Transcript of Episode 63: How Amalgams Can Affect Your Health
With Dr. Daniel Pompa, PSc.D and David Asarnow.
David: Hello, everyone. I want to welcome you to another episode of Cellular Healing TV. This is David Asarnow, and I am here with Dr. Pompa. Good morning, Dr. Pompa.
Dr. Pompa: Good morning.
David: Today’s an exciting show because we’re going to talk about a topic that we’ve discussed certain components of it, but we’ve never had a show that was 100% focused in on diseases that actually stem from our mouth. I mean, in fact, I’ve worked with a lot of dentists, and we’ve had a lot of discussions in regard to this, and they say that over 70% of disease actually starts from poor mouth hygiene, amalgams, cavitations, galvanism, root canals. So this is going to be a pretty exciting show.
Dr. Pompa: Yeah. It is. It’s a big show because I’m always teaching this, David. If you don’t go upstream and find the cause of an illness, then you’ll never get well. I don’t care what medications you take. I don’t care how many supplements, vitamins. I don’t care how good you eat. You’re never going to get rid of those symptoms that you don’t like if you don’t get rid of the source. By the way, David, that’s R1 in the 5R’s of how you fix the cell and how you detox the cell, right, but it is. It’s estimated—I believe it’s higher than 70% that all disease starts in the mouth, right, but when we say that, people are thinking, “Oh, yeah, right.” They may have heard the heart disease component, right? May or may not, but those bacteria that are nasty and getting to a what we call an abnormal oral microbiome could actually end up in the heart and actually cause heart problems. End up in the arteries, and drive inflammation of the arteries, and drive heart problems, and David, you had said that. But I think the diseases we don’t think about are all the unexplainables, chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia. Just all the unexplainable hormone related conditions from thyroid, to weight loss resistance, to—I mean, the list piles up when you look at what this right here can cause. And I know people watching this, new people, are thinking what does he mean? I mean, how can—where is it starting from? Yeah, we’ve heard him talk about amalgam fillings, right? It was part of how I got sick, but I’m talking about stuff beyond amalgam fillings. Yes, that is part of the problem, but it goes beyond that. This mouth and its relationship to the bacteria that affect the bacteria in your gut, I’m pointing down here, it will affect this brain here and your whole immune system. It all starts right here.
David: It’s interesting. We talk about mouth, and we talk about—well, most people, if they’re new here, say, “Well, I go to the dentist twice a year. I get my teeth cleaned. I brush my teeth every day. I’ve got good oral hygiene. Is that enough?”
Dr. Pompa: Yeah, well, it’s showing that it’s not enough because I would have to say this. Every client that—and I treat unexplainable illnesses from all over the world, right? I shouldn’t say treat. I coach unexplainable illnesses, people, from all over the world, and I can promise you, David, all of them have excellent oral hygiene habits. Meaning they all brush their teeth at least twice a day. They all—well, I would say at least 50% of them floss every day. I mean, they all have the same really good habits that, hopefully, you and I have. But again, they’re sick, and yet, most of the time we look here with a problem. So it’s not enough.
David: Let’s talk about one by one. Where would you like to talk—where would you like to go first? Should we talk about how galvanism and some of things that you experienced?
Dr. Pompa: Yeah, I mean, we can start there. Look, I mean, everybody knows that amalgam fillings have 50% mercury in them. I mean, not everybody watching this show knows that, but I mean in the scientific world. Fifty percent mercury these fillings contain. The old days, the ADA would say, “Well, it’s sealed up in the amalgam. It doesn’t leach out.” That was proven completely wrong. Every scientific body understands that the mercury does leach. So then they moved to a different statement. They moved to a statement that said, “Well, it leaches, okay, but it doesn’t leach in amounts that are causing damage to humans.” Well, look, I mean, volumes of literature say otherwise. Rather it’s the World Health Organization, any government body around the planet really understands that the stuff comes out in amounts that is higher than what our EPA allows any human to be exposed to on a daily basis. I mean, four or five, ten times the amounts. Just by having a couple fillings in your mouth, amalgam fillings, those are the silver fillings, by the way, that they leach more than anybody says is safe, and they’re doing it day in, day out. Every time you drink hot coffee. Every time you brush your teeth. Every time saliva goes across the amalgams, it’s an acid, it releases mercury. Of course, when you’re drinking hot coffee or chewing gum, it’s coming out in volumes. Again, David, it’s not my opinion. It’s not anybody’s opinion. It’s simple fact that the mercury from those fillings ends up in our brains. As a matter of fact, according to many studies, one published in the most prestigious scientific journal on the planet, FASEB, showed the number of silver fillings in your mouth is proportionate on how much mercury is in your brain. Not just in your brain, but in your pituitary hypothalamus. That’s what runs your whole endocrine system: thyroid, adrenals, your hormones, so this—of course amalgams are a major problem.
