383: The Answer to Mold

Due to great demand based on your comments, questions, and responses, I am welcoming back Mike Adams – who has been a mold remediation expert for the better half of 2 decades. Mike (and a couple of special guests) are here today to share some amazing testimonials of the magic of his unique dry fogging technique that his company Pure Maintenance is using to ultimately give you your health back.

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Mike is the founder and Chief operating Officer of Pure Maintenance. He has been involved in mold remediation for 15 plus years. During that time, he has patented a piece of equipment and a process to rid homes of mold, toxins, and bacteria.

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Dr. Pompa:
Brain fog, low energy, all of a sudden, you can’t lose weight, hormone resistance, I just don’t feel well. I talk about three hidden causes. This show is one of the three, but more importantly, we bring an answer to mold. That is one of the three. We bring an answer, a very inexpensive answer that myself and the doctors that I train around the country have been utilizing now.

As a matter of fact, this is the second episode because this episode, you hear real stories. We’ve changed a lot of lives with this technology. I wanted to bring you a second show and dig deeper into the details of why this is an answer for so many who weren’t able to go back into a home, or a business, or even bring their personal possessions with them. This technology changed all of that. Stay tuned.

Oh, by the way, many of you from the last show talked about can I do this. You mentioned briefly a business opportunity of licensing this technology. Yes, and we discuss that. He brings his son on who is exploding this technology around the country, around the world. Stay tuned for that as well. See you there.

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Hello, everyone. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV. I’m Ashley Smith. Today, due to great demand based on your comments, questions, and responses, we welcome back Mike Adams, who has been a mold remediation for the better half of two decades. Mike and a couple of special guests are here today to share some amazing testimonials of the magic of his unique dry fogging technique that his company, Pure Maintenance, is using to ultimately give you your health back.

I can’t wait to hear more. Let’s welcome Mike Adams and, of course, Dr. Pompa to the show. Welcome, both of you.

Mike Adams:
Thank you, Ashley, appreciate it.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, well, Mike, I want to start by a thank you because the testimonies have poured in. As a matter of fact, I wanted you to share some of the testimonies on this show. We will do that. The reason I feel that’s important is because, Number One, I was a skeptic in the beginning of all fogging. I was the one that lumped everything into fogging, it doesn’t work, and threw the baby out with the bathwater.

Don’t do that. This is not fog. As a matter of fact, you started calling it something different, vapor, because it is so different than anything that’s on the market. The reason I want to thank you is because not only me but the doctors that I train around the country, we are all referring people in droves to this technology. You license this technology around the country to people. As a matter of fact, many people watching this may be interested in that. We were loaded with emails based on that, people patiently looking at a new opportunity because they were affected by mold.

I know your son Brandon is on here. He’s going to help explain a little bit of that as well because people wanted to know how to become a licensed operator of this amazing technology, but so many testimonies, man. I’m telling you; people’s lives changed and weren’t able to go back in their home, their businesses; yet, after your technology, was able to go back in.

I can tell you, I said before we got on here, man, I wish I would have kept my Voxers. That’s a way I communicate with my doctors when I train them. It’s like a voice text. I wish I would have kept the testimonies because we got so many saying the same things.

Wow, how it transformed people’s lives and I have to say cheaply when compared to full remediations that take place and how costly that can be. I think which can even raise the level of skepticism even more when it’s what, you’re going to do all this for $2, $3 depending on the size of your home, $4,000 when they told me it was going to be $30,000 to remediate? I think that makes people more skeptical, but the fact is the technology is so absolutely spot on that it makes that happen. I don’t want to rehash the whole show. Ashley will put the last interview that we did together because I’m sure we’ll cover different things in this interview. We can put that interview here that you can access.

Mike, a lot’s changed. I’m sure you have more licensees around the country, so we have people listening from all over the place. That’s growing. I hope that it’s growing leaps and bounds. Is that happening? Did we get more people doing this technology?

Mike Adams:
Yeah, currently, the last count that I saw, we’ve got about 138 licensees in the United States. I know we’ve got two in Canada and one in the UK. It’s taking off faster than any of us expected.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, those that are in countries, different countries, different places, please, we have people from your company driving some distance just because people will say, hey, I’ll pay your driving distance if you can come. Your people are willing to do that. Yeah, we’ll talk more about that towards the end of the show. We’ll bring your son in on that conversation.

