Transcript of Episode 44: Diet Soda Effects on the Brain
With Dr. Daniel Pompa, Warren Phillips and David Asarnow.
Warren:
All right, guys. Sorry we're a little late today. As always we have a little bit of technical difficulty. Dr. Pompa and our executive team have been travelling. There's David and Phil's over here, but we always make time for what's important and that's sharing the truth.
Dr. Pompa has a really great topic today. As a matter of fact, we just released an article.
You're going to see a little bit of a delay because the Internet connection is slow here. There's this topic and it's an epidemic. There's multiple of them out there, but just recently there's an onslaught of patients, Dr. Pompa that have been dealing with Parkinson's. A lot of that connection has come from one thing. We'd like to share that one thing with you today, and we just released an article on that one thing.
Dr. Pompa, let's get into the detrimental effect of diet soda on the brain. What we like to say is?
Dr. Pompa:
Your brain on diet soda.
Warren:
You brain on diet soda. Frying in the pan. Your brain on drugs, you remember that?
Dr. Pompa:
I remember years ago, I thought I'd start with this story because years ago, I had a patient, this was back in my practice in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in Wexford, and she was diagnosed with MS. I had just got done reading an article recently around that time about how people with MS, Parkinson's and other neurodegenerative diseases could be misdiagnosed, if you will. The first question is always to ask if they've ever drunk a lot of diet soda, utilized a lot of diet products in their life. When you take those away, many of these people that's the first step, they actually get better.
This girl came in and she was severely down the road with MS. Having just read that article, I said to her, “Have you utilized a lot of aspartame in your day or drunk diet soda?” As it turned out, she was in fact addicted to diet soda and other products too. By the way, we'll talk about why it's so addictive. I don't know if I shared the article with her, it was a while ago, the bottom line is she gets off of the diet soda. She literally was able to start walking again; her life changed. She was able to get off all the medications. I mean her life changed. I think there was some damage that was still there, however, life with that diagnosis ended.
As of recently, there's been a lot of talk on the Internet, some things coming out about Michael J. Fox, and as we know, he was one of the youngest people to be diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, a really sad story. Michael J. Fox also did ads for Pepsi Cola, and more specifically the diet soda. As it said in this article, is that Michael J. Fox was drinking a lot of diet soda. Not just doing the commercials but in his private life, so consuming a lot of diet soda. In the article too, they did indicate that heavy metals were also attributed to this condition. There's been some videos circulating online where Michael J. Fox was laughing in some of these movies, you could see his mouth fall of amalgam fillings, which releases mercury into the brain, which is also a known cause of Parkinson's.
As I always say, it's never one stressor. It's a perfect storm. Of course, Michael J. Fox ingesting the diet sodas, getting addicted to the diet sodas. Obviously now there's all this research on how aspartame is linked to Parkinson's and other nerve diseases. As we know, even the article talks about how it drives some people on NMDA, which is simply this bran chemical, if you will that drives this inflammation in the brain. We know that aspartame also blunts dopamine receptors. What that means, we know that Parkinson's is related to this chemical that the brain needs called dopamine.
The brain starts to form these plaques and this inflammation, so the research has been there for use obviously. Michael J. Fox's foundation, I think this is one of the points in the article, is that this has been brought to the foundation's attention. This link of diet soda and Michael J. Fox drinking a lot of diet soda and driving his Parkinson's, but it's really just been pushed aside. I think the sad part is there's a lot of money that's gone into the foundation are companies who utilize aspartame, or at least make products with aspartame in them and other petrochemicals etc., and the article based on.
I think that next time you're on an airplane, just look around and you hear the people making their orders. I think more people order diet soda today than anything else.
Warren:
That's true. In my personality, you know that research is actually going to—you're going to gain work when you drink diet soda.
Dr. Pompa:
Well that's actually another great topic. Warren you pointed out — ask them, the answer's always, “Well I like it more!”
Warren:
Yeah, and this is a big controversy for me because if you're watching this you're like, “Well I cannot get off my diet soda.” You're literally addicted. When you first try it, it's not that good.
