mobile device, which is of course not so strong like the devices we use in our clinic. Then they do not have the—I call it the daily energy loss. Of course, you cannot protect your—you can protect your ears, but you cannot protect them—for example, you put—you have a broken leg. The broken leg gets fixed, so you cannot walk. You cannot play football. You have to accept that your leg is not used in the time to get cured, but on the inner ear, even if you wear earplugs, you need to communicate. You need to hear something around you. Even if they are strongly damaged, they need to work, so that’s quite difficult, of course. You can imagine.
Dr. Pompa:
People could treat several days in a row, and then they can fly, come back. Treat several more days in a row. Like you said, you can give them some things to do in between to really keep that healing going as you were saying. Keep energy in there. Dr. Kaiser, thank you. I know you’re coming from—I don’t know what time it is there, but I appreciate you jumping into this interview, fantastic. Thank you so much for the technology.
Dr. Kaiser:
[00:37:42].
Dr. Pompa:
Bringing what your father brought to life so that we can experience in the US. This is the first clinic in the US and about to be more.
Dr. Kaiser:
Yeah, you should get more.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, I’m excited. I’m doing the show just so people can at least in the country fly here to Sarasota pretty darn easy. It’s easier than Germany. Thank you, Doc. I appreciate it. Thank you.
Dr. Kaiser:
Thanks a lot. Thanks a lot. From here I can say goodnight because…
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, exactly, goodnight. Great stuff, yeah, man, appreciate you hooking me up with him. What a wealth of knowledge.
Dr. John:
Yeah, he’s amazing.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s awesome. All right, well, it doesn’t even stop there. When somebody comes in—and make sure you tell them. I mentioned it when I was interviewing Dr. Kaiser there. People, obviously, were flying to Germany for this treatment. It’s Sarasota now. We’ll just do it now. Just tell them where to go if they want to make an appointment.
Dr. John:
Our website is advancerejuvenation.us. If you click on Meet Our Doctors, you can schedule a consultation with me right there.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, awesome, I appreciate that. Then they get evaluated, obviously, for this.
Dr. John:
Real important too is I need an audiometric as well, so go and get an audiometric. Sometimes you can get them free at Costco, but you’ll need to attach that file for that consultation.
Dr. Pompa:
If for whatever reason they don’t have it, obviously they can do it if they just say I’m coming. I need this done. You want to evaluate them first even to see if you can help them.
Dr. John:
Right.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s the benefit of getting the audiometric ahead of time.
Dr. John:
Correct.
Dr. Pompa:
Okay, awesome. There’s another part to this. Chiropractic plays a role. You can see just even from the balloon adjustment. You specialize in something else. Explain it.
Dr. John:
When I started utilizing the endo-nasal balloon manipulations—and again, I mean, this is going to sound really far out probably to a lot of people hearing like, oh, balloon in the nose. It is by far the most powerful physical adjustment I think anyone can receive.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it’s amazing.
Dr. John:
I have seen absolute amazing results with conditions that just—I don’t think anything else would’ve really touched that. Early on I was noticing that people with Parkinson’s and stroke and these different neurological conditions were improving. I was seeing this improvement, but I knew I could make it better. I had been studying through what’s called the
Carrick Institute. The Carrick Institute certifies chiropractors to be chiropractic neurologists, and so I went through all that training. I married the functional neurology with the endo-nasal balloon manipulations, so we call that Functional Cranial Release. What’s really critical I think for a lot of people to understand is, if they have a lot of balance and vestibular consequences to their condition, the laser is going to wake those nerves up.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, he talked about that in the interview, Dr. Kaiser.
Dr. John:
It’s regenerative to those nerves, but it’s not going to help you to actually reestablish some of these nerve—the nerve flow. For instance, one of the challenges that I see with a lot of my patients is that their communication between their eyes, their neck, and their head is all off. There’s a conversation where the eyes are talking to the neck.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, totally.
Dr. John:
Head turns or moves one way. The eyes have to adjust to that. Otherwise, you just can’t have proper coordination.
Dr. Pompa:
I watched you yesterday with a quadriplegic patient. You were doing it all, and his eyes were jerking. Then you did some things, some weighting. Some things I was familiar with as well. I saw an immediate improvement just with some of the things. Again, that’s a training that you teach them. Again, not everyone needs that aspect of this, but you evaluate them for this complete protocol, how much of it they need, even on top of the laser. Then there’s some other slick little homeopathic injections that you do.
Dr. John:
Yeah, so there’s some regenerative—the homeopathic is called inner cell. Dr. Smithers, who I think we use is in the first episode, really, really talented with using ozone, Prolozone. He has a protocol that he does acupoint injections around the ear, and we really see that add some value to the overall plan. We don’t do all of these on all the patients, but we try to assess them to create the…
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, exactly, I wanted to experience it. You can check it out here. We’ll run that while we’re talking. I wanted to experience it just because I wanted to experience everything, so I could see the whole thing from beginning to end, your whole protocol, which is amazing. Yeah, so with the inner cell, just a little bit more about it. What does it do? When I say homeopathic, some people get that, but it seems a little more than that.
Dr. John:
My first experience with the inner cell, it helped me dramatically with some pain I had from Lyme disease, and this was 15 years ago.
Dr. Pompa:
By the way, this can be done on joints. This can be done, I mean, many different ways. It just happens to be some people may need it in this protocol for the ear.
Dr. John:
Dan, I’ve tried a lot of things. I’m like you, very curious. I have had a lot of homeopathics that I’ve worked with that are injectable. I’ve never experienced something that was this profound as the inner cell.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s awesome. Dude, you’ve put together the protocol, I mean, the fact that you found this for the inner ear, these problems that people are just suffering with, man, and they don’t have to fly to Germany. My commitment to you is we’re bringing it to more docs.
Dr. John:
There’s just really no—there’s no alternative for—these are conditions that just fall through the cracks with this—with modern medicine.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, there’s no alternative. Yeah, I mean, there’s some surgical stuff for certain hearing loss. Who’s going to do it? The outcome is not great. You’re just not going to take that step, so most people end up with hearing aids.
Dr. John:
Which by the way, I mean, so sound stress is what got them there, right?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah.
Dr. John:
I just had a veteran come in just maybe an hour ago. He was on the—he had the headset, and he’s decoding Chinese and Russian language. He said, “Well, these sounds would be really loud, and I’d have to still listen to it to try to decipher the code.” His hearing has just gotten really challenged, so he had been wearing hearing aids. For some reason, he just intuitively decided that he wanted to stop. I told him this is great. When people are wearing hearing aids, it actually is a bit of a headwind. If you think about, if you’re amplifying sound, that amplified sound stress…
Dr. Pompa:
It makes it worse.
Dr. John:
Part of our protocol is we’ll actually have people really avoid as best they can loud environments and even put in earplugs.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s awesome. I appreciate it, man. This is a great show.
Dr. John:
Yeah, thank you.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, absolutely. All right, well, Sarasota, again, Dr. John is going to provide you with the link. We’ll provide it right here, also the past CellTV that we did with the ballooning. Check it out more. This is going to be a show you want to share because most of us know people with hearing problems. Please share the show. This is amazing technology that people don’t have to fly to Germany for because you brought it here, man.
Dr. John:
Yeah.
Dr. Pompa:
Appreciate it. All right, thank you.
Dr. John:
Thank you, all right.
Ashley:
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