Are we focusing too much on gut health? Probiotics, pre-biotics, enzymes, elimination diets… everyone these days seems to be “healing their gut.” but what exactly does that mean?
One thing I love to teach my doctors is that you have to fix the brain to fix the gut. Many of us know that your gut is your second brain, and the gut brain connection is very real. Are we doing this whole “gut healing” thing wrong?? You bet.
You’ll hear why in this episode!
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Dr. Daniel Pompa is a global health leader and innovator on a mission to educate practitioners and the public on the origins of inflammation-driven disease, cellular detoxification, fasting strategies, and diet variation principles. Although trained as a Chiropractor, his authority comes from the victory within his own battle, having overcome neurotoxic illness that was rooted in heavy metal poisoning.
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Hello, everyone. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m Ashley Smith, and today we have a special episode that is focused about the gut. Are we focusing too much on gut health? From probiotics to prebiotics and enzymes, everyone these days seems to be healing their gut. What exactly does that mean? One thing that I have learned from Dr. Pompa is that you have to fix the brain to fix the gut. Many of us know that your gut is your second brain, and the gut-brain connection is a very real thing. Dr. Pompa, welcome. Are we doing this whole gut healing thing wrong? Can you please educate us?
Yeah, it’s remarkable how many people have gut issues today. It’s practically everybody. It’s really caught on. It’s in vogue right now. Fix the gut, gut, gut, gut, especially in our alternative space. It’s become the microbiome. The gut has become all the talk. You can’t do this unless you fix the gut. You can’t do that. You can’t detox until you fix the gut. It’s all gut.
Now, look, I will be the first to say how important gut is. It’s part of my three-legged stool how important the microbiome is. However, I can tell you from experience that the pendulum shifts all the way too far when somehow it has to come back to a medium where we forgot about something so important in this conversation. This is still the first brain. The gut is the second. My point is this, when we look at all of the failures right now and I’ve talked about, if it were just so simple to take a probiotic and fix your gut and affect your immune system, hey, we wouldn’t be here. We would all be better. It’s not so simple, so that’s one message that I put out there a lot lately. The other one is that we can’t fix the gut until ultimately we fix this brain, the first brain, and I think that’s what people forgot about.
Look, my profession, a chiropractic profession gets it. The innate intelligence, this runs everything through the central nervous system and out to every cell in the body. This intelligence that God put there, we call it innate, meaning inborn intelligence, and this controls it all. As a matter of fact, when we look at the cells, this brain was the first thing – divide into a cell. The spinal cord that runs down our back and all the nerves to every organ and tissue in the body carries that innate intelligence, but this brain was the very first thing to form. That little tail came off of it. All the nerves came out, and from those nerves, all the organs grew. Those cells were ultimately being developed, created from the intelligence that the very first cells made, the brain.
Ultimately, if you just think of that, then we would go, well, ultimately, then if that’s what created—if God designed it that the brain forms first and then it grew a little tail, which is our spinal cord, and all the nerves grew and then from the nerves developed the organs, that’s—honestly, that’s how it happens. Then, ultimately, the healing must happen here first too. The innate intelligence is here. The point is, unless we fix this and we’ll talk more about that, how do you fix your gut? I argue that you can’t.
That’s fascinating. What if people are like but I don’t have brain issues? It’s just my gut. I am bloated all the time. I can’t digest food, but my brain feels fine.
See, again, the brain has no pain. Literally, we can cut your skull cap off. They do this, by the way, open it up, and we can probe areas of the brain. You’d go, oh, I feel that in my left toe. I feel that here. Oh, I have pain in my liver. Okay, so every part of the brain represents things, and you wouldn’t feel it.
Literally, we can then—I can poke your brain. You don’t feel it, so you don’t know you have brain toxicity. You don’t know you have brain inflammation, well, unless you hit your head so hard your brain shifts and it inflames. Now it’s pushing on all of the vascular, all of the nerves, and now you might know it. Then it would create maybe a headache. The brain itself doesn’t know when it has a problem, but yet, it controls every bit of healing in the body.