Dr. Pompa:
No, there's that odd aftertaste.
Warren:
Mom, how can you drink this? My mom, I'm from Pittsburgh, mom, “Why do you like diet soda? It tastes like crap.” She's like, “I love it!” I'll actually talk to people and they'll verbally say to me, “There's no way that you can get right of my diet soda!” There is a diet soda right there but you can't put the name on there.
Phil:
I was just drinking this.
Warren:
You can't show it.
Dr. Pompa:
Other than like that.
Warren:
Oh yeah. It's a diet soda, in this house. It's Phil's.
Phil:
It's not mine.
Warren:
It always blows my mind, Dr. Pompa why it's so addictive. I know it has to be something to do with the dopamine effect or something, but they get addicted to this stuff and it's literally—I don't know how to say it but in layman's terms, it's like crap. They just do not want to get off of it, and it becomes a major sticking point, even in some of the consults.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, aspartame, it's the amino acids that make up aspartame. By the way that's one of the arguments, it has three amino acids, maybe the viewing audience is more familiar with MSG. Well these things are excitotoxins that excite this part of our brain, and these are called glutamate receptors.
Warren:
I like my brain excited, shouldn't that be a good thing?
Dr. Pompa:
That's the whole point of the brain on drugs, right, or brain, in this case, on diet soda, it excites these things. When it excites them that's the point. Food companies put these clever chemicals into foods and it literally makes us go, wow, the flavor here is amazing. Part of the problem with that is when we eat broccoli or something next time, it's like after a while, broccoli doesn't taste good. That's why the kids today are addicted to processed food with these chemicals because they're excitotoxins. They get the brain to love the food. There's these pleasure centers in the brain and it stimulates those pleasure centers just like a drug does. That's why people get addicted to – Phil Kaplan coming in – and they get addicted to those drugs because they stimulate the pleasure centers. However, these things also do the same thing.
Phil, you must have something to say.
Warren:
We have two puppies in the room!
Phil:
I have a question for you and I have a comment. My comment is what do they add in the diet soda to the aspartame? In most cases, caffeine, so now you have the double addiction. You're securing the addictive property with another addictive substance.
Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely!
Phil:
My question for you is you have this woman in Pittsburgh. Did she really have MS or was she simply misdiagnosed? When you look at that, the diagnosis is based on symptoms and symptoms go away. Did that person really have the disease or were they misdiagnosed?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I would say misdiagnosed, right, but ultimately though, what is the diagnosis. We see certain plaques in the brain. We see a certain set of symptoms and we're putting a label on that. I guess that it's called MS but we don't know what caused it.
Phil:
I'm asking you this from the perspective of somebody who was misdiagnosed with Parkinson's. I don't have Parkinson's. Think about if you can imagine sitting across the table from a doctor who says, “You have Parkinson's.” There was no question. It's wasn't, “Phil, you might have Parkinson's. You have symptoms that replicate Parkinson's.”
Dr. Pompa:
Well how did that happen? Tell a little bit of that story because there's s so many people watching this—
Phil:
Absolutely! Join the conversation.
Dr. Pompa:
There's so many people watching this who have a certain set of symptoms and been given a diagnosis, Phil. I'm always saying, hey that's just a word. You have fibromyalgia. Here's the classic one, you have cellulite. My God I have cellulitis! That's inflammation of cells. You have fibromyalgia. Well if you have pain everywhere, we have a -inaudible-.
When you had a certain set of symptoms and things going wrong, they gave you a diagnosis of Parkinson's.
Phil:
Well at the time I didn't know much about mold. I've become an accidental expert, as you have because we've been through it. I was just getting crazy symptoms and by the time I went to, I'm not going to say the name of the hospital, but a major hospital. They put me through three days of testing. I was actually excited to speak to the Head of Neurology because I was sure he was going to cure me. Whatever it was, he was going to cure me.