David: Now there’s two questions that I have in regards to amalgams then. A), people may be listening, especially if they’re a new viewer or listener, and saying, “Well, the dentists say that they’re safe, and they’re still using them,” and B), “Well, then don’t I just take them out?” I know that that can cause even more problems for people who just take them out.
Dr. Pompa: First of all, the dentists are listening to their protected—or the governing body. The ADA, of course, makes these statements because they have to. However, if that dentist looked into it, he would be shocked that he’d been lied to. So far, 100% of the dentists who have looked into the topic beyond what the ADA’s talking points are have come to me, and said, “Whoops. Yeah. I didn’t know that.” Again, it just takes a little bit of investigation, not too hard, to realize, wow, there’s a whole other side to the story. Look, most of the countries of the world, David, are banning these things. There’s bans on them everywhere, except here in the United States. Look, almost every year before Congress there is—because due to public outcry, they look, and they want to bring amalgam to what—label it to what it should be labeled as far as from OSHA goes or from safety standards. Right now, when it’s in your mouth—well, let me back up. Before it goes into your mouth, it’s a hazard, a Type 2 hazard, according to OSHA. I’m sorry, Type 3, meaning that it is considered hazardous waste. The moment it goes in your mouth, same material now, now it’s downgraded to a Type 2 hazard. It’s not hazardous waste anymore. Well, how does this happen? Arguably, because it’s in an acid state, it’s actually more dangerous. For any reason, it should be upgraded. At least, let’s call it the same. Hazardous waste in your mouth not fit to be put in a human. The moment it comes out and hits the dental tray again, oh, now it’s magically downgraded again to—or I’m sorry, upgraded again to hazardous waste the moment it hits the dental tray. Look, I mean, this stuff is polluting the environment, more from a dental office than any outside environmental source. That’s, again, not my opinion. So if you’re someone who is concerned about the environment, well, what about this amalgam filling? It’s getting brushed under the rug. To me, more importantly it’s this. It’s poisoning humans. I was one of them. All you need is some genetically bad detox pathways to get rid of heavy metals, and in 20, 30 years, these things that have been in your mouth, it bioaccumulates in your brain, and now, hormonally, you’re not right. It doesn’t matter how many hormones you take, how much supplements you take, or what diet you eat, and again, those doctors out there that think you’re going to—they’re going to get you well. If you’re seeing a doctor and you still have your fillings in, shame on him because how in the world is he going to get you well with the mercury leaching into your brain, into your body, into your gut, disrupting this microbiome, which we’re going to talk about in a minute. You’re not going to get well. But David, the answer to the second part of your question is do not, I repeat, do not just run out and get these fillings just drilled out. Now, we have a pre-amalgam protocol that we put people on. David, we’re training doctors around the country on all these protocols. We have a protocol that we do during the removal, and go to a dentist, which we call a biological dentist. I’ll give you a website right now. It’s iaomt.org, iaomt.org to find a safer dentist, but just because they’re in that organization does not mean they’re removing amalgams correctly. I would say most are, but a lot of them joined the organization—obviously, it does bring them some business, so ask questions. How are they…
David: And ask…
Dr. Pompa: Go ahead.