Let’s rehash a little bit. First of all, I want to say, I deal with people that have unexplainable illnesses. That was me. That’s why I have clients from around the world with these issues. My passion, training doctors around the concepts, most of which I learned through my own story, my own journey.

I’ll tell you, I talk about three big ones that either people miss completely or they do wrong. In this area, we’re talking about biotoxic illness from mold. It is one of my Big Three. What I mean by that is typically, people miss it completely. They don’t smell mold, they don’t see mold, so they don’t think it’s part of their picture.

It’s not even on their radar screen, or they are thinking maybe it’s mold, they either do the wrong test, they do the wrong remediation. They’re still in a building that’s making them sick because biotoxins are not the same as mold spores. They get air count mold spore testing done. It’s safe now, but they’re reacting to small amounts of biotoxins.

One of the things that I was most impressed with your technology is it deals with the biotoxin itself. That’s why so many people who are unable to go in their business or their home are able to now because it does deal with this part of that. Do you want to say anything about that because it is one of the things that makes this product very different?

Mike Adams:
Yeah, I want to touch on that just for a moment. You talked about people having a bad attitude or a bad—it just has a bad connotation, the word fogging. That’s because a lot of people previous to us have tried fogging. They’ve used inferior products and they’ve used inferior equipment. Probably more importantly is the products they’ve tried to use.

We are a long way from just going in and spraying something on everything in the house and calling it good. It’s a completely different technology. There’s physics involved. There’s a vapor phase change happening while we fog. The entire home has to be fogged, not just spot treated. That along with the fact that we know that when we fog the whole home, there’s not going to be any other mold in the home somewhere else.

For example, a traditional remediator will spot treat just the basement, or just the bathroom, or whatever. Then they’ll curtain off that area, run HEPA air scrubbers in there. They’ll keep the plastic up. Then they’ll test it. Then they’ll declare that house clean.

That house isn’t clean. That bathroom maybe, but the house is a long way from being clean. That’s really what separates us from everybody else is we recognize that it has to be a whole home treatment.

Dr. Pompa:
I agree. You pressurize it in. One of the things that I was doubtful on is one of the things is that, hey, it gets behind your walls; it gets in the tiny spaces. You actually put these little tabs in and around the home that will detect if your product got to that area. I remember you telling me this.

There was a file system in an office or a home. You put one of the tabs down in one of the files deep in. There it was. Pulled it out and sure enough, it got into that file system. That’s how penetrating it is.

Talk about the technology and what makes it different because obviously, people have fogged their homes. I said at the beginning that I wasn’t a believer because it really didn’t get where you needed it to go. This technology does.

What you just described was my sister, who I made listen. She’s over here live right now listening to this conversation because she’s having your company come out. She’s from Pittsburgh, where I used to live. They’re driving out to—one of your licensees is driving out to do her home, thank God. Her husband, a natural doubter in the whole situation. They have mold behind a wall that again got wet several times. Was doing the typical remediation, selling it off, the whole thing.

I’m explaining to her wonderful and great; however, those biotoxins have permeated your whole home: your living space, your bedroom. Those are the ones that make you sick. We can take out the “mold” if you’re successful in doing so, but my concern for her was what is in the HVAC system? What’s in every square inch? What’s in the couches? Everything is soft and absorbable where these biotoxins penetrate.

Believe it or not, I had a—I get the sensitive, very sensitive person. Once you’re sensitized to small amounts of these biotoxins, you don’t realize, but you can be in what is considered “tested a safe environment” but the small level of biotoxin your body is reacting to. We have to irradicate it to make that environment safe. Again, I said this technology was the only thing that’s ever done that.

Most people, Mike, don’t realize that, yes, the mold is gone. It tests perfect, but they’re still reacting. It’s still upregulating their immune system. That was the problem for me with most of the people that I see.

Mike Adams:
Yeah, and I think it’s really important to recognize that it’s not always just the mold. You can have bacteria that’s associated with water damage as well. The endotoxins coming off bacteria, you’ve got the mycotoxins coming off of mold. It’s a plethora of problems a home can have that this parasitic acid vapor will address.