I was stuttering. I could barely form words. I had really bad trembles; I would sit on my hands. I couldn't even pick up a glass off the table. I believed whatever it is, he's going to identify it, and without looking at me, he was looking at his computer, he said, “Phil, you have Parkinson's.” I guess a look came over my face that when he looked at he was taken by it. He puts his hand on my forearm and he goes, “Don't worry; there are medications. You can have a good quality of life for many years.”
What strikes me is had I started taking—I left with the prescriptions but I never filled them. Had I left with those prescriptions and actually filled them and taken the medications, I would today believe I had Parkinson's.
Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely!
Phil:
You have to wonder how many times people are misdiagnosed, how many times, and how many times are you examined.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, done that! I think unfortunately that happens a lot today with many people. What is really the cause of fibromyalgia is chronic fatigue. You only have chronic fatigue, they walk away with a lifetime diagnosis, instead of asking the question, “What caused this set of symptoms?” Remember, symptoms are simply a warning. Our body's telling us there is something wrong, but what caused it. It's never asked.
Phil:
If Michael J. Fox could make a list of his symptoms, and then go through a checklist, I don't have this one anymore, don't have this one anymore, and who cares if he Parkinson's later. In other words, often the way the medical system operates is they did they job and they can stamp on your forehead, this is what you have.
Dr. Pompa:
Then promptly give you the concoctions that go along to minimize those symptoms and, therefore, you'll have it for life. You'll take those for life.
Warren:
That's the game they play.
Dr. Pompa:
They did their job.
Warren:
Yeah, I think with the right system.
Dr. Pompa:
That's a system that's broken. When the doctor is doing their job and some have a satisfaction but I think more and more doctors today are very frustrated within that system, at least we're seeing that, and they want out because it is a broken system.
Phil:
There's a perfect system at both ends. There's a perfect system for the chemical companies and a perfect system for drug companies. And new compounds that they can put in foods that can cause sets of symptoms that could be diagnosed, drug companies make money. That's how the machine works. You've heard the term ‘bliss point'?
Dr. Pompa:
No.
Phil:
In the food industry, they have to find the right amount of sweetener to get to the point of bliss. Now when you go beyond it, then the person gets sick of the food. If you ever eat something which is too sweet —
Dr. Pompa:
I've had enough.
Phil:
Yeah. They spend a lot of time and money saying, “How do we get to that bliss point?” If they're not going to use sugar, the question then becomes, “How do we create synthetically in the brain that same response as if we're getting the bliss point with sugar?” The chemical addiction is not an accident; it's exactly what they're trying to do, knowing that when the bliss will show up, the drug companies will make a fortune. It's a beautiful system on both ends.
Dr. Pompa:
It's amazing to me how many people are just unwilling to dig for cause. We call those people three percenters who want to dig for cause. It's not okay with them to live their life in effect like the 97 percenters. 97% of the population lives their life in effect. They never say, “You know , why is my life not the way I want it?” People that live from cause go, “What am I doing that my life's not the way I want it?” They live the life of cause.
If I get a certain set of symptoms, I'm immediately looking for what is the reason why, cause and effect. How do we avoid it? That whole system today has dumbed people down to live their life in effect and be okay with taking medication for the rest of their life. I would argue that there's conditions that that neatly fits, right, but most often it's not the case. There's a reason. You remove the cause, the body does the healing. I think you get blank stares today when you do to your doctor and you say, “Well gosh, doctor, what can I do to?”
Phil:
You get the tilt of the head and the momentary pause. They don't even address it.
Dr. Pompa:
Did you guys watch the show, and anyone out there watch the show on—Michael J. Fox did a show on happiness. He went to Tibet, which is on my bucket list, for reason why these people live the longest. There's a community there that's considered the happiest people on earth. Not only are we having people living really long lives but the happiest people on earth.
Michael J. Fox did a whole special—did you see that special?
Phil:
I didn't see it.
Dr. Pompa:
I thought it was fantastic.
Warren:
I'm sure it's on YouTube.