Look, when you cut your finger, you don’t put eyeballs—you don’t re-heal it with eyeballs there or eyeball cells. No, the innate intelligence knows exactly what cells because it’s in constant communication with every cell and tissue in the body organizing, fascinating. Here’s how fascinating it is. If you take these two fingers and sew them together—okay, I don’t recommend trying this at home, but this is a study that was actually done. Okay, at first, when you touch this finger, you feel, oh, that’s my ring finger. Okay, that’s my middle finger.
It has separate nerves that run to separate parts of the brain. After a while, your brain, you touch this finger, and you go, oh no, that’s just this finger. Now, they still are running separate nerves to the brain. However, it’s so darn smart that it rewires in the brain that this is now a finger. See, nerves that fire together wire together, meaning the brain re-circuits it, reorganizes it, so now you’re operating one finger is two. I mean, that’s how incredibly smart it is.
Another great example, if you chop your arm off—don’t try that at home. Better to talk about amputees, right? Let’s say you got your arm or leg amputated because of cancer, and it was horrifically painful. Take the arm out. It’s called phantom pain. Your brain is still registering that there’s a pain and there’s a problem. Here’s the good news. You can literally rewire your brain to not feel the pain anymore, and they’ve learned to rewire the brain by literally—it’s a crazy thing by putting the arm in a box and letting your brain know that that arm’s not there anymore. Anyways, there’s different things that they do so we can reprogram the brain, rewire the brain. Then the pain actually goes away, crazy, but that’s how it works.
That’s fascinating. People at home, they’re thinking, well, but I have SIBO. I have candida, and I have leaky gut. They’re maybe taking some supplements that might sort of be helping, but they’re not getting all the way there. What would you say the next step for them would be?
Look, I think we have to examine the biggest epidemic of why people don’t feel well today, and that is neurotoxicity. These are certain toxins that attack our nerves, our nerve system. The biggest group of nerves is the brain, so ultimately, they make their way into the brain, whether it’s mercury, lead, other heavy metals. Biotoxins affect the center of the brain. All of these types of toxins affect the brain. When I talk about detox, I say, look, the goal is to teach somebody how to do a proper brain phase. That’s different for everybody, the doses, what we do, and that’s a big part of obviously what I teach, how to detox the brain correctly. I would never say I have all the answers. However, we are utilizing a system that is I believe the only system that truly does it effectively and safely, but if we can remove the neurotoxins, remove the interference, the very intelligence that made the body will heal the body.
Now, there is a nerve that comes from the brain called the vagus nerve, and it doesn’t go in our spine like a lot of the other nerves. It bypasses and goes straight to all of our organs, including the gut. It runs what we call the parasympathetic nerve system, and that’s how you digest. That’s how your gut has mobility and moves and pushes things through. What more and more studies are showing and they’re literally calling it vagal nerve toxicity is that, yes, your brain is toxic, but so is the vagus nerve. Now, probably at the source—and there’s new research being done on this, but if we don’t remove and free that intelligence traveling through the vagus nerve, you don’t have normal gut motility. You won’t ever fix your gut. It will continue to inflame.
As a matter of fact, all of the toxins—because it shuts down your detox pathways when this nerve is poisoned, now you build up more toxins. Oh, and guess where they end up? Via the liver dumped into your gut, creating more inflammation, more leaky gut, which is causing the food intolerances and everyone’s taking food intolerance tests, running from different foods, nightshades, oxalates, lectins, all those anti-lectin diets. They’re in vogue right now when we should be running from these things. We should be fixing the problem. When we look at this connection of the brain to the gut via the vagus nerve, we realize that we’re not getting normal peristalsis. Yes, constipation’s a factor. Yes, SIBO’s a factor, but we only can improve that peristalsis by improving the brain connection to the gut. You’ll never fix the microbiome when your detox pathways are backed up, and you’re dumping toxins in the gut. How are you going to fix the microbiome? You see, we have it backwards instead of we need to be focused here first, and then our strategies here will work.
That’s fascinating. Would you say that doing—taking gut supplements let’s say somebody claims is making them feel better. Would you say stay on them if they’re helping but also address your brain, or do you just say maybe just cut out all of the gut supplements for a little while and focus [00:11:19]?
