2015 Podcasts

Transcript of Episode 54: Sleep and Anxiety Issues

With Dr. Daniel Pompa, Warren Phillips and David Asarnow.

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Warren:
We are live. You always get a little bit of our back-end conversation as we start the show. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV, Episode 54. Here with Dr. Dan Pompa and my amazing co-host, David Asarnow. Say hello, David.

David:
Hello, David.

Dr. Pompa:
Hello, David.

David:
Hello, Warren. Hello, Dr. Pompa.

Warren:
This light, lamp, from the hotel room, you were right Dr. Pompa. I just—you can see everything about me right now with that light. It did a really great job. You can see my…

David:
I can see your beard coming in, too.

Warren:
Yeah, it’s coming in nicely. So let’s get into a topic that’s absolutely amazing. If you’re watching this right now, and you have trouble sleeping, you have trouble getting to sleep, getting to—and if you do get to sleep, you wake up three to four hours later, and you can’t get back to sleep, or sometimes you wake up in the middle of the night full of anxiety and thinking about things. You’re revved, as they say. You have heart palpitations. This topic, this show, is for you, sleep and anxiety. Some of the same problems that occur because of hormonally, obviously, in your brain that cause sleep disturbance also is a big part of anxiety.

So Dr. Pompa, this is something that I’ve dealt with in my journey. I know that you have, and even occasionally still do when we get exposures like from perfumes, and colognes, and at times, formaldehyde, that can still cause that. But let’s get into this topic of sleep and anxiety. This is something you’re definitely an expert on, and something you can share with our audience today that can really transform some lives because sleep is key, guys.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, unfortunately, I think we both became an expert when—obviously, when we were sick. It was either the nights where we couldn’t get to sleep, or it was the nights where you wake up at 3 or 4 in the morning and can’t get back to sleep. If that’s all it was, it’d been fine for me, but I would wake up with these feelings of dread and anxiety that just rose up from here. So, God, I dreaded those nights. As a matter fact, I even remember dreading the nights because I just—it was always that thing of, “Oh, my God, if I spend another night laying there in bed,” and worse yet, with feelings of anxiety. Nah, I wouldn’t go back to those days for anything.

But I’m positive, though, it drove us. Didn’t it? I mean, we’ve learned—both of us, Warren, I mean, we learned—we both became sleep experts because of it. I mean, obviously—and I want to say this right at the top. Look. You don’t ever solve those problems completely like Warren and I did until you actually get upstream to the cause. When I got enough of the mercury out of my pituitary gland, pineal gland, which I’ll talk a little bit about today, then, of course, I was never, ever going to be able to truly sleep. But we sure did a lot of cocktails, and we sure found a lot of things that worked along the way as crutches while we got the mercury out of our brains.

So if you haven’t read my last article that we just released this week about the brain, you saw some shows on it, please do. I talk about brain detox, which really goes along with this show as well, healing the brain, which goes along with this show as well, so kind of promoting that article for sure. You will gain a lot of valuable information for not just but for your family and loved ones because so many people are losing cognitive function, memory, and let me tell you something. You people who are out there who have anxiety and sleep issues, you’re at the front of that line. Trust me. It’s brain decay. It’s brain degeneration. Please read the article. All right, Warren, so that’s at the top of the show. You have to get to the cause to truly solve this problem, but we’ll go from there.

Warren:
I think that’s what’s different, Dr. Pompa. It’s like a lot of people who are doing shows, “Hey, we’re going to do this, and take my sleep formula. You’re going to get your life back.” Well, ain’t going to happen. I mean, it’s a great—it may work for one or two nights. It may work one or two nights a week to help you knock down your cortisol. Relax your body. There’s a lot of science behind that, but if you don’t get to the cause, you’re done.

Along the way, I know—Dan, just to say another thing about my story. Why I’m passionate about it. A lot of these things lead into chronic inflammation as well and a lot of pain. That’s actually some of your brainwork that you discussed in your last article on the brain is the inflammation in the brain. What’s the number one cause of inflammation in the brain? Obviously, mercury so this upstream source, and getting to the source, getting the mercury out of the pituitary, the hypothalamus, no one’s talking about that because they’re more interested in pushing a product, like a pharmaceutical company would, promoting this happy, loving, wonderful lifestyle, even though you have incontinence. But yet, you can survive, or if you have low testosterone, well, you can get your life back. Well, it doesn’t work that way. There’s no magic pill or bullet out there. We need to speak the truth.

Dr. Pompa:
You know what? Obviously, this show right here could be our number one show that people are going, “That’s me,” right? I mean, honestly. I’m telling you, even people who consider themselves not sick and healthy. “Oh, yeah, well, I don’t sleep great a lot of nights,” or “Yeah, I get some anxiety.” None of that’s normal, by the way, and it’s a sign—this is a sign of neurotoxic illness, which several people have. How many people are going upstream, and really getting to the cause? No, man, they’re downstream, even the alternative folks. They’re downstream with things that just—trying to deal with it. They’re trying to deal with their adrenals.

Because, obviously, we know that sleep problems are a lot of adrenal related issues. You’re not adapting. You’re producing cortisol at the wrong times. It’s cell energy problems. You wake up in the middle of the night. You can’t maintain your glucose levels. You can’t maintain your energy levels. By the way, it takes a lot of energy to sleep, so you start releasing adrenaline in the middle of the night. And we’ll talk about solutions to this because that one—that’s kind of the things that we realized that when you wake up at 3 or 4 in the morning, your body’s just driving adrenaline and cortisol from your adrenal glands, maybe because your adrenal glands were wiped out through the day.

And again, I’m going to give you all a way to measure this, and even help you with this process because it gets very confusing. Okay, I’m going to drop in glucose. We’ll send a rise in cortisol to adapt it to that—the body’s always trying to survive or it’ll send out adrenaline

David:
You know what’s interesting? You mentioned, Dr. Pompa, that this could be the number one show. I just did a google search, and it said that 75% of adult Americans experience sleep disorders. I mean, everyone that I know, everyone, pretty much, that I know, says that they have challenges sleeping at night. They get up multiple times a night. They have trouble going back to sleep. So this is a big challenge, and people just say, “Oh, it’s my back,” “Oh, it’s this,” “Oh, it’s that,” “Oh, let me take a pill.”

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah.

Warren:
And 25%, though, Dr. Pompa, the other 25% are probably males that say, “I sleep great,” or “I’m tough. I sleep four hours in a night,” and they’re actually proud of it, and they don’t realize that’s massively abnormal. So the other 25%, David, they’re probably having sleep problems too. It’s probably 100% of America. So if you’re watching this, “No, I sleep great. I sleep four hours.”  Uh-huh. Not good.

David:
That’s not normal.

Dr. Pompa:
Listen. This is the dog that bites you twice. I guess a wasp instead of a bee. Because what happened—my son just had bee down his pants that stung him three times.

David:
A wasp.

Dr. Pompa:
Yes, I was explaining him the difference. There comes that analogy. That was a Warren-ism. Anyway, so the point is is that you don’t sleep, and now your body’s not healing, right? So it’s now you start getting problems with that. You start getting overuse syndromes, injury, pain. I mean, all kinds of other fatigue…

Warren:
Fibromyalgia, chronic pain, back pain.

Dr. Pompa:
I mean, so it’s sleep. And then here’s a lot of people. They’re in bed for 8 or 9 hours, perhaps. However, they’re not getting into that deep REM sleep. We’re going to talk about that too. So I do have a lot of things to talk about. We kind of set up part of the problem is that—look. The pituitary runs your thyroid. It runs your adrenal glands. And everyone plays around downstream with those, but we always that what’s really going on?

Warren, we had tons of mercury and toxins that bioaccumulated in our pituitary gland. That’s why our endocrine system was never normal. Well, there’s another problem too, your pineal gland, which actually makes melatonin. You need melatonin to get into those deep REM sleeps and those deeper phases of sleep. So a lot of people make it through the night, but they’re really not hitting any of those. And they’re wiped out, and they wonder why. Well, certain toxins, heavy metals—we’ll use that as our example because that was Warren and I’s gig, and there’s others, but the pineal gland actually is part of the brain, but it sits outside the blood-brain barrier. And why is that significant? Because it really takes the hits, so it starts to get very toxic and accumulate heavy metals, especially, and there’s reasons for that.

But then it starts to drop your production of heavy metals. Therefore, now—I’m sorry, your production of melatonin, so now that affects your sleep. Now here’s the problem. Melatonin is a carrier of something called sulfate. Sulfate, your nervous system, your brain, actually needs to function with. So without enough sulfate—by the way, this is a growing epidemic because of another toxin and heavy metals, the toxin glyphosate that we talked about in the past. But anyways, sulfate, your brain needs to function. So now you start getting depleted of sulfate.

At night, your body produces melatonin. When you get enough sun in the day and the outside exposures, your body produces enough sulfate. So when your pineal gland gets toxic, well, guess what? Now you’re not producing enough sulfate—and really, we call it melatonin sulfate, which is how your nerve system works, and how you sleep. So this is one of the big problems. So again, you have to get upstream.

Then, if you have silver fillings in your mouth, we know where most of that mercury is going. It is crossing the blood-brain barrier. It is going right into the pituitary hypothalamus, so again, multiple reasons why we don’t sleep. It affects your pituitary, which affects your adrenals, which now you’re releasing cortisol and adrenaline in the middle of the night, can’t stay asleep. It affects the pineal gland, which affects melatonin, can’t get into a deep sleep. So this is the core issue. Let me give you some tips that—Warren, you’re going to add into some of those tips because you have your…

Warren:
Yeah. I was just going to stop you, and this one question is that—you said something really important, and I don’t want to gloss over it because I remember when this happened to you. Which is you removed the source, R1, at a time in your life—and you probably know what that was because it was the first time you slept. So you didn’t take any sleep medication. You didn’t take any—some of the tricks and tips they’re going to give you, but that first night, when you removed that stress off your body, your body went into healing. And what did it do? It went to sleep. And what did you do that first time you got some good sleep again, Dr. Pompa? What happened?

Dr. Pompa:
Well, I had some filling—it was like when my fillings came out.

Warren:
Exactly.

Dr. Pompa:
Massive difference—actually, even when I had a root canal taken out, I felt a massive difference drop in my anxiety levels, which was massive. And when they took the gold filling out, and I still had silver fillings in, I felt that anxiety level go out so as the sources came out, I definitely noticed a drop but caution, caution, right there. If you haven’t read the article, When Detox is Dangerous, please read the article. There’s a zillion pitfalls. One of which I see all the time. People get this fixed, and then they don’t go into the brain detox. I describe a little bit of brain detox in the last article on the brain, but also, when detox is dangerous, there’s three parts. I describe it there. That’s magic.

If you don’t do that, we have a honeymoon period where we feel a little better, and then what happens is is you crash because you never got to the source where the metals are bioaccumulated in other toxins. And that’s the brain.

Warren:
It’s one of our big three. Moldy home, same thing, get out of that. You sleep for the first night. If you stayed at a hotel, and then you sleep better, it’s like, “Ah, so it’s the cause.” I know that that’s a—we’ve done that on past shows, but just as an example, there’s a doctor that we talked to yesterday. We’re training doctors, again. That’s what we do. Dr. Pompa’s on stage here in about an hour, actually, less than hour, 45 minutes. So we will wrap this show up at about 10:30 Mountain Standard Time.

He got his amalgams out, but he’s still sick because he’s not doing what he’s supposed to do, which is the body detox of the mercury in the brain phase. He hasn’t got into that yet. And so he’s remained sick, and it’s hard. It takes willpower. You need a coach to coach you through. If I didn’t have a personal trainer, I would not workout. I just wouldn’t do it. I need somebody to push me, and hold me accountable to doing what’s right. So I’ll leave that topic there, but I just want to give you another example, guys. This is serious business when it comes to heavy metal detoxification.

Dr. Pompa:
There’s no doubt, and you do need a coach. That’s why we’re training doctors around the country.

David:
But, Dr. Pompa, it’s not just—they’ve got to do the detox properly, but then it’s going through the re-inoculation, fixing your gut. Doing all those things that all of a sudden, doesn’t—isn’t that what—all of sudden, a light bulb goes off and you start feeling differently. You start sleeping through the night. Is that part of the process?

Dr. Pompa:
Well, I mean, as the metal started coming out of my brain, I got my nights back completely, right, I mean, but it was process. As I started that brain phase of metal detox, then my nights started coming consistently, and that was huge. Removing the source, I started feeling like there was hope. But, yeah, David, of course I had to fix my downstream detox pathways. My gut was obviously trashed, my liver, my kidneys. I mean, all those things. That’s why you need a coach. Because before you go into this process, even the removal, you have to really make sure that those downstream detox pathways are open.

So imagine this. Here you are trying to fix your little stream where you want to fly fish. I’m just talking Warren’s language a little bit. Your fish are dying, and you’re putting new fish in there, and trying to get your place where you love to fish right. And the fish keep dying, or they’re going away. And you’re wondering what’s going on? And you keep putting new fish in, and you keep doing things to help the algae and all the good stuff. But meanwhile, you find out that upstream there’s a factory. It’s dumping little bits of lead and mercury into the water.

Well, are you ever going to get those fish to take hold, and the algae, and all the microorganisms? No way, man, so you have to go upstream in root of the source. But in the meantime, we do want to get those organisms back in the gut because this gut plays into this—well, this brain plays into this brain so very important stuff that we just talked about. Okay, so what do we do…

Warren:
Guys, I mean, just for the Cellular Healing TV. We always come back to this, and we discuss this all the time, and bring it into these different topics because it’s the truth. It’s a real solution. And we spend a little time talking about true cellular detoxification. That is so key to getting your life back. We don’t just want to give you little Band-Aids. Although, you need some trick and tips to get yourself feeling a little bit better, so that you can spend more time with your family a little bit. Get some of those pharmaceutical commercial moments where you have a good day, where you get a good night’s sleep. But at the end of the day, we’re not going to sugarcoat this thing. You have to remove the source.

Dr. Pompa:
If we looked at the statistics, how many people are taking anti-anxiety drugs, anti-depression drugs, sleep drugs, forget it. What are we doing? I mean, come on folks. You’re smarter than that. There’s a cause. There’s a reason. Don’t live your life in effect. Be a 3&er as we say, and live your life in cause. And what we just talked about right there in that moment is cause.

It’s like, when you look at my 5R's, that is really cellular detox, right? I mean, those things have to be fixed to set a level. Warren, you just heard me talk to these doctors yesterday, right? And what was I saying? Look. People are functioning down here doing colon cleanses, liver cleanses, and all these different things. FAR infrared saunas, all great, but none of it is true cellular detox, right? We got to get the cell working, and then we can use those things as tools to keep these pathways open. If you don’t fix this, if you don’t start here, what good is it? We start here with these brain cells, clearing those, in the pituitary, that’s how you fix your cellular problems, and your endocrine system, and your hormone problems.

But, all right, I want to give you something. I’m going to share this with even the doctors tomorrow, actually, but it’s a little trick to be able to help this issue with anxiety and sleep. You can do an orthostatic blood pressure. And Warren doesn’t know this yet, but he’s going to help me with this tomorrow, with the group.

Warren:

Okay.

Dr. Pompa:

So one thing—and I kind of got addicted to it, I admit, when I was sick. You can do an orthostatic blood pressure where you’re taking your blood pressure lying down. So you lie down for 5 or 10 minutes. Get everything settled. Then you take your blood pressure. Write down your systolic number. That’s the bigger number. That’s the top number, okay? The bottom number for this doesn’t matter as much.

So you write down the systolic, and then you undo the cuff. Keep the cuff on your arm. By the way, you can just use the drug store pumper upper. So you don’t even need the whole thing, right. You can do your own gig. Then you can get those things for $20-$50. Obviously, the more money you spend, the better, more accurate they are.

Warren:
No, but there’s one of those little electronic blood pressure cuffs, Dr. Pompa. You can get them online.

Dr. Pompa:
Yep. That’s it. So you put it on. You take your pressure. Then you un-deflate. Wait a minute. And then you stand up, and as you’re standing up, you’re getting the blood pressure going again, start pumping it up as you’re standing up. Get up and pump it up quickly. And then you’re going to stand there and wait. And you’re going to look at your blood pressure.

It should raise about ten. Five is a little adrenal weakness. If it stays the same or drops, you’ve got some major adrenal issues. Therefore, during the day, we want to support those adrenal glands because that plays into your anxiety. How you adapt to stress. And it also plays into how you’re going to sleep through the night. So we want to use things like—we use Ga, Warren, as a great product, and there’s some adaptogens types of products too.

Okay, even some sea salt works really good to support the adrenal gland. B vitamins, MoRs is a product, it’s a methylation product, that really does support the B vitamins so just some little tips there. And we’ve done some other adrenal shows in the past. You can go back and watch those videos. That’s if your number drops to five below, and if it drops really below—meaning if you’re getting a drop of ten, it’s like you’ve got major, major adrenal issues.

Now what happens when this happens? And I hated these days even worse. Sometimes your adrenals come fighting back into a hyper mode where you start producing more cortisol, at more anxiety. And this is where you can wake up in the middle night just, like I said—or you don’t even get the sleep. But here’s what happens. So you pump up the cuff, and you go up 20, 30, or even 40. I remember times where it would rise up 50. So let’s say I’m 120. Okay? Let’s just use that as the bottom number.

So what happens is you’ll end up being, instead of 130, which is normal, it should raise about 10—now instead of 130, you’re going to 140, 50, or 160 on your systolic. What’s happening is is you’re producing too much cortisol. You’re producing too much adrenaline to compensate for just this standing up mode, and you’re with that nervous system. Your nervous system is firing too hot. Typically, you don’t get to sleep.

Now we just developed a new product, which is coming out this weekend. It’s called Calm. So my suggestion there would be to take Calm, obviously, through the day to taper that down. When your number drops, that systolic drops, now the best thing to do is take a product like Ga through the day, support the adrenals, and then take Calm just before bed.

Just in review, if it rises up above 10, 15, 20, 30, then we do Calm throughout the day. There's another product called Seriphos that we use for that. So we dose it through the day when you get that rise too high to calm that adrenal down; we're resting the adrenals. Everything's okay. You can't fix the adrenals if they're hyper all the time. We want to calm it down. When it goes drop, we want to support the adrenals with a filter, and then use Calm at night so it doesn't come firing back. Because when your adrenals are low through the day, typically three or four in the morning, this baby's coming firing back to wake you up at night. We want to use Calm at night, or Seriphos, and if you wake up at three or four in the morning.

That's a way to dose it; it's a way to use it. I probably got many questions now.

Warren:
I want to go back and review that again. By the way, that new product, Calm, we should have it at the Revelation Health Store, which is online, RevelationHealth.com. We should have that available, and you're probably going to have to call in to get that because it probably won't be up on our site for a while. But the Ga, of course we have that. It's quite systemic. What's the other product that you mentioned? Ga and then…

Dr. Pompa:
Seriphos is—

Warren:
Interplexus. Adaptogen's Beyond Organic.

Dr. Pompa:
Adaptogen's Beyond Organic, which is Adaptogen product, but it's called Adrenatone Plus.

Warren:
Adrenatone Plus, and that's Designs for Health. We have all that stuff stocked for our clients. Let's go back to this blood pressure cuff, because I think this is a great way to monitor it. Then I know obviously when—if you have weak adrenals, you'll stand up. That's another way. If you stand up and you get light-headed, your body's not adapting to essentially that—

Dr. Pompa:
You don't need to take your blood pressure. You're dropping. Your systolic's dropping instead of rising.

Warren:
Yeah, so you don't even need to go spend the 40 bucks on Amazon.com buying a blood pressure cuff. They do that automatically; blood pressure cuff pumps itself up. You don't have to do it by itself. It automatically does it. If you want to get a cuff, it's a great way to monitor, essentially, your health. Because your adrenal health is a reflection of, obviously, your endocrine system, of your overall health. Again, sleep problems gets back to the brain, which Dr. Pompa's going to—this whole seminar's about the brain. It's a hormone issue. You're not producing melatonin.