Dr. Pompa:
I thought Michael J. Fox did a great job. The interesting thing that probably went over most people's head was that he said, “You know, I haven't even had to take my medication since I've been here. My symptoms have virtually disappeared!” Okay, so when I heard that I said if Michael J. Fox moved there, moved to Tibet. I would. I would have been like, wait minute, there's something here that's very special.
There's something here not just being around happy people; that may have been part of the improvement. I don't know. You know what I'm saying when we say we know the mind can affect the cell, but there is something else, whether it was elevations. Something did something very magical, positive effect. He went back into his life and back into the medication. I was stunned by that!
Warren:
Remember, he probably wasn't wearing cologne. He probably wasn't drinking diet soda. He probably wasn't eating excitatory food.
Dr. Pompa:
I immediately started realizing that—
Chemical-free environment. You see because everything's about stress. When we look at how the body heals, if we can minimize the stress whether it's chemical, physical, or emotional enough, the body can start to heal. It's the bucket of stress. You know what I say when your bucket overflows, that's your bucket of stress. Meaning that all your chemicals that you've bio-accumulated drive the same stress reaction as when you're emotionally stressed because of something.
Warren:
I believe—
Dr. Pompa:
Anger, these things, everything in your life accumulates in this bucket and then this bucket doesn't adapt it anymore; it overflows. Now you're in a state of non-adapting. As soon as your body is not adapting, now you're in trouble. Now you're forming disease, whether it's cancer, heart disease, whatever your genetic weaknesses are causing things to adapt.
Phil:
Now you can handle more because you're better on the other end. I will bet there are people who will now come out with Tibet water, Tibet bread, Tibet berries because that's what they do. Michael J. Fox went to Tibet and he didn't have symptoms.
Warren:
We actually have an inroad then to Tibet.
Phil:
No, you've seen that with the Hunza Valley. Have you ever seen—
I'll tell you something interesting about Hunza, just take a little step to the side. They gauge their age based on life experience. You leave the Hunza Valley and come back, you've aged 50 years because you're wiser. When people are going there and they're saying, “I'm 120.” People say money, but that 120 year old is probably really 50. It'd be a great marketing ploy because they could go, “Here's the reason those people live so long.”
Dr. Pompa:
What age, right?
Phil:
Yeah, and they know they live because they eat these berries. They live that way because they drink that water.
Dr. Pompa:
Meanwhile they're asking people, “So how old are you?” “Well I'm 90 years old.” “Oh, my gosh!” I'm going to live in their culture, he's 90 years old.
Phil:
They've also learned that the older they say they are the more money people give them. Wow, he's 150, let's give them —
Dr. Pompa:
They're more interested. Those who have great significance and have a [love language] of significance, they're getting significance. Every time I say I'm really old I get all this attention.
Phil:
They don't get cancer, they don't get cancer. They don't die of heart disease. They did of things like dysentery. It's all a different culture, but I love what you said. It's so true that when Michael J. Fox goes to Tibet, rather than looking for what is in Tibet that's made him better, what has he stepped away from that has allowed him to recover.
Warren:
The same thing happened to me. I met Michael J. Fox when I went to Africa when I was really challenged. I didn't sleep through the night, ever, at this point. I was chronic anxiety, low energy, couldn't adapt to stress. I slept like a baby the whole time I was there. I slept long, line 12 hours. If bombs drop off I wouldn't have woken up. I felt amazing. Most of my symptoms were gone.
I'm staying with the family—the name of the family, I can't remember. Anyway, just this beautiful family and it was open air. Big thick concrete wall with open-aired windows and no chemical smells. They grew their own food, organic, no chemicals, nothing, and I slept like a baby. Somehow the help at the place would sneak in and I wouldn't even hear them and I'd have this rooibos tea and lemon —
Dr. Pompa:
I said the same thing.
Warren:
How did they get in?
Dr. Pompa:
They got in your room and you'd wake up and there was hot tea. Hot tea, that means they came in five minutes ago.
