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48: Cellular Detoxification

Transcript of Episode 48: Cellular Detoxification

With Dr. Daniel Pompa and Warren Phillips.


Warren: Alright, we are live. Cellular Healing TV, episode 48, take 2. If you were with us just a few minutes ago, the sound wasn't working. That's why we had to restart the show.

Dr. Pompa: That's what happens when you do these things remote. You've got to take a show on the road, there's' risks every time.

Warren: The good news is Dr. Pompa and I are together this weekend. We flew out to have some business meetings and really meet with a couple biochemists. Shayne Morris, another friend of ours, Dr. Brian Capra. Looking to bring this mission forward in the New Year even more. The big part of what we discussed literally with Dr. Shayne, Dr. Brian, is this topic of detoxification and how it really aligns with our philosophy, which is remove the interference, the body does the healing. It's not about covering symptoms with supplements. It's about really getting the root cause of disease and dysfunction.

Dr. Pompa: That's how we got our life back.

Warren: It is how we got our life back. This topic with—who was your patient, I'm sorry.

Dr. Pompa: Terry.

Warren: Terry!

Dr. Pompa: Last week we got so many questions on—very briefly, I described what is our core, what we really do with all of our detox and how we utilize this system to detox the cells. It's been around for a while. This is something that has evolved that, like I said, we utilized getting our life back. It's evolved from there. Better products, better methods, honestly. I shared a little bit with Terry and what he did. I did on this little tablet, so we got a lot of questions. Maybe you couldn't see it. I'm going to do it in a bigger version today. Really, this is the core of cellular detox and what we do. Again, this is one of these things that's so unique, it's so different on how we do this, and it works. It is really the real deal. This is not a foot bath, and you've heard me say this. All these different detoxification methods out there, they may do some things, but it really doesn't get people well, because it doesn't get to the core problem. That's the cell. I'm going to go over that today. Then I talked about how we utilize this system within very specific detoxification such as heavy metals, mold, Lyme. You name it, we utilize this system with specific chelators. We talked about heavy metals, in this case, and how we utilize this system within heavy metals using very specific chelators for metals. I talked about that, and we got so many questions. I wrote three articles on this topic of heavy metals, so if you haven't read them, go to the site and make sure you have read them. They are going to explain a lot. Putting it all together, that's what this show's about. I think that it's going to do a really good job of that today. The other really important thing was, is that Terry talked about a new chelator that we use. People asked a lot of questions about this new chelator. I'm going to talk about that, why it's so unique. I'm going to tell you right now, it is backordered. You can't get it for a couple weeks, so don't call yet. Wait until sometime in February. The bottom line is, we want to show you how these work within this cellular detoxification system. That's the show today.

Warren: The really cool thing that we get to do as health enthusiasts—leaders, I would say, because we have thousands of doctors following your work. Also, our group of 60 that we work with intimately, they get the results that you do, quite honestly. They're incredible physicians and health coaches. We get these—our core belief system is remove the interference, body does the healing. We're not about pushing a product, potion, or lotion. When we got sick, heavy metals was true and dear to my heart, with my chemistry background, my masters level work in that, cleaning up heavy metals in abandoned mines—if you watched the previous part of the show, I got into that too much, actually, so I'm going to hold off there. In nature, they are true chelators and they bind. In my studies, even in the environmental world and in my research, my personal research, I put a whole—I have a huge, thick, masters' level thesis that was on chelation and the binding of heavy metals in soils. There's different ways to do it. You can bind them with clays. You have drank the bentonite clay. There is some validity to that.

Dr. Pompa: It's a weak bind.

Warren: It is a weak bind.

Dr. Pompa: It doesn't get to the cell.  It binds it in the gut.

Warren: Yeah, plants. Plants have a structure that can uptake and bind metals. Thus, chlorella. Do they do it when it's dead and it's live? Do they do it in a lab and when it's in your body? There's all these things. There's also things like zeolite, and that's where the new product that we tested with many of our practitioners, the new CytoDetox drops which hopefully will be ready in February—

Dr. Pompa: I don't even want to go down that road yet, because I want them to see the system.

Warren: I just want to define chelation. That was it.

Dr. Pompa: Chelation means grab onto. Again, most of these products that we test that people bring, they don't work, frankly. There was a zeolite model used years ago that they put into a liquid, and it didn't work. Simply, it didn't work because it wouldn't cross the gut. It was just too big. Yeah, it bound things up in the gut, but it didn't cross the gut. You brought up chlorella and all these things. Chlorella once it's dead, really, they call it the metal magnet. It really doesn't do much at all, especially at the cellular level. There is a lot of myths. There's a lot of pitfalls when it comes to heavy metal. In those articles, I really describe that. When you're dealing with a lot of herbals and some of these things, there are very weak binds. It's like stirring up the bees' nest. You just end up stirring around the metals instead of really getting them out of the body.

Warren: I'll give an example. I do want to get into this. I just thought it was important to lay that groundwork. For instance, if you took heavy metals and mixed up some clay, those molecules will bind those weak clay molecules. We'll just call it like that. They're bound like this. You introduce that to acid, the acid, the H+ ions, come in and replace. They're stronger than the metal themselves, so even a weak acid will knock the metal off. Imagine you ingesting some of these weak binders, and it gets into your stomach, which is acidic. It may be able to do that, but the reality is, when it's in an acidic environment in your stomach, the strength isn't there. We lost our life to this stuff, so we want to bring you this true method today.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, I think it's one of my pet peeves when it comes to heavy metals, and it's that most doctors do it wrong. Many people go, and I talk about this in the articles, is they go to their doctor and they get IV chelation. That's a true chelator. However, the problem is that they don't use it often enough, meaning keep the level up in the blood to minimize the circulation.

Warren: We hear the horror stories from people into autoimmune, they lose their life, psychosis. You be very careful when you just jump out there in this realm of heavy metal detoxification. It is a major misnomer, a major insult, with some of these natural health practitioners that are out there. I'm not coming against—it's just lack of knowledge. That's why we're doing this. I'm not coming against them. I just want to educate with Dr. Pompa on these true topics. That's Cellular Healing TV. Let's get into it.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. This is it. I'm going to move over here.

Warren: I'm going to move over here.

