362: Discovering Upstream Stressors: Breast Implants, Mold, Metals, and Hidden Infections

Today I'm sharing a replay of one of my favorite success stories. If you missed this episode in 2019, please meet Tamara Jarrett. She is here to share her healing journey and inspire you to stay hopeful when you feel hopeless. Tamara got her life back by going upstream and uncovering the hidden issues that had been wrecking havoc on her health. Tamara is now living a joyful like inspiring others to find true health, and she’s here to share her story with you all today

If you're someone seeking to get your health back from autoimmunity, irregular hormones, brain fog, food intolerances, gut issues, and neurological conditions, you will learn how to look upstream and discover sources that will change everything for you.

More about Tamara Jarrett:

Tamara has a loving husband and amazing children, and has made discovering and living out the truth behind real health a priority in her life.

After birthing her second child, the struggles began with digestive problems, unexplained weight loss, hormonal imbalances, hair loss, vertigo, vision changes, energy loss, cognitive issues, extreme food intolerances, and consistent abdominal pain. After meeting with specialist after specialist, test after test, even traveling and testing for weeks at some of the best clinics in the country- she was left with diagnosis that seemed to be a life sentence of medications with no hopes of healing and fulfilling a life free of symptoms. After exploring both western and naturopathic modalities she was still confused in finding a clear plan to health.

Then God opened a door when she connected with a health podcast featuring Dr Pompa. This was the turning point in Tamara’s journey. By seeing the big picture and how to heal the entire body, by finding root causes and utilizing multi therapeutic approaches Dr Pompa was able to coach Tamara to look upstream and find breakthroughs along the way. Through various techniques, removal of health obstacles, and the latest natural treatment methods, she has gained her physicality back, all but rid herself of digestive devastation, and gained a whole new perspective on living a healthy lifestyle. 2 years later, Tamara is living a disciplined but overjoying life and inspiring others to find true health.

Tamara hopes to help and encourage others searching for solutions when they are feeling hopeless like she did just 2 years ago.

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Dr. Pompa:
This is an exciting show because you’re going to hear a story, a true story of one of my clients who got her life back. If you’re someone seeking your health like I was at one point, like so many watching this, hormone imbalance, I mean, I can go down a long list of symptoms, gut issues, food intolerances, brain fog, I mean, unbelievable recovery. You have to hear this story, autoimmune of all types. I don’t remember how many autoimmune, several. She had done everything from the Mayo Clinic, saw everybody, and wait ‘til you hear the hidden causes that we found upstream. The reason I’m excited for you to watch the show is because there are some amazing surprises, and there’s a big one at the end. It’s a good one. This show is going to give you a lot of hope and this is going to be a show that you’re going to want to share. Wait ‘til you hear this life journey.

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Ashley:
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Hello, everyone. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m Ashley Smith, and today we welcome a very special guest. Her name is Tamara Jarrett, and Tamara is a client and success story of Dr. Pompa’s who utilized his multi-therapeutic approaches to gain back her health. Tamara made discoveries about her upstream sources of toxicity in her body that changed everything for her, and it made real health a priority in her life. Tamara is now living a joyful life inspiring others to find true health, and she’s here to share her story with you all today. Let’s welcome Dr. Pompa, of course, and Tamara Jarrett. Welcome!

Tamara:
Thank you.

Dr. Pompa:
All right, well, Tamara, I have been looking forward to this show because there is so many lessons in this show. You were the same person that watches Cell TV, listens to other podcasts and Cell TV, looking, seeking your health back. I mean, that was you, right? I mean, that was in fact how we found you. Is that correct? You ended up a client of mine.

Tamara:
Yep, absolutely, yeah.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, so let’s go back. You said something right before the interview. “I forget half of the things that I had going on.” I was like, okay, good because I went back and had to remind myself to the first day of when you—we had a consult. By the way, I’m virtual, so all my clients are from all over the place. I coach virtually, and so we did I’m sure the first consult over the phone. I went back and read my notes and even I was like, oh, my gosh, that’s right. I forgot all this.