You mentioned it goes in with pressure. What happens just in a nutshell is as that parasitic acid begins to evaporate from that vapor, it causes—the evaporation causes vapor pressure to occur. As that pressure increases, that increases. Not to mention, we’re putting it in with 10 to 15 CFM of air pressure to begin with, but the vapor being evaporated causes vapor pressure as well. We’re pushing that parasitic acid into every crack, every crevice. Anywhere mold can get, we’re going to get there times ten because mold certainly isn’t floating around under pressure, but the fog is, and so we’ll find it.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, explain a little bit of the difference of what most “fogs” are to this vapor that you’re using in the technology. Explain to them why—and you just did in one aspect because of how it’s pressurized, but explain a little bit more maybe even from a chemical standpoint.

Mike Adams:
Yeah, most companies that are out there claiming they fog, they’re using a sprayer. That sprayer is going to deliver a particle or a droplet that’s in the range of 20 to 40 microns. That thing is going to come out of the sprayer, hit a surface. It may or may not kill whatever it landed on, but it’s going to stay there. It’s going to leave a residue behind. Now, you’ve got something like sodium hypochlorite or some quat that’s going to leach into your system and make you sick as well.

Our system, it comes with a 7.5 micron particle that when it hits surfaces, it is so small, it bounces off surfaces. It can’t land and splat on that surface. Couple that with the fact that when it does break down chemically, it breaks down to just oxygen and water. We’re leaving nothing behind. Not only are we more effective than a typical quat or a chlorine-based fluid, but we break down to oxygen and water when we’re done.

Dr. Pompa:
By the way, the only thing when I had it done, I—it had a little vinegar odor. That was it. There was no film to your point, not anything. I didn’t have to worry about damage; I didn’t have to worry about toxicity levels.

By the way, a lot of the clients that I have and my doctors, these people are very chemically sensitive. They’ve had things, mold remediation done in their homes to a disaster because now they’re reacting to the chemical to your point. That’s residues and takes a long time to break down, if ever. That becomes a problem. This is safe and it doesn’t ruin anything. That’s a big deal, yeah.

The other question I have is, well, okay, do I have—this is the question I’m thinking in my emails. Do I have to get the home remediated first? Meaning, do I have to tear out the wall? Do I have to do that ahead of it? Give that answer because it’s probably a two-part answer.

Mike Adams:
Yeah, it is. There is no one answer fits every situation. It’s a case by case. We’ve got to apply a lot of common sense. First and foremost, what I always preach is that we’ve got to get the house safe before you do too much work. The list is long, really long of people I’ve met that try to do some of the remediation themselves that got really sick, sometimes a lifetime of sickness from doing that.

Dr. Pompa:
It happens all the time. Don’t do it, yeah.

Mike Adams:
Yeah, the biggest key to our process is everything has to be dried out. You’ve got to do this regardless of what type of remediation you use.

Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely, if the cause is still there, I don’t care what you do, you’ve got a problem that’s coming back again and again and again.

Mike Adams:
Yeah, the beauty of our process is once it is dried out, then we come in whether the walls are opened or not. We have ways of getting that fog behind the walls, above and beyond just the pressure itself. Like I said, the beauty of it is we can make that home safe. Then you’re free to do whatever you want as far as the aesthetics and the rebuild without worrying about getting sick.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, exactly. I know that people were ecstatic because they just put one really little hole in the wall and you were able to pressurize that wall of suspicion. They didn’t even have to go in and pull out the mold. Again, I guess there’s an argument. What’s your feeling on it? If you have mold behind a wall, yes, I can go in and kill it, eradicate it, but do you still want to remove the mold?

Mike Adams:
There’s a few different—

Dr. Pompa:
Not you personally, but have a company. Let me restate that.

Mike Adams:
There’s a few schools of thought on this. One is if it’s a situation where that wall aesthetically needs to be replaced, of course, we want to cut that out and replace it. It may make more sense to fog before you cut it out. We’ve done this many times. We will couple with whatever construction company or whatever contractor you work with. We’ll say, look, let us go in and fog it, get it safe. You go ahead and cut the wall out, whatever you want to do to open up. Then when you’re completely done with the project, let us come in and fog one more time just to make sure everything is great.