That’s a great question. I would say if you feel they’re helping stay on them. Look, I am a big proponent and this is one of my gut principles as well is you have to rotate bacteria. People stay on the same probiotic, and you end up causing something called monoculture where you build up too much of that, and you end up with a new problem. You don’t think it’s the probiotics that were the—are the problem because they helped you, and you’re still taking them. It’s like when people get on a diet, and they’re rock solid in their vegetarian diet. It helped me in the beginning, yes, but now it’s actually hurting you.
The fact is is that you may need to rotate those bacteria, but if something is working, stay on it. Ultimately, I think you would agree if you’re listening and you’re that person that I don’t have a lasting effect here. I’m still not ultimately better. Ultimately, we know that, fixing autoimmune, we have to fix the microbiome. It’s part of my three-legged stool, for goodness sakes. I’m making the argument that we have to think different.
It’s one of my goals this year is to reeducate doctors, bringing them back to this has to be the focus and, of course, upstream, getting rid of the toxins. Getting rid of the toxins here, getting that vagal connection back to the gut ultimately will bring the innate intelligence, and ultimately, that can heal the gut. That can reduce the inflammation. That could stop the leaky gut instead of having to avoid lectins and nightshades. We want to go above that to the big problem. Your body knows how to heal. We just don’t give it credit. We just forget it can, but we have to remove the interference.
It’s great. You always know how to bring it back to the brain, which is why you’re so good at what you do. I know you mentioned cutting—people, to have them cut out lectins and nightshades. There are people doing carnivore diets, and they’re claiming it’s healing their gut. How do you feel about elimination diets when it comes to the gut?
Yeah, look, I mean, I think that there’s a time and a place to eliminate things. I mean, come on, if something’s irritating you, avoid it. I don’t want people to look at that as the solution. It’s like you don’t look at crutches as the solution to why your leg’s going to heal. No, you’re just getting around so you can function while your leg is healing. I ask the question, what’s healing your leg? Is it the cast? No, that’s just keeping you from irritating it while the innate intelligence heals it.
See, your brain knows exactly what cells stimulate stem cells, things called exosomes. All of the healing takes place. It folds proteins in your cells. Those proteins are shipped on out to the healing injury, and it starts to remodel calcium. It starts to remodel the tissue around it, all of that innate intelligence that no doctor can create that, but we only wanted to use the crutches while our innate intelligence was healing the fracture or whatever is wrong with the leg. No different than the gut.
I think that elimination diets can be crutches. I think probiotic can even be crutches to some degree, but it’s okay. The point is is that to have a lasting result we ultimately have to get this to heal this, and that’s the missing link.
Yeah, that’s fascinating. Getting back to the vagal nerve, which I love that topic, we’ve done a few episodes on the vagus nerve, and I think it’s just—it’s fascinating. It really is. There are some exercises people can do to strengthen their vagus nerve. There’s essential oils that we actually really like that we’ve used before. Do you think that that can be really helpful when trying to turn on that gut-brain connection again?
Yeah, I mean, we know that, for example, there are certain gut symptoms when happening. If you gargle, literally, it’s a vagal stimulation. It can be very helpful. The oils, we did a show. They make a parasympathetic blend that works fantastic, especially when you rub it right over the vagus area, which is right about here. However, again, it’s all for nothing if we don’t deal with the big problem, and that’s the neurotoxic issue in the brain that drives this message through the vagus nerve, and again, these neurotoxins make their way around something called myelin sheath. It’s a fatty covering on the nerve to protect it. They go around it, and they cause dysfunction. Again, the innate intelligence is here. It can heal, but we have to get that innate intelligence down to the area, in this case the gut. Then it will bring intelligence into those cells, and then those cells will absolutely start to heal and regenerate.
The question always needs to be asked what is the interference? That’s when we look at these big neurotoxic sources that people aren’t considering. Heavy metals, typically, we go—people go, oh, yeah, I did heavy metal detox at three months when, meanwhile, there’s mercury, lead, who knows, aluminum deep into their brain tissue creating massive interference in this innate intelligence. Biotoxins I mentioned for mold, different pathogens in the brain, hypothalamus. It controls your hormones, totally disruptive, typically not dealt with correctly, hidden infections from the mouth, this microbiome, crossing the blood-brain barrier, driving more inflammation in the brain, more dysfunction, not being able to heal the rest of the body, and then symptoms stack on symptoms.