Dr. Pompa: The idea of heavy metal chelation, like you said, it is a pet peeve of mine. Number one, I had to get my life back through that process, and I had to do it correctly. Really, just like most of you, I tried probably the majority of the products out there. Chlorella, cilantro—cilantro I almost died, because it crosses into the brain and jut stirs it up. One of the keys to having metal detox is using these things often enough that they don't drop in your blood to allow things to recirculate. Again, that's the problem with IV. I talk about that in the articles. This is at the core of what we do. You've seen me draw these circles many times. This is the cell, right? This is ultimately where the problem's occurring, because in this cell, of course, you have the DNA in the nucleus. Out here, you have this vital membrane that I talked about, right? Once this membrane becomes inflame—typically toxins, diet, glucose, insulin, all these things can inflame the membrane—bad fats. Once it does, now you can't get the good stuff in, you can't get the bad stuff out. You end up with this toxic environment that really now starts to turn on bad genes. Then you start expressing bad things, meaning you're making bad proteins, you're making bad hormones, you're making bad information. Everything that's coming out of this cell now is duplicating bad. We turn on these genes of susceptibility. One of the things I was saying—hey look, if you're a doctor and you don't understand epigenetics and how to change the way the gene is expressing itself, this is new science. You have to understand this, whether it's a thyroid, diabetes, even weight loss. We have to change what that DNA's expressing. Most of us, we don't feel well. You're expressing, from your DNA, bad things. That's the bottom line. We have to change that. Toxins are a big deal, because they start changing that DNA. We have to detox the cell. That's the bottom line. Now look, there's multiple ways we do this. The 5R's is really how we do this. If you've never read those articles, read them. R1 is remove the source, which we're going to talk about in a minute. Heavy metals was the topic of Terry's show, one of the topics. Then we talk about R2, and it's regenerating the cell membrane. We've got to get this membrane working and move things in and out smoothly and also, to change that DNA. R3 is the energy needed to even detox. R4 is reducing the inflammation so the cell works, and R5 is re-establishing methylation, which is a major, major part of how the cell detox. By the way, most people do not have enough of this methylation because of stress, which is chemical, physical, emotional. That's the 5R's. That's true cellular detox. Now, this is what one of the things that we do. GCEL is a product that has been created over the years. This particular one is an evolution of the third generation product that started years ago. This product raises something called intercellular—and I'm just going to abbreviate it here, GSH, which is glutathione. Look, I'm not going to give you a chemistry degree. I want everyone to understand this. The point is this. This is the body's strongest antioxidant. It's in every cell in the body. Matter of fact, if those levels of glutathione in the cell drop too low, the cell dies instantly. Every cell needs it. It's the way the cell naturally detoxifies, as well. Very, very important—we know that as people get sick, as they age, these levels drop. Now they have trouble with oxidative stress, aging, bad stuff happens to your DNA, and also, your gut cells become more and more toxic. This product raises glutathione. Very simply, when we do these 5R's here, okay? When we do these products, and Terry talked about a lot of them, GCEL being the major one, it kicks out the toxins. I'll just use X's for that. It kicks out the toxins from the cell. Then you ask, “Where do they go?” That's the big question. Most of the toxins end up—and now, you have to excuse my amazing art—

Warren: Let's push this this way a little.

Dr. Pompa: Move it a little bit? Okay. Alright, we good? Alright. Most of them make their way to the liver, okay?

Warren: That's a fine liver.

Dr. Pompa: That is a good liver, actually! It's a little light into the drawing, because I was afraid, but yeah, that is a good liver. Okay, so that's your liver. I'll just put liver in there, just so you remember. Most of the toxins make their way to the liver. What happens there? Look, there's a phase one and phase two detoxification here. Again, I'm not going to give you a whole education here, but the liver has to transform these toxins into longer chains, different things, to remove them from the body. The liver then, most of those toxins end up —and once again, we're going to have some fun with my amazing artistic ability. I'm doing pretty well today, Warren.

Warren: Yeah, you're on your game.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, this is quite something.

Warren: That's an S, right?

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, that's an S. Right, no, that's your intestines. Okay, no, that is your intestines. Most of the toxins, then, are bound up to bile. You remember what bile is, folks? Okay, I just drew a little thing on the liver. That's your gallbladder. He's helping me out.

Warren: Now it looks like a snake.

Dr. Pompa: Here's the bile. I'll write that here, okay? Bile is a fat. Really, it's used to digest fat, okay? When you eat a fatty meal, your body's going to dump that bile into your intestines to do what? To break down fat. However, most of the toxins are bound up in and around this bile complex. Matter of fact, we know that toxic people, people that don't feel well, they have something called hepatic, meaning liver; biliary, bile; sludge, meaning bad stuff, toxins. In this hepatic biliary sludge—that's why people a lot of people, by the way, need their gallbladder removed, they can't digest well. This bile complex becomes very toxic. Here's the bile making its way—

Warren: Plus the toxins, right?

Dr. Pompa: Plus the toxins. See, that's the problem. The bile carries the toxins in the gut. Now you say, “That might not be bad, because ultimately, we want to eliminate those toxins.” That's the problem. See, what happens in the lower small intestine—let's just say this is the cutoff here. The lower small intestine, what happens is your body reabsorbs bile back to the liver. You know why it does that? It doesn't want to have to recreate it. If the toxins are bound up to bile, what does it bring? It brings the toxins with the bile complex. It's called AKA autointoxication. We're doing all this wonderful work at the cell. We bring it to the liver. Then it ends up in the gut, and we reabsorb it. Then what happens is most of it just starts recirulating back into the body? That's a bad idea. We ended up, years ago, coming up with a concept and a process where we bind it. We put a catcher's mitt in the gut. That one is called BIND, okay? BIND, obviously… bind. We put that catcher's mitt in the gut. Therefore, when the bowel complex with the toxins ends up here, we have this catcher's mitt waiting, and now we can bring it out of the body. You can't absorb this. It's a very, very tight bond. In this BIND product, once again, evolutionary—it's evolved over the years. It has ability to bind not just heavy metals, but also organic toxins such as mold, biotoxins, things like that.

Warren: Yeah, the ingredients have been put together over the years. We've added different things. Dr. Shayne put his spin on it. Some of the fibers, some of the types of carbon, are very specific. Not even from America, from other countries. I don't really want to tell what other countries, it's proprietary information, but just absolutely incredible.

Dr. Pompa: Here's what Terry talked about. Terry said man, when he started doing these coffee enemas—which I think most of this audience has heard of, right? Coffee enemas, and they work for detox. It's only a part of detox. When people use a coffee enema just for detox, what about the cell? Coffee enemas really work right here. I'm going to write coffee right here, okay? What it does is the caffeine, when you do a coffee enema, pushes out the bowel complex. Why is that significant? Oftentimes, we're doing all this wonderful work with these cellular products that we've created over the years, and we're moving toxins from the cell. Very important. What happens, then, if your body starts—the delivery gets so congested that the bowel doesn't want to leave? Then our catcher's mitt doesn't have a chance to bring it out of the body. Then coffee enemas come in, and they purge the bowel complex. A lot of people do coffee enemas without the catcher's mitt. Does that sound like a bad idea? It is.

Warren: It's a really bad idea.

Dr. Pompa: Why? Then they start to reabsorb—

Warren: Right here, it's going to come back. You dump it out of your liver, it goes down through here, gets sucked back up, and you wonder why you're waking up in the middle of the night sick. Headaches, pains.

Dr. Pompa: That's bad. You can see there's stop checks right? People make mistakes down here because they don't have a binding agent, so they're reabsorbing. People can get messed up here because they're not pushing the bowel out, and it's becoming more and more toxic. That's really bad, okay? They become very chemically sensitive, very sensitive to foods. We want to be able to free up the bile. Here's where people make the biggest mistake. They're really not doing true cellular detox. They're not getting the cell here. They're just working down here. Mistake, mistake, mistake. This system is how we get very, very, very, very sick people well. This system is true detox, true cellular detox. Again, we bring it from the cell, make sure it comes out of the liver, and then, of course, we're making sure it comes out of the body and not reabsorbed. Now, there's been some advances here.

Warren: One thing here. I just want you to see how this evolves. Some of you watch and be like, “Can't I just do a colon cleanse?” or “Can't I just do a footbath?”

Dr. Pompa: You're down here.

Warren: Yeah, this seems so complicated. What I want you to know is we're not doing anything that the body doesn't already naturally do. We're just supporting it. We're supporting the glutathione, which is your body's number one way to remove cellular toxins. It's weak here because of stress and life and all these things, but I just want to make it simple. This is simple. All you're doing is supporting your cell. It's removing the toxins. We're supporting the liver. We do have—glutathione supports the liver like this product.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, GCEL works here, too.

Warren: It's supporting the liver. The reason I get this is my—I won't even say it, but I even have family members that are trying to figure this all out. It's really neat. They say, “I need a liver cleanse. I have fatty liver.” Look this helps take care of that.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, there's a product even, a suppository, because people say, “I'm not doing some coffee enema.” We actually have a product that is really a coffee enema in a suppository. Takes two seconds to do, but it really pushes it out. Then we have other products like Lb, Liver/gall bladder, a liver product. These products really help.