So you think that you have a sleep problem but again, you have a hormone issue. Your body tells you to relax through hormones. It tells you to rise up and get anxious and excited. Those are all hormone response. I say hormone, I go, “Huuu,” like this now because my daughter does that when she says horse, so it's coming out. Let's get back—so that's not a speech impediment. That's just hanging out too much with my daughter, which is probably a great thing because I miss her a lot right now.

So the blood pressure thing, Dr. Pompa. Again, I remember when you first explained this to me. I just didn't get it with our viewers. Here's my hand. I’m going to lay down, and I'm going to relax for about how long? A couple two, three minutes?

Dr. Pompa:
Five minutes, five, ten minutes.

Warren:
Five, ten minutes, so I'm going to lay down there. I’m going to take my—push the button on my Omni—what's the name of the one that you use a lot?

Dr. Pompa:
I don't remember

Warren:
I don't remember, either. So a blood pressure cuff, a little electronic blood pressure cuff, Amazon.com, electronic blood pressure cuff, and you take it and the top number is your, what, systolic?

Dr. Pompa:
Yep.

Warren:
That'll be your systolic. You write that number down, and then you—after you get that number, then what?

Dr. Pompa:
Just make sure the cuff's deflated.

Warren:
Deflate the cuff.

Dr. Pompa:
Stand up and immediately press the button, pump it up, whatever which one you have. Take the blood pressure again.

Warren:
Okay, so you're up there, you get your blood pressure, and then you—after you get your blood pressure and it goes beep, you have another number. Is it the top number again?

Dr. Pompa:
Always, systolic, yep.

Warren:
Systolic, okay, and then so let's give some numbers.

Dr. Pompa:
Let's just say this:  normal, it should rise 10.

Warren:
Let's give some numbers. What's a good resting systolic?

Dr. Pompa:
The normal should rise 10, not above 15.

Warren:
Can we do a number, though?

Dr. Pompa:
Okay, how about 5 to 15 as a normal range?

Warren:
No, but what's the standing number, like 250? When you're resting, what would be a number so we can show the math?

Dr. Pompa:
We're dealing with 120 as a normal?

Warren:
Okay, 120, yeah. Resting is 120.

Dr. Pompa:
Look, 110 may be your normal; 130 may be your normal.

Warren:
I just want to show them the numbers.

Dr. Pompa:
Okay, so just work with the normal, so to speak, and let's not get caught up in that, but the “normal.” Then you would stand up; what would normal be? 130.

Warren:
Then standing, 130.

Dr. Pompa:
It could be 114. I'm sorry, it could raise 15, so let's say it could be 130. If it was 135, okay, you're still okay. If it's 140 or 145 or 150, you need to take a product like Calm or Seriphos throughout the day. Let me dose it for you. I would say, if you raise up 30 or 40 above—let's say you're 120 to 150, then I would say take two pills three times a day throughout the day.

By the way, mine would raise up sometimes 40 or 50. I was taking the Seriphos. I was taking probably 10 a day just to—and when I did, it was good. My anxiety level was so much better, and then I would sleep through the night. By the way, I would pump that sucker up, and I would see that rise sometimes when my adrenals were fighting back. Oh, forget it. I couldn't even get to sleep those nights.

So if I saw that, my wife took my blood pressure cuff at one point and hid it from me. She was like, “You're creating your own anxiety.” She was probably right, because I would see that number, but it was a real number now. When I saw that number rising up above 20, I knew I wasn't sleeping that night.

Warren:
Yeah, and you kind of knew in your heart that that was going to be the case based on probably your behavior and how you felt but that you give yourself some number evidence; “I'm not going to sleep tonight.”

Dr. Pompa:
My adrenals would fight back, and I would just go days without sleeping at all. I learned this trick, right? So if I would see that, I would get right on it, and I would use the Seriphos and, like you said, Calm is even better. It's a Seriphos on steroids. I would use that through the day, and then I could sleep better through the night. So that's the trick, right?

Warren:
So 120, and then you would pop to sometimes 160. Your adrenals would push your systolic up that high.

Dr. Pompa:
I was really irritable, too, when that happened. When those numbers were higher, I had higher irritability, too. We can only last so long in that phase, and then your adrenals go, pheww, and then they drop off. Then you could be in that hypo phase for months, and then I would try to support my adrenals sometimes. Then I would go hyper, so that's a lot of things that people don't realize. I would go hyper.

What was wrong? My pituitary was wrong. My hypothalamus, that's the feedback mechanism That's why fiddling around down here with the adrenal glands was tricky territory. So the only way I was really able to dial it in was with this method of using orthostatic.

So again, then I would drop. My adrenals would crash. So the only way I was able to support them using some adrenal products is if I, at night, would still have to take a calm product, like the Calm, or the Seriphos. So I'm not taking it through the day. I’m taking adrenal-builders through the day when my numbers drop. Then at night, I'm still protecting the adrenals from firing back at three or four in the morning Then I take the Calm only at night, not through the day. So go ahead and review that.

Warren:
Okay, so resting—so this is when you crash, when your adrenals drop 10 or more? So your resting's at 120 and then you stand and then your 110.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, or maybe I'm just 120. I'm just 120. I don't rise or fall. That's still not good. That's adrenal exhaust. Or you go down to 115, 110. You're really bad. That's people that are getting dizzy.

Warren:
I used to have vertigo constantly. Every time I stood up, I was like, “Ooh, I'm going to fall over.” Then people'd get annoyed because I'd say it all the time. Every time I'd stand up—”I'm sick of you saying that, Warren,” but it was true, like your wife with the blood pressure cuff. She's like, “We know. You don't have to tell us a thousand times. We already know what your adrenals are.”

Dr. Pompa:
Remember the adrenal spot for fun, for those out there? Remember the chronic fatiguer? The right side right here, you palpate your neck or have someone palpate your neck, if you have a tender spot, something that doesn't go away and it's right here, we call it the chronic fatiguer, remember? It's an adrenal thing where you're not adapting. Your adrenals are blown out, and most people with chronic fatigue syndrome have a trigger point right here. You can just palpate the muscle spasm.

I'm sorry, I'm pointing to my left. It's on the right; I apologize. I’m pointing to my left because I was looking at myself on this stupid camera. It's my right, folks.

David:
We're all sitting here massaging our necks right now.

Dr. Pompa:
On the camera, that looks like my right. I spun myself around. That's a funny thing. So it's on the right side. The trigger point is on the right right there.

Warren:
Let me—we got to wrap the show up, obviously, and we'd like to keep to 30 minutes. But anyway, I'm going to give them some of my tricks, as well. If your adrenals are revved during the day, you want to knock them down with Seriphos during the day, but you still want to support yourself at night with a Calm or some of the tricks I'm going to share with you now.

Dr. Pompa:
During the day, that's when you use Ga. Know what I'm saying? Ga and some sea salt to get them going, but use Calm at night. That's if it drops. Okay, so now let's give some sleep tips. I mean, just some other things you can take. Obviously, melatonin works for some people, not others. So Warren, go ahead and give them some of your concoctions.

Warren:
Okay, I got lots of them. But I'm going to review again. So if you have those weak—you have that drop. You go from 120, you stay at 120 or you go 120 down to 110, 115, whatever it may be, you want to support your adrenals, sea salt, GA, very simple support. Now again, we're not promoting this is all you do. This is just to help you feel better so you can start making some—getting some extra energy. You need to sleep. Sleep is key. So I'm going to keep repeating that.

Then you still, even if you have that drop, you want to support your adrenals during the day, but you still want to support your sleep hormones and drop that cortisol, and I'll slap you guys with this one a little bit. Cortisol puts you in a catabolic state. You are destroying muscle, as well. You're cannibalizing yourself. Your catabolic like a long-distance running because their hormones, their cortisol is out of whack. So just from a weight loss perspective, to give you guys a little incentive, sleep is key and your adrenal cortisol management is really key to weight loss, as well. So I just want to throw that out there, a little extra incentive to take care of yourself, remove the source. Let's go get well.

Some of the tricks that I do—and again, melatonin would work for me in a small dose. So lots of products—I like straight melatonin sometimes. I would do just a straight melatonin. Dr. Pompa actually taught me this trick. I think 10mg or 5mg under your tongue before bed and just do that and try that. Sometimes, that's—and Dr. Pompa can explain why this is the case, but if you have a weak thyroid, another endocrine gland, then melatonin is going to rev you, and you're going to get a cortisol spike in the middle of the night and not what you're looking for.

David:
Is that why when I take melatonin, I wake up after three to four hours, wide awake, and I can't go back to sleep?

Warren:
Yep.

Dr. Pompa:
Warren, on that note, it was funny. I just read something where they said that taking the melatonin could have a little effect, a little stimulation on the penile gland. If the penile gland is holding a lot of metals, there's now a theory that it creates some release of heavy metals, too, which drives the cortisol. Who knows? The point is you can try it. If it doesn't work, bail.

Warren:
Yeah, I mean, I never used to be able to use it in the past. I can use it now, and it knocks me out. But again, I can't use it multiple days in a row. So another product that has a smaller among, along with an Adaptogenic herb, some calming herbs, would be the DREM. I think it's DREM by Systemic Formulas. It's D-r-e-m. Great product; I would cycle that out. One of my favorite combinations, Dr. Pompa, that is my go-to—usually I can get two to three nights of good sleep out of it, and I mix up the amounts of this, but I'll do two magnesium so it doesn't loosen my stool, but for some of you who have constipation, you could take five of them and it wouldn't cause you to have a laxative effect.

 I take two Magnesium Malate by Designs for Health. I take two StressArrest, which has some cortisol Adaptogenic herbs, Adaptogenic amino acids like Seriphos does, some of the same ingredients. StressArrest by Designs for Health, and then I'll do two to three tryptophan, which was pulled off the market a while ago, but that's a precursor to, I believe, serotonin, right? So tryptophan, so let me review that; two Magnesium Malate, two StressArrest, and two to three tryptophan. So I would take that before bed and literally, if I got—for me in that place, when I was not doing well, if I at least got to sleep and got three to four hours of sleep, I was happy.

 Now here's the other thing I—as I got better, I didn't need something to knock me out, if you will. I would fall asleep. I wouldn't have trouble falling asleep, but I'd get that massive adrenal rush where the adrenals are trying to recover, like you mentioned, Dr. Pompa, and then I'll pop the StressArrest immediately. I still play this game with myself I still wake up sometimes just because a stressful day; my adrenals are cooked. I still push it too hard at times. I wake up four hours later after getting to sleep, and I can't get back to sleep. And I always think I can pray my way out of it, I can write down stuff on a tablet, all those things, but after an hour of still not sleeping, my go-to is three StressArrest or some Seriphos to that. I'll taper that cortisol so my body relaxes so I can get back to sleep.

 And I always fight this, Dr. Pompa. I’m like, “I can do it this time,” but no. Some nights I wake up, and I know right away my brain's starting to go, that adrenaline's starting to come. The cortisol's elevating like it should normally eight hours later or seven and a half hours later, but I'm revved, so I knock it down with some StressArrest, some Seriphos, things like that, to calm me back down and drop be back down so I can get another three, hopefully four hours of sleep.

 Those are some of my go-to tricks that I use. And then also the DREM works great, and I'll cycle off of that one week and then back onto my StressArrest, tryptophan protocol, if you will, and just kind of move back and forth between them. And then sometimes what is great is as you get healthier, when you don't take anything, you get a great night's sleep versus taking something. So remember, don't keep trying to take pills, take pills. Sometimes get off of them and see what your body can do. Sometimes you'll get a great night's sleep by taking absolutely nothing.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that's great, and here's another just write this down at home. Try this:  try starting with 3mg, low dose of melatonin, and matching it with 100mg of 5HTP, which converts into tryptophan, so you can do the same thing with the tryptophan, both sold on our website, Designs for Health, and complimentary prescription is the tryptophan, right?

Dr. Pompa:
Yep.

Warren:
Complimentary prescription to tryptophan, Designs for Health sells 5HTP.

Dr. Pompa:
Yep, so here's what it is. If that doesn't work, then you bump it up to 6mg of the melatonin, and then you bump it up to 300mg of the 5HTP, and then you can go to 9mg as a high on the melatonin and 300mg on the 5HTP. Start at the low dose and if it's not working, work your way up to 300 and 9 as a high. If that doesn't work, you can try any other things even that Warren said. Start with the orthostatic and blood pressure. Fool around with these adrenal glands when the problem's here is very difficult. This gives you a tool to use to try to figure out. Otherwise, you'll cause yourself more problems because you're pushing when you should be pulling. I hope that helps.

Warren:
Alright, well, we do need to wrap it up. We went 10 minutes over, Dr. Pompa. I'm going to have to—you need to shuffle down to my room here.

Dr. Pompa:
I will.

Warren:
Dr. Pompa will. I get to be on stage tomorrow; that's great, not as a speaker but whatever.

David:
A test model.

Warren:
I'm going to be a test model.

Dr. Pompa:
That's right.

Warren:
RevelationHealth.com is our store, guys, just so you—just to make that clear, RevelationHealth.com is where we take all the products with hundreds of doctors that we work with use these protocols, a lot of them. We've tired. We learned a lot of this stuff when doctors give us input. Everything we have essentially been tested and used by physicians, natural health practitioners, health coaches, from around the world. We have a new doctor coming in, flying in to learn from us from the Netherlands today and look forward to meeting him. He flew all the way out here.

 Guys, we are changing the world. We are educating—it's about education. What we do, we could sell online products and do all that stuff like a lot of other folks do, but the key is are people perished for lack of knowledge? So if you're not educating people and teaching them what they need to do to get their life back, that's what our coaches do, the doctors that we train do. That's what Dr. Pompa does. Really, really challenge folks from around the world. Man, you have to educate, so you have to share this information. You got to give them truth, let them know that there's a reason and a cause that they're sick. They don't have to live sick and suffering the rest of their life. It's just—that's our heartbeat, and we're going to say it over and over again. Thank you, Dr. Dan Pompa.

Dr. Pompa:
I'll see you in the lobby.

Warren:
See you in the lobby. Take care.

David:
See you guys.

Transcript of Episode 53: Regenerating the Cell Membrane for True Cellular Detox

With Dr. Daniel Pompa and Warren Phillips.

Warren:
Welcome, everybody. Cellular Healing TV Episode 53. I’m all excited coming out of my chair. I’m here with Dr. Daniel Pompa, our health expert. On these shows, I’m the co-host. David Asarnow is not here with us today. He’s actually speaking live at a seminar. We are live; I’m live from my office, here in Pittsburgh, and Dr. Pompa is live from California. He’s out there working with some of our doctors, and he actually just had an amazing meeting with one of the most famous health practitioners and professionals in the world, Jordan Rubin. Many of you probably know him. Founder of—New York Times bestselling author of The Maker’s Diet, it’s probably what he’s known most for, Dr. Pompa, and also, Beyond Organic; then his amazing business that he grew, Garden of Life, which sits on every shelf in Whole Foods and health food store, literally, in the world.

This guy is a world-changer. Had a great story, too, just like us, Dr. Pompa, from death to life. One of the things that he really focused on, again, is cellular healing. Whether he called it that or not, and he didn’t at the time, but he had a diet when he got his life back of really healthy fats, grass-fed meats, he did raw milk. Really, Dr. Pompa, what that did is heal the cell membrane, reduce inflammation. A lot of the 5R’s that you’ve created to make this system, where we wanted to focus today, a lot of the feedback is this idea of fats; good fats, bad fats, and roll that into your R2, which is restoring the cell membrane, which is made of fats, a lipid bi-layer. We do have a lot of great articles on that, but let’s get into some of the specifics on good fats, bad fats, as well today, Dr. Pompa, for our listeners.

Dr. Pompa:
I always say that first of all, there’s a massive 180° Solution concept here, isn’t there?  We’ve done past shows on this, so I don’t want to hit on it too much, but a lot of the fats—ironically enough, Warren, I did an interview with a guy on the street last night. He was a very funny guy. I couldn’t help myself.

Warren:
Did you get that on camera?

Dr. Pompa:
Oh, yeah, of course. I just had to ask him, because he was saying certain things, so I had to run with the 180° concept. We’ll see. If someone actually—there’s pillows going out. If someone actually—

Warren:
There’s birds and they might be talking. Just so we know, we are live. Dr. Pompa is three hours different. It’s 7 o'clock; he got up at 6 o'clock to  be on the show, cause we do these shows live;  That’s what makes them so much fun, it’s like reality TV here.

Dr. Pompa:
Look at this. I think he’s just going to slide one right under me there. Anyway, it was great. His name was Frankie Vaughn.

Warren:
Great name right there. Frankie Vaughn, ehh.

Dr. Pompa:
He was kind of messing with everyone on the boardwalk and making a joke, literally, a comedy routine with everybody right there on the boardwalk. You should have seen him and Simon going. Anyway, I had to ask him the question about what he thought a good diet was. I just knew it would be comic. It was good, but the point is this: of course cholesterol is absolutely bad. Thank God his cholesterol was—

Warren:
Normal, yeah.

Dr. Pompa:
It was a little high. It was 170. I’m telling him it was too low. Finally, he would say, “Yeah, but they say —”  Then I went, “Yeah, but Frankie, who are ‘they’?”  He’s like, “I don’t know. That’s actually a really good question.”  I said, “Could they be wrong?”  He’s like—he paused. He said, “Yeah, they could be wrong. In fact, they were wrong a lot.”  I was like, well there you go. Anyways, I got him moving in another direction. It was pretty funny.

Warren:
That’s great.

Dr. Pompa:
Saturated fat and cholesterol. Two of the big misnomers; even Frankie Vaughn—

Warren:
Yeah, Frankie Vaughn. There could be some Frankie Vaughns listening to this podcast. We’re over 12,000; we’re doing like 600, 700 downloads a day now Dr. Pompa. We’ve got 13 five star ratings on this show, just to encourage you. Getting up early and doing this is huge because there are a lot of Frankie Vaughns out there who believe that cholesterol is the gold standard, and they’re literally dying of heart attacks with normal cholesterol.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah—his was 170 for goodness sake. That’s the fear that they’ve put into us. Of course, Frankie, kind of lean. He looked like a healthy guy. He was there on his bike and all. I was promoting him as somebody who cares about his health and obviously bought into the whole concept that fat’s bad, or at least that saturated fat and cholesterol you thought definitely were bad. In the end, he did say that they could, in fact, be wrong. Interesting interview. Saturated fat and cholesterol just happen to be, we’ve had this on other shows, the two fats that really stabilize the cell membrane, and more importantly, not just some memory but the hormone receptors that sit on the cell membrane.

When we look at what’s going wrong, why people don’t feel well hormonally, thyroid, diabetes, all the top conditions. Let’s face it, these are hormone issues. Again, it’s not the matter of a lack of hormones as much as it is the receptor to the hormone on the cell. Hormones can’t get their message in the cell, so you don’t feel well. Saturated fat and cholesterol stabilize those receptors. They ride on a lipid raft. It’s a raft made of fat. Those fats are critical in stabilizing that. The key, as it turns out, to fixing these crazy conditions, these hormonal conditions, weight loss resistance, thyroid issues is these fats.

Then we can take it even further because everyone out there’s taking fish oil. Here’s another 180° concept. Everybody’s taking fish oil, and yet studies show that you can go into omega-3 dominance by taking too much fish oil. There’s other consequences to that. Where does the truth lie?  That’s the thing when it comes to fat, I believe we have more of a 180° truce, or 180° Solution concepts here than anywhere.

Warren:
You said that, true. What I was thinking, Dr. Pompa, just to tag onto that intro there is—okay, so there is an opposite with that. With good healthy fat, you reduce cellular inflammation. You restore the cell membrane. If you eat bad fat, you increase cellular inflammation, you increase cellular toxicity, you increase—or decrease cellular fluidity, which is the things of—good things going out of the cell—I mean, good things going into the cell, bad things coming out of the cell. With good fats, you increase cellular fluidity where good things can come in and bad things can come out so that, essentially, your cell is an enclosed container and its cooking fats and ATP for energy and doing its thing, and it has an exhaust. It’s getting smoky.