Warren:
Even my mind when I was there at the time, I knew there were chemicals but I started drinking rooibos tea. I brought baobab fruit. Probably shouldn't say that because that was probably illegal. Of course, I moved back home, or come back home from the trip and I'm all back to not sleeping again.
Dr. Pompa:
Actually we did discover something.
Warren:
Don't give away…
Dr. Pompa:
We'll talk about baobab fruit in a minute because I think it's a story that'll interest most of you. I think we've hit on something really important here. There's now this concept of people from the area of Silicon Valley, San Francisco, there's a lot of big business there, people living life high, fast and doing a lot of things. They go into the mountains and there's a group that takes these CEO's in these groups of really high functioning people at that level in the business world into the mountains and they create the most amazing ideas.
They feel amazing. I mean this is all tree-hugging stuff. These people go into the words and it's like, “My gosh it's these trees, it must be these trees.” Remember the jerk, it's the cans; the cans were exploding, it's the cans. There's a guy shooting at them. What the trees are giving off; they are, they've giving off a certain energy. They're giving off certain ions. The air is different.
Today, we have four massive things happening. We have chemical stress like no time ever.
Warren:
Including EMS.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, but chemical stress. We have the emotional stressors today because life is fast. We have the—I'm missing one, the emotional stress, the chemical, the emotional, the physical stressors. Sitting in offices is an amazing physical stress with the lack of good physical stress. Now we have something, and it's the electrowaves. It's the electromagnetic frequencies that really don't fall into the chemical world. They don't fall into the physical world, and they don't fall into the emotional world. We have a new stressor.
You take these people out of the city, out of these buildings that have so much electromagnetic frequency; it's a stressor to cells. You take them out of that environment, this stress, this stress, this stress and magic happens. You can start to do some basic detox with them and remove some of that stress. Or the bucket empties and they go—the body just starts going into the adaptation mode again. Now they're adapting and they feel well again.
Phil:
These are people sitting in a chair allowing their bodies to carry weight?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah.
Phil:
Experience more and more physical stress. As their head becomes heavy they're adding stress on their body.
Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely! It's a negative physical stress.
Phil:
They are inhaling all of the flame retardants.
Dr. Pompa:
Their whole environment… there's chemicals around them, flame retardants, bromines, cleaners. You have a chemical environment.
Phil:
On top of that now there's the invisible, what we can't see, which is what we call the wifi, which is everywhere.
Dr. Pompa:
Let me tell you a story about that. This is somebody who I have never really—going through my sickness I didn't hit the point where I noticed the effect but it's something that would really set me off. A lot of my clients cannot tolerate being near the refrigerator, for example because there's an electric frequency there. That's how bad they get.
Well we were in a new car that has the chip that you can put in to get the Internet in your car. It sounds like a really cool idea.
Warren:
Yeah, kids can get on the—
Dr. Pompa:
I was there, my son was driving, my 16 year old son; here's a little stress added, and my other two little ones were in the back and I was in the passenger seat. They wanted to continue playing some game, so my son then said, “Oh I can turn the Internet on.” Turned the Internet on and put the chip in and within moments I felt something. Oh maybe it's this, maybe it's that and I just ignored it. thinking in my mind, wow that happened just when he put that on. I didn't say anything.
My 16 year old, within five minutes, says, “I feel really weird all of a sudden. I think it's that thing. He felt the exact thing. He said, “I feel like head pressure.” He described the exact same symptoms that I said. My little ones in the back were just, yeah, they were feeling it too. I don't know if it was because we were in the front or they were younger, the bucket was bigger. I don't know. Anyway, Daniel immediately said, “Let's turn that thing off.” Turned it off and immediately we both felt this pwhaa, go away.
We both were left though for a certain set of symptoms. It took me a couple of hours before I felt normal again. Daniel was normal within about a half an hour.
Phil:
What kind of symptoms, brain fog—
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, brain fog. We both were just sunk; that's the only way we could describe it. It happened to me again. If you have the hotspot thing, right, your thumb. My hotspot was on—
Phil:
Don't point that thing at me!