Anyway, I’m just going to remind you that—you can fill in the gaps, right? Okay, so you came to me with a major complaint of—major hormone imbalance was one of the topics that you put in, and you had no period at that time for over two years, almost three years. Matter of fact, you were on bioidentical hormones at this point for three months you had said. You were playing the hormone game trying to find some balance. I don’t recall how that was working at the time, but you realized it wasn’t a long-term win. On your bloodwork, you had an increase in thyroid antibodies, so your hair was thinning, falling out. Your hands were cold. I mean, all the typical thyroid symptoms.

You had migraines and dizziness I think that was one of the big concerns for you at that point, but your gut issues I believe you had been battling for a long time doing a lot of things. You had a positive autoimmune diagnosis of your gut. You had infections on many different tests. You were diagnosed with lesions in your bile, food intolerance tests, reflux, gastroparesis was another diagnosis, meaning your food just lays there and doesn’t move. You had body aches. You had muscle weakness, numbness, tremors in your hands, brain fog, poor memory. Did I miss anything?

Tamara:
Oh, you said vision, right? I had some vision changes.

Dr. Pompa:
I missed that. You had vision changes. You did.

Tamara:
Yes, some vision changes. Oh, eczema, I had eczema. That’s one big thing. No, I think you nailed it [00:05:03].

Dr. Pompa:
Before you got to me, you were the type of person—the reason I decided to work with you because I choose specific, obviously, cases—I don’t have to work with everybody, but I also choose specific people, meaning that I could tell someone who’s just willing to do whatever it takes, and I could tell. I take someone through an interview process, and I could tell you were that person. You had already done just about everything. You had made every dietary change. Share with where you were coming to me. How did you get there?

Tamara:
Yeah, so I think, me just like everybody else in this world, we go. You get sick. You don’t feel good. You go to the doctor. I went to the doctor. To back up, I had now looking—I can go upstream later, but at the time where the floor fell out for me, I had taken an antibiotic to treat something called SIBO. It’s a small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. I was three months postpartum with my second baby and took the antibiotic. All of a sudden, just this—to treat something that was more localized to my stomach so I thought. All these symptoms started coming out. Just daily a new symptom would start of those—that long lengthy list that you just listed started spiraling out of control.

Then I would start to go to a doctor, this doctor. This doctor would refer me to another doctor. Another doctor would refer me to another doctor. All these diagnoses started coming out, but nobody was going to uncover what happened and why all those things started coming out. You get frustrated because they just want to give you this medication, this medication, this medication. You try them, and you don’t really feel a lot better.

Then I started thinking, okay, how do I get to the bottom of this? Then I thought, okay, let’s try naturopathic medicine, and by this point, I had been literally Mayo Clinic. I’d been all over my state, different doctors. They had wanted to put a PICC line in me. I forgot. This is one more thing, weight loss, extreme weight loss.

Dr. Pompa:
Oh, yeah, you weighed—when you came in, you were about 110 pounds at 5’8”.

Tamara:
Five-eight, yeah, and that was after a baby, three months after—three or four months after a baby. I just started losing a lot of weight. The doctors, they wanted to put me—put a PICC line in so I could get some nutrition. I just thought there’s got to be more to this. I was “okay” a month ago. Then I took this antibiotic, and then all this started happening. Started going into natural medicine. Even with the natural side of things, I felt like a lot of them understood a lot more on how to not just symptom treat but how to try to get a little bit more upstream, but nobody really got the big picture.

It was just a consistent research and trying to figure out how to make myself feel better because I was pretty miserable. I had stumbled upon your podcast and reading some articles and stuff. I’m like, wow, for the first time—and at this point, it’d probably been close to a year into that journey. For the first time, I felt like somebody understands every aspect of what I am going through and how I feel and how to get upstream and address the cause. If you address the cause, you remove the source. Then your body is—the innate intelligence of your body will be—will take care of the rest.

Dr. Pompa:
We’ve had a lot of success stories on Cell TV about this, and it’s always that. It’s like, look, they had been to the best. They had been here, been here, alternative, allopathic, and no one really asks the same questions you asked me, going upstream to the cause. What we mean by that because I’ve had people ask me that is that there is—if you think of a river, there’s some toxin or some stressor upstream poisoning, and all the fish are dying downstream. We’re downstream trying to put new fish in and get the algae blooms to be successful again and the microorganisms, but the problem is is 20 miles upstream we have a factory dumping mercury in. Obviously, I started asking a lot of those questions.