Warren: Support, support, and then a little bit of an intervention here with the body's system, because it has all these toxins that are coming down and reabsorbing. This was me. This is why—it's just really passionate about this. It saved my life. I literally couldn't sleep because in the middle of the night, my liver would dump whatever was going on, and I would wake up sick every night. If I took carbon before I went to bed, Dr. Pompa, and that's another trick that came out on the show right now, is take carbon—that's not carbon, but the BIND product.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, the BIND product has a specific type of carbon in it.

Warren: Back in the day, I would just take straight carbon, I was actually mixing it up and drinking it, and I could sleep through the night. You're doing a little bit of an intervention here to break up this hepatic biliary recirculation, meaning the autointoxication, retoxifying your body. You can think about that in the middle of the night if you ate poorly or drank too much alcohol and you just wake up sick. You're getting this autointoxication even happening in there on an acute level versus a chronic level, but this is chronically, meaning on a daily basis, happening in people's lives… an intervention.

Dr. Pompa: Okay, now this is important. We have some things that we do to support if things get stopped up here, right? You can see that. Other products. We have some things we have to do in the gut, which, there's other things we oftentimes have to do there, and obviously, the 5R's and some things at the cell. Think about these three things. What I haven't said is where does heavy metals come in? Glutathione, although it dumps the cell, it's not a great chelator for heavy metals, so it has trouble bringing the heavy metals to the liver. This is where true chelators come in, that are specific for, in this case, this example, heavy metals. We have these heavy metals out here. I'm just going to draw Hg as mercury. This is out here, outside the cell. Of course, inside the cell, on the cell, and we want to get these—

Warren: In this bile complex?

Dr. Pompa: In this bile complex, in the gut.

Warren: In your brain.

Dr. Pompa: In the bones, in the brain, right. We want to go after this. The first thing—and again, this is very, very important simple science. There's something called concentration gradient. Things, if you remember from your biology—I just lost most of you. Things move from higher concentration to lower concentration. We want to clear—outside the cell, we want to clear the body of these heavy metals. Why? So we set up concentration gradients to move them from deeper tissue like the brain, the bone, etcetera, wherever it's stored. We use specific chelators to do that. Now, Terry talked about this new one that's this liquid that we're using. We call it the CytoDetox drops. That's pretty easy to remember, right? CytoDetox drops. It does bind up other metals, but it's very specific for heavy metals. Then we talked about, in some of the articles, chelating agents like DMSA. They're chelating agents that have a true bind. They are true chelators that grab on. Those agents, you have to use within their half-life. It's very, very important. Warren's trying to fix the lighting. That's worse actually, Warren. You put a major shadow—oh, now it's just you're there. You're creating a shadow. It might be better. Anyways, a true chelator is something that grabs on, but you have to use it often enough. Otherwise, you'll stir the bees' nest, okay? The CytoDetox drops—it's still important to use all chelators within their half-life. It just has a longer ability, so we don't have to take it as often. Anyways, we use these true agents that bind metals along with this system. That's what I want you to see. Then that helps bring these heavy metals—remember, heavy means the body has trouble getting rid of them, and therefore, we're utilizing these specific chelators in this process and keeping them moving out. The sun—I knew that sun would be a big issue. Anyways, so this is what we do. Again, we can do this differently for mold; we can do it differently for biotoxins. In this case, it's heavy metals. Using true chelators that actually bind, not a lot of the herbals that just stir the bees' nest, not IVs that go away and all of a sudden, all the metal's recirculating. When you use these true chelators within a system, it helps move things out of the body. That's how we got our lives back. It's that simple. It really is. The cell to the liver to the gut, out of the body. Of course, some of it makes its way to the kidneys. We support those, all of the downstream detox pathways. We've been asked in the past, “Where do infrared saunas fit in this?” I put it into the category of coffee enemas, meaning that that helps process. The skin is a detoxification process. You'll never remove heavy metals from your brain, deep in your body, just by using infrared sauna, but is it a great thing to keep this pathways open? We have this liver-gut pathway, but what about the liver-kidney pathway? Skin pathway? We want to keep those pathways open, too. This is where we get most of the problems that really occur in most people who try to detoxify and really aren't successful. They get headaches. They get worse. This works. Why does this work? The magic is at the cell. Read the 5R articles. Read those heavy metal articles. Like I said, we're really excited about this new detoxifier. I'll sit down here. The reason we are is because we have been brought every heavy metal detox agent on the planet and we've tested them. They never pan out, do they?

Warren: They don't.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, they don't. We've tested all the different things, all the heavy metal products. I could go through lists that I've used and the lists that we've tested, and it never panned out. This one did, so we've been very, very excited about it. We've obviously been using it for the last nine months, and we're now just launching it out, really, to the public and for doctors to start using. We're thrilled, and a brilliant man—really, you came up with a hydrolyzation process to make that molecule small enough that it in fact does cross into the brain. One thing I wanted to point out here is through this process, we clear the body, and then we move into something called the brain phase. That's really how we got our life back, is the brain phase. It's the deeper heavy metals that really makes people sick. It's not what's in the body. It's really what's in the brain, especially when it comes to mercury. That's when we started getting our night's sleep back. That's when we started our thyroid and our adrenals—we could adapt to stress again once we started getting our pituitary, which is what runs the thyroid, which runs the adrenals. We might have some questions there, because I think that's a really important thing. We did get a lot of questions about that. Warren: I just want to say that authentically, this took me a long time, but I know that it gave me my life back. I was so stinking sick, and so many of our clients are just at the end of their rope. It took time. The nice thing is, where it took me three years doing this at a lesser level, over the years, thousands of doctors, training doctors—our doctors bring us new great ideas all the time. We get to educate, obviously, through our public platform and our physician and health coach platform. It's so much quicker than it used to be, but it still is a process, and it still takes commitment, dedication, an attitude like Terry has, to get it done. Part of the trick of getting well and utilizing something that we know that works, you're just supporting the body doing what it normally does but helping it get there more quickly and gently, just like anything else. When someone falls down, what does the Bible say? Blessed is the man who can pick him up again. That's what we're doing to the body. The body's down, it's down and out, and we're reaching into that body and we're supporting it and lifting it up again to give it a chance to do what it's supposed to do. That's how these conditions heal themselves. It is absolutely life transforming. The beautiful thing is, the research proves it. It's just really exciting. I just want to let you guys know that man, it gave me my life back.

Dr. Pompa: This is what we did. It's a big part of it.

Warren: I'll never stop saying that.

Dr. Pompa: The brain phase, I think we did have some questions about that, how we used fat-soluble chelators. We don't do it right away, because we want to clear out what's around the cell, what's in the body, set up that concentration gradient. Once you clear the body, now you can go after it in the brain with great ease, because the concentration gradient's there. It's simple. Again, it's things move from higher concentration to lower. Again, it's something that most practitioners violate. They don't understand how to do this. We do it, really, two ways. Number one, three to four months of clearing the body, purposely not going deep into the cell yet and into the brain. Number two, we do four-ten cycles, typically. Four days on, ten days off, four days on, ten days off. We clear for four days, we give it ten days for concentration gradient to settle back out, and then we clear again. That's the heavy metal process, but that's true to all detoxification really, is it's that pulsing that really matters. Again folks, if you're out there and you think you're going to do this one cleanse—yeah, I'm going to do a cleanse for ten days, a ten-day cleanse. Look, it's not so simple. These toxins are deep. Once you do that ten-day cleanse, you might clear out some things down here, but it sets up concentration gradient. Then things start to move from the cell and out, and all of a sudden, you're back to where you were, if not worse, because you're reabsorbing most of those toxins. These 10, 20-day cleanses that people do doesn't work. This is the real deal. This takes time. I'm not going to paint a picture of three detoxification programs and you're better. Not so simple. It took you 20 to 30 years to bioaccumulate the toxins deep into these cells, deep into these tissues. and it's not going to come out in months. This is a process that we teach people to do again and again, and eventually, you do get your life back. This is based on science. This is based on concentration gradient, cycling, how the cell works, how this process naturally works, and just improving it. Again, look, for those people out there that have deep-rooted issues, work with one of our practitioners. You can go to my website, obviously, DrPompa.com and call in. The girls can help you. This is something that needs help. Some of you can do this process by yourselves. Again, the people that have things like chronic fatigue, fibromyalgia, sleep problems—work with a practitioner. You can see those many things here that need supported further. Obviously, there's things that can happen here, and obviously, there's more support that can happen here, but this system is the real deal. This works. It took us years and years to get here. You heard Terry's testimony to this right here. Terry was able to express a lot of this. Hey, I did this here. I did that here. This works, guys. This is a great show. It's probably why it was delayed today. This is really how people get their lives back. I do have a pet peeve. People go to an alternative doctor, and it's more about taking vitamins and different herbs. If you don't remove the interference—this is R1, Remove the source.