David: And ask the right question. I was going to say, ask the right questions because if they remove them improperly—and in previous shows, I’ve heard you talk about how it can cause even greater problems because of that street sweeper effect. Just for the sake of time, go back and watch the show where I interviewed Dr. Grieco, Dr. Derek Grieco. It’s one of these shows that you can go back and it’s backlogged, and we talk more about the safe protocol for removal. Look, I’ll say this at least. You better make sure they’re covering your air space. You better have outside air or oxygen so you’re not breathing the vapor when they’re drilling into that filling. Because when they start hitting that filling with a drill and it’s hot, that mercury vapor explodes. We have—they use a back suction to create negative air pressure to pull the vapor that way and cover your pathways so multiple strategies to make it safe. There’s a pre-program. There’s a program we do. We put a binding agent in called BIND before and after. Then there’s—we also do some vitamin C flushes the day after each removal, and then, the most important mistake of all—or the most important thing of all and the mistake most often made is, four days after the last one comes out, you have to start the proper detox. If you don’t, there’s a honeymoon period of six to nine months, and then, all of a sudden, the “crazies” start. And they never relate it back to the beginning when the fillings out. Once those fillings come out, the body starts to release the mercury. Some people feel better. Many people, in a short period of time, feel worse. You have to detox once the last filling comes out, and another caution, you cannot do true heavy metal detox with those amalgams in your mouth. You cannot. And I urge everyone watching this to read an article that I wrote called When Detox is Dangerous. It’s on my website under articles, When Detox is Dangerous. There’s three parts. Please read that, and you’ll get way more details than I’m covering here. David, that’s the amalgam thing. Now there is something else that I said is a hidden, hidden danger. I would say that the people with all these unexplainable illnesses that come to me and I interview them, many of them have this as a problem, and it’s hidden, and they don’t understand it, and it happened to me. I would say it is the thing that sent me over the edge. It’s something called galvanism, and galvanism simply means you have a battery effect going on in your mouth. You have these silver fillings, and then you have a crown that has a different type of metal, or you have a gold filling, or maybe you have a titanium plate, but bottom line is you have opposing metals, two different metals, in an acid. That’s your saliva. It creates a battery. That’s what a battery is, two opposing metals in an acid. It creates a charge that now causes that mercury to pour out of those fillings. I had a gold—two gold fillings put in in the back. They took out an amalgam, so that vaporized from the amalgam. And by the way, Dr. Derek Grieco, who did the show that I told you to watch, he actually did this to me. He repented. No, he has changed his ways. Trust me. Yeah, nicest guy, but it took years, David. I brought him stuff, and I said, “Derek, I love you.” He was one of my best friends. I said, “But you need to read this. This is how I ended up sick,” and he didn’t want to hear that, and he’s so nice, and of course. But it was two years later that he came back. He said, “Dan, I want to take you to dinner,” and took Merily and I to dinner, and he said, “First, I want to apologize.” I’m like, “Why?” He’s like, “That stuff you gave me, I never read it until recently. You were right,” and he’s like, “and I was wrong, and obviously, dinner’s on me tonight.” And he’s like, “And I was—I’m bringing you here to tell me what to do. How do I change my practice?” So that’s an amazing story.
David: And he did change his practice because of that, and he’s—I mean, this is what he focuses in on.
Dr. Pompa: That’s it. I mean, safe dentistry is huge. Seventy percent of the disease starts here. We’re going to talk more, but here’s the bottom line. He put these gold fillings in. I still had probably four to six amalgams in my mouth, created this galvanism, and it was just downhill from there. It took me years to figure out what was actually going on. So these people that have these different metals in their mouth from bridges, crowns, and then they still have fillings in, danger, danger. It is a disaster. Even the electrical component causes anxiety, and sleep problems, and—as a matter of fact, when I got that out, and I took that galvanism out of my mouth, it was like an absolute amazing difference. I just felt different. I told Merily driving home, “God, I feel different.” I remember, Jay, one of our friends, he had some titanium taken out of his mouth, the same thing. It was like, wow. Driving home it was like he felt everything, his head clearing, his sinuses clearing. That galvanism, just the electrical current causes a problem, and David, many dentists today believe there shouldn’t be any metal in the mouth because it creates a current that the brain obviously cannot handle. So, again, removing the source, we have to look at galvanism and amalgam fillings, but David, it goes further.
David: Go ahead.
Dr. Pompa: No, no. Go ahead. You had a question, but there’s two other…
David: I was going to ask—so here’s a question. There’s all these different type of white composite fillings. Do any of those have metals in them, and is there any concern with them using different composites in your mouth?
Dr. Pompa: Yeah. I mean, I think one of the safest filling today is the ceramic fillings, which are really inert, really strong. The technology’s come a long way, and then I would say the composite. There’s not metal in it, but the composite fillings, which I have many—I mean, there are BPA and some other chemicals in there that leach out over a few years. Now, look, unlike a filling, the silver fillings, I don’t care if it’s 25 years old—you’ve watched the video on YouTube. That 25 year old amalgam is still off-gassing mercury like it was the—as a matter of fact, arguably, it gets worse as it -inaudible-, right, but with these fillings, they do—a lot of the chemicals are off-gassed in the beginning, and it does dissipate. I’ve looked at the studies over time. However, even these fillings have gotten safer because they even have BPA-free fillings now, so—because composite has some of these plastic components to it. But again, they’ve gotten even safer, but far safer, David, than mercury. That’s for sure.
David: Where should we go next, root canals or cavitations?