I mean, I think some of your toxicity—talk a little bit about your childhood. It never starts when we think. It didn’t start with when you thought it started, so tell a little bit about that because that was some of the first stuff that we really uncovered.

Tamara:
No doubt, and so obviously, all of this—really, I would say it sped up after I took the antibiotic for the SIBO, but I had SIBO first. I mean, here’s a sign that things were not right. I think a lot of people have little red flags, but they don’t associate that until it’s really unbearable.

Dr. Pompa:
That’s me. That was me. My bottom fell out, but looking back, I had little red flags along the way. Then the bottom fell out. Go ahead.

Tamara:
I think we all have a bucket, and I think my bucket started filling when I was a child. I grew up. No offense to my family, but we grew up in a rainy, moldy area. I remember constantly there being leaks in my house and my dad going and patching them up and fixing them and doing the best he could. You’d see mold in just different areas of the house and stuff, and so no doubt now and looking back that was an issue. Then my diet was definitely pretty extreme as far as in the negative. It was lots of candy, lots of sugar, lots of pop, lots of fast [00:11:11] convenient food. I was always thin to begin with, and so I would eat it and think I’m staying thin. I’m fine. There’s no big deal. That’s that mentality and mindset that—you’ve told me multiple times the skinniest—sometimes the skinniest people are the most ill, so I wholeheartedly believe that.

I would say took multiple rounds of antibiotics. I got real sick when I was real young, pneumonia several times but lots of antibiotics. That was definitely something that was my…

Dr. Pompa:
That set up your microbiome for—that set you up for the small intestinal bacteria overgrowth, meaning bacteria that shouldn’t be in your small intestine were in your small intestine. It causes bloating, chronic reflux, I mean, a lot of the symptoms that you had, obviously.

Tamara:
Like every 16, 17-year-old, you go and you get your wisdom teeth taken out. Then, after that, I remember now looking back I developed my first two autoimmune diseases, a bladder disease and then an eye disease as well. Those were red flags, once again, but I didn’t associate that at the time. You just symptom treat and get your way around them. Then I go into dental hygiene, and I was in the dental hygiene program. You’re sitting in lab with ton of other students, and everybody’s sitting there drilling out amalgam fillings because we have to practice all day long.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, and amalgam fillings have 50% mercury. You were in the lab working with it too, right?

Tamara:
Yeah, and you’re a poor college student. You don’t wear gloves, and you don’t wear a mask. You sit there and you drill. You drill it out, and you drill it out. You’re inhaling all of those aerosols. I mean, for years, we would sit in lab and do one after another after another after another practicing, and then you go into private practice. Even though I might not be directly placing it or my office might not be placing it, they are still drilling them out. That aerosol is still going. I’m ten years in my career now, so I’ve been in that environment for quite a while as well. I never had any amalgam fillings myself, but my mom did. We know that that…

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, so you got mercury there and then, obviously, a lot of mercury. The dental field statistically health-wise is the sickest profession. It leads women, girls—women who work in the dental offices, number one, infertility, hormone imbalance, which you had all that. I mean, it’s like after those babies, then you’d start—you lost your period. You weren’t able to have kids anymore, but we’re going to see that that dramatically all changes. The bottom line is you were being exposed, so we knew your heavy metals were high. I mean, I think you had some other tests before you even got to me that signified you had high heavy metals when I read through my notes, but that was a big deal.

The mold exposures were a big deal. When I looked at my notes before today just reminding myself, I had question marks. It looks like biotoxins from mold. That’s something we’re going to have to deal with. Obviously, the mercury we’re going to have to deal with. You even had some potential lead exposures. You were in some houses that were remodeled, which give off a lot of lead. I mean, right there you had some major, major, major metal exposes, mold.

Tamara:
Big ones, yeah.

Dr. Pompa:
We start into the detox, right?

Tamara:
Mm-hmm.

Dr. Pompa:
Talk about that process as we go. We had some other surprises, which we’ll get to, but talk about that, where we started.

Tamara:
Yeah, so I would say one of my biggest stomach complaints was—one of the things I loved that you say is you—let’s see. The perfect diet will not get you well, but you will not get well without the perfect diet. I felt like pulling my hair out because I would try everything under the sun. One thing would set well one day. The next day, it would make me feel awful. You can go through all sorts of things that way. There was no rhyme or…

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I mean, you had major food intolerances. When you came to me, you were eating very well because you had to, but yet, okay, it helped this, but I’m sick. To your point, the perfect diet won’t get you well, but you won’t get well without the perfect diet.