If the cell membrane can’t have a pipe that pops that toxins out, you’re going to get a sick cell. That leads to all kinds of nasty things, including cancer. Let’s hit into that topic. What are some of the bad fats and how can you make good fats bad. We talk about that in our Cellular Healing Diet System. We’ve sold thousands—well, actually, tens of thousands of copies of. We actually have a new website. If I can remember it by the end of the show, we can offer a free Cellular Healing Diet eBook program for free, and I can give that website out here later. I’m offering one of the—you have a diabetes summit coming up that you’re doing with Mark Sisson, Mike Adams, Susan Cohen, Furman. What’s his name?  Your buddy Furman is with you on this summit as well?

Dr. Pompa:
Yes Furman, what a good guy. He’s a super guy.

Warren:
He’s a pioneer. Also, you can go to our website DrPompa.com, and register for that summit. Anyway, as part of that summit, they’re going to give away that free Cellular Healing Diet eBook. I can offer that to our listeners as well, not just for being on the summit.

Let’s go into some of those facts. One of the things that would tag into what we’ve been talking about over the last several weeks is we don’t really think about this, and we’ve never talked about it, as a matter of fact, is that when you’re using these bad fats like canola oil and, even worse, corn oil, not only is it bad for the cell membrane from a rancid, nasty indigestible, unrecognizable fat for the cell, massively inflammatory. Now I add the component of GMOs and pesticides to that product. Now you not only have—you have a super toxin that’s introducing in your body. I like to call that a super toxin, Dr. Pompa. Can we call it that?  It’s going to be nasty.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. No, I like that. I think it’s Page 19 or something in the book. It may be different in the ebook, so I apologize for that. There is a page in the book that Warren mentioned that goes over all the good fats. Hold on. Let me back up. The danger is making a good fat bad. We take something like olive oil. We start heating it above a certain temperature, 300° F, 400° F; it depends on the olive oil. Than all of a sudden, we’ve made a good fat bad. Now it’s rancid. It might as well be hydrolyzed. It might as well be hydrogenated. We change the structure. Now it becomes inflammatory. These fats, they make their way into the cell membrane. We already said how important that is.

They make their way—they drive inflammation. Now, it’s driving hormone problems because it’s wanting the function of the receptor. You’re right. R1 is to remove the source. These bad fats are the source. It’s what a lot of people are making these good fats bad. Now the nice thing about saturated fat and cholesterol, they’re very stable. It’s a saturated fat. Now, the polyunsaturated fats, we’re not going to get into the science of it, but it’s all about how many hydrogen—or double bonds it has. Whether they call is saturated or poly. These things are very fragile. By the way, fish oil is a polyunsaturated fat, so what does that tell you?  It’s a good fat. Let me say that. I’m not against fish oil, but I like fish oil when it’s in fish.

When you pull away from these other antioxidants and fats that are naturally in the fish, now we have something that can go rancid and very, very bad, very quickly. Even as it sits in your cupboard or your refrigerator, it can go bad. We have to be careful pulling these very fragile polyunsaturated fats away because they go rancid very easy. Here’s another one: vegetable oils are polyunsaturated fat. I’m all for vegetable oil, love it, very healthy when it’s in vegetables. However, when we put it in a bottle and just in the processing alone, it is a nasty, nasty, nasty oil that drives inflammation, aka, canola oil. Go down the list. Most of the time it just says vegetable oil. Of course we know partially hydrogenated vegetable oils, they’re even worse, right?

Warren:
Yeah, they’re pretty much not on the market.

Dr. Pompa:
They all drive inflammation. Vegetable oils turn everything that we eat, and I’ll make it even worse, Warren. Corn oil is a vegetable oil. Soybean oil, guess what we have there?  Now we have—that’s the super—what you said, the super tox. They’re GMOs. They contain glyphosate, which is the chemical we’ve done shows on. Read the article. It’s not just gluten—read the article. That’s so important. These fats drive massive problems in your gut, in your cell membrane, hormone problems. You’ve got to get rid of those. You’ve got to get rid of these fats. Don’t make these bad fats—I’m going to have to maybe find a plug here. Don’t make these good fats bad.

In there, in the book, it talks about which fats can take heat and which ones can’t. This is very important. I’m going to say something—probably it’ll seem a little weird and opposite, but it’s not. Refined oils are better to cook with than non-refined oils. Wait that seems a little more unhealthy. No, all refined means is they strain it. They put it through a straining capacity and they take out all the really good stuff, actually, the phenyls and the things that are really good for our health. They filter those out, but it’s those things that are so good, turn rancid. The refined are actually better to cook with and eat.

Warren:
Yeah because they don’t—do you need to get a plug? I can talk for a minute on that, Dr. Pompa, if you can go get that. There’s two concepts here. This is one topic that I’ve been with you on for 10 years now, at least, when we discussed the area of bad fats. I actually helped you write portions of that book over the years and researched all of this. One of the neat things that you see is a 180° Solution concept with fish oil is.  If you talk to Frankie Vaughn, what was his name?  If we were talking to Frankie Vaughn, he would say, “But also, I’m taking a fish oil.”

Getting back to that refining process, it could turn a good fat bad even in the refining process. I don’t want to throw confusion out there, but we’ll get into that in a bit. Certain oils can take the heat in the refining process or in the filtration process and not turn bad. When it comes to fish oils, they’re not all created equal. How they were processed—you can take a very delicate—fish oil is very delicate. It’s very destabilized very quickly and turn bad if it’s not processed correctly, if you buy the Costco fish oils and fish oils from Walmart.

There’s been this New York—there’s that new article that’s going all over Facebook and on the internet about how all of these Walmart brands—stuff even at a GNC are—the products aren’t what they say they are. They’re supposed to contain an herb and all it contains is rice powder. There’s that side of it. That’s that world. If you’re not buying fish oils off a professional line such as Systemic Formulas, Pure, some of these great companies that source their stuff. It’s twice as expensive, but it’s not going to make you sick, so it’s a 180° Solution concept where if you buy—you think you’re taking a fish oil that’s good for your health, but really it’s irritating and causing cellular inflammation. That’s huge.

Then when it comes to the vegetable oils, things like sunflower oil, you find out—I don’t know what the exact name of it that you do, Dr. Pompa, like the refined—not refined—sunflower oil?  There’s a word for that. That’s a very stable oil that is great for cooking. Grapeseed oil is another one that’s good for cooking. It can take the refining process and when you’re cooking it, it’s not smoking, it can take higher heat, and then those things that are filtered out, as Dr. Pompa mentioned, aren’t going to cause, during the heating process, that oil to become bad. That’s a 180° concept that I wanted to share with you guys.

Still today, individuals in this world—and not many of you watching this, but this isn’t just for a health nuts. This is for the world to bring these real answers to. They think that the non-natural butters that are made of vegetable oil, butters. They feel that it’s better. We’ve talked about that two shows, I believe, with David’s grandmother who is 91 years old who only eats the tub of butter. She’s still from that generation, my parents’ generation. They’re the cholesterol generation. They’re the ones that are still eating butter, I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter and think that that’s healthy. Then you also go into their cabinet. I’ve been to some of the—and stayed at condos of friends and I’d look in their cupboard because I’m a cupboard snoop. Not only do I see medications, I also see fish oils. I also see I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter spray in the refrigerator. I can see I Can’t Believe It’s Not Butter-type spreads. It’s pretty maddening.

I am doing this show live by myself right now. Dr. Pompa is getting his battery charged, so he’ll be on in a few minutes. Let’s look at some other things, some good fats. Let me pull up some of my good fats that we discussed. We talked a little bit about bad fats that you want to avoid. Let’s talk about some of the good fats. I know we’ve discussed them before in the past, but we’re releasing a new article on this. Meredith has been working with Dr. Pompa researching all these different fats, and even adding some things that may or may not even be in the Cellular Healing Diet book that we’re going to add in the future.

Obviously, coconut oil, an amazing good fat. It has medium chain triglycerides in it, which is very great for fat metabolism and fat burning. That’s the MCT oil, medium chain triglycerides. There’s actually an oil extracted from coconut oil and/or palm oil that I take every morning. I put it into my coffee. I buy the stuff out of my store because it comes in a glass container and its base is coconut oil, not palm oil when they do the extraction of the MCT. The good thing about that is it doesn’t upset your stomach. The palm oil one mix. There’s MCT oil. I’m just going through some good fats, Dr. Pompa.

Dr. Pompa:
I’m back.

Warren:Okay, good. Obviously grass-fed butter, the olive oil, all amazing fats for your body. Then we have the fermented cod liver oil and butter oil that we also carry at our store that’s super—instead of super toxic, it’s super healthy.

Dr. Pompa:
Can I say something? One of the things that I always do with clients is I teach them how to rotate fats. I always short them out on this stuff, because I want to target and bring them back to a normal ratio of omega-3 and omega-6. Some of the clients that I get, they’re heavy on the fish oils. They’ve been taking omega-3. We want to bring them back. Then the average person that’s not concerned about their health, they’re way over here in the omega-6 dominance. They’re eating grain—can you all hear me?  It’s a little noisy in here, but I had to plug in. Then we have omega-6 because of the grain-fed meats and all the different things. All the corn-fed meat, I should say, and also all the other crap they’re eating.

Warren:
That’s a good point there. Going back to glyphosate discussion with corn. We’re able to eat grain-fed meat—the other reason to stay away from grain-fed now, or corn-fed, is that the glyphosate and the bio concentration of glyphosate and GMOs and that meat and what’s it’s doing at this point or level. Wow. You have an even bigger reason not to eat that stuff.

Dr. Pompa:
That stuff's bad, right? It throws you out of a mega balance. Regardless of which way they are, this way or that way, we put them on Vista, and it's driving the ratio that's driving the cell membrane. I have to say, when you see me draw the circles, when you see all the circles I draw, I can't help but draw circles, but it's this membrane that really is important. I just want to draw a circle. This is that hypothyroid and the hormone receptors. These fats, when this gets inflamed, now you can't get the bad stuff out of the cell, and this cell becomes very toxic. You can't get the good stuff in, either This is what's really key here.

As we inflame that membrane, guess what? We lose that detoxability. One of the things that we have to do that's really important is we have to fix the membrane in order to even detox the cell. It's one of the 5R's, right? It's R2, and it's important in detox. It's important in hormones. It's important in even changing the DNA. We know that when this membrane's inflamed, you start triggering all your bad genes.

That's three huge things. If you're out there and can't get your health back, this could be the reason right here. You can't do detoxification without fixing that membrane. Every one of the 5R's are important in detoxification. That's true cellular detox. You've got to fix the cell to get well and detox.

It's very, very important that we get into that ratio. I start them on Vista, and then one, I like to rotate all those fats in that you mentioned. There's benefit; the CVO oil, the extracted butter oils. These are all really different fats but very important fats with different purposes. I like to teach people to rotate these fats; Vista for a while, CVO oil for a while, extracted butter oil. Really, there's magic in all of those fats.

Warren:
Yeah, I took my CVO this morning, which is a systemic product. I took that this morning. I also took some methalation stuff because you told me to do that, plus some other things that I'm taking. This afternoon, I'll have a big – instead of eating, I probably won't eat until 2 o'clock.

Yesterday, I didn't eat at all, Dr. Pompa, until dinner, and I worked out just for that hormone following some of the stuff we've been learning together on this show. I do what Dr. Pompa says; it always works out. That's how I got my life back. He told me, “Do what I tell you to do to get your life back.” I still follow that advice today. I'll do the X-Factor butter oil this afternoon for some more fats, and I did MCT in my coffee this morning. I’m a fatty. I’m getting along probably 8% body fat.

Dr. Pompa:
I think you bring up anther good fat there. What is MCT oil? Well, coconut oil has something in it called medium chain triglycerides, MCT oil. These are fast burners. People that have trouble digesting fat, they bypass that. They absorb right through your intestines. Be careful; you take too much at once, you can get the bloat. It's happened to me. You just don't absorb it fast enough, and it makes its way down too far. It will create diarrhea, I promise you.

MCT oil or coconut oil are these medium chain triglycerides that actually help you burn fat. It really makes you a more efficient fat burner. Years ago, they were giving these—because they're saturated fats, these medium chain triglycerides, these saturated fats, they were giving coconut oil to their cows, and they thought they were going to get their cows to gain weight. The opposite happened. The cows actually lost weight because of the medium chain triglycerides that were in with these saturated fats.

Warren:
That's hilarious.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, exactly.

Warren:
The literature says fat makes you fat, not the literature, but the world says, they say fat makes you fat, so they give it to cows. Of course, that doesn't work on humans because that wasn't a proper subject.

Dr. Pompa:
Here's a product like coconut oil, has saturated fat in these medium chain triglycerides, basically pure fat. Surely this will make them fat. No, it didn't. They lost weight.

Warren:
Funny.

Dr. Pompa:
They're good for the thyroid. Some people even rub coconut oil right on the thyroid, or MCT oil, and it helps. Obviously, again, it's not the one fat. You want to rotate it in with some of these other fats. Look, high fat, at one point, is what heals the membrane. Some people can't break down fat, Warren. You have to give them things like bile salts or ox bile salts at about 250 to 500mg with every fatty meal, or things like lipase or digestive enzyme that has lipase and other types of enzymes that break fats down.

Warren:
Yeah, lipase is key. It helps me when I was really sick. I had to take lipase. I couldn't break down fats, and we know we need fats for my cells to heal. The fat made me sick, so I took it with lipase and ox bile. I think we carry that. I don't know what company that's from, but I used to take it in the lipase, and it made all the difference.

Dr. Pompa:
It does. In some people, you have to—it's diet variation. You can't start them on the fats maybe until you get that liver, gallbladder purged out because they're just not able to release enough bile. When they do, the bile's filled with toxins. Utilizing that with our True Cellular Detox System where we're getting the cell up here to move the toxins out. They end up going to the liver, but people get bound up here. We got to get them out of the liver into the gut where we have the bnd going out of the body, the toxic biocomplex.

A lot of people who can't break down fat, they're stuck right here in the liver. You got to focus on that liver. Products like LS, Xeneplex is basically a coffee enema and a suppository, and that pushes the liver. Coffee enema can push the liver. We have a lot of different products that help push that bile, the toxin out, so then it makes it more easy to break down the fats.

A product called Glytamins is a suppository because sometimes we have to bypass the gut in order to get that liver moving. Listen, that's why coffee enemas – people with cancer and other things have used them for years. In itself, all it does is get the liver moving. It's just one walkway of many. That's why you have to use it within that system we call True Cellular Detox. You have to move it from the cell. You have to move it out of the body and really, it's that system that we use with everybody that works.

Warren:
I just did it over the last—

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, you just did it. If we're detoxing heavy metals, if we're detoxing biotoxins, mold, we do it within that system of moving the toxins from the cell to the liver to the gut out of the body, that system, and then we use specific chelators or detox products within that system. It works.

Warren:
I got a detox headache from it two days in a row. I overdid it. I did two Xeneplex, not one, because yeah, you can handle it, Warren. I was doing heavy metals. I was using our real chelators, DMSA, and during that, I was also doing the Glytamins with Xeneplex. I did it together, but of course, I made sure I took four of the Bind a half-hour before I did that according to our system, and I also did the infrared sauna that we use from—what is—I can't think of his name right now, our buddy that came up with the technology.

 

Dr. Pompa:
Let's just talk about that. This is my favorite subject. R1, if you don't remove the source, you never get well. If you still have silver fillings in your mouth out there, that's a problem. You're never going to get well. Also, toxins bio-accumulate in your deep tissue. That system that you just said you did is key. People think they're going to detox their heavy metals by getting in a sauna. Does it detox your heavy metals? Yeah, but it's one pathway. You have to use infared within the system that we describe.

Once again, here's the cell. Products like GCEL, and MoRS, and really all the 5R's, the whole cellular core works here in getting cell function moving, and it brings it out here. Then we have a specific chelator. We've just been calling it the cellular detox drops (CytoDetox) because that's what people call them, but it's a new chelator that's been really introduced in the last year that's exciting for us. A chelator hasn't been introduced really since the 1930's that worked, so we're excited about that.

Anyway, so we move the toxins out. We bring them to the liver right here. There's a little gallbladder right here. But here's the thing. It's like if they get stuck here, you're in trouble. You're going to develop symptoms. The Xeneplex and the Glytamins that you were using, that moves it from here, or a product like Ls by Systemic, and then we bring it to the gut where here's where bind works.

Bind sits down here in these intestines and catches it to move it out of the body so you don't re-absorb it back into the liver. This system works. Where does the infrared sauna work? Well, it's just opening up another detox pathway. That's all it does. We want to keep those pathways open to move it out of the skin. That's really important to have those pathways. Maybe we give it some kidney support over here. This system is what gets people well, and you were using DMSA, which is a true chelator that helps clear out around here and bring it through kidneys and into the gut.

It works. That's the system that we do. You have to—whatever detox you're doing, just like Warren did, you have to do it within that True Cellular Detox System.

Warren:
Here's my visual. I’m a visual guy, so I'm visualizing a little guy in a tractor pulling a little cart behind him like my grandfather used to—his is probably where this is coming from, going into the cell—picking up some toxins from using products that contain ingredients like GCEL has, the glutathione, the inositol cysteine, the things that drive detoxification at the cellular level. I’m a visual guy, so I'm visualizing a little guy in a tractor pulling a little cart behind him like my grandfather used to—his is probably where this is coming from, going into the cell—picking up some toxins from using products that contain ingredients like GCEL has, the glutathione, the inositol cysteine, the things that drive detoxification at the cellular level. That's what we mean by GCEL; it's the ingredients in there. Do drive up your body's natural detoxification.

That's the little truck, my grandfather driving his tractor going in there with his little cart, picking up the grass or whatever, which are the toxins. And he takes it down to the liver where it gets bound to bile. He throws it on the pile, which is this big, primordial, soup-looking, toxic fat. And it gets all bound up in the liver, and it's being processed and broken down, and it's doing its thing.

Then he picks it back up again. When you take something like Xeneplex—usually it's a toxic waste dump, essentially, but if you take the Xeneplex, it's going to dump. It's going to release that bile. Or if you eat a bunch of fats, it'll release that toxic bowel complex and down the drain it goes. But if we don't have something to catch it, then you're just going to re-absorb that in that intestine and it goes where when it comes through your intestine? That's where your nutrients flow. It goes right into your blood. If you don't have something to catch it, you cause that retoxification and inflammation. That's why I got a little bit of a headache, Dr. Pompa. I was detoxing. I didn't catch it all, but I caught a lot of it. Some of that re-circulation caused some inflammation and a little bit of a headache.

Dr. Pompa:
That's why you get the sauna going, you open up that pathway. You keep the liver moving so it doesn't back up there. You can see there's a lot of pitfalls. But it starts at the cell, and obviously we want to move it out of the body.

Warren:
My grandfather's tractor, that's where it starts.

Dr. Pompa:
Here's the thing; when you're dealing with things like heavy metals, Warren, they're so heavy; hence the word. Your body's detox pathways just can't handle them. That's why we have to utilize that system with a true chelator when you're dealing with heavy metals. You're not going to grab those with your body's detox pathways. That's why we use it with this hydrolyzed DMSA, something that really binds to the metals. If you try to do that, this system, and detox metals, infrared saunas without a true chelator, you're going to be in trouble. You have to utilize the true chelators. You have to know how to take them.

There's an article. Of course, I'll send it to everyone there right now if you're getting excited about detoxing metals. It's called “When a Detox Is Dangerous.” Read it; there's three parts (Part one, part two and part three). Use true chelators within that system and how to do it right. Lot of pitfalls, be very careful. But that system, True Cellular Detox, is the magic.

Warren:
And so for our listeners that've been waiting for that free ebook web address, I'm going to give that, but also if you go to DrPompa.com and type in the search engine—when Dr. Pompa says an article, “When Detox Is Dangerous,” go to DrPompa.com and then there's a search bar, and you type in, “When Detox Is Dangerous,” or you can go articles, and it'll—there's a drop-down there, right, Dr. Pompa, where they can go and look at all our articles? But if you just want to search them, that's the way to do it.

I'm actually going to use this tool, Dr. Pompa, to put in the picture of—you'll be able to see it here in a second. Just hang with me here, but I'm going to put up the sample text of the website here in a second. But the name of the website, for those listening, is freedietebook.com. That's an easy one to remember. It's a great URL. Glad we got it. Free Diet eBook. Did I say book? Sorry, freedietebook.com, and I'll put it up here in the text here in a minute for everyone to see it, as well, for those watching live and the replay.