Dr. Pompa:
I put the thing—my hotspot was on and I had the phone next to my ear and I got that same feeling, much more mild so the signal must not have been strong.
Warren:
You didn't know that was on.
Dr. Pompa:
I didn't know it was on. I was like, “Gosh I had those feelings again.” I literally started looking for electro because I identified feelings and I turned off. The point is this, you're sick, you don't feel well, you have a certain set of symptoms, you don't have the energy you used to have. I believe we have an innate intelligence within our body where the body is adapting it can heal, and it will heal. There is a limitation in that meaning that your body can—we can't expect, what's see the analogy I'm looking for, I had a really good one in my mind. There's a limitation to what your body is able to do, a limitation to the matter in your cells.
If I smash my hand with a hammer, there's only so much healing—even if I had no interference, perfect, absolutely—there's still going to be permanent damage. There's a limitation to matter because this is not divine.
There's a limitation to your matter that limits you—the point is if your body is able to adapt, your body can heal. What's keeping it from adapting, and I think that's the question we should all ask ourselves if you want to go to the next level. Even if you feel healthy watching this, I'm a healthy guy I want to be healthier, I want for perform better, everything about physical performance, Phil, is about adaptation. Good trainers are always looking at their clients and saying, how can I get you to do that.
Phil:
Good trainers, not most trainers.
Dr. Pompa:
I said good. How can we get you to adapt. I was saying the other day about Lance Armstrong put massive time into training hard, stressing the body at its limits and then most of his time into resting, adapting, really—that creates the strength.
Phil:
You know what's funny? When people hear Lance Armstrong as a reference they pay attention. Whatever he's doing I want to do. I asked you the question once because you deal with a lot of people, and I'm going to use a word. By the time they get to you, they're crazy.
Dr. Pompa:
I was crazy too.
Phil:
Okay, so you understand. They're crazy because they're affected by things that—so the common person cannot be. In other words, somebody says, “Every time I go near by refrigerator my head feels like it's melting.” They fall into the category of, “This is a crazy person.”
Warren:
The body's telling him something.
Phil:
I really think it's the old canary and the hormone thing. If it's affecting people whose bucket has overflowed at that level, then it must be affecting you and everybody else. They're still putting stuff in their pocket.
Phil:
Yeah. All of these things, I think we look at these people who are crazy, where we once were, it's not so much they're crazy, it's the world doesn't understand them.
Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely!
Phil:
That's what happens. You become isolated and feel very alone because nobody quite gets it. Can you imagine that feeling trying to tell somebody, you have to unscrew that lightbulb, it's affecting me. Oh my God, got to be committed. Really this is an extreme of what I think everybody is experiencing.
Dr. Pompa:
Well that's the point I think we're making. We have things that are affecting our body's inability, or ability, to adapt. Imagine this; imagine if you're in a [pool] of doctors, if every doctor is trained from school that when somebody comes into their office, they would say, “Hm, you're not adapting. Let's figure out what’s in your life that's keeping you from adapting because ultimately that's the solution to you feeling better. How can we get your body to adapt at a higher level? What can we remove from your body to empty that bucket so your body in fact does adapt?” Isn't that everything? Isn't that what a good trainer does? It's like if we can get you to adapt, we can get you stronger and better.
Well when I have a client who is very sick, I look at that person. Something's keeping their innate intelligence, that something that God put in their body from healing, you know we got to deal with it not adapting. We change their lifestyle. We detox them at the cellular level. Ultimately it does boil down to what's happening in the cell, but ultimately, it's just simply taking the stressors out of their life.
Phil:
When you talk about adaptation, there's another piece of this adaptation we recognize so we bring about change because there's adaptation. When somebody adapts, the change stops. In other words that stimulus is no longer bringing about change. When somebody has to go through something difficult, a detox the first time they do it, it is difficult. It is perceived as a stress, but it is the necessary stress that allows them to move to the next level of adaptation. I think when practitioners and trainers and doctors start to understand that, patient care becomes very different than it is today.