Tamara:
Exactly. Bile reflux was one of my biggest things. That was because my stomach was so slow to empty. The bile would reflux back up and cause this burning sensation. Early in the detox, we went through opening up those pathways so I could—finally, stuff would start to move and clear out of my system. I started noticing little differences with that, and then we slowly ramped up into—you go through that prep phase to get your body ready to be able to detox, which mine was very clearly unable to in the beginning. Then the body phase where you start to pull—is that how you would explain, pull from a little bit deeper tissue? Then the final, the brain phase, is where you get that mercury, and you start going after it in your brain and pulling out of the deep tissues.

Dr. Pompa:
There was some breakthroughs but then not. We were back and forth. I mean, describe that a little bit.

Tamara:
Yeah, so it was like I would get some relief. Then I would email you, okay, this symptom, this symptom, and it just kept not—I mean, from where I was, I still was gaining I would say some ground, some significant ground. I would feel a lot better for a little while, but then I would just keep going backwards, or my SIBO would keep flaring up, or some of those nagging symptoms would just—I would get a little bit of relief, and then it just would keep coming back. Then that’s where we both started putting our heads together, and we’re like, okay, so usually, in that case, you have not truly removed the source or one of the sources that’s compromising your immune system to where you just…

Dr. Pompa:
You can tell she watches a lot of my stuff. That’s exactly right. If someone’s not breaking through like we expect, there’s something else upstream. There’s a causative factor we’ve forgotten about. I looked back. I even asked you this question before the show. What made us take so long before we did something called a cone beam, which shows hidden infections in the jaw? Day one, I asked you about these hidden infections, right? I said you had wisdom teeth out, which is an indicator that you could have hidden infections which create a lot of the gut problems that don’t heal, etc. and autoimmune. Because you’re in the dental field, you assured me I didn’t—I don’t have any of those.

Tamara:
I said I floss every day. I floss twice a day. I have no issues in my mouth. I ended up watching an interview between you and Dr. Curatola, a dentist out of New York, and the lightbulb went off.

Dr. Pompa:
Episode 210, just so people—if you watch it, yeah.

Tamara:
I’m like, oh, okay, cavitations, I get it. Essentially, it’s where you take a tooth out, and they don’t plug that with bone afterwards. If your body doesn’t regenerate and fill in that socket with bone, then you have anaerobic bacteria that’s going to start hanging out down there. Those are the [gnarlies] that cause all sorts of problems, and then the tissue heals over that. Then it’s out of sight, out of mind, but your body is fighting that. That bacteria is able to go throughout the rest of your body. It’s that hidden infection, right? Over the course of time, that is in direct correlation with your bloodstream, and then you can start to have all sorts of issues from that.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, and there’s links, obviously, with hormone imbalance, cancer, I mean, all—I mean, autoimmune, obviously. There was just the movie Root Cause that got pulled off Netflix. It was a documentary based on all this, root canals and cavitations. These wisdom teeth and other teeth are extracted, how they leave behind infections with no symptoms. There’s no pain. You don’t have pain or anything.

Tamara:
No.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s why you were insistent that this is good and my X-rays are good. This is good. You can’t see these on a plain film, and they most often don’t have symptoms. Therefore, I said, okay—I started asking you more questions. Like I said, you saw the show. Then we ended up saying, okay, we have to get a cone beam, which in fact showed that your two—I think it was your two lower ones, your two lower wisdom teeth was it?

Tamara:
Mm-hmm, my two lower teeth.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, both had cavitations. You had two major cavitations.

Tamara:
Yeah, and I could see them right away. Being in the dental field, I know—once I knew what I was looking for, I knew, oh, those are going to be an issue. I just sent them to Dr. Curatola. He took a look at them, and we made a plan and so pretty cool, really. Because I’m in that, I’m interested. We went to New York, and he took care of them for me. I had him take pictures all along the way so I could see what it looked like when he got in there. He flaps that tissue back, and there’s big gaping holes, really, in your jaw so pretty amazing. He said, as he was cleaning those out, some black goop, for lack of better term I think is what he said, was just coming out of there.