Dr. Pompa:
Above your head, it says, “Imple Text.”

Warren:
I'm going to get rid of that. Now I'm going to put in—

Dr. Pompa:
Ah, there it is, sample text. Imple text is still floating, though.

Warren:
Watch this. There, freedietebook.com. I got stuff hanging all over my head right now. It's probably following me. Yeah, there it is.

Dr. Pompa:
You better be careful right there. Isn't it great how technology works?

Warren:
freedietebook.com, right over my eyes there. There you go. There it is.

Dr. Pompa:
Frankie Vaughn said there's two things that—there it is.

Warren:
I'm going to trash that. There we go; no more problems.

Dr. Pompa:
Anyways, Frankie Vaughn said last night there's two things that he just can't understand and freaked him out. It's the birth of a human and how we can send things via the internet. I was like, “Ah, I agree with all that.” I look at how you have these things floating around your head, going, “How does this happen?”

Warren:
I love Google Hangouts. You can do fun things and make people laugh and make people laugh. Frankie Vaughn, this one's for you; ‘freedietebook' floating over my head, probably confuse you.

Dr. Pompa:
I saw another—Dino Simco, and that's who introduced me to Frankie, and I haven't seen this guy in 30 years, all the way back in high school. It was quite a trip.

Warren:
He looked like he was straight out of Vegas, man. I saw a picture on Facebook.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it's funny, very funny. But anyways, it was good to see them. We better wrap this show up. It's getting more noisy in this lobby.

Warren:
I appreciate you taking the time, and it was valuable, valuable training, once again. I mean, it's simple. The 5R's are the road map, Dr. Pompa. We hit on them. We talk about them a lot in different ways, using different strategies within the 5R's to give people's lives back and to take real solutions to the world. So tell the Frankie Vaughns out there thank you for watching and listening to this podcast. If you haven't, find us on iTunes. Type in Cellular Healing TV and subscribe, give us a good rating so that we can get this message out there more. We want to be the top of the list.

And also Frankie Vaughn, to flip you out, I'm having a home birth, buddy, and I'm going to deliver that baby; at least, that's my heart, if my wife'll allow me to. But we're excited, Frankie Vaughn, to do a home birth, and I hope it freaks you out.

Dr. Pompa:
He'll send the pictures out via the internet.

Warren:
And then I'll send them out to the internet so that it can really mess with you. So thanks again, everyone. Have a great rest of your Friday, and have an amazing, healthy, and incredible weekend. God bless. Take care, guys. Thanks, Dr. P.

Transcript of Episode 52: Dementia, Memory Loss and Neurodegenerative Diseases

With Dr. Daniel Pompa, Warren Phillips and David Asarnow.

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Warren: Good morning, everybody. Cellular Healing TV, Episode 52. It’s amazing to see…

David: Hey, this is our year anniversary.

Warren: Anniversary year?

David: Yeah, 52 weeks.

Dr. Pompa: We did that at 50.

Warren: Fifty, that was—I guess that was a joke by David. You know, we’re supposed to be laughing at 52.

David: Maybe I’m losing my mind, and we’re forgetting about that.

Warren: Oh, that is good. True. That leads us into the topic of today. That’s really funny, David, really creative. You are on fire today. Dementia and memory loss, a very hot topic. Dr. Pompa is actually writing a really powerful article on this. He’s been working on it not for weeks but, literally, for months, doing the research, having a team helping him research. I mean, this is going to be a massive article that you need to look out for. But today, we’re going to tease some of those topics to educate our Cellular Healing TV family. So, Dr. Pompa, how did you get into this, and why is this really heavy on your heart? And let’s share some of the beginnings of this work that you’re doing on memory loss and dementia.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, I told you. Actually, when I wrote the article, for the first time I actually started telling my mom’s story, which, actually, even as I started it, something hit me. That I’ve told many of my father’s stories. I think mostly just because they’re really funny. My dad was the bricklayer, the Italian bricklayer, who really knew nothing about nutrition, but in the end, he seemed just to know everything. There’s a lot of funny stories there, so…

Warren: Like the bowling ball story. That was one of my favorites.

Dr. Pompa: I shared a lot of stories, but there a lot of stories that are specific to health. I mean, no, my dad really did figure it out. I mean, he did. He ate—my dad intermittent fasted before we even knew there was a word, right? I mean, he did. He ate these very small meals, and then, of course, dinner was his big meal. He liked to have a little Scotch with dinner. My mom was convinced he was an alcoholic, but, honestly, no, my dad really—being Italian, I remember sitting at the dinner table saying, “Dad, you’re Italian. Why don’t you eat pasta?” “I’d get fat.” He would always call potatoes and these starches, right? He’s like, “If I eat starch, I get fat.” I mean, he really did figure out his genetics and stayed thin.

Warren: Yeah, he was lean. He was a lean Italian.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. Yeah. And you know, funny too because my dad really doctored me as the Italian bricklayer. I would come home with gaping wounds, and he would, literally, just hold them together. Clean the wounds. I mean, I remember one time I was riding on the hill on my bike, and I let no hands go thinking I was being cool, and the handlebar went. I literally slid.

Warren: We’ve all been there.

Dr. Pompa: I literally slid what I thought was 100 yards, but I’m sure it was 20 feet. But even then, I came home. I mean, my whole side was opened up. I thought surely I was going to the hospital. I mean, I’m telling you. It was two months that he bandaged those wounds and re-bandaged those wounds. I mean, it was so deep. I would come home—because I would build a lot. I would take his hammers and nails—my son’s in a room here, and I wish he could hear that. Anyways, then I would go down into the woods and make tree houses. So I was always coming up. I would whack…

Warren: I just did remember something though.

David: What did you remember, Warren?

Warren: I remembered. I don’t have memory loss. There is something to celebrate today. Not the 52nd show. The 52nd? Oh, my gosh.

David: The 52nd show.

Warren: The 52nd show, oh, boy, not—but this is good. We did 10,000 downloads on iTunes, the Cellular Healing TV episode. So that happened last night. So I was going to put that on as a tease.

David: That is awesome. That is awesome.

Warren: Ten thousand people, different people, now have downloaded this life-changing information, which is just simple. A Google Hangout, three guys, two dogs, and a couple cats, and we’re making a difference.

David: You can’t forget. It’s actually three cats.

Warren: Three cats. -Technical Issues-

Warren: I know this topic, dementia and memory loss, I mean, it is one of those things that really rips into the heartstrings of so many people, and I think that’s where Dr. Pompa’s actually going when he’s talking about his dad.

David: You know what’s interesting? We actually stopped in, and saw my grandmother who’s 92 years old when we were just down in Tampa. And it’s a really interesting topic because Dr. Pompa asked her, “What’s the number one fear of the people who are living in your Senior Living Center?” And they said, “The number one fear is losing their mind.”

Warren: Right, because…

David: It’s not dying because they all know that they’re—she’s even said it. She’s like, “Death is all around me.” It’s really—she’s never experienced anything like this because all of sudden someone’s not there, but their number one fear—I mean, they all know—it’s like, “Well, I’m 92. I’m eventually going to go.” But her number one fear is losing her faculties and her words.

Warren: Yeah, I mean, it’s—and it’s the fear that your loved ones, that just can’t communicate with you, you’re just—you lose them, and you no longer have your mom. But she’s there in a shell, but you can’t communicate with her or your father. And it really hurts families, and unfortunately, it forces them into…

David: Yeah, just log back in.

Warren: Yeah, and forces them back into homes. Into care homes, elderly care homes, and no one wants to be there.

David: So everyone, we’re live on—and I’ll continue on the conversation that—while Warren shares the link, is—I mean, for anyone who’s had to care for a loved one, or even experienced friends and their family that are going through it, it just pulls at everyone’s heartstrings when someone that you’ve known your entire life or someone that you just know, and you just see them not remembering things, it’s scary. And one of the things that, as soon as Dr. Pompa comes back on, we’re going to talk about is why—some of the reasons why this happens and some of the things that we can do to start protecting ourselves, making sure we’re doing the right things. And the interesting thing is a lot of the things that we’ve talked about from week one do help us. So that when you think about—and obviously, I’m not a doctor. I just play one on Cellular Healing TV. But when we think about today’s diets that people are going through, the low-fat, all the carbs, the glyphosate. All the things that we’re –the toxins that we’re exposed to every day, they accumulate up in our brain, and we wonder why people are having thesse challenges at a younger and younger age. It’s quite scary. Wouldn’t you agree, Warren?

Warren: Yeah, I mean, it’s—you don’t get dementia. Dementia didn’t exist 30 years ago. It was very rare that something like that would happen, and usually it’s probably from a head trauma or something that happened that way. But if you look at all the dementia studies, Alzheimer’s studies, when—this is how Dr. Pompa and I got—one of the reasons we got on the 4:1 ratio oil. Everyone was pushing Omega-3’s, Omega-3’s, Omega-3’s, but when you look at the science, what’s in nature? Grass-fed meat, free-range eggs, all the natural ratio is 4:1, Omega-6 to an Omega-3. You become Omega-6 dominant by eating grass-fed meats and grain-fed animals. Grain-fed meats give a higher Omega-6, like 40:1, but really, it should be 4:1. And then when you did nothing else with the dementia or an Alzheimer’s individual, and you just wanted to…

Dr. Pompa: Hey, I’m back. I’m back.

Warren: Good. I’ll finish my 30 second point. Is that you put these people doing nothing else, a 4:1 ratio oil, and their Apgar scores is how they score people. It’s like a sheet, whether how far gone you are as far as Alzheimer’s, and you see these scores massively improve, cognitive function, memory, being able to communicate more clearly. So that’s one of the 5R’s. Heal the cell membrane. You’re back Dan. What’s wrong? -Technical Issues-

Warren: Okay, so some of our initial research on this topic, when we’re looking how to get really sick people well, came down to healing the brain, restoring the brain, and of course, mercury, another major—one of the causes, R1, of causing memory loss, dementia, because of what it does at the neurological level in the brain. So a lot of these things, pituitary hormone dysfunction, so mercury is one of the top causes. They always say aluminum—you know the big craze back in the 90's. Well, don’t use deodorant with aluminum in it or using tinfoil because what happens is that causes dementia. There was a study written on that. Okay, true. It does. Aluminum does cause dementia. However, mercury, major, massive, ten times the cause of Alzheimer’s, dementia, memory loss, than even aluminum, although, that’s one of the causes. So a lot of that research came out in the early 2000's, late in the 90's, and into the 2000's, early 2000's. And so when we were researching online, these are some of the things that we would find. And in that process, obviously, we looked into it more, and then even before the grass-fed movement came—and it’s here, grass-fed. I went to a restaurant last night for my wife’s and I’s Valentines early because we planned ahead so we didn’t have to fight the rush, and people were looking at us to get out of our seats. So we had a beautiful two and a half hour dinner, and everything’s grass-fed. The fats that they cook with were fats that your body can recognize. They get it. So it is mainstream more so now than it was even in the late 90's and early 2000's. So Dr. Pompa, you’re volume is on. You just don’t have video, right?

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, let’s see if that works.

Warren: Yeah, praise God. That’s good. Praise God, Dr. Pompa.

Dr. Pompa: All right, well, let’s…

David: Dr. Pompa.

Warren: From Africa. Praise God. You’re back with us.

Dr. Pompa: So anyways, I don’t know where I dropped you there, but…

David: And you heard some of the conversations. You were actually talking about your grandmother. When you dropped off, I shared a little story about my grandmother that, actually, you got to meet this past week who’s 92.

Dr. Pompa: Oh, yeah. She was…

Warren: So you were transitioning into your—from your dad to your mom.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, exactly, so my dad with all these funny stories but I really felt bad because I really haven’t written about my mom, and she really is the one who encouraged me most of my life. So it really shocked me that I never wrote about her, but I think I learned why. It was very emotional watching my mom die over—the ten years were horrible. Watching her be in a nursing home. She lost her memory, post-stroke dementia, and it was absolutely horrendous. So I had a lot of guilt over it. When I actually wrote the article in that section, I wept hard. It was very hard to go on. As a matter of fact, I stopped writing the article at that point, and it was hard to tell the story. So when you see the article come out, you’ll get to see that amazing—it’s a story about an amazing woman who—I was going to say raised an amazing kid. No, not quite, maybe turning into an amazing adult? We’ll go with that. That sounds a little safer as an amazing kid.

Warren: I’d say you’re an amazing adult.

Dr. Pompa: Okay, all right. So we’ll go with that.

Warren: Didn’t know you as a kid. I know you punched a few people I hear, I guess.

Dr. Pompa: I still did desire to change lives. That’s for sure. But anyways, it is an emotional topic for me because watching that, it was really heart-wrenching. It was really sad. I said in the article, the days I would go in there she was actually more with it, and it felt like she did recognize me because, obviously, she didn’t recognize people anymore. It would rip me apart, so very hard. But anyway, so there’s something in this topic. It’s a very emotional topic for, I would say, most people. And the reason why is it’s once—if you lose a loved one, that’s one thing. But to lose a loved one where they’re still there but not there, I’m telling you, it’s very, very difficult. And the number one fear of people over the age of 60 is memory loss. That’s very common. I mean, that’s the thing—and you know, David, when we were discussing this with your 92-year-old grandmother, she said, “That was”—remember David? You probably don’t remember that, but she said, “Everybody here fears, not death, losing their memory.” Do you remember that? And I said I was…

David: Yeah, she’s—losing their faculties.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, but…

Warren: He actually did remember.

David: I actually brought it up while you were offline.

Dr. Pompa: Okay. I think the bad part was that…

Warren: Your memory is great.

Dr. Pompa: Is once they lose their memory, they go to a different building. And I said, “Oh, my gosh. There must be a lot of jokes about that around here.” She’s like, “Not really, actually.”

David: You’re right. She’s like…

Warren: No one wants to go into that building.

David: You know what’s interesting? When we opened up her fridge, what does she have? She had sticks of butter, plenty of sticks of butter in there. It was all high-fat if you noticed in her fridge.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah.

David: Even as growing up, when we had—we used to have steak—she loved steak. She would always say, “Make sure you eat the fat. That’s the best part.”

Warren: Yeah, that’s what my—that’s how—what my dad was like and my grandparents, all in their 90’s. All died naturally in their sleep with full memory, beating me at cards, even my great-grandparents.

David: But look. That’s another thing.

Dr. Pompa: I kept trying to lead her a little bit on like, “Well, why not margarine?” I thought, she’s at that age where many of our parents fell into the margarine trap, this man-made butter that’s so much better. She wasn’t falling for it, David. No matter what, she wasn’t taking it. She did say one thing that was hilariously funny, I thought, and gave us an idea for something we’re developing. She said what most say at that age, or even…

David: Yeah, what “they” say.

Dr. Pompa: And we were talking about—she said, “Yeah,”—we were talking about blood pressure, I believe, and she said, “Yeah, but “they” say that it’s better to have blood pressure when you’re older.” Which, actually, I agree, right?

David: Higher blood pressure.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, I mean, at that age, right, they’re typically more vibrant, right? So anyways, but “they” say, and I turned to you and Phil, and I said, “Who is they?” And I think we need to define “they” because typically “they” is wrong. This time, “they” might’ve been a little bit right, but it’s funny because when we look at our 180’s, right, the 180 degree opposite, right, butter’s bad, margarine’s good. I mean, they said that, right? Our parents say, “Yeah, but they say this is better.” The question really is, who is “they?” I think that if we find “they,” then I think that we can get to the bottom of some of these things that we’re taught that aren’t right. So we’re going to have some fun with that. But anyways, let me give them some information. You all have been listening to us chat and me trying to figure out the internet, which is never good. So before I get cutoff again, I want to make sure some really good points that I think will help so many of you listening. Often times this starts with brain fog. I mean, people just like, “Where’s my keys?” And they’re looking for their keys. Unless we have the ADD-ers like Warren and half of my family, then that’s normal. So I don’t want to just say losing your keys is not a normal thing.

David: How many times did I lose my keys in the past week? [Inaudible] David: I’ve got to tell you this. The time I’ve been home, I got out of that hotel environment and what we experienced down there, my brains back.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, David, you were getting hit harder with the mold hits than I was. I mean, those—I’ll tell you what. I don’t know if I could live in Florida just because there’s so much mold in those age facts, and we did a past show on mold. But it is absolutely horrendous. Your grandmother’s place, I mean, it’s—well, not her where she is but the main building. Oh, my god. But anyways, another topic for another day. Don’t get Warren and I down that road. You won’t pull us back at all.

Warren: With the key thing, I left my keys in Florida. So I got home, at the airport, and didn’t have my keys, just saying. And David lost our van keys three times at the hotel.

David: Four, four.

Warren: Four times. I mean, point well taken.

Dr. Pompa: So I’m actually talking to two ADD-ers here. That’s not a memory problem. That’s a different story. But when we’re talking about it, how about when you start—you’re going, “How do I get home again?” or you can’t negotiate your home or—when it starts to get worse, obviously, you can’t remember faces often times and people—things that you would be able to do. Add numbers in your head, you can’t do. I mean, these are the early stages when you have some of that cognitive decline, but it’s starting earlier and earlier. You all might not know this, but this is the fastest growing disease in the world right now. Did you know that?

Warren: That’s bad. That’s bad.

Dr. Pompa: Dementia, fastest growing. I mean, it’s now moved into the third leading cause of death in the United States. And by the way, there’s nothing that medicine offers that’s even working for symptom relief, right? I mean, heart attacks, we can do certain things, and open up the symptoms. We can give different medications, and at least take away symptoms sometimes. Not that it adds a day onto your life. Not that it necessarily does anything for your health, but hey, you can live—you can take a pain pill, and get rid of pain, right? But with this, there’s nothing. And it’s the scariest. The number one searched topic for people over the age of 60, memory loss, big fear. Well, here’s one of the other things I’ve found. I have been doing for years a certain set of therapies, if you will, things that I do with my clients. It’s never just one thing. You hear me talk about the 4:1 ratio oil. You all went into the fat conversation when I was trying to figure out the internet thing. We talk about these individual things, but we never—and if you just read last week’s article, I talked about skinning. That’s something I do. But I talked about high-intensity exercise, and how that affects your brain. You’ve heard me talk about intermittent fasting. I do it daily. How that not only affects the brain, but re-synapses the brain because of the growth hormone rises. Well, all these things work for the brain. The key is putting them together. When you look at the studies, they were always studying just one thing. And I can tell you this, for those listening. One thing never works. Not even the one things that I just mentioned but when you put them together, like a multi-therapeutic approach, then magic happens. So I found a study that actually did that. The irony of this study that was sent to me is that it does—it looked at most of the things that said to actually work, and they made the point that doing one of them isn’t the key. The key was doing them all together. Now, they didn’t call it a multi-therapeutic approach, but they said, “Look, when you do all of these things,” and that’s what we did in the study, “the results were spectacular.” They took ten people. Nine out of the ten got amazing, amazing results. And by the way, six of the ten were not able to work anymore. That’s how bad their dementia was. So within three months, on a multi-therapeutic type of protocol, these people got their lives back. And I have seen this again and again. As a matter of fact, I want to bring on a guest of one of these that—Warren, he worked in a dry cleaners. As a matter of fact, he owned a dry cleaners. And, of course, he ended up getting diagnosed with Parkinson’s and, obviously, memory issues, things like that. His family pointed it out, of course, before him. He was in business with his brother, a really horrific story but with a really great ending. But the point is this. So when we put these therapies together, when we put in these fats that most people were saying are bad together in a 4:1 ratio with intermittent fasting—and by the way, this gentleman did all of these things, with high-intensity training, which he started, and we put them in with a low-carb diet. It put them into ketosis, right? How many shows have we done on ketosis? Because that makes—it heals the brain. So when we put these things together—and obviously, there’s certain nutrients, nutrients that are in MoRS, EPIC, obviously, VISTA—and matter of fact, in this study, they use all of these same nutrients, with the same diet, with the same—I mean, everything that we do, and they got these types of results, the types of results that I see. It was kind of fun, I thought, because it’s one thing that what I do, but then seeing someone put this together in a study, I thought it was absolutely amazing. So that’s the approach. It works. Now if we dissected these slower individually—I’ll let you all ask me the questions there.