Warren: Yeah, here's a 30 day cleanse. You walk into your chiropractor, your acupuncturist, which are amazing, and they're great people, and they're trying to help you, and they're making a great impact in your life. They give you the 30-day detox in a canister and say, “Oh, you need to detox. Here, just do this.” Really, all they're doing—it's helping—

Dr. Pompa: Most of it's gut stuff and liver stuff. Never up here.

Warren: It's helping at a very small level, but if you're dealing with a chronic condition, you need to work with a coach. When I was an All-American javelin thrower I found the best coach. That's what made me an All-American. Clients, they come to Dr. Pompa. They've been to other coaches, but they find the best. They find some of our health coaches. It just makes a massive difference in their lives. Find yourself a good coach. Don't run around and start moving metals around. The fact is, your body's trying to protect itself. That's why it's putting this inside of fat cells and it's getting places it shouldn't be. It's putting lead in it's bone. It's trying to store these things that you're putting them into your body, trying to keep it from making you sick. The fact is, it builds up long enough, your body can't handle it, and then you start expressing some of the symptoms, such as—I don't want to get into that, but the sleeplessness, the fibromyalgia, the inflammatory conditions.

Dr. Pompa: You have to remember the source, and that's what most people just aren't willing to do long enough. That's the key. After Terry's thing, we got such a great response we wrote an article. Really, more of this topic, you'll see that. Look out for that.

Warren: Go to our website. I just want to go over the articles that we discussed today. If you're watching this for the first time, go to DrPompa, because not everyone on here knows our website. DrPompa.com, right? Then right at the top right of that website, right about here, I believe, is where you can put your email in. That will hook you up with all the new articles and things we're releasing on a weekly basis, so we can educate you on these topics. The Terry story and his topic is coming out. The new glyphosate article's coming out, I believe, this week or the following week. Then after that will be Terry and his story, his cancer story. Then up here, there's also a search tool somewhere around here. My team will laugh at me, because I'm maybe not putting the right area, but you can go here. When Dr. Pompa talks about, “Read my 5R articles,” just put 5R's in here. “Read my heavy metals article,” type in, “heavy metals.” Some of these articles will show up in a list so that you can read them. Then, even in the articles, they reference the other articles. We make specific instructions. Read the 5R's articles if you're watching, this is your first time. Spend a day on each article. Watch the video. That's your system. Create that education habit in your life. To get your life back, you've got to educate yourself. It's not taking a pill, powder, or lotion, but there's an education process. Educate yourself on natural health websites that you believe in that are true, that are real, that you know that they're authentic and bring a message like we have. We're not the only ones out there, but we have truth. I want you to go in and read these, one a day for the next week, until we come back next week. Just get up in the morning and read one a day. Watch the video. It'll take you 15 minutes. Then by the time you come on next week, you'll really understand, even more, what we're talking about.

Dr. Pompa: I think I'm going to continue to go over this process. When I look to how these very, very sick people are getting well, it really is about what we showed you today. Of course, we do all these supportive things around it, but it is about removing the interference. This is what I'm frustrated with, even most alternative doctors are just not doing. We're going to keep bringing that message, I think, more this year than ever. It really gets you to understand it, even better, how we're using specific detoxification agents within that system. It just keeps getting better and better. I hope you enjoyed the show. I hope that helps you do the homework, because I think, again, the knowledge is the power. If we can educate you on the real deal, you're not going to fall for every little detoxification thing that comes your way. This is the real deal. Alright, we appreciate it. Sorry about the mix-up there, in the beginning. 180° solution, no doubt, this is 180° opposite of what most detox is that's out there in the alternative world, obviously, the allopathic world. Hope you got a lot out of it. We'll see you next week.

Warren: Alright. be the change, guys. Go and educate the world with this real health information. We appreciate you. Take care. Have a good week.

47: From a Death Sentence of Cancer, to Life

Transcript of Episode 47: From a Death Sentence of Cancer, to Life. Hear what This Man Did…

With Dr. Daniel Pompa and David Asarnow
Special Guest: Terry Heninger


David:
Welcome everyone, to Episode 47 of Cellular Healing TV. This is David Asarnow and I am here with Dr. Pompa and today we have a very special guest. Now, I’ve had the opportunity to get to meet Terry this morning with Dr. Pompa and have some conversations and today is going to be very special. You’re going to hear a story of hope, a story of belief, a story of personal responsibility and action. It’s very moving. What you’re going to find is there are natural solutions to the challenges out there. Dr. Pompa, would you like to introduce Terry Henniger, your client?

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I’m very, very happy and pleased to introduce Terry and what an amazing guy, as you will see. I’ll just say it right here. The first diagnosis was Stage IV pancreatic cancer. They do a Whipple surgery on this man and they get in there and they downgrade him, and I’ll let him tell the story, to a Stage I and a half or something after that. They give him, a certain amount of time to live, as with all pancreatic cancer.

Of course, they wanted to load Terry up with a bunch of chemo, and Terry went a different route, as you’ll see. Wait until you hear this man’s story. I don’t know if you got the email, folks watching and listening, about this show. There was a new study out this week, David, that talked about 65% of all cancer is really just down to bad luck. That type of headline aggravates me because if Terry believed that, Terry would not be sitting here today. If Terry believed that, Terry would not have taken responsibility and looked for upstream causes of cancer. If it’s bad luck, why change anything, if it’s simply bad luck, right?

David:
Yeah.

Dr. Pompa:
Those types of things really give people a license to continue on doing the very things that caused their cancer. David, I’m a believer, and I have watched very, very sick people get well from the incurable. I’ll tell you, it’s always—you find the cause and remove it. God put something amazing in our bodies. Our bodies have the innate ability to heal themselves. I don’t heal, there’s no doctor in my mind that heals. There’s no cure outside of what the body can do. The body has the ability to fix things, but we have to remove the interference, and that’s what this show’s about, in my mind.

So, with that said, Terry, thank you for joining us.

Terry:
It’s actually my pleasure being here, thank you.

Dr. Pompa:
You don’t know this man, but that guy over there is 64 years old and I’m not going to embarrass him to make him hold up his shirt now, but he is a buff, what are you, 180?

Terry: 
About 180 pounds, yes.

Dr. Pompa:
One hundred eighty and well, maybe you could even just jump in right there. Terry, you were absolutely—you always worked out. You loved working out and of course, what did you go down to? What was your lowest weight through this process?

Terry:
Well, after the surgery—I was 190 going in. Matter of fact, I went to the hospital from the gym, because I had jaundice. After the whipple surgery and everything, I got down to about 158.

Dr. Pompa:
How tall are you, Terry?

Terry:
Six foot tall.