I left his office afterwards, and I hadn’t taken anything at that point but broke out in hives on my thigh. It just shows what kind of a bees’ nest you’re stirring up when you go in there.

Dr. Pompa:
That’s why we have a post-protocol. Same thing happened to my wife after hers out. She had hives that broke out showing those infections were just going. Look, we could’ve treated your gut from now and for the next whatever years. You’d of still been up and down. We weren’t going to fix it until we got, again, upstream cause, what were being dumped in the river, so to speak.

There was other major symptom changes that happened, what we broke through after the cavitation surgery. There’s one more thing that I blame myself on this one, but it’s a good thing. To this day, because of you, I ask this question all the time. The doctors that I train, I say always, always, always ask this question. Don’t just expect them to write it in or etc. It’s breast implants. Now, since your time, I’ve had other women who have had breast implants and issues and autoimmune, etc., and other problems come on. We’ve done a show on it, and I think we have another one coming up but talk about that. Some amazing breakthroughs happened after you had breast implant surgery or whatever you call it, extraction.

Tamara:
Yeah, so I think, me along with about probably a large percentage of women out there, you get them, and then you don’t have symptoms or asymptomatic. You just move on. They’re out of sight, out of mind, and you don’t really think anything of it, especially when you start going through a health crisis ten years later after getting them. You just don’t even correlate at all.

Dr. Pompa:
No, of course not.

Tamara:
I had gotten those probably when I was in dental hygiene school, so just showing you how I was filling up my bucket nice and quickly so got those. When we discussed it, finally got those removed. Like I said, no symptoms whatsoever but I knew—at that point, I’m like, oh, we for sure have to take these out. I searched high and low for the right doctor to be able to take care of not only removing them but removing them correctly so you get the entire capsule. There’s a scar tissue capsule that forms around those, and that’s where a lot of that—the toxic material will hide in.

Dr. Pompa:
We had an expert say just that. You have to get to that whole capsule. I believe and you correct me if I’m wrong they found a lot of things in there. They found, obviously, bad bacteria. I think they found mold in at least one of them. Am I right on that, remembering correctly?

Tamara:
Yeah, you could visually see when I was holding it afterwards the mold inside the implant, in the valve of the implant. Then, yeah, they found—so they test it five days. They test it for two weeks after the explant, the bacteria that they scoped in the capsule. On day five, the bacteria started growing. A lot of doctors will test it right away, and then they’ll say, oh, it’s negative. No big deal. Mine started growing five days after, and that’s when she was able to come and she was—this is associated a lot of times with those autoimmune shenanigans is what she said.

Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely, just like any upstream cause. With each cause we discovered and removed, you had different symptoms that went away. With this one, you tell me when, but it was shortly after you got this done, boom, you got your period back. Was it the next month?

Tamara:
No, I literally was waking up from anesthesia. It was quite the long procedure and was waking up from anesthesia. All I could say to my husband was period cramps, period cramps over and over and over and had my period that night, and I’ve been on cycle ever since.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s incredible. I’ve had that happen with—same with women walking out of the chair after cavitation. I had a woman find amalgam underneath a crown, and she got it out. The next day, she was bleeding. She had her period, which she hadn’t had in six years. That was actually someone who worked with me. I mean, that just shows you, folks—I hope you’re hearing this. It’s like when you go upstream—Tamara had been to the best, and she was taking a lot of things. She had changed her diet. She did everything that people will do to get their life back.

These hidden things were upstream, and I could tell you, it was just peeling back these causative factors led to where you actually are now. Matter of fact, let’s tell them the next thing. Okay, so you end up getting the cavitations done. A lot of your pain and weird things disappeared after that, correct?

Tamara:
Yeah, so actually, the implants I got removed before the cavitations.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, exactly, yep.

Tamara:
I had seen a significant improvement once again in some symptoms after the implants were removed. Then I still kept saying why is my stomach—why can’t I get my gut right? I was much better. I mean, I was much more—I was able to—I think we traveled more that summer than we had in a really long time.

Dr. Pompa:
Which you would never be able to do, oh, my gosh.

Tamara:
Never. I gained a significant amount of weight. In fact, to do the reconstruction for the implants, they had to do fat grafting, which at 110 pounds would not have been possible. I was 135 at that point, so I had made some huge strides in my journey. There were still just some lingering stomach symptoms, and so that’s when we went and discovered the cavitations and stuff. We did that, and my SIBO made a night and day turnaround after the cavitations were removed.