Warren: Well, one thing I wanted to bring it up, and it was shocking statement, is that dementia is the number three killer in America. So heart disease, number one, I would imagine, and then cancer. I don’t keep up on the statistics, but how does dementia—one, that’s a crazy stat to me. Never heard that until you spoke that, didn’t see it on Facebook. Everyone knows how much I love Facebook, and I hang out there.

David: We want to hear it again, Warren. I want to hear how much you love it.

Warren: I love it. It’s a good one. I’m not going to go there. But, Dr. Pompa, how does dementia actually—it’s just the brain dies, or what happens?

Dr. Pompa: Literally, when you look at a brain on a scan, MRI, the brain literally starts shriveling. I mean, you’re losing synapses. They’re falling off, if you will. I mean, and by the way, that’s what we see when we heal. When the healing occurs, the brain starts re-synapsing. So when you look at this multi-therapeutic approach, you need the building blocks, right? So there’s certain nutrients that we know fall off. I mean, certain things like folates and certain types of B12, obviously, certain fats. These are building blocks. These are all necessary to rewire. But then, you have certain things that you have to really increase to get the healing going, and growth hormones seems to be the big one. So when we look at high-intensity training, we know that’s the one that raises growth hormones. Not just endurance training, right? It’s very specific. Burst training works to rewire the brain. I pointed that out in the article last week. Now, when you put—and this is interesting because I tipped my hat a little bit in that article. Because I said when you put these two things together, high-intensity burst training with intermittent fasting daily—I explain that all in the article, so we don’t have to get into here. Go back and read last week’s article. And you put those two things together; the growth hormone spike is extremely high. Now we talked about it there. Mostly in the fact that it really kicks in fat burning, and you can really burn a lot of fat in so many hours after you do this. But what we get is brain healing, re-synapsing. I did mention that in the video that I did. So we get a rewiring of the brain. Now imagine putting in all of these other components to it. Getting into ketosis. I’ve written a lot of articles about ketosis. I call it Advance Cellular Healing Diet because the brain loves ketones for a couple reasons. They burn clean. It’s like I always say that fat burns cleaner than sugar. So think about sugar as the log burning in a fire. There’s a lot of smoke, right, or maybe a piece of coal, even worse. Now think of natural gas on your stove. Well, that’s like fats, and more importantly, ketones. They burn so clean that they—it really is not giving your cells anything to have to cleanup because that energy is burned in the cell. So the bottom line is is that it reverses a lot of this nasty brain inflammation and degeneration because it burns so clean. And also, it helps heal the membrane because it burns so clean, which is the key to fixing the brain. So, the bottom line is this, you put these things together and magic happens. We’ve heard all of the benefits about coconut oil, these medium change triglycerides that we utilize in ketosis, because they cross into the brain. They’re used by the brain. Again, it’s not just one of these things, and everybody’s trying to just do one thing. Everyone’s taking their Ginkgo Biloba. Good luck with that. But when you put some of these herbs together with the nutrients, and the fats, and the exercise, that’s where the magic happens. So this article is going to be groundbreaking, I think, because it’s really backed by studies. But once again, nobody’s talking about this, but this is the key. Who’s putting it together? Nobody, but it works.

Warren: Yeah, it’s incredible. And again people just don’t know the truth. They don’t know the truth, and they need to hear the truth because there’s so many lives that can be transformed. Again, it comes down to folks not—oh, is Dan gone?

David: No.

Warren: All right then. Folks just don’t know the truth, and they sit there, and they suffer needlessly. And that’s a big part of our why Cellular Healing TV and why you have to share this. That there’s information out there if you’re looking for it that can transform lives. This isn’t hocus-pocus alternative care. I mean, this is the real deal from published journals and research. So it’s not Dr. Pompa’s opinion. It’s truth. And we need to share the truth on Cellular Healing TV because it’s needless suffering, needless dollars going into these—just wiping out their accounts, their legacy. Money that could be passed onto their children, yet, it’s being used for them to sit in an elderly care home and die over a period of ten years like your mom did.

Dr. Pompa: I just thought of something as you were talking there. We do this multi-therapeutic approach with most conditions that we see, right? I mean, Warren and I, we did it, getting well. And I just thought to myself, what makes it so unique with this, the brain? I think because nobody—it seems like with the brain, everyone just focuses on one thing, right? It seems with other conditions, people tell you, “Change your diet. Do this. Do that.” But with this, it’s not happening. And all this research about dementia and Alzheimer’s is really being diabetes of the brain. I’m preparing for a lecture to give to a group of doctors with this information. And I really narrowed it down to six main causes that the literature supports, right? And the interesting part of it was—is the multi-therapeutic approach is really the only way to really cover all six, but glucose, elevated glucose, which I call the 800 pound gorilla in the room that most people aren’t paying attention to, even people in natural health, right? I mean, oh, and they eat healthy, they eat healthy, and then really, when you examine their diet, it’s throwing glucose spikes and insulin spikes through the roof. Well, we know that elevated glucose burning out these receptors in the brain—basically, insulin resistance of the brain. Type II diabetes of the brain is a big plank. So again, putting someone in ketosis fixes that. Giving them the certain fats that fix the receptors to these hormones fixes that. But again, with this disease, I think it’s unique because everybody’s focused on one thing, and they only seem to do one thing, the alternative world as well. So I think that should be…

Warren: Right, right.

Dr. Pompa: I want to point something out. I want the conversation to go this way because I think that everyone needs to really understand that there is something really scary going on, and that’s why I think that this topic is something that we need to have often because we are—we were not exposed to something that all of our family, children, are exposed to today. And that’s why I believe this disease is going epidemic. For this reason, I think, honestly, in particular. Well, there’s two toxins that play a major role here. Number one, which we’ll get back to, is heavy metals, which Warren and I, obviously, were very affected by. But something else, another one that actually makes heavy metals worse. It makes it penetrate the brain deeper and has an enhancing effect on heavy metals, which we know are connected to a lot of these conditions, but it’s called glyphosate. Warren, we did an article. I think two articles back, right?

Warren: Yeah.

Dr. Pompa: You and I did a video on the article that I’d written about glyphosate. And it is the active ingredient in the number one herbicide/pesticide used on the planet, Roundup. And we, in this article, talked about now how they are using this. Not just to kill weeds, which in the past was damaging enough, but they’re using it to spray on every conventional grain before harvest. Why? Because it increases profitability, bottom line. It makes it easier to harvest. It has—it’s called desiccation. It shrivels up the grain enough that it harvests easier, and actually, kills the seed. And it causes it to almost ignite more seed, so the harvest becomes much easier. So you increase your harvest dramatically, and make it easier to harvest dramatically. Therefore, profits go up dramatically. So this is being done on every conventional seed, every conventional, obviously, grain. And it is in levels of exposure that we’ve never seen before in humans. It’s creating something that’s affecting the brain. Number one, our gut is known as the second brain. It’s putting holes in the gut, but it’s also killing off specific bacteria that you need to make neurotransmitters for your brain. So I just want people to understand the connection. That glyphosate is killing off bacteria that we need to make certain neurotransmitters. Dopamine, oh, what is Alzheimer’s? It’s a dopamine deficiency. You see what’s happening? Parkinson’s, it’s the same. So we know that it’s serotonin. These neuro, these chemicals that your brain needs to work in re-synapse are being killed off because of this chemical. This is a new problem. So if you and your families are listening, make them listen. If you’re eating conventional grains, you’re getting exposed to levels that just becomes impossible for the body to get rid of. It’s causing leaky gut, autoimmune, and obviously, leading to Parkinson’s, dementia, and really, any neurodegenerative disease. I believe you’ll get one of your genetic, but this is a trigger. Now, it also, I said, increases the heavy metals. It enhances their nasty affect, aluminum and mercury in studies, particularly. So it’s a double whammy. And those out there listening, if you have trouble sleeping, glyphosate, it—what happens is is the pineal gland, which sits outside of the blood brain barrier, is very, very sensitive to it. So now it starts affecting your melatonin, which is also linked to, again, Alzheimer’s, etc., and now you don’t sleep as well. So you see some of these conditions or some of these connections here. So this is a big topic.

Warren: Yeah, man. And it’s no wonder why it’s the number three cause of death in America right now. I mean, the brains are being shriveled just like the seed, unfortunately.

David: Yeah, it does it to the grain. It does it to the seed. It does it to everything else.

Warren: Yeah and no blame to the farmers. They’re being educated massively by Monsanto and the chemical companies. And they feel, well, why not? It increases the harvest. There’s more food. It’s good for them, and I hit my quota, and I get my bonus from the government, or however it’s driven, especially, some of these larger farms. And they’re just doing what they’re told. And in their hearts they’re doing the exactly right thing. It’s safe. They’ve been told a lie. Like margarine, safe. Not so much. That’s why we have to share this message. I think we should—any closing statement, Dr. Pompa, to leave? Wish we could see you because I love your heart and interaction. You can still hear it in your voice how passionate you are about this. Is there anything you’d want to say to end the show today?

Dr. Pompa: No. But I think that if some people google Dr. Stephanie Seneff. You’ve heard me mention her at the turn of the year. I said she should be regarded as the scientist of the year. Where she is the senior scientist at MIT and she’s done a lot of great research on the topic of glyphosate, and how it’s affecting the brain, and how it’s affecting leaky gut, autoimmune, Parkinson’s, you name it, all of our topics today. I think if you want some really good reading on that topic, educate yourself further, google that one. We’ll try to get her on this show one day. We’re going to try to get her at one of our seminars. She’s a real crusader, and someone I have a lot of respect for. But this is a really important topic, obviously. And I think that it’s a topic—David, remind us to do again with a different spin. Maybe talk more specifically. If I’m at home, we can lay out the products, right? That’s what people want. Let’s lay out the actual products. I’ll pull them up, and we’ll be more specific. Let’s do the same show with more specifics. But the article, like I said, is coming out. Be aware or watch on that, and read last week’s article, a little tip there. So that’s my final word.

David: Awesome. Thank you everyone.

Warren: All right, thanks David. Thanks Dr. Pompa. And I know that you’re meeting with some more scientists today and tomorrow, so good luck on that. And I hope for some blessings and more breakthroughs there as well. So thanks everyone for watching. See you next week. Cellular Healing TV, share the message. Remove the cause. Heal the cell. Get well. We’ll see you next week. Take care.

Transcript of Episode 51: How Skinning Boosts Memory

With Dr. Daniel Pompa and Warren Phillips.

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Warren:
Hello, everybody. Cellular Healing’s TV Episode 51, broadcasting from our West Palm Beach office, actually it’s one of our—Dr. David Asarnow liked to come, but David has a place down here. We are getting ready for a mastermind with some of our doctors, and we’re shooting live Cellular Healing TV Episode 51. A very interesting Cellular Healing TV this week because, Dr. Pompa, one of the things you like to do is you like to make exercise and life fun. You do things that juice you, obviously, so you actually have an emotional reason why you do it.

Think about a grandmother, why does she sacrifice for their grandchildren or their children? It’s because there’s an emotional “why” there, and Dr. Pompa loves that. Some people go to exercise, “I hate pushing iron,” well, Dr. Pompa says, “Well, sometimes I don’t like doing that either, but I’m going to find a fun way to look younger, feel amazing, get leaner and increase my brain function.” That was one of the things that you were kind of thrown out there on Facebook the other day. You got a lot of questions about this skinning topic. What is skinning? It doesn’t sound safe to me, Dr. Pompa. What is skinning and how did this launch you into this next article we’re releasing today on drpompa.com?

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it’s going to be a great article, no doubt. Many of you had interest. My wife had put pictures of us and she talked about skinning. We’re going skinning. Of course, the questions started rolling in. What is skinning? I had made other comments about how this is so good for your brain and so good for weight loss. As a matter of fact, I made comments such as, “Look, this combination of something that I’m doing with intermittent fasting and skinning is a combination that I believe.”

Here I am in my 50th year, and I really believe it. I made the statement in the article and announced publicly at other places, that I believe intermittent fasting, by itself, has been the greatest health concept that I have ever applied myself in my life, at least in my later years. It’s made the greatest impact. Honestly, it really has. One of the things I talk about in the article, I say, “Okay, I’m a little bit fanatical about staying as lean as I am now, as I was in my 20's,” at least my wife says I’m a little bit fanatical about that.

Warren:
You, more so than when you were 40.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, probably. Now what I said in the article, I have to admit that when I crossed over, somewhere in the mid-40’s, it got harder. I started getting, gosh, I want those abs. I want to look the way I did in my 20's. I tell you, you know that I practice what I preach. I ate perfect, I did everything perfect. I was still exercising, doing all the things I love to do, but yet I didn’t have…

Warren:
You had a little bit of a belly.

Dr. Pompa:
There you go, okay. By the way, we talk about genetics, I—he teases me all the time, I did a genetic thing and there’s four obesity genes. I have three of the four, okay? Just as proof that your genes do not make you sick or fat, if we trigger those genes, then we’re in trouble.

Warren:
180° Solution.

 Dr. Pompa:
ntermittent fasting, I started doing it, and I broke through. I did. It was—I got as lean, if not leaner than when I was in my 20's.

Warren:
And I got jealous.

Dr. Pompa:
He started jumping on board. My kids, actually, also, “Dad, what are you doing?” Literally, two of my kids starting intermittent fasting because Dad did. Of course, they’re 18 and 16, but, it really—it really was amazing. Here’s the thing. Really, this article coming out, and we’ll give you more of the details in there, too, but it’s the combination of intermittent fasting and this high intensity burst training that works magic. Both of them do something magical to our

Number one, they make you more hormone sensitive, which by the way is the key to feeling amazing and looking younger. It also drives up growth hormone, which has an amazing effect on your brain, obviously your skin. I said, even my athletic performance went through the roof. It’s this combination that I spoke a little bit about that’s—it’s absolutely amazing when you put intermittent fasting and burst training together. I want to share a little bit about that on this show how to do that, make some suggestions.

Warren:
And let us know what skinning is.

Dr. Pompa:
Oh, yes.

Warren:
Most of our audience is Dr. Pompa’s age. They’ve crossed into—that’s one reason they’re looking for health solutions. It’s the 50+. You are our main viewer. If you’re out there, of course, it’s okay to start thinking about brain function. You have to be doing these things on purpose. Life, when it comes at you, you have to start creating these good positive habits that create the outcome that you want in your life.

If you want to get leaner, you need to do the things and create a habit of getting leaner instead of an excuse not to do it. “I don’t like to work out,” well, just like we opened this show, do something fun, that you love, that applies to this bursting, or high intensity or hit training concept, so that you can spike the growth hormone. Get the look that you want, fix your brain, and move your life forward instead of backward so you can look like Dr. Pompa—leaner at 50 than he was 40.

Dr. Pompa:
Look, I’ve said it, weight loss is more about hormones even than what you eat. Intermittent fasting—we know males get a 2,000% increase in growth hormone, men on average 1,300. That’s just huge numbers. We know the same holds true for high intensity training as opposed to more of the endurance training, which I love, too, by the way. There is this benefit of this type of training.

You put these two things together and the irony is this—recently I’ve been doing a lot of research because I’m giving a lecture to some doctors about neuro-degenerative diseases, one of which is dementia, which is the number one concern of people over the age of 60. Losing memory—it starts with the keys, where the heck are my keys? Then it goes to not being able to have your daily tasks, and literally having to write everything down, into not being able to recognize faces the same, and people. This is how it evolves.

Warren:
It becomes very scary.

Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely.

Warren:
We have doctors that we train that they get into that because there’s a lot of fear around this losing your mind, it’s Alzheimer concept. We don’t live in fear, obviously because we’re educated and we do the things on a daily basis to make sure that that doesn’t happen. There’s a lot of fear around this because there’s a lot of suffering and pain with your loved ones—watching, well, that gets into another part of your story. I don’t want to go there.

Dr. Pompa:
You’ll see an article coming out, I’m writing about this. One of the things—the irony is looking at this, I found studies that show that it’s not just one therapy with cognitive decline and aging that works. It’s utilizing different therapies together. I named it a multi-therapeutic approach. It’s something that I’ve done for years with these types of cases. Knowing that it works when you put certain (inaudible) much greater results. This study proved it.

A lot of what I’m talking about here today was what was proven in the study, actually, to change the brain. When you put a couple things together, you get this synergy effect and the brain changes. Really, that was what I thought was amazing. Writing this article and what you’ll—not just this article talking about this topic, today, but I am releasing an article about the brain and how to change dementia. These things really affect the brain in a positive way. It’s studies showing that we have to raise the growth hormone. We have to do these things in combination to really get that effect. That excited me about this topic, because it really gives us the answer of why, when we intermittent fast, daily—again, I’ve written many articles about this, and even in this article I explain how to do that what daily intermittent fasting actually is.

New people are probably, “What is he talking about?” It’s in the article. You’re going to have to read it. Then burst training, high intensity training. Many of you might not know what that is. There’s also many articles and videos I’ve done on that. Again, I will discuss it in this article. Putting these two things together, you get this synergy rise in growth hormones. It’s almost like one brings you to here, put the two together, you go to here. My results have been spectacular, honestly. It’s something that is a 180° Solution concept. New people, what does that mean? When I say that, I say, “Go 180°, that’s where the truth lies,” here’s what I mean. If you watch the news, if you read newspapers, magazines, anything from the media.

Warren:
Even in a good personal development course, they’re going to tell you.

Dr. Pompa:
Right. Everything you’ve learned in your life. Do the opposite, and somehow you land on the truth every time. It’s my favorite concept. I teach my children this, and I always say, “3%er's are the people who go 180°.” If everyone’s making a right, make a left, somehow you land on the truth every time. This concept is a 180° Solution concept. I’m going to tell you some things here that are going to hit you where you probably don’t want to be hit, or it’s going to challenge you at a core belief that you’ve somehow developed in your life.

Warren:
From your parents, media.

Dr. Pompa:
Parents, media. In the article I talk about, I’m guilty. One of the things that I’ve always said is make sure you eat before and eat thirty minutes after you worked out. I said this for years because of my weight-lifting days. That’s what I was taught, and it makes a lot of sense.

Warren:
I was doing that because of you.

Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely. It’s may be some of that.

Warren:
You big jerk.

Dr. Pompa:
Yes. It makes a lot of sense on the surface. It really was something that I grew up with. When you understand how the body adapts to stress, especially high intensity stresses, and what it does to adapt to the stress with growth hormone, then you go, “Oh, that’s why eating—not eating—before you work out and not eating after is something that actually works unbelievable.” Let’s start there.

Warren:
Back to skinning.

Dr. Pompa:
Back to skinning. I’m not going to tell you what skinning is yet. You’re going to have to watch the video, maybe, because then I actually show you. Here’s where we have to start. I think that everybody watching this would agree with this, especially here in the United States. We have been taught that the most important meal and the biggest meal of the day should be what?

Warren:
Breakfast.

Dr. Pompa:
There it is. They all said it, too.

Warren:
Breakfast.

Dr. Pompa:
Well, first of all…

Warren:
Can we get breakfast?

Dr. Pompa:
No. New studies are showing.

Warren:
I’m doing breakfast.

Dr. Pompa:
You did some push-ups. New studies are showing it’s not the way it should be. As a matter of fact, if you take and you eat the night before and you fast and continue your fast through the morning and eat a very light lunch and then a bigger dinner, that’s intermittent fasting daily. That’s the definition. Going by 16-18 hours without eating the next meal—that is the definition of intermittent fasting daily.

Then when I do eat that meal, me, I typically do it around 1 or 2, sometimes even 3:00, I eat a very low-carb, high fat, protein combination. Very small meal, and then I eat my biggest meal at dinner. I know, it’s opposite of everything you’ve heard, but listen, push the science aside for a second. Every country in the world, except here in the United States, they promote a small breakfast, if breakfast at all. The first time I went to Europe, I said, “This is breakfast? Are you kidding me?” They’re running out the door eating a piece of fruit and that’s it. Nothing, and barely eating lunch because some of them sleep during that time.

Warren:
We got cereal now—all these kids. It’s huge.

Dr. Pompa:
I wonder where—who pushed the concept, right?