Dr. Pompa:
Okay, so you would be, you looked like Auschwitz. I mean, you would definitely be…

Terry:
Honestly, going back, I remember looking in the mirror and I started crying. My dad died the same day I went in for whipple surgery, of dementia, and what he looked like—and I had a brother in ’96 die of AIDS. I remember what he looked like, and I looked like that. Not disrespective in any way, but I was scared, and I just looked in the mirror and I said, “I’m not goin’ out this way.” That was mainly my—from the get on in, I wasn’t going to go out that way.

Dr. Pompa:
That was your turning point? Right then and there?

Terry:
Excuse me?

Dr. Pompa:
Was that your – that was your turning point?

Terry:
That was my turning point, honestly. Before I was in a lot of pain, I just wanted to go home from the hospital, because I’m not a hospital fan. When I looked in the mirror and actually saw what I looked like, and this is just within a 10-day period. Going from 190 to in the 150’s and looking in the mirror and what I was and what I became, it was a total turning point of my whole life. I’ll never forget that picture.

Dr. Pompa:
I would love to have this – I would love to have a before and after of you, really. I have to ask this question, because most people get that diagnosis, how long did they give you to live?

Terry:
They gave me, originally, six months to live for a period of time, and that’s when, to be honest with you, I just prayed to God that night for another chance at life. It was just totally amazing. They came in and finally did the CAT scan and checked everything and then decided on whipple surgery and gave me 35% chance of survival in the whipple surgery, but they felt more comfortable because I was in such good shape that I would survive the whipple surgery. In my mind, I actually, through my belief then, it was like somebody telling me, “You can make it.” I said, “Let’s do it.” It was an 8-hour surgery, and then I started to heal from there.

Dr. Pompa:
Here’s the question I have. Most people at this point, they’re recommending piles of chemo, right? I know what they do for this type of pancreatic cancer. It is a death sentence. Most people have so much fear, Terry, that they’ll do—even if they don’t believe in chemo—they end up doing chemo. You didn’t. Why?

Terry:
That’s a very, very good question. The protocol, like, my surgeon who doesn’t, you know, they just go, “He’s a surgeon,” so he basically hands it over to the oncologist. The protocol is six months chemo and three months radiation after my surgery. They thought they got all the cancer out, but to make sure, they wanted to do the six months chemo. I came home and I remember my mom died of cancer, years back – my stepmom did. I remember her suffering and then just other people. I told my wife, she looked at me, and I said, “I’m not going to do chemo. There’s no way.”

Like a jet, she was upstairs just doing research and natural causes, natural solutions. It actually started with Suzanne Somers’ book Knockout. I started reading that, and through my neighbor in Nashville, which we moved in January, a dentist, was working with Dr. Pompa. I got his name and that’s why I called – my wife called for a consultation with you and you met us and we talked to you and that’s we started our journey. Soon as I talked to you and the more I read, the more chance I gave myself. I knew that no matter what, I wasn’t going to do chemo. An oncologist actually treated me like garbage when I went in because I wasn’t going to – he kept saying, “Sugar was a myth,” because they’re like car salesman. They kept throwing stuff at me. As a matter of fact, I walked into the office, and it was a big theater of people that are sick, sitting down getting chemo. They served you candy. Actually in the office.

Dr. Pompa:
Wow.

David:
Oh, my gosh.

Terry:
Like I said, the more you read, the more discussion, you get anti-chemo and it makes you wonder why anybody would do chemo and then by reading, actually by reading, chemo does zero good for all the different natural doctors for pancreatic cancer. By doing chemo, I have a less chance of survival if I went natural after doing chemo. I just feel blessed at all the decisions I made.

Dr. Pompa:
There’s no doubt about it. When I first spoke to you, I’m very choosy about what clients I take on.

Terry:
Yeah, I heard that.

Dr. Pompa:
I knew that your positive outlook in someone who’s, “I’m not going to end up like that,” is key for these really chronic diseases. That was you, Terry. Something, you had made a choice. David, we always say, it’s a choice, right? Living’s a choice. It’s like everything in our life is a choice. I believe that you’re here today – your wife said I saved your life. No, I believe you saved your life. I know some other things happened to, because you came to the Lord through this process, too.

Terry:
Absolutely.

Dr. Pompa:
Not necessarily the believing person your wife was going into this, am I correct on that?

Terry:
Absolutely. I’m blessed every day. I pray every day and every night, and really all day and different things. I’m completely a different person in many, many ways. I’m still a little crazy, because that’s my personality, but honestly, from the first time I talked to you, I felt the hope and every time I talk to you, I feed off your energy. I truly believe that now the way I feel, that I’ve got a lot, a lot, a lot of years ahead. Then I’ve been reading about Stage IV through natural cures through the different doctors, Stage IV pancreatic cancer, people been living 10, 15, up to 25 years. They were thrown away by the doctors, just go home and get your affairs together.

They’re now, because they went natural, living for many, many years, and it just makes me wonder. Now, I even say, you can go to the store and pick up products and look at the label, and there are probably three or four products in the back that’s in the foods that will cause cancer over a period of time. Pretty much, if you’re not organic, you’re pretty much eating poison.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no doubt about it. Eventually, it’s just going to happen. In that article that I said 65% just down to dumb luck, they talked about gene mutations occurring. Did they ever ask themselves what’s causing the mutations? That’s the key – people are doing things that cause mutations. I want to point this out. Very, very important point. Terry, before you got this diagnosis, you would’ve said, “I’m a healthy guy.” Matter of fact, that would’ve kept you from doing healthier things. Although you can tell your story from the back, but you did make some changes. Really, the only symptom you ever had, ever before this, is some acid reflux, am I right on that?

Terry:
Absolutely. I actually got thorough physicals. I just didn’t go to the—I went in and got complete thorough physicals. They did blood work and everything, and it was just total amazement that it could be in me ten years, and they can’t check the different things and find out something’s wrong. Basically, going in for a physical, you’re supposed to reassure that you’re okay, but it doesn’t. Going back to your point about bad luck – that’s the first thing the oncologist said. “You just had bad luck.”

Dr. Pompa: 
Bingo.

David:
Oh, man.

Terry:
The first thing that came out of his mouth. “It was just bad luck.” Yeah, we really make our own luck. It’s just amazing the sales job that they do. One leech to the other, from your doctor, and then, this is protocol, you must do this to the other to the other, and you’ve got people—which I’m now reading all the time—their lives are being ruined by doctors who are supposed to be people protecting us and saving us.

Dr. Pompa:
That’s right. It’s so true. The doctors really do believe, it’s just, “Hey, you’re unlucky. You got diabetes, you’re unlucky.” “You’ve got cancer, you’re unlucky.” It’s the old dogma of, hey it’s your genetics, right? We know that there’re things that mutate the genes, environmentally. We know that there’re things that turn on genes of susceptibility and that’s the new science. Really, that’s the reality of it. Okay, I think at this point, David, everyone’s wondering, what did you do?

David:
What did you do and let’s talk about some of—getting to the source and the cause.

Dr. Pompa:
Actually, let’s start there. You’re right. At the top of the show, how many years were you a Diet Coke drinker, which by the way, David we did a show on. How many years did you drink Diet Coke?

Terry:
Well, diet sodas were probably invented in the 80’s I believe. I got to the point where I was drinking 12 a day.

David:
Oh, my gosh.

Terry:
I actually cut down. I was still even, to the end, I was drinking at least four a day. I would drink two diet sodas in the morning, go to work and between—I was a school teacher and a football coach—I’d drink diet sodas in between. Then I’d say, “Oh, I got to drink my water.” I went for years when I drank way more diet soda than I did water.

Dr. Pompa:
I have said this in the past. There’s a cause, right?

Terry:
Absolutely.