Dr. Pompa:
Hormonally, we watched this change. Now, after the cavitations, hormonally what happened?

Tamara:
I would say definitely my cycles were super consistent. My thyroid numbers came back testing really well.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I mean, all your autoimmune—I mean, even through the detox, getting rid of heavy metals, we saw the hormones changing. Your autoimmune tests were coming back. I mean, now all of those are normal, but something even more miraculous happened. I remember the email, and you can just show the audience. Go ahead.

Tamara:
Yeah, I think somewhere in the past—oh, what was it, four months or so? I sent you an email. It was right after we had a conversation. It’s years, not months, right? I’m still on this journey, and I’m still working to detox. I love it. I work for my kids. I’m working my kids.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, you learned enough from me to do it with your kids. I mean, that’s my goal is to teach you the process. It’s years, not months [00:28:08].

Tamara:
Exactly, and I enjoy feeling better. We just had set a new protocol. We were going to do this new thing. I started having some symptoms, and I told my husband. I said I think you need to go to the store and get a pregnancy test, and he’s looking at me wide-eyed. Took a pregnancy test and it was positive, and we were definitely not trying. I should have mentioned too, my first pregnancy, they told me I would never get—be able to be pregnant without the fertility medicine and stuff like that. I was struggling to get pregnant with my first two. I had a miscarriage in there, had very difficult pregnancies with both my…

Dr. Pompa:
Again, common for people who work in dental offices.

Tamara:
Yeah, well, it’s lots of issues in my pregnancies, lot of complications getting pregnant, miscarriages, and then this pregnancy, yeah, it’s been…

Dr. Pompa:
Stand up. That’s where you’re at. I’m going to make you do it. Look, there she is, right there, yeah. That’s the first I saw that in the beginning. It’s awesome.

Tamara:
This pregnancy, really honestly, I don’t want to jinx anything, but it’s gone the best so far out of my three.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I mean, it’s an expression of health. I mean, of course—I mean, all those things that we talked about in the beginning there, you have your brain back. I mean, there’s so many. I didn’t even remember. Like I said, as I wrote them down, I was like, oh, my gosh, I forgot how sick you were. Remember when I saw you in New York. I actually saw you at Gerry’s office. I spoke to you over the phone. It was a virtual relationship.

Then Merily and I saw you and your husband. I was like, oh, my gosh! It was like you were—oh, she’s so cute. You were just different than what I thought. You were bubbling with excitement because you just came out of the thing.

Tamara:
Like I said, I finally was able to—I mean, we’ve traveled a lot. We’ve done things that I would’ve never ever been…

Dr. Pompa:
You were like, “We just walked.” You walked for days around New York. You’re like, “Dr. Pompa, I would never be able to do this.”

Tamara:
I probably cheated a little bit on my diet as well, but I was able to tolerate it better than I would’ve ever in the past. Yeah, it’s a horrible place to have jaw surgery, though.

Dr. Pompa:
It’s true. Come on, man, I’ve done that so many times with my wife. It’s like I’m in New York. It’s like all the good food. It’s like are you kidding me?

Tamara:
Next time I go back, I will be…

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s what I keep saying. I just want to go without having to see Gerry except on a social level. Gerry’s the dentist, Episode 210. Anyway, yeah, no, I mean, look, I thought—the reason I wanted to have you on is because your story just tells how important it is to go upstream. So many people watching this show, I mean, they’re like you and I. I mean, I was you too, right? I mean, I was searching and seeking to get my health back. I mean, I was a health seeker. We look here. We look there.

How did I get my life back? How did you get your life back? Hundreds and thousands of not just myself but the doctors I train, how did they get their lives back? We get to the cause. There’s no other way. I feel that functional medicine is becoming more popular because of the failures of standard allopathic medicine just pushing more drugs, and there’s a time and a place. The criticisms not too deep there, but with chronic conditions like that you had, that I had, and so many people watching this have, it’s not the answer.

The problem is is that they’re going to functional medicine. The doctors are running a lot of expensive tests and putting people on a lot of supplements. There’s nothing wrong with supplements, except that you have to get upstream to the cause. That was the difference in your case, right?

Tamara:
Yeah.