Warren:
General Mills.

Dr. Pompa:
Even when you go back in history—the Romans, the Greeks and other great cultures, they never ate breakfast. As a matter of fact, many of those cultures, they only ate one meal a day. They fed the slaves all day. They barely ate through the day, and then their big meal was dinner, right? The big meal was when they sit down, it was a two hour ordeal, it was a feast. That’s the way culture did it.

Warren:
And they were all riffed.

Dr. Pompa:
Exactly. Somehow this whole thing with the big breakfast caught on. I do want to say this, I want to make a caution. There are many people who are hormonally very disrupted. They don’t have the ability to utilize fat through the night for that energy to sleep. Because of that, the body will break its muscle down. Those people, when they get up, they get up very hungry in the morning. They get up and they need to eat, or they’ll continue eating muscle.

Warren:
Or they get up in the middle of the night and eat.

Dr. Pompa:
I’m not—that’s a topic for another day, for those people and how those people can be fixed and eventually end up as fat burners, where they can utilize this benefit. I will say this, this may not be for everybody because of that inability to burn fat through the night. They need some evolution, they need some things to actually occur first before they can start. I want to make that comment that it’s not for everyone, but for many of you watching—the majority—this is something that will be spectacular for you. Trust me, it really will.

It’s not eating in the morning. I don’t eat until later, but it’s putting in this exercise on an empty stomach, not eating 30 minutes after, waiting. I always say wait at least two hours before you eat. Studies do show that you’ll still get that growth hormone rise. Again, the longer—the more you do this, the longer you’ll be able to go. I know you’re going to want to chew someone’s arm off at first, “Oh, my God. I have to eat after this workout.” Listen…

Warren:
That’s what I tell my wife when I come home from work, because I don’t eat all day.

 Dr. Pompa:
Okay, I actually use that in the article. If you don’t come home until dinner time, you may chew a family member’s arm off, but remind them.

Warren:
My wife gets mad at me. “Just settle down, relax, don’t touch the food,” I’m starting to go in, she gets mad. She likes to prepare it.

Dr. Pompa:
I’ll tell you what I told them. Just remind your family that this is a survival adaptation response if you start chewing arms off. Eventually, you don’t do that.

Warren:
That’s my excuse now. It’s hormones, wife, my lovely wife Rebecca.

Dr. Pompa:
Like him, you will be hungry at first. You will. Honestly, you’re going to be dying, the more you do this, the more your body—the growth hormone goes up. It keeps going up after you get these spikes, eventually that helps you become a very, very efficient fat burner. Obviously, it heals the brain, because studies are showing these things. Not only that, but you’re getting this growth hormone spike, so you’re becoming a more efficient fat burner. You start noticing, “I’m not hungry anymore.” What’s your body doing? It’s feeding from your fat. It’s feeding from that to replenish the stored glucose that you burned up during the high intensity.

Warren:
I have a problem now, coming back to my wife. My growth hormone goes up, therefore, my sex drive’s going to go up, and now I’m in trouble. You got me in trouble twice today, Dr. Pompa.

Dr. Pompa:
That could be a problem. Or, she’s watching this and she’s at home—we’re not going to go there.

Warren:
But it’s a classic thing that everyone who’s married—just throw it out there. The reason I said that is because a lot of people are affected hormonally and they don’t have the sex drive that they should have. Growth hormone and testosterone, this type of exercise, this type of eating, drives both of those up, actually, correct?

Dr. Pompa:
Correct.

Warren:
That’s important, because life isn’t going to happen based on a pill or a powders or lotion or a potion. It becomes about those daily habits that work with your body to support what it’s naturally supposed to do.

We actually evolved or adapted over time to a certain type of—we have our belief systems, we live by them. Our habits dictate our belief system. We express our belief systems. I’m just trying to cover my bases here. Now I got confused.

Then we reverted, we went away because of marketing, just things like that as we evolved as a culture and we got away from how our bodies adapted. We get back into that, of course, we’re going to be more muscular, more lean, healthy, able to adapt to our environment in a much better way. Right now, we’re not adapting. The way we adapt is by storing fat because we’re killing ourselves.

Dr. Pompa:
It’s true. I said in the article—I didn’t want to get into the science, I wanted this to be just a quick article to be able to do this. I want you all to be able to experience what I experienced. In the article I said, “Look, why does it work so well?” The results are very obvious and how and why—obviously raising growth hormone. Really, it’s a stress adaptation mechanism. The body does amazing things to adapt, to survive, to stress. How it does it is utilizing these hormone rises to really—it knows it needs energy, it wants to replenish the glycogen stores, the glucose stores, that it needs in fight or flight. It will do anything to do that because if it doesn’t have stored glycogen, if a beast comes or a threat and you have to run, you need these stored glycogen.

When you take all that and burn it, and by the way, you don’t do that with regular endurance training, you burn through your glycogen with this high intensity training. To adapt, to survive, it wants to put those stores back as quickly as it can. How does it do it? Goes up the growth hormone. When you understand that, then you go, “Okay, that makes sense.” Why not eating afterwards actually creates the stress mechanism.

Warren:
Right.

Dr. Pompa:
Then the hormones rise to adapt and then it gets this thing. Again, it’s a 180° Solution concept. You think, well, we should replenish our fuel as soon as we’re done exercising.

Warren:
That’s what I do, still. I know, he’s told me this science, but I’m in this habit of—after my workout, make a…

Dr. Pompa:
Well, you’re hungry, so you’re responding. Again, stress adaptation mechanism, and understanding that, continuing that fast afterwards, you get this massive growth hormone spike.

Warren:
How long after should it—say I work out. I personally work out at 1:00. When I get done at 2, 2:30, when should I eat again? Should I wait until dinner?

Dr. Pompa:
In the article, I tried to answer some of those questions like that, because people are going to be, “Well, I can’t work out in the morning,” right? Like you. You work out at lunch. I would still argue don’t eat breakfast. If you work out at 1 or 2, give it two hours and then eat.

Warren:
Two hours.

Dr. Pompa:
Now, you can eat a light meal in the morning, work out at 1 or 2 and still wait two hours and still get the benefit. I think the greatest benefit is being completely on an empty stomach.

Warren:
I can wait until 3, 3:30.

Dr. Pompa:
Exactly. You’ll get a growth hormone spike.

Warren:
Then I should do a protein fat.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, absolutely.

Warren:
Soy milk, some whey protein and, blend it up.

Dr. Pompa:
Just waiting a couple hours after, you’re still going to get a spike. Will it be as great as the spike if you didn’t eat at all? Probably not, because the stress isn’t as great, right? It’ll still work. That’s one possibility. Another one, I think some people watch this show say, “Yeah, but I can’t even work out at lunch, I have to work out after work. What do I do?” Here’s my advice, because it gets a little more complicated here. What you could do is, of course, you could just work out, wait two hours come home and eat dinner and get some spike in growth hormone. You could also wait to the weekends and do this one time during the weekend, Saturday or Sunday.

Warren:
I was going to suggest that.

Dr. Pompa:
Here’s one other suggestion. Even one time during the week, if you took it and didn’t eat all day, or maybe a very small amount some time during the day, and then you came home from work, worked out and then waited two hours and ate dinner. Then you’d get a massive growth hormone spike, and then you did it again on the weekend. The other times, during the week, you could just do your normal routine. Even twice a week, if you’re getting this spike, you’re going to see amazing results. That’s some ideas, I have those ideas in the article if you want to review that.

Warren:
Or switch your workouts to the morning if you can.

Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely. I can’t always work out in the morning either. When I don’t, I’ll typically do the midday. I don’t eat, I do a midday, maybe work out at 1 or 2, and then I eat two hours after that. I fast even longer. My typical day of intermittent fasting is I eat dinner maybe around 7:00, 8:00 at night. Then I don’t eat again until, typically 2:00 or 3:00 in the afternoon. I work out some time in that time. That’s intermittent fasting daily. Going between 16-18 hours, on average, even 15 I would say, between dinner and your next meal. Basically, you’re carrying your fast through the night all the way around until lunch. Then I eat a very small meal. I don’t eat a big meal. What you’ll notice is if you eat a big meal during the day, then you’re tired. If you keep the meal small, low carb, higher fat meal, then you go, “Oh, I’m fine.” Then you eat the bigger dinner.

Warren:
I ate lunch yesterday, we did. I was wiped out, actually a little depressed, and you know what I did? Drank coffee, because I drank coffee, then I spiked my cortisol and I didn’t sleep as well last night. So, I got off my system. Literally, that mistake cost me energy and time.

Dr. Pompa:
It’s funny, we talk about the bigger meal at night and how cultures did this. There’s a lot of research that shows that humans are nocturnal eaters, actually. Meaning that we do better with an evening meal. The reason for that, by the way, and some other people have made this popular, is when you eat, you stimulate a part of your nerve system called the parasympathetic nerve system. That’s what kicks in your digestion.

When your parasympathetic nerve system is kicked in, what happens is you get tired. It’s very normal. Your sympathetic is your fight or flight. That’s your energy system. When you’re fasting, your sympathetic is stimulated, so you have all this energy. Your brain works better, you feel better. When you eat, it stimulates the parasympathetic, which makes you very sleepy. That’s why a bigger meal at night actually stimulates parasympathetic, and it gets you ready for bed. Again, I’m not saying, eat a major meal and then go to sleep.

I’m saying if you’re eating a big meal at dinner, and of course, then you have some hours then go to bed, you’re going to sleep better because it stimulates the right—you get your rhythm of your parasympathetic and sympathetic. Many people have that flipped. They’re not—they don’t have a normal rhythm between the two nerve systems. By the way, that’s why a lot of people can’t sleep at night. They wake up in the middle of the night. This is another way you regulate those two central nerve systems, the parasympathetic and sympathetic.

Warren:
That’s new to me, too. I didn’t know that.

Dr. Pompa:
It’s a really neat thing. When you look at how humans are meant to eat, that’s one of the big arguments for eating the bigger meal at night just to bring that full circle, in summary. I probably stimulated some more questions out there.

Warren:
We have two articles coming out that will hopefully do that. We’re not going to let them know what skinning is?

Dr. Pompa:
I think maybe they should just watch the video.

Warren:
The skinning thing is in the article, so go to drpompa.com.

Dr. Pompa:
That’s my favorite way to do this type of combination. You’re going to have to watch.

Warren:
Go there, it’ll be the article being released today. We actually created a new category underneath articles called the 180° Solution. That’s going to be one of our huge topics, (inaudible) these 180° Solution tips throughout the year. That’s what this article is going to be about. Go there, watch and find out what skinning’s about. Thank you so much for joining us today. This has been a great candid conversation. I hope I didn’t get myself in trouble at home, but the reality is we just want to bring this truth—remove the interference—the body will do the healing. Share your 180° Solution with your friends. Make a difference in this world. We love and appreciate you guys being part of this team and Cellular Healing TV, so committed and through this mission with us. Take care and have an amazing rest of your day on Friday and a great weekend. Thanks, guys.

 

Transcript of Episode 50: The Glyphosate Threat – It's Not Just the Gluten

With Dr. Daniel Pompa, Warren Phillips and David Asarnow.

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Warren:
Alright, we are live. I don't know if you heard that cheer in the background. There's a reason for that, and there's a reason for the party hats and the balloons in the back. It's not to celebrate my sexy, rustic voice, because I have a little bit of a voice issue with a cold that I have right now. I feel fine, but I lost my voice. More importantly, we did 50 episodes of Cellular Healing TV. You're a part of that, those of you watching right now, and of course, Dr. Pompa and David and the time you put in together; you listening, Dr. Pompa researching, us using the technology to reach the world with this message of remove the interference and the body will do the healing.

Heal the cell, get well. Lose weight, feel great. Some of our slogans from the past 50 episodes, and life transforming information that I honestly feel blessed to be able to share. I was sharing with Phil Kaplan last night, Dr. Pompa, about—I just feel like because I got my life back, because the healing strategies that were brought to us are not given to everyone, so I have this—not only a responsibility, but more of a delight because of the thankfulness in my heart that I got my life back, that I get to share it with others, and share that truth. You're the reason, Dr. Pompa.

As we celebrate 50 shows, you're the reason I got my life back. You're the reason so many people watching today got their life back. I get to be a part of that, and so does David, with his beautiful party hat. I just want to say congratulations. Cellular Healing TV, Dr. Pompa, David, the guests that have been on the show over the past 50 episodes, thank you so much for being a part of Cellular Healing TV. We're going to continue to share this message of truth with the world. Dr. Pompa, we have an amazing topic today. We wrote an article on DrPompa.com. It is getting shared all over the internet in a viral way, this message of glyphosate. It's not something that you've heard before about glyphosate, but glyphosate is now being used in such a way that it's actually poisoning us even more. I want to use this Cellular Healing TV show to not only get people to read that article, but to share this message with the world, Dr. Pompa.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, in the article I said that here's the top ten symptoms of this chemical. So many people have some of these signs and symptoms that they're being affected by this chemical. The title of the article was, “It's Not Just About Gluten,” which is something that I've said for a long time, right? The whole gluten thing is really, it's 180° topic in that. It's very in vogue. If you go to the store and you buy gluten free products, nine times out of ten, they're bad for you. Matter of fact, they raise glucose more than regular old products. I said in the article, “Look, gluten is a denatured protein.”

The question we always have to ask is this, “Why does gluten not bother some people but yet others?” Here's the other question, “Why in the last five years, especially, maybe ten, all of a sudden, is gluten such a big problem?” Remember, it's been around since the 1970's when we hybridized wheat and this protein got denatured. Why all of a sudden now is it that all these people are having problems with gluten? There's a reason for that? The reason is this chemical called Glyphosate, which is the active ingredient in an herbicide called Roundup. Many of you are familiar with it, because you spray your driveways or sidewalks with it. Maybe in your garden. Hopefully not. This is a chemical that's been criticized in the past by many. Monsanto's the company who makes it. Matter of fact, they've done a great job of selling more chemical. When they develop GMO, genetically modified plants, organisms, etc., they develop these plants to be able to handle more of this chemical. Pretty smart idea.

Let's see. We can beat the weeds because if we spray more of our chemical, we can actually kill the plant and affect the plant, but if we genetically modify the plant, the crop, in others words, to take more glyphosate, we're going to sell more chemical and we're going to solve some weed problems. The problem with this is we're being exposed to levels of glyphosate in GMO crops that we've never been exposed to. Here's the other problem. The technique introduced in the late 90's that really has come more in vogue, because this technique, using glyphosate, spraying it on grain—it could be any grain. As a matter of fact, if it's non-organic, it's probably been sprayed with glyphosate right before harvest. The process is called desiccation.

What desiccation really means is to dehydrate. They spray this chemical right before harvest, saturating the plant. Why do they do that? It makes it number one, easier to harvest, and number two, it actually increases the amount of seed. It actually increases the harvest, makes it easier to harvest, so profits go up. The problem is this—so does our glyphosate levels in our body. The amount of glyphosate right before harvest is pulled into these plants, and then we're ingesting this. They bottom line is if you're eating non-organic or just conventional grain of any type, you're putting yourself at great risk.

Here's why this is worse than gluten. This is the point, and I'll let you ask me some questions. Glyphosate has been shown to do some nasty stuff in the body. Three big ones, and we'll talk about all three. One is it puts holes in our gut. Now, when you have holes in your gut, it allows the gluten to cross over the gut. Now your body, for your own immune system, forms antibodies against this foreign protein. When I was sick, I couldn't eat gluten for the life of me. It would send me into inflammation. Today, I can eat gluten and it doesn't affect me. Why? I don't have holes in my gut. My gut is not leaking. Point is, it's estimated 90 some percent of Americans have leaky gut of some sort and don't even know it. When the leaky gut is bad enough, these proteins and gluten cross, and that's it. Look, gluten's not good, but when you have leaky gut, now you become massively inflamed from this foreign protein. Glyphosate is the real problem.

Warren:
David, I'm going to ask little questions today, because I don't have my voice. I don't want to lose it again like I did yesterday. One of the questions I have, Dr. Pompa, and I know that some of the viewers have—they're not just using glyphosate to spray down the weeds between the rows of corn or the cabbage or for the non-organic grains, so they don't have to weed that or till it or—just spray the chemical. They're really spraying it directly on the grain for more of a harvesting issue. It's not the old strategy of using it to knock down weeds in your corn rows. It's a different strategy. How long have they been doing this, is the first question. Question one, just really hit that point hard. Then two, when did they start this silly—I know why they did it. To sell more of their number one chemical. When did they start this—really, a travesty?

Dr. Pompa:
It did start in the late 90's. Again, this really caught on with farmers, saying, “Hey look, you can really increase your profits.” You can't blame them. You have to understand, Monsanto, the company who makes it, their defense is that this stuff is safe. If you convince yourself and convince others that it's safe, then why wouldn't you increase your profits? I'm not even going after, here, the farmers that are doing it. They're told it's safe. What research has shown is—and again, there's three things we can talk about here. One, it disrupts a pathway in your gut called a shikimate pathway. That pathway is how your body makes certain bacteria in your gut, makes certain amino acids that you need to make brain chemicals, such as serotonin, dopamine, and really, all these neurotransmitters that our brain needs. We understand there's this connection between our gut and our brain. When people get a messed up gut, they get depressed, etc., etc. We've learned a lot in the last year.

Monsanto's defense is, “Humans don't have this pathway, this shikimate pathway.” They're right. We don't. However, our bacteria in our gut do. It's killing these bacteria, obviously, causing holes in our gut and dysbiosis, but it's killing these bacteria that we need to make these brain chemicals. Now we know that glyphosate is being linked to Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, and even type 2 diabetes. All of these things where we need these brain chemicals. Depression. You look at the graphs, as glyphosate use goes up, so are these conditions. These conditions are expanding rapidly. Faster than cancer. Faster than heart disease. According to Stephanie Seneff, a Senior Research Scientist at the MIT Computer Science and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory, she feels glyphosate is at the root of these conditions' causation. We know it's causing holes in the gut, we know it's causing food intolerance, we know it's causing autoimmune, because that's the leaky gut, is linked to autoimmune. We know it's causing neurodegenerative diseases, brain problems, right?

Warren:
R1, Remove the Cause. What I'm thinking right now, because I know our audience and I know this field a little bit—leaky gut has become in vogue. I must have leaky gut. Everyone, they're taking the test. They're doing the food elimination diet more so than they're getting on organic grains, right? They're doing all this testing and food elimination. I know that some of the clients and health participants you work with, Dr. Pompa, can only eat a few different things that  our bodies don't react to any longer. They've really limited their diet. Not diet variation, but diet—like that last article you wrote, how healthy that diet is. They can't even do diet variation. The cause could be glyphosate versus just needing to switch their diet up as much.

Dr. Pompa:
I had a client yesterday. Obviously, this person was in a moldy homes and it caused massive problems with leaky gut. Really, any toxin can drive it. However, I would say as a whole, this is the number one. This is number one driving so much of the leaky gut. It's caused an epidemic of people, Warren, you said it, that—I have clients who can eat four foods. They have to rotate, because when they eat those four foods too long, their body's making antibodies against those foods. Then they have to switch over to another four foods. It's this game of going back and fourth. Imagine there's holes in the gut, and these food proteins are crossing over, and the body makes antibodies. This is the new epidemic. This is the new problem. Of course, they end up with autoimmune. They end up with all kinds of other problems because of this problem.

This is serious. Here's the irritating point to me, is that we're hearing all about gluten, gluten, gluten and all this stuff, but who's talking about glyphosate? Who's talking about the upstream cause of why gluten's a problem? Who's talking about, really, the massive epidemic? Why? We know this. The science is there. Just in the last three or four years, we have not just Seneff's work, but others who have realized that this is a massive problem. We innocently go, our children, us, and we're eating, whether it's bread, rice, whatever grain it is.

Look, I have a problem with too much grain, anyway. It's causing increased glucose, increased inflammation. When you look at this problem, the most dangerous food, really, on the planet is grain. I would say it this way, non-organic grain. Look, it's hybridized, it's GMO, and now it's sprayed with loads of this chemical. Gosh, it's unbelievable, and it's obsequious in our food supply. It's in everything.