Dr. Pompa:
A lot of the stuff that’s come back since I’ve been working with you is your brain function, as far as clarity. We know that that also dumbs down the brain. Another cause and effect, I have said, and others, it’s estimated that 70% of all disease starts in the mouth. Many cancers, heart disease and we could go through, chronic fatigue syndrome, fibromyalgia. What do we mean by that? One of the things, when I first took your history, was that you had 10 amalgams through most of your life. You had root canals, which we know cause sickness. As a matter of fact, your periodontal disease was so bad that, basically, I don’t know if you have any of your original teeth in your mouth. Am I correct on that?

Terry:
Absolutely correct.

Dr. Pompa:
Try to give us a history there. If 70%, I believe it’s higher, disease starts in the mouth, here’s a guy that literally his teeth are falling out of his mouth, and as a matter of fact, Terry, you know what I had written down on our Day 1? Months and months ago, you had said, “When my teeth came out I didn’t get sick as much. I had less acid reflux. All pain and cold sores went away.” As the silver fillings and the teeth started coming out of your mouth, you actually saw improvements in your health. Talk to me about that.

Terry:
Absolutely. I actually—my mouth bled, where I would sometimes spit out and my mouth bled—this is for years. It progressively got worse and I’d go in and finally I’d go to the dentist and they had all the fillings and this and that and the refill it. It would always be something. Finally, I just couldn’t do it anymore, so I got everything removed. From that time, everything changed as far as pain. I didn’t have any pain.

Dr. Pompa:
As the teeth were coming out, you’re saying.

Terry:
Once they got out. Once they got out, actually my health got a lot better. I felt better, I had less colds. I had less symptoms. I had hardly any cold sores after that. I always—I tell my wife, if I knew what I know now, I would’ve had all my teeth taken out 20 years ago.

Dr. Pompa:
People would say, my gosh, how is that possible? Well, you had infection in there, root canal can cause cancer, all the silver amalgam fillings leaching mercury. I just had someone tell me yesterday, when I first got my fillings out, my health got so much better. Here’s the mistake most people make, and David, you’ve heard this before. We always say we want to the proper heavy metal detox circulation. Four days after the fillings come out is the perfect time. People have this honeymoon period where they feel better, but ultimately then, the mercury was never removed from your brain and your deep tissues, so it’s still there causing mutations in the genes, causing cellular inflammation, and ultimately driving the problems we see years later. When I looked at your history, and by the way, you had some mold in a past home, too, right?

Terry:
Correct.

Dr. Pompa:
I’m just pointing out to people cause, cause, cause and cause. I remember you being—just things I wrote down—ten years of spraying pesticides or herbicides in your yard, in your house, right?

Terry:
Absolutely.

Dr. Pompa:
Cause. I’m doing your history, I’m saying, “My, gosh. Of course, there’s a cause. There’s a cause. There’s a cause.” I’m seeing a guy who’s heading for a cliff no matter what. Of course, you knew that. Then we did a heavy metal test and we saw heavy metals that were off the chart—lead, mercury, etc.  The first thing that we did, we started improving your cellular function. Talk about this progression.

Terry:
We started with the detox – we started detoxing right away, which was amazing. I actually, from the beginning, right from the beginning, we did this, whey water and the Amasai, and we did, the DSMA and…

Dr. Pompa:
We prepared you for that first. If you recall, we did a fast, which we talk about, with the whey water we improved your (inaudible) then we jumped in to the heavy metal detox.

Terry:
Correct. We went through the cleanse first. With the whey water and Amasai, I think what was it? 18 day cleanse? We cleaned up a lot then, and I already started to feel better, right from the beginning, I started to feel better. I actually moved up a little in weight, but once I did the cleanse, the Amasai and whey water cleanse, I actually lost five pounds, but then I felt better. Then we started in a detox—I really started to feel better.

Dr. Pompa:
It worked real fast. Just for people to understand it, most people call it a cleanse, but I look at it as prep work. For about 18 days without eating food.

Terry:
Correct.

Dr. Pompa:
We were doing this whey water which is not whey protein, it’s a liquid water. We basically fasted you for that long, just on these products that are loaded with good bacteria. David, you see me train doctors on that protocol, correct, David?

David: 
Absolutely. It’s sort of like, no matter what’s going on, it sort of – it gives your body time to catch up and heal. Wouldn’t that be what it does, Dr. Pompa?

Dr. Pompa:
No doubt. Fasting gives the body—it stops the energy having to go to break down a lot of food and nutrients and it really takes the energy into healing. With any of these types of very, very severe conditions, a fast like this, which I call an intermittent fast, you can read more about it on my website, is where we start, especially with these tough cases. Then we moved into heavy metal detox, and we cleared your body out and then we went into the brain phase. Tell us a little bit about that.

Terry:
Well, the brain phase, which my wife thought was great, because she thought my brain was a little messed up. Actually, we did it, you said we’re going to be on this for two years. I went, “Well, that’s interesting.” It’s great, and again, at the end of it, that’s when we started basically, I think the last time, the call came in—that’s the end. With the process of doing it, I think I’m 4 out of 10, and did the different products in between, the ALA, and all that. Again, it’s sort of another perk-up, where I just actually feel better. I know—I’m on constantly with the terra firma. I’m detoxing all the time, and I still do periodically fast with the SueroGold and Amasai. It seems like—as you get up in the morning, it’s like, how could I — and that’s why I thank God every morning – how can I feel so good? I used to be – I get up – I was getting up at 5:30 and I always back to bed and slept three more hours, and I always wanted to sleep. Now, I actually have to work to sleep, because I still have so much – and even going after lifting weights for two hours, I still have energy. My energy is totally amazing. Actually, two years, I can stay on this brain phase probably the rest of my life and I’d feel good. I see it, from research and everything that’s in it, everything is doing nothing but making my body—and again, I’m always detoxing and cleansing, because anytime, like they say, you’re absorbing toxins. I’m eliminating toxins all the time. That’s the whole thing. In the body is, not for my pancreas, for the cancer not the cell—cellular defense, my cells, I feel they’re cleaning out all the time. From where we started, just a short period of time ‘til now, and through my blood tests. My blood test scores have just come off the charts amazing. The doctor even said to me when I went for my blood test that I have less in me that people that never had cancer. My blood tests are actually lower now than people without cancer.

Dr. Pompa:
You know, David, one of the things that a couple products, because people wanted to know more about some of the products that we use, and I’ll share that, that’s of interest of people. When he speaks of this brain phase, what we’re really speaking of is really, you can clear the body of heavy metals, but we do that for the first three, four months. We set up a concentration gradient. Really, what we’re interested in is pulling the metals from the deeper areas, as a matter of fact, aka, the brain. That’s the brain phase. Really, then, we go deeper. We utilize some of these tools, like epiploic acid, but we take it every four hours and there’s a reason for that, because of the half-life. It’s a fat soluble, so it goes into the brain. Terry, we started you also on these cellular detox drops that almost look like water.

Terry:
Correct.

Dr. Pompa:
You’re one of the original people. You’re one of the forerunners for that new product, by the way, that we’re able to cross into the brain much faster. When we added that in, again, we’re pouring the stuff out of the brain. Terry, you’re a forerunner for the cellular detox drops. You probably didn’t know that, but maybe you did.

Terry:
No, I didn’t. Everything makes sense. Like I said, it’s every four hours. I’m on my second day I’m on the four day on right now. I automatically – my wife sets the alarm at 2:30 in the morning to take my ALA, but it’s amazing. I wake up at 2:25 every morning, knowing that I have to take it, and I take it. I wake up,  so you can turn the alarm off and not wake her. It’s so amazing, you get in sequence with everything. Then you have your pills lined up and everything is just easy. I feel that I’m living life every day now. Before, I was existing, and that sounds crazy. My life now is every day is a full day. Before, I—what’s next week? What’s next week? I live for today and every day is a beautiful day. Especially if you’ve got, when you find God and he finds you, or you find Him, it’s amazing how your life changes in every way. It’s sort of like, I used to go to church just to go to church. Now I’m in church, and your products and everything that I read about them, now they say, well, I’m taking that. I read everything now and it’s amazing and it all makes sense. You actually make sense. When we first started, nothing made any sense. I knew I was detoxing, but now everything makes sense and my correspondence with you, and our times that we have together has just been – everything has just been a blessing.