There’s different approaches. There isn’t any one size fits all solution. It is so affordable, there’s nothing wrong with the idea of let’s get it safe first and then let’s fog it one more time to make sure everything is perfect before the family moves back in.

Dr. Pompa:
I want to state this. A place we got into trouble on the first one was these people license the technology from you. This is inexpensive when you look at any type of remediation. I did make that comment; however, there’s different prices depending on where you are in the country. Let’s just be clear. Is it safe to say they all charge per square foot of the home? Is that safe?

Mike Adams:
Yeah.

Dr. Pompa:
Okay, and like I said, when you compare it, I’m not even going to say a price because everyone was like, you said this and they’re charging this. I’m like, oh my gosh, yeah, that was such a big mistake. It’s inexpensive, honestly. The fact is that I guess it’s different in New York than it is in Park City, Utah.

Mike Adams:
Or Kaysville, Utah, yeah.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, or Kaysville, Utah. Regardless of that, look, when you’re paying to get your life back and to get a safe home, for me, it’s all—I’ll tell you, I’ve had some stories. I want you to play one here. You can get ready to do that or your son.

I had some testimonies myself that were really powerful. There was one guy and this thinking outside the box. He had stuff that he couldn’t bring in his home. He was reacting to it. Remember, I said people reacting to small amounts of biotoxins that permeated and penetrated some of his goods: couches, things of that sort.

He had it in a storage unit. You all went in and sprayed his storage unit of his stuff. He was able to bring that stuff back in his house, which he wasn’t even able to bring single pieces back in. They were making him sick. Then he was able to utilize all of it again.

That’s just a single story about something you wouldn’t think possibly could happen, like you wouldn’t be able to use certain lamps, or beds, or couches. Go ahead, Brandon. I want people to hear some of the stories.

Brandon Adams:
Yeah, this is a great one as you guys talked about people that try to remediation first and are still sick. This one came to mind. I think it’s a great segue to it.

Bill Salmon:
We bought our house about five years ago. We knew there was some issues with the house. We had it tested for mold. It came out negative and so we thought everything was fine.

We fixed a few items that we knew that weren’t working well. We had roof problems from previous owners. Then when I started getting headaches a few months ago, I started looking at the mold thing again. Tested again, numbers were high, very high, very uncomfortably high. We tried to figure out how we’re going to deal with this.

The concern was we didn’t see it. We didn’t know where it was in the house. We talked to a mold remediation team. They talked about tearing down different parts of the house and then physically taking it out. The problem was that we could chase that rabbit a long time and not really know if we’re getting what was causing the high readings.

We came across Pure. They said they’ll come in, fog the whole place, and don’t have to know where it is, and will test again afterwards. We tested before, numbers were high. They came in and fogged everything, tested again, it was gone. That’s it. It was gone. After Pure came in and did their fogging, the immediate mold headaches were noticeably different within 24 to 48 hours.

Dr. Pompa:
That’s a great point that he just made because one of the benefits of doing this is that we don’t know oftentimes where the problem is. This happens all the time. I just literally had probably two or three testimonies of my own clients that was the case. We didn’t know what was going on.

Even for me, it was maybe your house is making you sick. Since we bought the house, we had no water damage. There’s no history of it. We don’t see any problem. This is oftentimes what I do with clients is let’s just do this because it’s cheap enough to be able to do it. Let’s just put the vapor in the home and see what happens

Man, just like that guy, it solved the problem. That’s I think a great point is you don’t know where the problem is. This is a solution when you don’t.

Mike Adams:
Yeah, that really is, Dr. Pompa. That’s the beauty of the whole process is I tell people all the time, it doesn’t matter where it is. The vapor will find it.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, absolutely. Brandon, I want you to—you played the video there. You’re Mike’s son, who Mike gives you credit for really. I came on and I thanked him for bringing this technology to so many of our clients and patients that we were not able to help before and we are now. I should have been thanking you according to your dad, not him. You were really the one that came out of college and said, man, the world needs this. Tell that story.

Brandon Adams:
Yeah, it’s a long, hard road, but it was a fun one to do it as a father/son deal. My dad, he had stumbled upon this technology and reengineered it and reengineered it and reengineered it and to get it to where it was this great product that was helping a whole bunch of people. We were helping a lot of people. We felt like we were helping. We were doing two jobs a day around Utah and were helping a lot of people, but really the demand came from the customers.