David:
Dr. Pompa, what are the things—you have a chart in your most recent article that you put out there. It's really telling. It talks about the hospital discharge diagnosis of celiac's disease, and it shows an upward tick that literally matches the celiac incidents on a year over year basis, where the amount of celiac correlates almost directly to glyphosate being applied to wheat. This is unbelievable. You talk about the data. You talk about the statistics. Then, you have correlations like this. How can this not get in the mainstream media?

Dr. Pompa:
Exactly. When you look at the correlation alone, it raises eyebrows in question, with celiac disease, with diabetes. You look. You can run those correlation studies on so many different diseases.

David:
You have autism. You've got the charts here. Senile dementia. Everything that you're talking about and the increases are correlated with the increase or the amount of glyphosate.

Dr. Pompa:
People could argue, hey, well that could be a coincidence. Maybe. Maybe, but when you look at the studies, then you say, “I don't believe it's a coincidence.” The rise in the use of this chemical to the massive amounts that it is correlating with all these conditions. I guess the message of this show is R1. It's you have to remove this source from you and your family's diet. If you're going to eat grain, if you're healthy enough to eat grain, and I always like to say it that way—look, I'm always saying eat these more ancient types of grain that haven't been hybridized and changed and proteins denatured. For goodness sakes, eat 100% organic grain in your diet. Look, can you go out to dinner, and you have a little bit of exposure to this? Your body can deal with it. It's when it's day in, day out, breakfast, lunch, and dinner, you're going to put holes in your gut. I think genetically, what is our tolerance level? I think everyone's is different. When you get to a point where every day you're exposing this chemical, how does your body deal with it? You're going to disrupt your gut bacteria. You're affecting this brain and you're affecting your gut and you're affecting your immune system. This is a big problem. I'm not saying you have to be this police on every bit of thing—you're going to get exposed to some degree, but for goodness sakes, if all you did at home when you ate was ate 100% organic grain, you're going to avoid this problem, I believe. Gosh, put 100% organic grains in your home.

I'm often asked this question. What do we do about the exposure, now? It does. Especially people who are already challenged, this stuff bioaccumulates in your fat cells, in and around your body. Arguably, that can be a problem, too. I think again, when we talk about true cellular detox and our method of detox, it should be something that we do often because of these exposures that you can't avoid. Obviously, you can't avoid all of it, even though you're doing the best job you can.

Dr. Pompa:
Warren's usually chatty.

-Cross talk-

Dr. Pompa:
We give him grace today. There's no doubt about it.

Warren:
I always have a lot to talk about.

David:
One of the things that you—

Dr. Pompa:
The voice and beard, David. Warren's turning a sexy corner, man.

Warren:
Actually, my wife said to me yesterday—and we can do this, we do this. We tell stories. We're just live and real on our show. Two things she said. One is, “I'm attracted to you with that sexy voice.” The other thing she said, “It's so much more peaceful in our home right now because you're whispering.”

Dr. Pompa:
You have that octave to your voice that someone could be on the other side of a crowded lobby and say, “Is Warren here?” He has a voice to pierce walls.

David:
When we had a conference call last night, Dr. Pompa, I didn't recognize Warren's voice. If I didn't know it was Warren, I wouldn't have known it was him.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that's right. That's funny. I said there was a couple things other than this chemical does, right? We're talking about true cellular detox. This chemical has been shown to shut down this P450 detoxification pathway of the liver.

Warren:
P450, I remember that one.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, right. It's just one of the main detox pathways of the liver, right? How your body gets rid of chemicals, right? It disrupts this pathway. What does that mean? What happens is in these top ten symptoms, and you all can read them there, if you pull up the article, to our audience, because it shuts down this detox pathway, that's why it creates a lot of those symptoms, these top ten symptoms of glyphosate exposure. It's shutting down the detox pathway. Therefore, now it's affecting cellular energy. Think of the 5R's. It's affecting the cell membrane. It's affecting the methylation pathways. It starts to shut down all the detox pathways. You start bioaccumulating not just glyphosate, but other chemicals and heavy metals. This is the tragic reality of what's happening. When we look at autistic children and people that are very sick and challenged, these pathways are shut down.

Look, I'm not saying glyphosate is the only cause. We know it does shut down the pathway, but then you expose people to the amount of fillings that are in your mouth all day, leaching mercury 24/7. When they drink hot foods, the levels go up, into their brain, into their gut. These are the people who are getting this exposure, that exposure, or that add another stressful event emotionally.

David:
Had a car accident or a slip and fall. That could be the one thing.

Warren:
That's right.

Dr. Pompa:
I have these clients that have all these challenges. David, it's this perfect storm. It's the stressors that come in, typically in threes, and then shut down the body, shut down the detox pathways. Now the time bomb is ticking. Now it's a matter of time before the bucket overflows. That's what happens. We love to give our little things here, but this is something that we've done in the past. Let's see if I can do it. Warren loves to draw, but we'll give him a break today. You all can't see that. I'm going to use a stinky marker. That's how much I love you guys.

Warren:
What are you drawing? Maybe I know how to do it.

Dr. Pompa:
There's the bucket. We'll just do it this way.

Warren:
The bucket, okay.

Dr. Pompa:
As we come through life in utero, right, in Momma's belly, we start accumulating—we get a blessing from Mom of toxins, right? My kids got my wife's lead. There's no doubt that when we saw certain things happening—our kids didn't get vaccinations, but let's say they come out and do. Then we add even another toxic burden. My kids got my wife's lead. Before they even got out of the womb, that was there first.

Then they come out into life, and they start getting other exposures. You get amalgam fillings in as a teenager. You get the hepatitis B vaccine as a teenager. All of a sudden, perhaps, you get two amalgams out or you live in a moldy home. Then the bucket overflows. Of course now all the glyphosate exposures are in here shutting down the detox pathway. Imagine this. Imagine a pipe down here at the bottom. We'll call this your detox pathway, alright? You've got toxins coming in and you've got things going out. What happens when this gets overwhelmed? What happens when that detox pathway gets overwhelmed? All of a sudden, we start—can you see that now? Okay. Now all of a sudden, when this detox pathway gets overwhelmed, the accumulation starts happening even faster. When the bucket overflows, this is when the symptoms start, right? This is when people go, “Oh my goodness, I don't know.” What do most people do at this point? They end up on medication, right? They end up taking certain medication to deal with certain symptoms.

David:
What I've been hearing about a lot lately, Dr. Pompa, is a lot of people go to a doctor and like, “We'll just irradiate, and we'll kill off your thyroid. That will solve your symptoms.”

Dr. Pompa:
I guess the question is this. This is one of the big problems even in alternative medicine, right? Do the supplements, do the medications, empty the bucket? The answer is no. Typically, they're just dealing with symptoms, right, instead of actually saying, “Okay, let's empty the bucket out.” To empty the bucket, you have to stop the sources in, and you have to minimize it, you can't stop it completely, and you have to open up the pathways out. That's R1. We want to assist in the detoxification of that bucket.

Imagine you have 50, 70 trillion cells, or we should say little buckets, in your body. Those things need empty. That's how you get well. If you don't fix the cell, you don't get well. If you don't detox the cell, you don't get well. The 5R's really is about fixing that cell so the cell can start to function and unload these toxins, down regulate inflammation.

Warren:
Remove the cause.

Dr. Pompa:
Right, exactly. In the past show, we talked about, “Great, we unload the cell, but where does that go? It goes to your liver.” We have some techniques that we do to get it from the liver into the gut, where we catch it with something that brings it out of the body. We talk about that all the time, so let me just remind our audience and new people. I'm not going to use that stinky marker, so I'm going to get up close. Imagine this as being the cell, up here, okay? There's a little bucket that's getting overloaded, because this cell membrane is inflamed. Toxins are building up in the cell, affecting how the cell works. Keep it simple. We start to get the cell healthy, it'll bring its toxins, it'll bring it to the liver. Let's bring it to the liver. Oh, boy, you can't see that, can you?

Warren:
Yeah, we can see it.

Dr. Pompa:
Alright, good. Okay. Let's just bring it next to the liver. That's a liver. It looks like your liver, right, didn't it? The liver then has to deal with these toxins. Let's say it's successful and we give it support to do so. Then it dumps it in the gut. If I draw a little snake down here—that's the intestines right? Then we have to bind up these toxins here to make sure they go out of the body. We have two problems—three. If we don't get the toxins from here to here, we're dead in the water. We need things to do that. That's part of our detoxification protocol. Then if they get stuck up here, then we have another problem. Oftentimes, we have to do things to get them out of here. Then what happens when it dumps into the gut, most of the toxins are reabsorbed, because the body brings it back around to the liver, unless we find it in the gut and bring it out of the body. That system is what we use, and we've used for years. Again, that's the answer as far as the detoxification side goes. You have to minimize your sources, folks. You've got to get this stuff out of your diet.

Warren:
We were talking about the bucket, man. Let's see what Tuula has to say.

David:
Hey, Tuula!

Warren:
Tuula, she eats an all organic, high fat diet for her brain. She's three—how old is Tuula? Just a little over three.

David:
Tuula, how old are you?

Warren:
Stand up so we can see you. Tuula, tell everybody really loud. Do you eat bread and sugars? No. Why don't we eat bread and sugars?

It's not good for your body, is it? You can control yourselves. Children don't have willpower or good habits coming right out of the womb, right? They need to be trained and create good habits. We're doing that for her now. Then someday, she's going to have to create her own good habits of not eating the things that are going to lead to disease and dysfunction and suffering. We're helping to create those good habits in our lives. It's the same thing with everyone watching today, is that, “I can't break bread.” If you listen to any research or science, the law of habits will tell you that in 21 days, you can create a new habit and transform your life in that.

You are the outcome of your habits in your life. If you have a lot of good habits, you create a habit of exercise, your brain doesn't even think about it. You exercise every day or every other day, you exercise on Tuesdays and Thursdays. If you don't have unhealthy, non-organic grains and you have T1, a lot of ancient grains and sprouted grains and that's what you feed your family, you create that habit in your life, maybe that's the only habit you create. It's January. You'll transform your life. Create those good habits. Those of you thinking, “I can't break bread,” yes you can break bread, and you can also break the habit of eating these unhealthy, unorganic grains in your life. There you go.

Dr. Pompa:
Just to bring this back full circle, as far as—look, it's not that hard. If you do true cellular detox, just as I described—and by the way, Warren, what episode was that where I did it on the big board with much more clarity?

Warren:
It was three episodes ago. It was 48, I believe.

Dr. Pompa:
Alright, so look back on that. Give them the title here, if you can look back. Watch that episode. You'll see that. That's true cellular detox. Again, a footbath, magnets on the feet, colon cleanses—a colon cleanse is not getting up to the cell, right? It's down in the one pathway. A liver cleanse. You're still not up to the cell. Then what about, what are you doing in the gut? True cellular detox is that whole system, starting at the cell, all the way through the body. The 5R's is really a roadmap to how you fix the cell. If you fix the cell, the cell will work. It'll rid itself of toxins. By the way, it takes years as these cells regenerate and replace themselves. This is a process that takes a long time.

Stop putting the stuff in your body. Get the crap out of your mouth, right, whether it's root canals, whether it's amalgam fillings, whether you're in a moldy home, whether—a lot of folks out there look at, “I've got this virus,” whether it's cytomegalovirus, Epstein-Barr virus, Candida, fungus, parasites—well guess what? I had all of those things, every one of them, when I was sick. The point is that they're opportunistic. It's till too far downstream. I'm not telling you don't get rid of parasites. I'm not telling you don't try to knock down Candida, but you'll never get it all the way to where it doesn't affect your health until you go upstream and get rid of the sources.

True cellular detox is the answer. Again, cleaning up your life is the answer. It really is. You start there. Making good habits, like Warren's saying. Don't put stuff in the bucket, and open up the pathway to dump the bucket and every cell in your body. Keeping your liver and your gut, moving it out. That's the system. Go watch the episode. That's, I think, my criticism of even alternative doctors, is that they're giving people a lot of supplements, a lot of things, and really less side effects than a medication, but really, are they going upstream and really getting to what is causing people to get sick? Glyphosate's part of that. You can watch our past shows on heavy metals, moldy homes. We've looked at many different types of toxins in many of these shows that can be the reason why you don't feel well that you have to get out.

David:
You go upstream and you remove the source, and you open up your detox pathways. Then you can start working down the process.

Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely, David. I want to make a point, too, is that that's the process that we do. Just by making the cell healthy, it will start to detox. Catching it in the gut in our process so it doesn't reabsorb back to the liver, right? That's the mistake so many people make. That's all great, but depending on what toxins you have—and you know, oftentimes look, if someone's majorly challenged out there, this is why we're training doctors all around the country. You're going to need to coach to figure out even what specific toxin you have. How we bind heavy metals with true chelators is different than how our body's just going to get rid of glyphosate by raising glutathione.  You need, oftentimes, specific chelators to grab this stuff and pull it out. Within that system I just showed you, we use that system whether someone has a biotoxin, whether it's Lyme, mold. However, we also use specific agents to help rid certain types of toxins. Again, most of those agents you need to utilize with a practitioner who knows how to use them. It's not just the general public using some of those types of agents. Word of caution there.

What I just showed you in episode 48 or whichever episode it was, maybe it was 47, 48, that is a general process that everybody can really do with our system. Specific toxins, things like heavy metals, you definitely most likely need a coach to make sure you're using these agents correctly.

Warren:
Awesome, guys. What a great show. Oh, there's my hat again.

David:
Yay!

Warren:
Yay hat. Should I wear a grain, Dr. Pompa? Does that look like a grain? Does that look like corn?

Dr. Pompa:
I'm not technical enough to put those types of hats on, but I can do this, because I do live in Park City, Utah. Once again, I waited until the end before I would expose the real deal. I talk about true cellular detox, right? Now I'm going to talk about true hats, okay? You guys have phony hats. This is the real deal. This is true cellular detox. This is detoxing the cell.

Warren:
All-natural hat.

David:
It's organic corn.

Warren:
The way that one of your past shows on how to make your eats healthy for your pets, and how pets eat that variation as well.

Dr. Pompa:
That's right.

Warren:
Congratulations. Thanks so much, guys, for all your dedication over the last 50 episodes. Looking forward to 100 more with you guys, as we get to share this message, as we continue to grow, and new information comes through our practitioners to the Cellular Healing TV community. Thanks so much. Have a great, awesome weekend, and implement some new habits in your life. God bless.

 

 

Transcript of Episode 49: Diet Variation for Weight Loss

With Dr. Daniel Pompa and Warren Phillips.

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Warren:
Hello, everybody. Good morning. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV, episode 49. A really powerful show today. Dr. Pompa stumbled upon something that I believe is really going to help a lot of people today. We're going to discuss diet variation, which is a new term, we believe, and coined. It may be out there somewhere, but I haven't found it.

Diet variation for weight loss and fat burning. It's a great strategy. It's actually historic, in how individuals in the past used to go through times of fasting and eating in surplus. Dr. Pompa, this is a hot topic. You've tested it, not only on animals, but on some of your clients, to get some great health and weight loss breakthroughs. Let's shoot the show today. David Asarnow is in the house with us, as well, as our co-host. Dr. Pompa, what do you think about this topic?

Dr. Pompa:
Love this topic. I have to admit, I did just stumble upon this. I'll tell you that story, but this is—actually, if you watch the end of the year show, or I guess, the beginning of the year show—I don't remember what episode it was. Maybe 46. Can't remember. We don't remember these episodes, but I basically recapped what I believe were the five exciting shows, right, of last year. If you haven't watched it, watch it. This is one of them. I just didn't get into details. I did say that there'd be a future show, so here we are. Kept up with my promise.

Diet variation—what is it, and why does it work so good for, not just weight loss, although that is how I really discovered this works. It really works just for all-around health, because my patients are like, “Oh my gosh, my energy levels are so much better.” They go through a litany of different things that have changed. Now, here's the interesting thing. This is how it came about. Through ketosis, and many of you read some of my keto articles (Part 1 and Part 2) and how to use this diet as a tool. It's not necessarily a diet someone can stay on forever, although some people genetically can't. In that, we have my 5-1-1 rule, which is a way of doing one day of fasting in a week and then one day where you actually carb load. It worked. It kept the body out of thinking it was starving and it mixed it up. We know that it works. That has been used before. Other people have tried different combinations.

Then we even have intermittent fasting. We talk a lot about that. Here's what happens, though. I get these people, and they get into ketosis. I guarantee you, people watching this said, “Dr. Pompa, I tried to get into ketosis. I read all your articles. I watched your shows. Yet, I was unable to get my keto numbers between .5 and 5.” By the way, that is nutritional ketosis. Those watching have no idea what I'm talking about, ketosis. I apologize. We do have articles on that, but I'll say it this way very simply. It's when we shift your cells over to really relying mostly on fat for energy. Most cells in the body, they can use glucose, they can use fat. They can use glucose, fat. When you go into keto adaptation, you burn fat for energy. Ketones are the byproduct of that, and they fall in a blood range of .5 to 5. That is called nutritional ketosis.

Warren:
Healthy ketosis.

Dr. Pompa:
What's that? Nutritional ketosis.

Warren:
Yeah, but it's healthy. There's a negative out there on ketosis because of insulin resistance, right?

Dr. Pompa:
Diabetics can literally not produce any insulin. Therefore, they would go into diabetic ketosis, where that number would be even up to 50.

Warren:
Very dangerous.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, scary situation. This is nutritional ketosis. You fall in that range. This means, now, that you're utilizing more fat for energy. Why is that important? Fat burns so clean we can down regulate cellular inflammation. Read the articles in the nutshell so you can follow this conversation. That's what it's about.

Okay, so here's what happens. The healthy, normal, average person should, within two weeks to four weeks, adapt, and their numbers should become between .5 and 5. That means now you're this fat burning, efficient machine, right? People lose weight. One of the first things that happens is the brain works better. All of a sudden, the brain loves these ketones, and the brain starts functioning better. Look, it's been around since the 1920's as a tool to fix the brain. It works, right?

Here's the interesting thing. We have people who don't go into ketosis. Why is this? We know that certain toxic conditions don't go into ketosis. Certain hormone conditions struggle to get in. After literally four months, and some patients, even five months of trying, zero weight loss, still not getting into ketosis, every once in a while, a little number will go up. I would say, “Okay, let's go back to the regular Cellular Healing Diet,” okay? We will just see what happens.

We put them back on a regular Cellular Healing Diet. By the way, the diet that they were on before I put them into keto adaptation and they weren't losing weight and they weren't having results, obviously one of the reasons why I shifted their diet in the first place, I put them back on that diet. It didn't cause weight loss. Now, all of a sudden, they report to me, “I've lost ten pounds. That's the same diet as we were on before. What changed?” I don't know. Keep eating higher, healthy carbohydrates, more vegetables, berries. Let's see what happens. Sure enough, they do lose the ten pounds, but then the weight loss stops again. Of course, I think to myself, “Let's go back into ketosis. See what happens.” Put them back into ketosis. Lo and behold, they start losing fat again, and they end up getting in ketosis the second time around. Why is this happening? Okay, that is what we call diet variation, meaning that we changed up the diet. This became something that—

Warren:
 I do have a question, though. It was a good time to pause.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. You've spurred a few questions on me. When you were explaining this to me, I actually spent the weekend with Dr. Pompa, I think I did the show live from—did we do the show live from your house on Friday? We did, the Cellular Healing episode 48. The question is, to me, someone is in weight loss resistance, and they've tried the ketogenic diet, your 5-1-1 rule, your 2-2-2 rule. They're doing everything right. They just can't get into ketosis. Then, when they make that switch, eating more healthy carbs, right? Do you have a scientific reason why that eating—healthy carbs. We're not saying carb load eating pasta, rice, all this. You're actually just saying, eat more of a higher, healthy carb diet. Berries, nuts and seeds. What other types of foods, when you break into that, obviously, I want to know that too, to shock the body of whatever it's doing, to get them to go back into ketosis once they try that variation in their diet. Does that make sense, Dr. Pompa?

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. When we look at ancient diets, they started, of course, in the wintertime. They were eating large amounts of fat, animals, etc., and they really relied on that. They didn't have vegetables. They couldn't go shopping in grocery store.