Dr. Pompa:
It's safe to say that there's no way to avoid all stress. It's whether you're adapting at the cellular level or adapt —
Phil:
Yeah because we then have to be open to the patient. It has to be open to the idea that this will be hard. What we're going to ask you to do is going to be hard. Taking a pill is easy, this is a little harder because you have to swallow 17 pills but it's just much easier than what Dr. Pompa's going to ask you to do. We want the stress that's going to bring positive adaptation and we want to improve your health.
Dr. Pompa:
Positive adaptation, yeah, I think that's the thing. The way people look at exercise, it's a stress folks. When you're exercising, you're creating a stress. Now that can be very negative. A lot of my clients, they can't exercise because it's a stress they don't adapt to so it makes them more sick. It makes them feel worse. Therefore, something that helps many people becomes a negative.
I know when I was sick some people say, just pick up your boot straps and exercise more. Now I've got people's attention because there's a lot of guilt of saying, I know that my husband or my wife when they exercise they have more energy, so I just exercise more. They exercise more and the next day they feel worse. They feel more tired. What's happening is you're not adapting to a stress that makes somebody else stronger because they're adapting.
I think we can look at that as anything. We're never going to get rid of all the chemicals in our life, but see when you empty your stress bucket, now you're adapting to those chemicals. Therefore you can live life, not that too much of anything like that, too much of any stressor's going to send your body overflow, but the key is adaptation.
Phil:
This is kind of a miracle of a child taking on a bacterial infection and their immune system developing to fight it. It is the stressor and then the adaptation that actually makes them stronger. If the stressor becomes overwhelming or they can't recover, then you start to get negative adaptation. Things like that.
Dr. Pompa:
It's the whole negative of [helicopter] parents. Sorry moms and dads that are out there that are helicopter parents but it's true. If you're trying to take away every stress from your child, you're going to do your child a disservice because now all of a sudden when there's an unavoidable stress, they don't know how to react, they don't know how to adapt.
Our immune systems are the same way. Using every antibacterial thing, we're actually killing off defenses that our body puts out to adapt. That's an adaptation that our body forms these bacteria. Therefore, if we kill that now we've just killed our body's natural adaptation because we think we're going to beat the germ, we think we're going to beat the stress, we're not, bad philosophy.
Gosh, there's a lot here; this is a great subject. I think it is a great subject. So many people are sick today. I believe the root of why people aren't getting well today, I believe we're at the root of why…
Phil:
You guys were champing off right now by doing show, bad advice. When people say, “Just exercise, you'll feel better.” You just explained how in many cases that could be the wrong thing to do. One of the most frequently heard expressions I hear related to nutrition, everything in moderation, which means diets only in moderation.
Dr. Pompa:
Moderation for you is different to moderation for me.
Phil:
That's the worst advice.
Dr. Pompa:
Yes, it is.
Phil:
Eat things that are really bad for you just a little; that's moderation. I think that people are—remember Lucy in Charlie Brown had a little advice stand, the doctor is in. That's people; they're playing amateur psychologist, saying, “Oh yes, stop eating carbs.” Oh yes. Eat everything in moderation. This is okay but you have to limit —
They're not experts and I think there's this idea that everybody knows, but what's interesting is if you look at the ‘everybody' they're suffering as much as the person they're giving advice to.
Dr. Pompa:
When comments like that are made, they trigger something in all of us that sounds so, “They're right, so logical.”
Warren:
Don't complicate your life.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. It sounds so logical. Yeah because we all heard that, yeah moderation, you're right. Then it almost gives you a license then to go back to the same moderation that got you sick, by the way. What moderation is what you're doing every day, day in, day out.
Phil:
Right so there's my little bit of aspartame, there's my little bit of crystal meth; I'm just going to do everything in moderation.
Dr. Pompa:
A little bit of arsenic.
Phil:
With some vegetables, little bit of vegetables.
Dr. Pompa:
That's good.
Phil:
There's balance, yes.