Yeah, I mean, you’re known for cellular detox. Your audience knows that by now, especially based on even the title of the show. I know everyone else has heard of your multi-therapeutic approach, so it’s not just about the cell detox. What else should people be doing in conjunction with that?
Yeah, I mean, we did a really helpful show. You’ll put the link here for that show as well. I think from this show—going from this show to watch that, you’ll go, oh, this is why we’re getting sick. It is a multi-therapeutic approach that ultimately—I describe it in that show, but ultimately, I describe it as a three-legged stool. Certain genes do get triggered epigenetically, but we could turn those off if we remove the stressors. That’s another leg of the stool. Of course, that’s what I’m talking about here. What are these neurotoxic sources that trigger genes, create all this nerve dysfunction? Then we also have this microbiome communication with the brain that is an issue. What I’m saying is is, hey, part of fixing that gut is fixing this.
How do you feel about gut testing? You briefly mentioned it earlier but just gut where they tell you what foods you can and can’t eat or just if you have certain bacteria. What is your take on [00:18:34]?
Again, I wish it were so simple. I think we’ve done a lot with these tests over the years, but one of the things I can honestly say is—I don’t know. It is one of—it’s not so simple to identify these set of bacteria when we have identified maybe 3,000 bacteria in the gut. I think we’ll identify 3,000 more in the next 5 years, but it’s way more complicated than we thought with—how viruses work within the gut is a very important role, funguses, candida. All of this is just absolutely beyond our comprehension still.
My point is this, we run a test. We go, oh, these guys are too high. These guys are too low. Ultimately, see, we’re taking the intelligence out, and it’s not so simple to say, oh, okay, according to this test, we’re only really testing for a fraction of what’s in the gut. Let’s give you this. Let’s kill these guys. It’s not so simple. The bottom line is I can tell you clinically that we really haven’t changed, moved the needle in how we have healed the gut because of the microbiome testing. I wish it weren’t the case, but we’re just not there yet.
Right, I know. I wish it were so simple. I know people sometimes want a test just so they have a metric to gauge. How about testing the brain? Do you like heavy metal tests? Do you like mold tests? Say I live in a—I don’t know, maybe a flooded home a few years ago. Should I test to make sure I should even proceed with detox, or should I just detox?
Look, I mean, there’s some testing to give us ideas. You can do a visual contrast sensitivity test that gives you an idea if you have a biotoxic illness from mold. There’s rows A, B, C, D, and E. Not to teach this right now, but rows C and D are very specific for mold. Row E is general toxicity. When people fail that miserably, it typically eludes to a heavy metal toxicity. You can go to—and it’s not as accurate as the one that doctors do in the office, but you can go to VCS, stands for visual contrast sensitivity, VCSTest.com, and it at least gives you an idea. Look, heavy metal testing, it gives you an idea of what’s in the body, but it doesn’t reflect what’s in the brain. The only way to really do that would be biopsy, and I’m not recommending it. The point is is there’s no perfect test for that either. It’s very, very difficult.
You know this; one of the things I train my doctors to do is be very clever as really sleuthing out these hidden sources, being a detective and really asking the right questions. If you put a very good history together with someone’s symptoms, usually you can say, okay, I think you’ve missed this, and then maybe we’ll run this particular test to verify. Again, you can’t just rely on a test, again, if it were only so simple. It’s just not. It’s just not.
Exactly, so you hear a lot. Even in this space, you might listen to somebody on a podcast, and they say, if you have seasonal allergies, it’s about your gut. If your kid is misbehaving, it could be their gut, and you just have to do gut healing. They never really say what that means. They just say heal your gut. Maybe they’re putting you on colon cleanse or telling you to take an enzyme or a probiotic, but it’s fascinating that, really, it’s not totally about the gut directly. It’s about the brain.
Yeah, 100%, and again, I don’t dismiss any of those comments. I agree that the gut will affect ADHD. I agree that the gut affects your immune system, of course. What we’ve learned in the research on the microbiome is these bacteria are communicating with our cells, changing epigenetics of it, can change our DNA. Here’s what you have to understand, that although that’s true and although it is absolutely true that the gut plays such an important role in immunity, in how the brain works, all of it, the point, though, has to be taken that we don’t fix that until we fix this. That’s the point.