Dr. Pompa:
Another product that you’ve been on for a long time now is the GCEL and the Bind, the Intracellular Detox System, which we do within the heavy metal system. The folks watching, read the articles when detox is dangerous. There’s three-part articles on my website where I talk about heavy metals done right – heavy metal detox done right (Part 1, Part 2 and Part 3). Most people do it wrong. Raising intercellular glutathione is very important for cancer. We had you on the GCEL and binding it up so it doesn’t recirculate. It’s part of this whole process. You hear Terry saying, 4 days on, 10 days off that we cycle. Adding the cellular detox drops in, we’re able to pull out even other chemicals as well as the other heavy metals that are deeper into the tissue. That’s really the process. There’s another product called ASEA, which we always say, “Gosh when I run out, my energy drops.” I don’t know how long we’ve had you on the ASEA now, but it’s…

Terry:
It’s been a while. I get it every month. We’ve had it pretty much from the beginning, we went on ASEA, but again, like I said before, when I was off of it a few days, I could tell. Like different athletes take it, because I didn’t have as much jump in my mood as I did, and I don’t think it was psychological, I think it was the ASEA. Again, that’s a blessing, and that’s just another product. The main thing, Doc, you know, I think all these products are amazing, but you can go to Amazon, you can go to all the bogus products you want that are similar to these. The thing that I know now, you have to have guidance whatever you do. Taking a cleanse and doing a cleanse, you have to do it the right way. So many—I’ve taken cleanses before, but I didn’t know what I was doing, and most people don’t—or what product to take. This has been the biggest blessing to basically go through what I’m going through. I know what I’m taking is doing good for me because I’m going through somebody who knows a lot about it. Where a lot of people will just go and say “a cleanse,” and they’ll get on Amazon and okay, four-day cleanse, and they’ll take the cleanse, but are they really cleansing? I know when I’m detoxing and cleansing, just from my test results from your original test results, if we would have taken that cancer base, what my last blood test, it would have been off the charts. Just in three months from when I started from you, I was at, again, medium, I had to be below a 36, and I was a 7. Just in that short period of time, I detoxed that much. It’s just totally amazing. There’s nothing but—know that there’s a long life for myself.

Dr. Pompa:
I know David has questions, but one of the things I just want to say is just that process you just said early on, what did we do? I applied my 5R’s. We started you on raising glutathione, but then you are more energy, remember, if people read my 5R articles, this is not rocket science folks. We’re increasing the cellular function. If you don’t fix the cell, you’re never get well. Terry, you are proof of that. David, I know you have some questions as well.

David:
Yeah, one of the things Terry, that you’re talking about, in life and business and in health, it’s something that most people don’t think about, but you’re right, most people will say, okay I’ll go on Amazon or you go to a health food store, and I’m going to buy a cleanse they say, “Okay, I cleansed.” What you’re doing differently, is you’ve had a coach in your corner. You’ve had someone who believes in you as much as you believe in yourself and because of that, you’re willing to do – if you’re an athlete, your coach tells you to do something, you do something. In this sense, if your coach is telling you to do something, you’re on the product. You’re doing everything that you’re being told and because of that it’s showing me, right now, in listening to you, that belief, that personal responsibility, the action that you’re taking – do you think if you didn’t have a coach in your corner, you would be where you are today?

Terry:
No, there’s no way I’d be, but I think it’s more than a coach in a corner. It’s like going to the doctor. You don’t really know the doctor. I know Dr. Pompa now, he’s like a friend. It’s the trust, and I have totally, from the beginning, trusted him and I trust him more and more all the time. He could tell me, he’s told me every time we write it down, what to take, and I’ve taken exactly what it was I was supposed to take, when I was supposed to take it, how much I was supposed to take. The results have been amazing. I think the big difference is the trust in the person who’s telling you what to do, that he cares.

I’ve gone to many doctors’ offices where I was going to see once a year, or say six months, they didn’t care. You could tell they didn’t care. It’s like going to the oncologist, the only way they care if I was going be on their product. He cared right from the beginning, within the first 40 minutes, I think—whatever time we had, our first session. I knew—I got off the phone and I talked to my wife, I said, “This is the man who’s going to take me—save my life,” and I truly believed that. I truly believe that’s when my wife said, “I love you,” and we both love you because you care. We’ve read your story, and you’re living through your own life, it isn’t just something you, “Oh, I think I’ll do this.” That means a lot, to really care—to actually have somebody care about how you are. Even after through this, we’ll probably always have a phase, but you’ll always be on my Christmas list and you’ll always be a friend. That means the world to me.

David:
Having someone that cares—you just said it. Someone who cares so much, they’re now a friend. They believe in you. I want to actually go back, because there’s one thing we talked about the amalgam, you talked about the root canals, you talked about acid reflux when you took that out. One of the things that we actually had about a half hour discussion before we went live, was one of the homes you lived in actually had mold in it as well.

Terry:
Correct. It had mold, and it’s a rental we were going through, and then you go through the process. They’re going to do this, they’re going to do that. Then you find out, through the mold, what it causes. I’m sure it raised the toxin base up and then we go back to the pesticides. I used to spray everything. I completely get stuff that’s non-toxic. It’s amazing, you think, we all think we’re Superman, we’re going to live forever. That’s how I felt. Okay, my dad has lived through this, and I’m Superman, I’m going to live forever. I found out that Superman thing’s not working out. Through the toxins, and we got that taken care of, plus I smoked for years. I smoked cigarettes for years. You go with the cigarettes and the diet soda, the mold, the whatever.

Dr. Pompa:
Not anymore.

Terry:
Exactly. I tell my wife, I said, “It’s not a wonder I got sick,” but I also say this, too, and everyone thinks I’m crazy, but I don’t really care. Getting the cancer—getting cancer—it actually was a good thing. It made me a better person and I know I’m going to live a long time. I’m going to live a better person. I would rather exist for a day, I mean to be alive for a day, than to exist for a year. I’m not existing anymore, I’m alive. I’m alive every day – every day is a day. I feel healthy every day.

Before, in my life, and I have a lot of friends who do say, “Yeah, okay.” You should see them, they’re really dead on their feet. I’m not dead on my feet. I’m a happy man. I’ve got a good friend, I’ve got a doctor I could go to, and I told my wife this, I said, “I just want to get away from the regular doctors.” They were calling me, screw-up one thing or another, they’d make one saying I had this, I didn’t have this, or they put a feeding tube in, keep it too long where they had to use surgery to go cut it out. Just get me away from those people so I can actually get a doctor who can actually guide me on what I’m supposed to do and not worry about insurance and the money.

Dr. Pompa:
You know what, you need a coach, not a doctor. I’m a good coach.

Terry:
No, no, you—but I think everyone needs a coach.

Dr. Pompa:
No, listen. Everyone needs a—we hire coaches to improve our golf swing.

Terry:
Exactly.

Dr. Pompa:
What about our health, right? That’s the key? What do the doctors say now? What do they say now, as they saw you really become a miracle?

Terry:
Well, my surgeon said, which is real important, because of protocol, and his friend was Dr. Williams, who was the oncologist. When I went back and he saw me and he saw my blood results, and he saw how—he looked at me and saw how good a shape I was in—and I would have been on my last month of chemo when he saw me. He said, “Thank God you didn’t listen to me.”