Dr. Pompa:
You’d still be sick with all the same issues if we didn’t dig for these causative factors.

Tamara:
We had to go deep and just keep peeling an onion back. With every layer that we peeled back, I just—I kept getting more and more results. I am forever grateful. I would agree. I would not be sitting here. I would not be having another baby that…

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s awesome, and that was a part of it too. I was like, gosh, your story just gives people so much hope. Again, you went through so much and now you’re—you just express health.

Tamara:
Yeah, well, and I had—when I started this spiral downward, I had a 3-month-old little boy. It’s been a very difficult journey, two little rambunctious kids and feeling like that. Now he’s 3, going on 3½ , and I’m able to apply—I’m thankful. I’m so thankful for it. A), I’m a totally different person now than I was and look at life differently. I’m able to look at my kids and go, okay, let’s—we all know that they get their mother [00:33:20]. I knew it was only a matter of time before they started expressing that, and they have. I’ve been able to work them through little protocols and stuff that are manageable for their body size.

My 3½-year-old, the one that was a little—a baby when I sick, he didn’t talk. He didn’t talk, I mean, not even hardly momma or dada until over 2. He was over 2 before—and everybody was concerned. At that point, I started—at that point, it was far enough into my journey where I started feeling confident enough to detox him, and so I started detoxing him. After every single detox I did, more and more started coming out of him as far as—like I said, he’s 3 and 3 months, and he can recite the United States in alphabetical order. I mean, he is—it’s night and day. It’s night and day.

Dr. Pompa:
That makes me feel so good right there. I say this to everybody that I coach. Look, I’m not going to treat you. I’m going to teach you the process because it is years, not months. If you learn the process, therein lies the power. Doctors are treating people. With these chronic conditions, you don’t need treat it. It’s a failure. You have to [00:34:41] the process. To hear how that—and this is the way it works. To hear how that went down into your kids and the family, it’s just—man, it’s a different paradigm of what medicine is doing right now, even alternative, honestly.

I want to do something different. I’m going to bring Ashley on who starts the show and then sits silently. I feel like I want Ashley to—maybe she has some questions she wants to ask you. I feel like, if I were the person sitting out there, gosh, what would I want to ask while I have you? Ashley, what are some questions that you would ask? I mean, you’re the average lay person out there. What would you ask Tamara?

Ashley:
Yeah, it is so fascinating. I speak to so many women who are dealing with so many hormonal issues, and they really just don’t know where to begin. I guess my first question would be what would be the first thing you would tell somebody to do if it’s a female who just loses her period? I guess that would be a start. That would be a symptom. Their periods just are irregular, or they can’t get pregnant. Where do you think the first thing they—place they should look would be?

Tamara:
I definitely think looking—you got to look upstream, like we’ve said. Those major things would be hidden infections, Doctor, would you say, hidden infections, mercury, so metals, heavy metals, any kind of heavy metal? Mold would be another one or a lot of times too parasites.

Dr. Pompa:
Tell some of your parasite stories very quickly. I mean, we had some drama there.

Tamara:
Yeah.

Dr. Pompa:
Again, this is what alternative medicine—they treat just the parasites. When I taught you, parasites are just a downstream just like candida effect. There’s something upstream allowing the parasites. We want to kill the parasites, but if that’s the end of our treatment, we’re dead in the water. You did a lot of parasite treatments.

Tamara:
Yeah, no, I definitely—I did a lot of parasite treatments. I had gotten sick in Mexico between my SIBO time where I took that antibiotic and when I was in dental school or freshly graduating from dental. I know you fill your bucket up so full, and then, all of a sudden, it allows for those opportunistic infections to take hold. That’s where you’ll hear a lot of people and especially in the natural side saying, oh, I have X, Y, and Z as far as these little opportunistic infections, H. pylori or parasites. Until you deal with that upstream, you’re not going to take care of the downstream, the parasites, those things that are just able to live and survive because your immune system is so compromised so definitely looking at those big guys. Implants with women is so common. Looking upstream and finding those things, I think it’s got to be the first place to start, and I’m a perfect example. We were only able to get so far in my treatment until we scratched our heads and said what else are we missing? We had to keep going back to the drawing board and finding those things that we were missing.

Ashley:
Yeah, definitely.

Dr. Pompa:
Anything else?