Warren:
They didn't have Whole Foods back then?

Dr. Pompa:
They had Kroger's, if you remember Kroger's.

Warren:
Oh yeah, that's true, with Fred Flintstone. Yeah. Flintstones, meet the Flintstones—

Dr. Pompa:
Anyways, so they would eat mostly that. Then, what happen come spring? Of course, they were so sick of buffalo, elk, and other meats, right, deer, that they gravitated to the nuts, seeds, and vegetables that were around; a higher carbohydrate diet. Really, in today's terms, let's not kid ourselves here; let's not call it a high carbohydrate diet. In our terms, from ketosis, yeah, it was a higher carbohydrate diet. It was healthy carbs, but what would happen then is obviously, there was a massive diet variation.

Really, my theory of why this works is because again, it's this adaptation, innate, inborn intelligence, this survival mechanism that when we have times of fasting and famine. When we have times of this type of diet switching over to this type of diet. The body instinctively, intuitively, has to make those changes. It does it by switching hormones. It does it by raising growth hormone. It does it by making the switches in the body. Oftentimes, people are stuck. It makes this massive survival shift. I believe that it triggers something in the body to start that fat burning again, just like the 5-1-1 rule. We can eat 20, 30, 40, 50 grams of carbs a day, and all of a sudden one day, we load up with 200, 300 carbs, and the next day, we're leaner. Something hormonally shifts. Something tells that innate intelligence, “We're okay now. Let's burn fat like crazy.” Same thing happens. You're on this diet where you're just fat, fat, fat, fat, fat. The body somehow thinks it's in a starvation mode, something hormonally it's doing to survive. Then, all of a sudden, here comes the plenty. All of a sudden, now, this is,” Let's burn, let's burn, let's burn, and it shifts on all these metabolic hormones.

It is this diet variation that really is key. What does that tell us? It tells us that first of all, I've been one to say, “Look, you can't pinpoint one diet on everybody, right?” Genetically, we're all a little different. We'll utilize the Cellular Healing Diet, high fats, in someone who is cellular intermittent fasting. We need to fix the membrane. It's a diet that some people will stay on their whole life. It's a diet that we put people on until we fix cellular inflammation. That can vary per person. There's certain things that transcend all cultures dietarily, but not every diet is for everybody. It tells us this. These people that say, “Hey, look, the vegan diet is the way to go,” and they're on this vegan diet their whole life—

Warren:
That's a good point.

Dr. Pompa:
Right, yeah. This variation in diet instinctively, intuitively, survival. It is good for the body.

David:
You know what's interesting? You're talking about this, and what comes to me is that in working out, if you do the same workouts all the time, they stop working. You've got to do the high intensity training. You need to up, down, up, down. You need to change things up. To me, it sounds like this is along the same lines very much so.

Dr. Pompa:
It is, David. The body knows. We have to break it out of what we call homeostasis, where the body just gets stagnant, almost stuck, if you will. Then we come in with a different workout, and whoa, you get sore the next day. You feel like wow, what an amazing—I used to say when I would work out in different gyms, I would always get a better workout, just because the angles of those machines were a little different. Things were a little different. That little variation in exercise made the workout that much more intense. This is true, also, for diet.

Warren:
This is a huge—something we really haven't discussed. I think it's a way to combat those people who say, “Do this diet. Paleo all the way. Only Paleo. Paleo. Only CrossFit.” Then again, they do a lot of variation in CrossFit, so maybe that one's not the best example. You have a vegan come and it's like, “Dan, my life was transformed eating vegan.” Of course. You did a diet variation. You got a massive benefit. Some of your clients, Dr. Pompa, who were vegan their whole life are now sick, because there's a downside to eating vegan or being vegetarian. There's also a positive to eating raw or vegan or going vegetarian for a season in your life, because you might've been in that foraging time when there wasn't any meat, and you're just living on herbs and vegetables for a season. Long term, that can break the mindset. That's not how humans lived. They did diet variation, especially for certain genetic types.

Maybe that might not be across the board, but I know for someone European like me, we're still from that tribal nature folks. Seasonal eating and things like that. That's really, really an important way to explain that. Someone's like, “Hey, yeah. Vegan's great, but you may want to do some diet variation, because that's what our bodies are designed for.” It works with the naysayers, too. “Don't eat vegan.” Maybe not.

Dr. Pompa:
It is true. People get stuck on, let's say, a vegetarian or vegan diet because what do they do? They go, yeah, well they were eating this horrific grain-fed meat diet, so they take meat out of their diet, variation, and they go vegan or vegetarian. Of course they get this, “Oh my god, I feel so much better. I lost weight. That's great.” Then they stay there because it worked. Now they end up with other deficiencies, perhaps.

Warren:
Or the opposite. Let's bash the meatitarians, the people who just eat meat, meat, meat all the time, and their genetics aren't for that. Maybe Eskimos' are, high fat and meat.

David:
Actually, a long time ago—

Warren:
Native Americans. I don't know if that's—yeah, Eskimos. That's proper, isn't it?

David:
I have no idea.

Warren:
If I offended anyone, I'm sorry. I just, I'm trying to have a great conversation here. Don't want to offend anyone. I just know that people who live north, there's not a lot of vegetables. Let's be honest, right? My wife's from Canada.

David:
One of the things we spoke about on an episode last year was exactly this topic. If you look at the genetics of where we're from, the foods that were available, why, up in the north, in the Nordic areas, do they eat a lot of high fat fish, high fat foods? Why? The lack of sun. A lot of this ties back to things that we've talked about in previous episodes.

Dr. Pompa:
David, when we look at where people are from, that definitely will gravitate people to the diet they're genetically better from. Some people do way better with higher fat diets. Again, we can use a vegetarian diet, for example, as a tool to simplify eating for cancer patients, but do you stay there? I argue no, unless it's really your genetic diet. I believe no matter what, diet variation helps. Again, our genetics are just tuned to that, for seasonal eating. I had a conversation with my vet randomly. It was just this random thing that she was looking at our dog, and she was saying she has a diet called the Wild Dog Diet. It's based on this principle. She said, “Animals are meant to eat seasonally. They are meant to have this variation in their diets. There are times where they're eating more vegetables, roots, etc., and there's times where the meat is plenty. She said, when animals don't get this variation in their diet, it creates health problems. It's a seasonal way of eating.

Of course, it's the same with humans. Of course it is. I started reading about this in the animal kingdom, and I found that it is, in fact, true. I was in Wyoming, and I was able to look at the history there and realize that this seasonal eating is a survival mechanism. Even the Eskimos, even the people who live up north, there still is massive variation in their diet. I would argue that they're always going to do better on higher fat, even a higher protein diet, but even their protein amounts go up and down. Again, I know that there's truth to this.

Again, we make the argument that certain diets are going to be better for—I'm definitely better on a high fat diet. Moderate protein, low carb diet. That works for my genetics. When I vary it around—so in the summertime, you all know I go into ketosis. I thrive on that diet. I can ride and exercise for hours and hours and hours. What I've done now is I've forced more vegetables and more things—and by the way, I don't even love vegetables. I gravitate to the meat on my plate, trust me, and butters and cheeses and things. I'm still eating those things, because I do so well on fat, but now I've introduced more—I'm eating more lentils in my diet, I'm eating more quinoa in my diet, brown rice, things like that. Of course, I'm eating more vegetables. I forced my carbohydrate intake up. I'm just varying my diet, once again, in the summertime, when I go back into a ketonic state.

Again, I'm still on a diet that really works for me, but obviously, the variation has been magical. Warren, I said to you before, we all know, I'm not a big guy, right, genetically? I'm very small boned. I say this not to brag or boast, I say this to prove a point. The other day when I actually had a spotter in the gym, I put up 80 pound dumbbells on an incline press. That's a lot for a little guy, especially for someone—literally, I can press way more than my body weight. Again, I had a shift when I went into ketosis, but then I went into this diet, and I saw this amazing strength gain. It just shows me, the proof is that my body adapted very well, but I know this. It will stagnate. It will plateau. Then when I shift it again, good things are going to happen again. Really, really neat topic. It really is.

Warren:
Yeah, and I think it's true. I think you just proved your point why that's the case. You're looking back in history, you're looking at your genetics, and you're seeing, “Hey, this is historically what worked for people. This is how their lives are lived. Their bodies adapted, they put on more muscle, they put on more fat at certain times during their seasonal cycle. I think bodybuilders innately did that. Bodybuilders, to just say personal fitness people that are really focused on that. I know a lot of times, some of the personal trainers that I work with and we work with—can you please turn that off? What they do is they usually eat more for a season. They say, “Man, I start eating. I'm eating essentially a zero-sugar diet.” They get really lean, but they start getting weak, right? At first, they see a good benefit. They lean down. Then after they're on it for a while, they say, “I'm just getting weak. I've got to go back and put in some healthy carbs.” Most of these guys are eating unhealthy rices and things like that. However, they just blow up, and they put on a ton of muscle, and they store that muscle. Then they'll go on a cleaner diet, lean out again. In those carb phases when they put on weight, they're actually able to lift a lot more and they get a lot stronger. I just see that in the gym when I'm just talking with these guys.

Dr. Pompa:

Yeah. Here's one of the little animals that diet. Isn't she so cute? She's just so adorable. Now Warren's going to run and get Tula, you're going to run and get your cats. We're going to do all this.

Warren:
My wife was just in to the office here, but no Tula. She's in school.

Dr. Pompa:
Alright, you've got to go home.

David:
My cats aren't in my office right now.

Dr. Pompa:
Pretty soon, you're going to hear snarling and all this animal noise. The little girl there goes after Frendle, who's a little older and gets perturbed. She pulls his beard and starts snarling.

Warren:
The Wild Dog Diet. Works in dogs, works in humans.

Dr. Pompa:
That's right, the Wild Dog Diet. We talked about animals, gosh darn it; we've got to bring one on the show. Yeah, so my wife will love that, too. She'll want everyone to watch just because her dog. She calls that one her dog, by the way. Anyways, where the heck was I? I see the dog—

David:
I was talking about the fitness trainers and how they do that as well.

Dr. Pompa:
It's neat though, because I would've thought before I would go into these ketonic states—didn't I tell you that that was going to happen? Sure enough, it's happening.

David:
You knew it.

Dr. Pompa:
Before I go into these ketonic states, before I did that, went into ketosis, if I went on as high of a carbohydrate diet as I'm eating now—and again, I'm eating healthy carbs. Folks, we're not telling you to go out and eat pizza. We're not telling you to eat toxic food, okay? We're saying vary your diet within healthy foods, right? If I did that before, I would've absolutely gotten way more fat. My energy would've dropped. This time, it was a different shift, and I believe it was because of it I came off that keto type of diet.

I think you can vary your diet in a week's time, and I do that. There's days, like I said, I don't typically eat until 2:00 in the afternoon. That's my first meal. I fast through the night. That's intermittent fasting daily. Then there's some days I just go through and I just don't eat until dinner. I did that yesterday. I did, basically, a 24-hour fast. Sometimes, you can just go the whole day, even more than a 24 hour, until the next day. That's diet variation. It really is. You're fooling your body. Then, once a week, I eat even more carbs. Right now that's not as fun, because I'm not into ketosis. That's more fun when you're actually knocking your carbohydrate down to 20, 30, 40 grams a day, and then all of a sudden, you eat 200? You want to talk about variation?

The point is that we can do variation for three or four months, we can do variation within a week. I think that makes it fun, but it works. It works. I guess the message is, is if you've been stuck in this same diet, it may in fact have worked for you or even working for you, I still encourage you to shift it up with other foods. How much fat you're getting, how much protein. It is a neat thing to do. Watch it work. It works. You should hear the results. It's really fun. I know that there's so many people out there that have, some of them have even gone into ketosis. This is another client that I had. Got into ketosis and still wasn't losing weight. Meanwhile, it looked like she should be. She keto adapted, a fat burner, and yet the pounds weren't moving. Took her out of ketosis, put her on—like I said, I had her juicing green juices, right? The good stuff. We had her blending. Vegetables, salads, things like that. Eating more berries, pushed it up. Lo and behold, she felt better. Weight loss, minimal, but she actually dropped some pounds. Felt better, and then moved her back into ketosis. Now she loses weight. It's neat to watch, it really is.

Warren:
It's hormone manipulation. Really what you said, Dan, is you're manipulating hormones, you're shocking your body into changing its hormones up. Weight loss is a hormone issue. Energy is a hormone issue. Your thyroid puts out hormones for energy. Your adrenal glands—it's all hormone manipulation.

I had an important point that you said there, Dan. I wanted to mention that. Hormone manipulation—oh, the other side of this, too. You said you started juicing and grinding up all the lettuce and fruits and vegetables and whatever else that you had. The berries—not oranges and bananas, but bad, bad. It'll drive up your insulin glucose badly, but it's a digestion issue too. Essentially, there's so many hormones that are released through your gut, if you do a juice fast, for instance, maybe there was some gut healing that needed to take place. Maybe your body was wasting so much energy, it really didn't have enough energy to break down all those heavy proteins and stuff in your body, and you just juiced for a week, and it rested the gut and the gut got healthier. Maybe it was s nutrient depletion issue. There's some of the gut things in there, and there's some—another tip I would say is do some juicing, three, four days, Dr. Pompa. In that situation, it could've been a gut issue.

Dr. Pompa:
It's funny you said that, because a lot of the clients I work with, they'll say, “I don't do well on a high fat diet.” It's because their gallbladder, it's called hepatic, meaning liver; biliary, bile; sludge, meaning toxic, right? Hepatic biliary sludge builds up, because their detox pathways are backed up. The show before this one, we talked about that process that we use in detoxification, right? Making the cell up here causing the toxins to leave the cell and make their way to the liver. Oftentimes, we have to move it from the liver out of the body, right? What happens is their liver and their gallbladder get so sludged up, no wonder you can't digest fat.

Meanwhile, it's the very thing that you need the most. These patients are fat—they need it so much for the brain and their cell membrane, and they can't eat it. Oftentimes, people gravitate to the wrong diet, because like you said, Warren, they have a digestive issue. They have a liver issue, a gallbladder issue. Then we fix that. We help that purge out. Then we start bringing in, and we ramp them up on a higher fat diet. In the meantime, sometimes we have to put them on more vegetables and things like that.

Warren:
This is a massive 180° topic, Dr. Pompa. I'll cite two examples that we just did. We were sitting in that hotel, and this lady, this young professional, saying, “I want the skinny, low fat latte,” or “the soy latte.” When they get, “Do you want whole milk?” “No, I want the soy.” “I want the low fat.”

Dr. Pompa:
She actually said gluten free, sugar free, and it was the fat free. Gluten-free, sugar-free, fat-free latte. I'm like, oh my god!

Warren:
This is an educated—you could tell, a high-end professional. Getting it done in the world. Making a difference. Man, just doing it 180° wrong.

David:
It's marketing and it's what's going on out there in the mainstream media.

Warren:
Definitely. That's what we're doing right now. We're marketing for truth.

David:
They're marketing for their—they're not marketing for health. People think that they're doing the right thing. By the way, I'm listening to all this, and I'm coming from the outside. If I was not sitting on every show with you guys and I wasn't entrenched in your world, I'd say, “Oh my gosh. Where do I go first? What do I do?” One of the things that this brings to mind, and the importance of having a coach, and having a health coach with you to help you along the way. You brought up some really good points here, that why some things work for some people. Where do I begin? If someone is looking for a coach, what would you tell them?

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, we have—obviously, I've trained—and I say we because all of us have helped these doctors in a different way, but doctors all around the country. I think we have 60 doctors, approximately, trained around the country that understand cellular healing and cellular detox. We just did the pain summit, and we have thousands of people commenting and watching it. I talked about cellular healing and cellular detox. We got more positive comments than anybody, just because nobody's about this. I just read three or four more testimonies this morning. Yeah, nobody is talking about it, but unfortunately, that's where the truth lies. Yeah, getting coaching from someone who understands these topics is huge. You do need a coach, David. A lot of people that—my dog just almost wiped this—

David:
I know, we see your screen going like this—

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. Rolling around on the ground, you know? These dogs follow me everywhere, man. It's life with them. They're always going to be here. You see me on these shows. If I'm here, pretty much there's a dog somewhere in eyeshot.

David:
Or two, yeah.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, or two. Right, exactly. If we get a cat in here, then we're in big trouble, because the dog and the cat will go at it. In a good way, they wrestle. Yeah, you do need coaching David, because like you said, a lot of people—this cellular healing, this cellular detox, we use specific types of chelators within that detoxification system that we talked about last week. It works. Cellular detox works. It's really the only thing that actually works. It's taken us years to really develop this system and how we use specific chelators, whether it's biotoxins, heavy metals, molds, Lyme Disease, is really what you need a practitioner for, and a coach. Even some of this diet stuff and coaching you through that. I believe everyone needs a coach.

David:
I have three.

Dr. Pompa:
Coach for your tennis game or a golf game. How much more important for your health. It's obviously vital, in my mind.

Warren:
You're my health coach, Dr. Pompa, which is nice. For all you, be jealous. Dr. Pompa is writing up my New Year health plan. We've been working on it. Actually, I have it right down here in a folder. Some testing we're doing and some diet variation strategies, some detox, that new detox system we talked about last week on the show, episode 48. I'm going to be doing that more consistently. Not just sporadically, but on a scheduled basis. If it's not written down, it's not real, guys. You really need to, if you're going to do some of these things, put it down on paper what you're going to do, when you're going to eat. Create that schedule. Make it real in your life. It'll make a massive difference. This is a great topic, Dr. Pompa.

Last night, I was out to dinner. Again, I know we need to end. It's 10:30, but just think it was important. I'm out with a middle-aged couple, 55 to 57, something like that, her and her husband. They're our neighbors. They were talking about, his mom and dad are so fearful of heart disease. They have this cardiologist doctor that has put so much fear into them, they said they're literally brainwashed. Low fat and not eating anything. They barely eat, they're frail—his mom is weak. She has no energy. She's 100 pounds, but she's so scared. They take their cholesterol pill, their statin drug, religiously. They believe that that's going to keep them alive and away from heart disease.

These folks don't eat a clean diet, but they're wise people. She should be eating a stick of butter, a stick of real butter, like our great grandparents did. We try to explain to her that her mom and dad ate a high fat diet, and they were healthy and never had heart disease and died a natural death. What are you doing? You're sick and miserable, taking your statin drug, eating a calorie-restrictive diet, eating bad carbs, low fat, and bad margarine. They're sick. It's an epidemic. For us, it might seem normal. Of course you'd eat this way. The science says so. The world is fearful and scared, because it does drive those drug sales.

Dr. Pompa:
Listen to those experts. They will set aside common sense and things that they know, right? The experts are telling them to take these medication, the experts are telling them that if they don't, they'll die. The experts don't even believe in cause and effect. How do I know that? At some of the top cardiology units in hospitals around the country—Phil and I had this conversation yesterday, there's McDonalds and fast food, literally, right in the same building.

Look, if the experts realized cause and effect, they would absolutely have a problem with that, but they don't. They really believe it's just down to bad luck and genetics, simply bad luck. You've got heart disease, heart attack in genetics, but these pills will keep you alive. We could go on a whole other subject. I'll get fired up and very angry, because people are, they're starving their brain of the very thing that makes it work. Cholesterol. Fat, right? Oh, boy. That's a whole other show, looking at what the experts say, and who are the experts.

David:
Now you've got me craving an avocado. Good fat.

Warren:
Everyone should get off the show right now, go get an avocado—go to your local grocery store. Avocados are easy to find. Get yourself a big avocado. Maybe put an egg in it. Stick it in the oven, and have yourself an avocado-egg breakfast, or intermittent fasting mid after day lunch.

Dr. Pompa:
Alright.

Warren:
That was my health tip.

Dr. Pompa:
Vary your diet. Go 180°, man. 180° opposite of what everyone else is saying, that's for sure.

Warren:
Share truth. Be bold.

Dr. Pompa:
Everyone's making a right, make a left. I tell my kids all the time. It's typically the right way.

Warren:
Thanks, Dr. Pompa. Thanks, David. Have a great week, everyone.

David:
Thanks, Dr. Pompa. Thanks, Warren. Bye-bye.

Warren:
Bye.