Dr. Pompa:
Oh, my Gosh.

Terry:
Then he kind of asked me what I was doing, and I was explaining it to him, and it was all Greek to him. He had no idea what a coffee enema was. Okay, I’m wasting my time even having a conversation about this stuff, because he just knew about surgery. Of course, going through—if you go through college, where teachers rip everybody apart. You people don’t know anything what you’re talking about.

They never, one time, any doctor that I had, before I got to you, mentioned one thing about diet. It was, “You’ve got pancreatic cancer,” they were serving candy in the office. They were nothing about natural foods, they were nothing about organic foods, they were nothing about anything. As a matter of fact, in the hospital, my last day, they said, “Okay, you can eat.” They just gave me a menu. They didn’t tell me what I could eat. It was crazy.

Dr. Pompa:
It’s like we’ll just fill you back up with the causes, you know. That’s not even on their radar. It’s a different world, it really is. Listen, I appreciate medicine in emergency. No doubt about it. It has its place, but as far as chronic diseases go and as far as really health, true health, get out as soon as you can. Terry, somehow you did it. I just want to share this with people because you mention even a coffee enema and I think that—I hope we can see this and David, maybe you can help me a bit here. What I drew here, I just want to show you how simple this is, okay. This is a cell up here. This is where a lot of our, Terry, a lot of our original stuff as going on. 

Terry:
Still taking it.

Dr. Pompa:
All that stuff, right? eNRG, so we started fixing the cellular function, right? This is it, this is why people get cancer. This is why people (inaudible) brain. We started fixing the cell, but as we started fixing it, toxins start to dump to the liver, which by the way, that’s a liver that I drew there. Now, you said about a coffee enema, a lot of people do coffee enemas because what it does is it dumps the liver. If you’re not up here, then the coffee enema, it’s only a part of it. Coffee enemas dump the liver so the toxins don’t stay here, right?

We had you on some other liver products, then they end up – after they dump the liver, they end up in your gut, in that little snaky thing there is the gut. Here’s the thing. Most of what’s in the gut, you reabsorb back to the liver and ultimately back to the cell. There we bind it up to make sure it’s out of the body. Of course we’re using very specific detoxes and different things to help bind up this stuff at the cell. True detox starts here. Then we just help it out of the body, out of the liver. Coffee enemas, boy I’ll tell you what, they saved your life, part of it, right? I mean the big thing.

Terry:
Actually, I enjoy them. After I have a coffee enema, I just, you know, I feel amazing. It’s amazing, it’s like clockwork. My brother came to visit just last—a few days ago, and he’s drinking 10 cups of coffee, and I said, and then I got on the computer, I said, “Here’s all the bad things that coffee’s doing for you,” and then I got the coffee enema, now read this—all the good things that coffee doing for you. I guess, when I take coffee my way, it’s a lot better than taking it your way.

Dr. Pompa:
This is a system. This is real detox. A lot of people do coffee enemas, but they’re not up here at the cell. A lot of people do coffee enemas, but they’re not binding it up in the gut so you don’t reabsorb it. Then, of course, they’re not using specific detox for the toxins that you’ve been exposed to. You’ve been exposed to mold. Obviously, we tested your heavy metals. You have to use specific binders in that process. It is this process that saved your life, man, you know.

Terry:
You know what, we started from the beginning, I sit there, we look, and you could just see exactly what you did and to the next process, and then when you said, “You’re going to be on this two years,” but it all makes sense. Everything makes sense, but when I started, in July I believe, no June—it was in June, I had no idea, and it’s amazing what went through…

David:
Book, by the way.

Dr. Pompa:
You started in April.

Terry:
You go back to your Cellular Healing Diet Book. My brother – we were at Thanksgiving, he said, “What are you on? What do you eat?” I want your diet. First of all, go (inaudible) Pompa. If you’re that cheap, you can get some free recipes and then I said, “Just order his book,” and so my brother’s all over this book to start getting on the food to get the proper nutrition for the proper diet. It all works hand in hand. It’s got to be diet, too. The proper diet. You’ve got regular diet and then Cellular Healing Diet, and it’s all about good food. I order all my meats, what you had me take, the turkey and the bison, and it all works hand in hand. I haven’t eaten anything – I’m very strict, too – that’s not organic since this whole thing started.

Dr. Pompa:
You know what? You said to me, Day 1, “Dr. Pompa, I’m going to do whatever you tell me to do. I’m coach-able. I want to point out two things. Obviously, I pointed out this system, but David, how about this? It’s like you chose it as we said in the beginning, right? You looked at your circumstances as something that made you better, because you said, “Man, I thank God for it, looking back.”

It’s this adversity that you immediately said it’s going to change me for the better, and that’s exactly what happened. I believe our mindset really is massive, especially when people are dealing with these chronic diseases. Some people can look at their circumstances and let it beat them down. You look at your circumstances and said, “Man, I’m going to be a better person.” You became a better person, a healthier person. A person who’s going to make a difference in the world. A person who’s going to serve out your calling from God. That was a choice, man, it really was.

David:
It’s a person that lives every day, and it’s a choice. From the time I got on the video with you and Cheryl this morning, both of you—your energy, your positivity, man, does it come through. It’s magnetic. I said, “Man, this story, and how you show up and how you choose to live, anyone who watches this, whether they’re going through something or not, there’s something for them to take from this because of how you’re choosing to live.” I just think it’s such an amazing story. I thank you so much for being here and sharing it with us.

Terry:
I thank you and I feel totally blessed, and I appreciate everything that’s been done for me. It takes – you reach out to people and people responded. Even on Facebook, I got a lot of Facebook friends, and I’ve got people now that are changing diets, changing the way they live, because I taught for 30 years, and I was a coach, and I have all my different players, and it’s amazing how people rally around each other. Again, they rally around people they trust. I think trust is a big issue and that’s where Dr. Pompa’s easy to trust. All they have to do is read his story and read about him and what he’s done, and he’s done miracles I know, for a lot of people, and he’s definitely done a miracle for me and he’ll always be one of my true heroes of my life.

Dr. Pompa:
Well, I appreciate it, Terry. I sure do. I can honestly say the only reason I can be here or help an amazing guy like you, is because of my own adversities. Like you, I thank God for the years of struggle that I had as well, because I would never have learned what I’ve learned. I would never even be able to be that trusting doctor that really cares if it wasn’t for my adversity, so I, too, am a better client. I think that gives our watchers and listeners a lot of hope.

I know that there’s people watching this right now that are going through their struggle, and I can promise, if you know that God works all things out for good, for those who love him and those are called according to His purpose, then therefore, you are going to be better. Start looking at it that way. The mind—the body follows the mind. When my son was trying to teach me how to do a flip, he says, “Dad, the body follows the head.” I’m, like, well, isn’t that the truth?

Terry, it started with your mindset, and then we added some cellular healing. I can’t take credit for any of it. Listen, I pray for the client, that God wants me to help and the ones that I can’t help. Terry, God led me – or you to me, and I just serve through it. I am honored – honored to serve Him and serving a guy like you and every person God brings me. Thank you for that testimony. Thank you so much. Appreciate that. David, thanks for leading us out.

David:
Thank you, and I’m honored to be on this call. Terry, you’re a world changer and I’m so honored to have met you today, and I look forward to keeping in touch, because you’re amazing.

Terry:
David, I appreciate it, and Doc, we’ll talk to you soon and bless you both, and like they say in the Good Book, you believe you receive. I’m receiving every day.

David:
Love that, thank you. Thank you very much. That’s a good way to end today. If you believe, you receive. Thank you everyone for tuning in. Let those who are listening to the podcast, who are watching online now, and/or will be watching in the future. Thank you everyone. We’ll see you next week.