Ashley:
Also working with somebody who understands that there might be things that are missing as well. I’m sure it could be really frustrating when people work with practitioners who do a lot of testing and they say you’re fine. There’s nothing there.

Tamara:
Yeah, no doubt, and it’s very hard when you have friends and colleagues going through struggles. You see it. You don’t know all the answers, but you know there’s so much more to it. It is such a—I mean, it’s an exhausting, long, drawn out process to truly get your health back. Like he said, I had to do just about everything. Pull out every stop that I possibly could to make it happen. When you’re really sick and miserable, you will do just about anything.

Dr. Pompa:
Tamara and I, we tell the story, and we make it sound like, oh, it was so easy. I mean, there is so much emotion along the way. I mean, I could even feel it from your husband when I met him actually in person in Gerry’s office. He was just so elated. “We were able to walk around New York, Dr. Pompa.” It was like that type of emotion because you realize what you’ve been through.

I think you were telling me an emotional story. Okay, you were underweight. Of course, you eat this perfect diet, and your friends were thinking you were just this anorexic, eating too overboard. People just don’t understand. When I was sick, I hid it from people because people just don’t get it, man. It’s a sad thing.

Tamara:
Yeah, it’s definitely a lot easier being on the other side of it and having those conversations now, but when you’re in it, especially in the very beginning when you’re so confused and you have no direction, it’s the most depressing . It’s the most depressing thing. Then you have people tell you you’re depressed, and that’s your problem.

Dr. Pompa:
No, I had that, yep.

Tamara:
Of course I’m depressed because I feel like this, and nobody seems to understand. Nobody can relate, especially your friends. God really blessed me. I guess I should definitely mention God in this. I’m 100% confident He’s who led me to you, and He’s who has sustained me throughout this entire process. I’ve had some amazing, amazing support, my friends through this, and one gal, who is a friend of my mom’s, when I was down at the Mayo Clinic early in my journey, she reached out to me. She’s just prayer warrior, and she has messaged me to this day multiple times a day for three and a half years just inspirational text messages.

Dr. Pompa:
That’s awesome.

Tamara:
It’s people like that that I don’t think they realize how big of an impact they really truly make in somebody’s life when they’re going through something this big but forever grateful, forever grateful for that.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, my wife and I pray all the time for God to send us the ones we can help and the ones He wants us to help. I thank God for those opportunities, honestly. I mean, if I didn’t get sick, I wouldn’t have been able to help you. How many people are you impacting, even just with this show? People watching, from pain to purpose, I mean, honestly, it’s—I do these shows just because there’s hope. God can use it. God will use your battles, the hard stuff in our life to make us better in so many ways, and you just testified to that today.

Tamara, it takes a lot of guts to come on the show. I always make light of it. It’s just a conversation, but it still takes a lot of guts. Thank you for being on the show, honestly, and sharing your story. It’s hard.

Tamara:
It’s easy to talk about because I am so passionate about it now. I know so many people in this journey, and after seeing me get to the other side of it, so many people have reached out to me and want help. No doubt, I know that in my future I will try to get a platform where I can help more people.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I mean, honestly, if you had a platform right now, I’d be saying give people your website or your whatever. I mean, you’re welcome to do that or not. I don’t want to inundate you. You need to have some type of blog or something. People want to reach out to you. I’m sure they want to talk to you.

Tamara:
Yeah, no, I definitely—it was on the plan. Then God obviously had a different plan. He’s like you’re going to have another baby first.

Dr. Pompa:
It’s true. Yeah, you got to have your baby first.

Tamara:
Still working on the details, I guess. I don’t know.

Dr. Pompa:
Look, you’re called to it. You’re a warrior in it. I can’t wait to see what God does in your life with it. I’m sure you’ll end up at my seminars one day like so many people that I’ve helped have been, right, Ash? Aren’t they?

Ashley:
Oh, yeah, you have to make it to one.

Dr. Pompa:
They’re giving their testimony. They’re coming. Now we’re even having—we’re certifying the public in some things. There’s so many warriors like you and people that just want to share their story from not just myself but the doctors I train who have been helped that they want to do this, from pain to purpose, and they want to help people now. Thanks again, Tamara, and I know that we’re going to see you in the future so thanks.

Tamara:
Awesome. Thank you so much.

Ashley:
Thank you.

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