The ideas and the visions all developed based on happy customers who had the treatment and said, hey, I want to get involved in this. I want to be part of this. I want to invest. I want to buy a franchise. I want to do something.

Honestly, one thing lead to another. We didn’t have a ton of capital at the time. We didn’t have money to go pay a franchise attorney to set up a franchise, so we had protected ourselves the best we could with our intellectual property, and patents, and trademarks, and trade secrets, and things like that. We were in a perfect position to just set up a licensing model where we could quickly and efficiently allow other companies that already existed or other people that wanted to start a business to be able to do so quickly and affordably.

We always wanted it to be a situation where someone could live the American dream. It didn’t have to be somebody that inherited a bunch of money from their dad that had a bunch of money lying around to buy a million-dollar franchise. We wanted anybody that had a strong work ethic and could set aside a few dollars here and there to be able to help as many people as they could and to be able to provide a living for themselves. That’s what the fun part—that’s fun part for me to be able to see not only the end-user, the customers that are healed, but all these people that have worked a 9 to 5 job their entire life and couldn’t take it anymore and stumbled upon to this technology. There was a great business opportunity that was born for them. Now, they’re living a life with their family that they never imagined that they could because—and they’re helping people all along the way. It’s been really gratifying in both senses from when we were just helping two or three people a day in Utah to now where we help hundreds of people.

Dr. Pompa:
No, it’s awesome. I want you guys to spread like crazy, so do my—so does my doctors because we have people everywhere. Sorry, my doorbell. We have people everywhere need this. I’ve got two dogs going off there. Tell the people listening because I had several emails of people who—and I probably last interview just made mention of it briefly, but what can they do? Who do they contact if they’re interested in licensing the technology and making a business out of it?

Brandon Adams:
Yeah, I think the first place to start is to go to my.puremaintenance.com. If you go to puremaintenance.com, you can learn all about the technology. You can find the different locations and schedule a treatment. If you’re interested in the business side of it, go to my, M-Y, .puremaintenance.com. It has a catalog with all the pricing information. It has a number that you can call to get information about territories, a catalog on there that shows how the business model is set up and how it works.

Dr. Pompa:
That’s perfect. If I’m a person thinking I need this, how do I know if someone’s in my area? Where do I go?

Brandon Adams:
You go to puremaintenance.com. If you scroll to the bottom of the page, there’s a big map of the United States, Canada, and the UK. You can find the closest license holder to you and their phone number on that map.

Dr. Pompa:
Now, some of the suggestions that I’ve made to clients is, well, look, they don’t have anyone in my area. There’s one three hours away. My suggestion is, hey, tell them you’ll pay for their travel. Tell them you’ll pay a little extra if they drive out. Is that a good suggestion?

Brandon Adams:
Yeah, absolutely. Back in the day, when it was just Mike and I, we went as far as Alaska and Mexico because people were willing to pay the travel to get us up there because they had heard such great things about it.

Dr. Pompa:
Actually, you raise a good point, though, because that’s an option. I don’t know which of your licensees will travel. Of course, they’ll drive. They could drive ten hours if need be, but if there’s nobody in my area, nobody for many miles, can they contact you and talk about what it would cost to fly you out?

Brandon Adams:
Yeah, absolutely. We’ll either work with the local license that’s closest, or if the only way for us to get to you is for us to fly out there, we’ll make work for you.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, you’re not going to step on the toes of your licensees. That would be stupid, but what I’m saying, I’m worried about the client, the person, the sick person going, man, no one’s even close to me. Like you said, you mentioned Alaska or wherever. Obviously, you’re not necessarily in every state, but how many states are you in?

Brandon Adams:
I think right now, we’re in about 45 of the 50 states.

Dr. Pompa:
Oh, wow, that’s pretty good. What five do we need people in?

Brandon Adams:
We’ve got the Dakotas, up on the northeast, up near Maine. There’s a little gap up there.

Dr. Pompa:
To be clear, every state, you could probably have a hundred of these in every state, more than that, hundreds in every state, and you all are not going to step on anyone’s toes because there’s so much business to be had. What frustrates me, and again, I’m coming from the health perspective of the person, I see these mold remediation trucks. I know what they’re doing. They don’t even set up negative and positive air pressures that work correctly. Even if they did, they leave a person in a sick building still. That’s what hurts me when I see those situations.