Now, if you take these bacteria out of the gut, away from this innate intelligence, put them in a petri dish, now—with your cells, now what good is this? No good at all. Now they can’t even do anything with those cells. The intelligence isn’t there. This intelligence isn’t there. The life force that God put in our bodies isn’t there. It’s not the bacteria, the bacteria working with our cells at our DNA in our body only because the intelligence is driving it. We forgot about that when we realized, oh, my gosh, these bacteria, they’re doing so much. They’re communicating with our cells. They have this function. They make certain peptides and amino acids that our brain needs to make neurotransmitters, and we can’t make neurotransmitters without these bacteria.
All that’s true, but the fact is is it’s—the bacteria in themselves, it’s not the case. It’s the innate intelligence telling, directing the bacteria, using them as it may so, again, the innate intelligence, not the bacteria. The bacteria, yeah, they have an intelligence, but it’s ultimately our intelligence that’s superior. If we can open up that God-given innate intelligence, I’m telling you, I believe the body can heal from anything. When we hear these miracle stories that that shouldn’t heal, that shouldn’t, what did it?
I mean, listen, my son—I tell a story. My son shattered his spleen, literally, I mean, gone. I saw the scan with the doctor, and he showed me the pieces. I said, “Well, we’re going to have to take it out.” He said, “No, it’s a grade 5. The body just absorbs them. That’s it.” I said, “Is there any way it could regenerate itself?” “Oh, no, it can’t. It’s gone, everything.” Okay, so I was like, “All right.”
Here’s what happened six months later. We went in. Now, there’s a lot of prayer over this, so I give God the credit and the glory for this, no doubt. We went in six months later, and they were doing the rescan to see how his organs healed. My son was in ICU. They Life Flighted him off the slope so a lot of trauma. They redid the scan, and the doctor comes out. He has a look on his face.
I say, “Is everything okay?” He said, “Yeah, he has a full spleen.” I said, “Is it functioning?” He said, “Yeah.” My next question was, “Are you sure you looked at the right scan?” We’ve all done that as doctors. It’s like, oh, this is your X-ray. That’s not my X-ray. He said, “Yeah, checked three times.” They check all their facts to make sure it’s not labeled wrong. There’s little things you look for so you know it’s the same person.
“Yep,” I said, “How did that happen?” “I have no idea.” Now, again, God did it. I believe that. He said, “That’s the only thing I can see explained.” My wife said we had all these people praying. The point is is that there is an innate intelligence that God put in our bodies, that God utilized and activated that healing, the body’s innate intelligence through the nerve system. It grew another spleen.
Yeah, it’s unbelievable. In another unbelievable fashion, you have another son who went through a major traumatic event where he was pretty much told he was never going to walk again because he broke his back.
Most of you know the story, but he jumped off a cliff 50 feet, hit rock. He should’ve died. That was the first miracle. Second miracle, he should’ve been paralyzed. The bones moved forward, not back into the cord, but they shattered completely. They looked at it and said, “He needs surgery. We need to do it within this many hours,” dah, dah, dah. I asked for 24 hours to research it.
Long story short, we decided, Daniel and I because he was an adult, that we’re not going forth. They thought we were nuts. They’re coming from the anterior. They were taking two vertebrae completely out, taking the bones, putting them in metal cages, fusing six vertebrae. I mean, imagine this for life, and I know this causes autoimmune later, etc., etc. They didn’t understand our paradigm, and the impossible that they said would happen happened. His innate intelligence healed it.
Now, listen, a thousand of a thousand people I’m sure would’ve listened to the doctors because of the fear. What made us not? Number one, I mean, I did have the ability to get into some studies, and that’s another story. The difference is is I know the body’s incredible ability to heal itself. That’s why even with the whole thing that’s going on right now—not to get us shut down by using words, it begins with a C. The fact is is that we as a family were like, hey, we need to be exposed to this, sooner the better. Our innate intelligence will build natural true immunity, and because this will be around for years to come, we will be able to absolutely deal with it from our innate intelligence down.
I function and I teach my children this and my doctors, function, major premise, God designed our bodies to heal. Let’s give it some more credit, and that’s what we’re not doing today.