Dr. Pompa: Well, I think that they’re both another massively hidden source that happens in people and they don’t know it, but let’s start with a root canal because everybody knows what a root canal is. Cavitation is a different story, but a root canal—look, it’s not, again, my opinion. Most people that have been around safe dentistry for a long time will tell you that there is not one safe root canal. A gentleman, a scientist out of the University of Kentucky named Boyd Haley, did a study having these biological dentists send them removed root canals, which they were calling safe root canals or root canals that were asymptomatic. They didn’t have symptoms associated with them. In 100% of them, had anaerobic bacteria in and around the materials, anaerobic bacteria or bacteria that can survive without oxygen, and they’d get in these root canals, and I’ll explain how. I’ll probably have to draw this, but they get in the root canals, David, because they’re sealed in there. So let’s say you have a cavity, and they say, “Oh, the root is now—the bacteria has affected the root.” So they go in. They take out the root. That’s what a root canal is. Now what’s left is the dead tooth, but the structure is still there, right, the bone that’s in there, but the root is gone. So they take it all out, and then they seal it in, and then they put the fake tooth on the top or the crown on top of it. Okay, that’s basically what a root canal is. So if I could give you a visual. I don’t know if this will work.
David: I’ll freeze it on your screen.
Dr. Pompa: Okay, hold on. Let me draw this up. I’m going to try to draw this as best I can.
David: It’s interesting. When it—I mean, luckily, I’ve never had any of that, so knock on wood. Well, I wouldn’t now anyway, but it just seems so routine and common, and it’s like when you hear about all of this and all the possibilities for bacteria and decay, and that these mercury, and that—it’s very scary.
Dr. Pompa: It should be scary because this is how people get sick, David. All right, ah, my artwork. Okay, so here’s the tooth, right? Okay, so under your gum line—imagine this as being your gum line. Under here is where they extracted the root. So the root came down into here, all right? So they removed this root, and then they seal this off, okay? So this gets sealed. The problem is is there’s literally miles and miles of something called microtubules. These are these little tubes that connect into your bloodstream. I’m drawing arteries and sinus cavities, but these microtubules connect into here. When this is sealed, the problem is, David, these microorganisms, these anaerobic bacteria are sealed into these microtubules, and now, they cause infection that chronically, continually leach these anaerobic bacteria into your bloodstream. Many of them make their way into your gut. Many of them make their way systemically throughout your body. So the problem is is that we seal in these anaerobic bacteria, and so we create a chronic low-grade infection that poisons you slowly. I can’t tell you how many clients I’ve had that get out their root canals, and now, all of a sudden, all their gut allergies go away, all their food allergies, all this problem because they removed a nasty toxic source. I got my root canal out. It was never bothering me. I had no pain. Because the dentist, typically, who said, “Oh, if there’s no pain, you have no infection.” Baloney, it’s not true. These things, all root canals, according to many studies, are dangerous. As a matter of fact, if you google, folks, root canals and breast cancer, watch what comes up. Root canals and cancer period, root canals and throat cancer, thyroid cancer, watch what comes up. These bacteria arguably are more toxic than mercury, so these are major disease causers. If someone has a root canal and they are sick and don’t know what’s wrong, then, look, I mean, you need to get these things removed. So it is a massive problem, and David, yet, there’s one more problem. There’s something called cavitation that releases the same type of these bacteria, anaerobic bacteria. Many people watching this have gotten wisdom teeth removed. When they pull the wisdom teeth out, it can heal over, and if there’s a little bit of the ligament left that holds the tooth in place or any other type of material, infection will create underneath where it healed, and it creates what is called a cavitation, basically, a low-grade infection that typically causes no pain. These bacteria, just like the root canal, end up systemic throughout our body; so many people have these cavitations and don’t know it. There’s a thing called a Cavitat machine that it uses ultra sound to identify them because many people watching us, “Well, how do I know?” Well, it’s very difficult because they don’t always show up on X–ray until they’re very big. Someone very trained into looking at X-ray can look at these lucencies, and they can maybe determine that that might be one. Then they can take a drill and drill in, and it—kinda like, David, if you’re looking for stud in your drywall, right? If you drill in, brmm, and miss the stud, it kind of just falls right in. If you hit the stud, it’s solid all the way through. Well, that’s kind of what they can do. They can go in, and drill in, and if it falls in, then that could, in fact, be a cavitation. So how they fix is they go in and decavitate it. They clear out the infection once they find it and remove it, and remarkably, people get better when they remove these massive toxins.
David: It’s scary, and so many times when I talk with you it’s like new things come up that I never even thought of. I mean, even like when we had that one-on-one conversation when we were down in Florida, and I’m remembering now. My grandfather was in his early 70’s, and he had some teeth pulled. And he got what was called the dry socket, and literally, for the next two years, it never healed. And he was in constant pain, and then, all of a sudden, he got brain cancer. He got lung cancer. He literally had cancer all over his body within a year from that happening.