Dr. Pompa:
It's easier to get people to eat a little bit of vegetables or take that green juice powder and go, I'm doing healthy things, right. Then really look at their entire life. They would rather add something to an unhealthy life, and say, “Now I'm really doing well because I'm drinking juice.” When people get around me they immediately start saying these things that they've had. “I'm drinking a lot juice; I'm juicing now.” Are you still drinking your soda? Are you still eating your white bread? “Yeah, but I'm juicing”.
Warren:
You might think this is weird and we got to wrap up, it's a 40-minute show today. I've looked at probably about 20 houses; I'm looking for a new home, potentially. What I do, I'm looking in the cupboard for space but I'm taking mental pictures of what's in the cupboards. I'm able to sample and get into the homes of 20 people. Call that weird but I'm really looking to see what—not me, when you look in my cupboard it's way different to Dr. Pompa's. Before in a past show, you went into his cupboard but I notice what they have.
What I do see is the castor fish oil, the multivitamin, and maybe a green drink, and then a, I won't promote them, but a Ninja or a bullet or something like that, so I know these people are trying to be healthy. Then sometimes I notice medications, most times. That's not because I'm looking for it; I'm looking for cupboard space. That's America. They're on medications and they're trying to do the fish oil. They're exercising; they have a workout—I see a big workout ball, some dumbbell's that they're probably not using but that's what I see. Fish oil, a green drink, a magic bullet and —
Dr. Pompa:
A workout device in the corner.
Warren:
A workout device in the corner or some sort of thing they bought on TV and that's it. I look at pictures, not that I'm judging, you're beautiful people, but they're all overweight or inflamed looking. You wouldn't look at them and say, “Hey, you're overweight.” For me, you're skinny, fat or you're inflamed; this person isn't healthy. I don't say that from an arrogance standpoint. It breaks my heart because these people are doing the wrong things because they're taking the moderate advice.
Phil:
Have you heard doctors, mainstream doctors, MDs, saying all the patient wants is medication. They don't want to take responsibility. Have you heard that?
Dr. Pompa:
All the time!
Phil:
Yeah.
Warren:
That frustrates the doctor a lot of the time.
Phil:
Yeah, it frustrates the doctor because the person comes in asking for medication that either their friend told them that was bad advice, or a TV commercial, so they're just following orders. They're coming in and asking for the medication. There's an example of bad advice. The people you're talking about, they tried.
Warren:
They already tried.
Phil:
Says nothing about the people being lazy.
Warren:
No, not at all, not all.
Phil:
This has everything to do with wrong information, misinformation and disinformation. When you come along, these are the people that need rescuing, and the rescue comes from the right information. The question is where do they get it.
Dr. Pompa:
When Warren went through those things, all of them, all 180° principle, meaning that the funny thing is that the truth is exact opposite. All those things, even down to the fish oil that they think is helping them is actually hurting them. What got you here, the answer always lies 180°s in the opposite direction. That's it. We really evaluated how someone got there in their life not happy with certain things, the answer is opposite. When everyone's making a right, make a left; there your answer lies. That's it! That's our principle, man, cellular 180°s opposite.
Warren:
Cellular Healing TV, great episode. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for jumping in, Phil. Share it with a friend. We share truth, cellularhealing.tv. Share us and like us on iTunes as well. Have a great rest of your day, or weekend.
Dr. Pompa:
The article, real fast, the Michael J. Fox article, is it up on the site?
Warren:
Yeah, if you went the drpompa.com, you could go underneath Articles but it should be also that front banner that shows up, make it really easy. It took me probably five seconds, and I'll save you the time configuring out, but the lettering looks like “Back to the Future”. Where did they use that lettering? I'm like, “Oh yes! Michael J. Fox” “Back to the Future”, great show. I'm from the '80s. Watch Michael J. Fox this weekend. Watch some “Back to the Future”.
Dr. Pompa:
Read the article.
Warren:
Think about what led up to his demise and do the 180° opposite. Don't drink diet soda guys. Get your life back. Have a great rest of your day. Bye.