The other hurtful part for me is that I recognize that how many people are sick. I was in a building. That was just probably two weeks ago; not even; it was probably a week and a half ago. I was in California. I was out there lecturing. I went in a building with my wife. It was a store. I won’t mention any names, but it was a store.

I walked in and it was a mold trap. Now, the old me, I would have had to run out of that place because I would start reacting. I’ve trained my nerve system not to hyper-react, which is a whole nother episode, by the way, neuroplasty. The bottom line is this mold’s bad for anybody.

All I thought about, I looked at the people working there. I could see the hollow eyes. I could see the look, man. That’s all I can tell you. All I thought was, my gosh, it’s like if they just knew your company could come in there because it smelt like it was coming out of the HVAC system.

I’m sure the building wasn’t leaking anymore. It’s this major store. They’re not going to tolerate a leak, but man, it had a massive mold problem. How easily they could fix that.

The problem for me was seeing these people not knowing why. They don’t put two and two together that, oh, that’s when my fatigue started. That’s when my brain fog started. That’s when I started not being able to lose weight, or they don’t correlate when they started working at this place, or when they moved this home, or when after this leak that happened a year ago. It took a year for them to start getting sick. Their husband or wife is okay, but they’re not because they don’t understand there’s a genetic component to some people who react very quickly and other people don’t.

To be clear, mold is bad for everybody, but some people are definitely more sensitive. Those watching, listening, if you’re in a home, you’re not well, you have fatigue, you have hormone resistance of any sort, thyroid, maybe it’s just feeling like you’re wiped out all the time, can’t sleep, anxiety, all of those things can be signs of mold. Yes, you should consider your environment and consider that this could be a problem. Anything you want to add, gentleman?

Mike Adams:
I wanted to make sure that I shout out to my wife because she, Dr. Pompa, she’s always thought I was nuts when I told her I can walk down a mall and tell you who has mold by looking at them. She’s always said, Mike, you’re nuts, but I’m going to make sure she hears what you just had to say because you can tell, can’t you, in a lot of cases?

Dr. Pompa:
There’s a name for it. It’s called mold face. That’s a real—

Mike Adams:
Oh, is that right?

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that is real comment. I remember I was doing an interview sometime or it was a live thing. I mentioned mold face. In the chat, it was like mold face. Do I have mold face? Yeah, it is a real look. Hey, Brandon, do us a favor. Play another testimony because I want people to hear how this technology is changing lives.

Dr. Jeff Ryan:
My name is Dr. Jeff Ryan. I’ve been practicing as a physician in Utah for the last 18 years. I would say that I see the world’s most difficult people. My clients and my patients often come to me after having seen multiple doctors, and having had multiple diagnoses, and have failed modern medicine, unfortunately.

They seek me out trying to help—trying to find and get the help. I interview them. We spend a lot of time with them. I find that many of them are sick with mold. Mold has a whole protocol, a protocol by Dr. Shoemaker, who really knows his stuff. It is solid. I find that protocol works great.

I’ve also found that in order to get your house right, you have to have Pure Maintenance. This is an advertisement for them. Pure Maintenance needs to come to your house and fog it. I found that that’s an integral part in cleaning up the mess so that your body can heal.

Dr. Pompa:
I know Jeff—

Brandon Adams:
Sorry.

Dr. Jeff Ryan:
—commonly, how did you get involved with Pure Maintenance? The answer is with great trepidation. I was studying mold. I had a lot of sick people. I was studying the protocols of removing mold. There was nobody who said you can fix the house. It was basically the advice I had to give people was, leave naked and never go back. To me, that’s terrible advice, but that was what I had to tell people is they had to leave.

One of my patients called me and said, hey, there’s this company that you need to work with. I think they’re great. They did a great job for me. When my patient is telling me something, I believe them. When one of them testifies that something’s great, I have to give it a lot of credence.

I accepted an interview or a meeting with this company, Pure Maintenance. I was skeptical. In fact, I was maybe a little more skeptical than I should have been because I was concerned that they were going to come in and put a chemical in that might harm my patients in addition to maybe cleaning up the mess.