Dr. Pompa: Yeah. Yeah. These anaerobic bacteria are cancer causers. They disrupt the microbiome in the gut, and so many people today have that disruption, which leads to autoimmune, which leads to all types of allergies and inflammation, not feeling well, joint pain. I mean, we can go on and on, and again, a lot of these people with these bacteria, via root canals or cavitations, they seem to have a lot of pain disorders too. I don’t know why, but it settles in the joints. It drives different types of arthritis, autoimmune. So I mean, these are places that most people don’t look. So when they say that 70% of all disease starts in the mouth, well, of course because we have the most toxic things. Anaerobic bacteria, it drives inflammation to every cell in the body. Mercury, well, third most toxic thing on planet earth, I mean, so it’s no surprise. And we know now more than ever that this microbiome that starts in the mouth and goes all the way through all of our intestines and large intestine, stomach, this bacteria is really what controls how our brain works. I mean, we make neurotransmitters for our brain to work, and feel normal, and not be depressed, and have normal brain function because of the bacteria in our gut and if people would understand that. We’ve done multiple shows on that where these bacteria actually create these chemicals that your brain needs. If you don’t have enough of these bacteria, you don’t create enough of these chemicals and your brain doesn’t work. There’s this amazing connection between the two brains that you’ve heard because if you’ve watched the yogurt commercials on television, that they say that 70 to 80% of your immune system is in your gut. Well, what do they mean by that? Well, there’s certain bacteria that if you don’t have high enough numbers of, you don’t produce a certain amount of immune cells. There’s even things in that—you’ve heard me talk about autoimmune. There’s cells called T regulatory cells that tell our immune system that everything’s okay. When you don’t have enough of a bacteria called bacteroides fragilis, for example, you don’t make enough of these T regulatory cells. The DNA from these bacteria share their information, and they literally help us create these T regulatory cells that tell our immune system everything’s okay. When you don’t have enough of these bacteria, your immune system doesn’t get that message because there’s not enough of these T regulatory cells to regulate it, and therefore, you go autoimmune. You have allergies to pollens. You have food allergies. So again, microbiome, it’s a big part of what we do. David, I call it part of the three-legged stool, right? I mean, we have the gut component, bacteria related. We have the cause, right? We have the other leg of the stool that’s the cause, right? We’re talking about today some of these things right here, and David, you were living in a moldy home, right? You had a mold exposure when you were younger caused problems. Well, that could be that part that creates the problems in the gut, but there’s another component. These causes, whether it’s these bacteria, whether it’s mercury, whether it’s mold, they turn on certain genes, and once we trigger these genes, we have to turn them off. So that three-legged stool is really how we get sick, but it’s also how we can get well. We have to turn off those genes, but the only way to do it is to get rid of these stressors that we’re talking about today and others that we haven’t talked about today, and that also, we have to fix this microbiome. David, this is so dangerous because those toxins alone can just turn on these genes of susceptibility, but they also wipe out our microbiome. So it’s a lose-lose or a win-win for the bad guys. That’s why the mouth is so, so, so critical to, really, people being healthy.
David: Yeah, absolutely, this has been a fantastic show. Any final thoughts to leave to our listeners and viewers?
Dr. Pompa: Yeah, I mean, I would read those articles that I wrote, When Detox is Dangerous, because I do talk about these things. Go back and watch the show with Dr. Grieco, and we’re going to have some other dentists on in the future because they’ve said, “Dr. Pompa, I really want to come on your show,” and I just had one text me two weeks ago, probably, saying, “I really want to come on your show and talk about the pitfalls in dentistry.” So I really want to do that show again, but listen, don’t just run to your dentist and drill these fillings out. You have to go to someone who understands, and again, caution. Once they do come out, you have to do the right detox. And then there is a different detox for getting rid of these anaerobic bacteria, so there’s a process here. David, that’s why we’re training doctors around the country on these protocols. We take pride in knowing that we are doctors who’ve gone upstream to look for the cause. It’s not about more vitamins and minerals. It’s not about more medications. Although those things can all be helpful at times, but they are crutches. You have to remove the source, R1. That’s the big takeaway. Remove the source. 70%, at least, is coming from here, so hopefully, that helps.
David: Awesome. Thank you, Dr. Pompa. Thank you, everyone, for tuning into another episode of Cellular Healing TV, and we look forward to seeing you next week. Have a great weekend.
Dr. Pompa: Absolutely.