Absolutely, yeah, it’s fascinating. It really is. A lot of people know that the gut can be damaged, of course, even by things like antibiotics. We go on lots of antibiotics as children or glyphosate and environmental pollutants. I mean, how many grown adults would you say walk around with leaky gut, whether they know it or not (pretty high percentage)? Just in the interim, what are your favorite things to nurture the gut and to help seal that leaky gut while you’re also addressing the upstream?
I think you’re right. I think that’s a great idea. Number one, as far as bacteria goes, some bacteria that most people have never experienced are things like spore or soil organisms, which act more like prebiotics to stimulate even your other bacteria to come alive. Prebiotics, feeding your existing bacteria often times work better than probiotics. Rotating any bacteria is another big clue, a product called LGUT that seals the gut, a product called ION that helps seal the gut and decrease inflammation. Butyrate, butyric acid helps lower inflammation and act as a prebiotic feeding the gut. I’m just throwing out some of my favorite products to answer your question. I’m sure I’ve missed some. I’m not giving an exhaustive list, but I mean, those are some things that I think are extremely helpful and maybe some things that people haven’t done that will be a big help.
Yeah, and fasting, fasting [00:29:38].
Again, I was thinking product when you asked the question. One of the big things that I teach is diet variation. Changing your diet adds a stress to the microbiome that actually creates diversity in your bacteria. We could never fix a gut without that and fasting, feast-famine. We fast. We feast. That stresses the gut, stresses how we change that diversity in the microbiome. I think we talked about that more on that other show when we broke down that multi-therapeutic approach.
You know what? I want to mention one more thing, the upper cervical. A lot of chiropractors watch this show. When you get severely physically misaligned—and again, part of my multi-therapeutic approach, adjustments in the upper cervical spine can transform the communication between this intelligence, this brain and the rest of your body. Look, we’ve watched miracles happen when people get that upper cervical adjusted, open up that innate intelligence, so that is absolutely a part of what it takes too to fix a gut. Check your physical misalignment. You could’ve been in an accident, had a head trauma, birth trauma, any of it. You could be physically interfering with that innate intelligence. It’s huge.
It is huge. It’s just a piece of the puzzle, for sure. Then we’ve had other shows even on neurofeedback, and there’s a brain tapping device. How do you feel about implementing stuff like that as well?
I think it’s huge. I said that, how the brain rewires itself. Through thought, we can rewire the brain. I’m going to be teaching more on this, but it’s a whole different show. We’re going to do a whole different show on that. There are so many techniques and I’m studying them now to how we rewire the brain. Literally, I’m going back into history, reading some of the forefathers of what we call neuroplasticity. That means that the brain can change. In the old days, they thought it couldn’t change, but now we know that it actually goes around. If someone has a stroke and damages even huge parts of the brain, through different strategies, we can actually go around and regain what we thought was never to be regained, and it’s fascinating. Yes, it could get someone to walk again, and there’s story after story, or reuse their arm, or whatever it is, but we can also use the same strategies to fix things that were unfixable.
I had chemical sensitivity and mold sensitivity in the past, but I had to learn how to rewire my limbic system. That’s the system that keeps us alive. It was cross-wired into this survival mechanism, driving sympathetic and symptoms. I had to re-cross—I had to basically rewire it, and I fixed the problem. Now, that wouldn’t have been possible if I didn’t get the neurotoxins out of my brain first, but then once I did, then I was able to rewire that. That’s a missing part of a lot of people’s puzzle into their journey into healing.
Yeah, that’s great. This is fascinating. I could talk about the gut and the brain all day with you. I think this is going to be really helpful for people. Yeah, this is wonderful. We’ll definitely link to some of the other episodes we referenced and some of the products that Dr. Pompa mentioned as well. Do you have any final words?
Yeah, no, look, always the—we have to think about things differently, and therein the solution lies. What makes me do it is when we’re going, gosh, we’re just getting nowhere here. Maybe, just maybe we’re thinking about it wrong, and I love thinking about it differently and, God willing, coming up with a new answer. Stay tuned for the brain rewiring because I think it’s a big part of this, even the gut healing, so stay tuned for that show.
Absolutely, well, thank you so much, and I’m excited for everybody to hear this amazing information. All right, bye-bye.
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