They proceeded to give me some information on the product that they use. They said that it was a combination of peroxide and vinegar. I thought, well, peroxide’s safe; vinegar’s safe. Okay, this is sounding good to me, but does it work? Turns out, they said it was a hospital-grade disinfectant and that they were getting really good results.

I proceeded with caution. The next couple of patients who came in, I said, there’s this company. I have a little bit of experience with them, but I don’t know. Here’s their phone number. For the next probably 10 or 12 years, my patients will come back and say, man, thank you so much for referring me to Pure Maintenance. They are so amazing. I feel so much better.

Those are my patients that I was working with. Then when we decided to—well, we didn’t decide to, then when we had a mold problem, I had Pure Maintenance come in and fog my own house. When my wife came back in—I’m not very sensitive to these things, but my wife is very sensitive. When she walked back in the house, she took a deep breath and went, finally, I feel better in the house. That was a personal testimonial that, wow, this stuff really works. It really cleans up the house.

Dr. Pompa:
Now, I know Dr. Ryan personally. Man, he’s such a good guy. He’s just like I am, sending people in droves. That’s great. I have to say, Mike, you have a lot of Google—there’s nothing but good stuff out there, but read a few of your testimonies there from the Internet.

Mike Adams:
Here’s one. It says, “I struggled with sinus and bronchial issues for mold which affected my health immensely. Pure Maintenance came and fogged my home as a report came back of harmful mold and bacteria. Immediately, me and my family noticed a difference. Headaches, dizziness, and other health issues began to disappear. I highly recommend this company if you are having health issues. Get your home tested. Mold can be life-threatening.”

Then just one other real quick one. “This company is extremely easy to work with. We had our house done after years of health issues and have experienced a noticeable difference. I would highly recommend this company to anyone looking to remediate mold in their home.”

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s awesome. I just want people to hear it. Again, for me, it’s the whole thing of people go looking for—they’re spending thousands of dollars on different solutions. It might help temporarily, but it’s—none of it is worth a lasting result or going to be a lasting result unless you get upstream to the cause. Oftentimes, mold is that hidden causative factor. I really want people to hear it. I know you even have another video testimony, but for the sake of time, Brandon, maybe you just could voice it. I don’t want to—

Mike Adams:
I don’t want to preempt anything, but we actually have a licensee that used to have a business relationship with Erin Brockovich on a different health matter. He ended up buying a license from us down in Louisiana. I think he’s on the line, Ashley. I don’t know if you’d be interested in hearing from Jim or not?

Brandon Adams:
Jim, are you there?

Jim:
Yes, I am.

Brandon Adams:
Do you mind just telling them maybe your experience with getting your business started down in Louisiana?

Jim:
Sure, thank you for inviting me. Nice to meet you, Doctor.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, thanks for being here. I didn’t know you were going to be here. I thought it was a video. What a pleasure. My good friend Jeff Hayes just recently interviewed Erin Brockovich last week.

Jim:
You know what’s funny is she would not remember me because it’s been probably 30 years the last time I spoke to her, but I had a clinic that treated people who were sick from chemical exposures. She had called me one day on a referral, probably 1992, ’93, and said, I have a patient that’s sick from black mold. Could you help them? I said, well, we haven’t treated anybody for black mold before, but let me check with our doctor. I did. We ended up taking her patient and actually had a pretty good result, but she also had to move from her home and leave everything behind.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, a lot of people don’t know that. A lot of people don’t know that about her story that she got sick. I think it was from a new home that they—it got moist. Then they wrapped anyway. Then they build it over the top. A lot of new homes get wet and then they basically seal it. I think that’s what happened to her. Am I right on that?

Jim:
I don’t know. It wasn’t her personally; it was somebody that she knew that had sought her help.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s why she sought you out, but I know she had her own personal experience. I’m recalling those details; it was a while ago.

Jim:
Right, that stuck in my mind all these years. I spent 23 years removing toxic chemicals from people as a charity after 9/11 for 9/11 rescue workers. Then I moved to Louisiana to help the BP oil spill workers who got sick from Corexit, a chemical that is very carcinogenic that they used to break up the oil.

Luckily for me, I ran into Mike through my best friends who own two licenses in Florida and California. They told me about this business. I was just getting out of the humanitarian business and said, okay, I need to make some money. I’m getting a little older here.

I looked into it. I thought this is a great business. You get to help people; you get to make money. It’s a real service. You get to save people a lot of money. I’ll just give you one example.

I had a 40-year-old woman who had a massive flood in her home caused by a contractor. She got mold throughout her master living area, her master bathroom, and throughout the home actually. This was just about a month and a half ago. The competing bid to remediate her house that I had to compete against was $325,000. I remediated her 6,800 square feet for about $5,700.

We were done in a day. She went from being sick—and she had her mother who lived there with COPD who was really struggling from the mold. She’s no longer struggling. They’re were considering literally, hey, the house is only worth $500,000. Let’s just tear it down, but they didn’t have to do that. That was just a recent story.

Then just about two months ago, there’s a biochemist who lives down the street from me in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. For the first four years after he got his master’s degree in biology and chemistry, he sat in the lab in Baton Rouge that studied mold samples. He got married a few years ago. He has a ten-month-old baby.

His mother-in-law and his wife 20, 30 years ago had a home with Stachybotrys black mold. They literally had to destroy the home. The home was not salvageable, at least according to them at the time. When the mother-in-law went into the new house after they were doing a little bit of remodeling, she says, oh my God, this house has mold. I’m getting sick and instantly started reacting to the home.

They got an independent air quality person to do samples. Low and behold, they had Stachybotrys and four or five other types of mold. They got out of the house. On emergency, we went and fogged the house. This was just about a month and a half ago. A couple of days later, they send in another independent environmental engineer: zero Stachybotrys, everybody back in the house, mother-in-law not getting sick anymore. Again, the competing bids were over $10,000. I don’t think we charged but $3,000 or so and it was a fairly large home.

We got to save this person a lot of money, make sure his ten-month-old baby was safe and the rest of the family. Every day I get to do this. I just thank my lucky stars that I got to meet Mike and Pure Maintenance and get into a line of work where I can actually help people and make an honest living by saving them money. It’s just a beautiful thing to do.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, thank you, Jim. Many things stood out in mind there. Number One, that even if those people do get it remediated and spend all that money, chances are, they wouldn’t be able to live in the home anyway because they’re sensitized, whereas this process actually makes it livable for them. It’s so sad.

You hear those stories. These are the stories that I hear. Many people go unknowing that they’re even in a mold exposure. Thank you for sharing. That was helpful. Thanks for coming on.

Jim:
My pleasure. Thank you, you guys.

Brandon Adams:
Thanks, Jim.

Dr. Pompa:
Gentlemen, you can tell I’m committed to the process here of getting more people utilizing your technology. It’s because I’m committed to the people suffering, honestly. I was one. Heavy metal, mercury is what triggered my illness. One thing that I teach is once you become sensitive to one neurotoxin, you become sensitive to all.

I was in a low-grade old home, low-grade mold exposure that I could have been there another ten years and it may not have made me sick, but because I got triggered by high levels of mercury, I started reacting to the home as well. I didn’t have this technology when I was getting my life back. Thank God, we left the home. When I left the home, I realized one level of stress, and I still had mercury in my brain, but one level of stress was gone. I could tell immediately when I got out of the home.

I want people to hear that, too. Dr. Jeff said something. He said, in the past, we would tell people, leave; get naked and leave the house, meaning don’t take anything with you, even your clothes. That’s literally how we had to deal with many of these sensitive patients. If I seem passionate about your product, this is why because that was the answer to most people that get sensitized to these toxins that they just have to leave everything behind. How sad is that? It’s terrible. You all brought a solution to that.

Mike Adams:
Thank you. I appreciate your time, Dr. Pompa.

Dr. Pompa:
Yep, well, we appreciate you having it. Brandon, go ahead, give them—one more time, tell them what to do one more time if they’re interested in getting somebody or being a technician.

Brandon Adams:
Yeah, if you’re interested in having a treatment done, go visit puremaintenance.com. That’s the end-user site where you can see all the different licensees all over the country. If you’re interested in the business side of it, go to my.puremaintenance.com. It will have all the information on getting started there.

Dr. Pompa:
Awesome, thanks, guys, appreciate you.

Mike Adams:
Thank you so much. Take care.

Dr. Pompa:
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