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46: Top 5 Health Breakthroughs and Health Strategies

Transcript of Episode 46: Top 5 Health Breakthroughs and Healing Strategies

With Dr. Daniel Pompa and Warren Phillips


Warren: We're live! Welcome to Cellular Healing TV, episode 46. Happy New Year. We had amazing, recap, an amazing year, and that's what we want to do. Cellular Healing TV was a full year of shows this year, transforming lives across the world. Dr. Pompa has landed on some major breakthrough strategies. I broke through by not playing the show live and repeat, so that everyone got to hear it. Congratulations to me this year for not doing it for the first time. I found a way. I so appreciate you guys. Some of these strategies have been life transforming, not only to Dr. Pompa personally, because he lives whatever he says. So do I, so does our team, so does of our group of doctors around the country and now around the world, and their clients as well. We have a testing ground to find out which strategies actually cause a massive impact in your life, and the things that are concerned most to you, like your energy, your skin, your hair, how you look, how you feel, degenerative conditions that are plaguing America and the world. We found five huge ones. God really laid this on Dr. Pompa's heart to remind us of some of the major breakthrough strategies that were new discoveries to us. Some things that were old, some things that were new, but all coming together for an amazing, powerful 2014 health, weight loss, and energy strategies. Dr. Pompa, let's get at it. I'll support you as much as I can. I'm going to be the lone host today. Dr. David Asarnow is in surgery with his daughter. Not a major one.

Dr. Pompa: Dental surgery. It was easy to pick these five, Warren, because number one, if we just look at the amount of hits that we get on a topic, whether it's a video or one of these shows—I've written articles about most of these things. You get a certain amount of attention. Boy, these five were the attention-getters. As a matter of fact, I probably answer more emails and questions about these five topics than any, so we know it hit home. This was huge this year in the research. These were huge this year in changing people's lives. We've had stacks of testimonies. Let's get right at it. Keto-adaptation. My gosh, wrote two articles (here and here).

Warren: Number one.

Dr. Pompa: Yep, number one. Keto-adaptation, for those of you who read the articles, great, you know what I'm talking about. For those of you who haven't, go read them! We'll say this. It probably, Warren, got the most attention for weight-loss resistance, right? People are able to break through in areas hormonally and with weight loss that they weren't able to break through. I have to say this. Another area that's been near and dear to my heart, and you're going to hear some amazing testimony, either next week or the week after, is this area. This is a big thing. Right now, someone just came out, and—Dr. Seyfried, he is a Boston College leading researcher, and he said, “Look, it's not a genetic disorder. I know that's what's out there in the medical community.” This guy is a big researcher, right? He's a researcher. He said that it is a metabolic disorder, and he said a keto diet beats chemo every time in every study they look at. Why aren't we hearing more about these studies? When this guy and others—I just said that because this was an article that just came out towards the end of the year, but throughout the year, more and more articles were showing that keto-adaptation beats chemo. Look, he was asked the question, “Why haven't we heard more? Why is it that the research isn't going crazy over this?” Simple answer, he said. There's no money in it for drug companies. This guy took a major step forward. He's not a conservative doctor in the sense of alternative therapies. He is a mainstream doctor, typically would be using chemo. Why does keto-adaptation work for it? We have a reason why it works for weight loss so well. Look, real simple Warren, we always talk about how the cells can only use two things for energy, sugar or fat. Keto-adaptation, simply put, you're forcing the cell to change its energy source to mostly being a fat burner, okay? Why is that significant? For this it's significant because the mutated cells rely on what? Strictly glucose. They have no ability to utilize fat. Therefore, you're allowing your immune system to get a hold because you're starving out the mutated cells. So simple. If he's right, and if a lot of these doctors are right, this is a metabolic disorder, meaning that it's a cellular energy issue, in part, then this is a major toll that has gone ignored in the medical community. The testimonies. We're talking about a gentleman, a client of mine, Stage IV pancreatic. Stage IV, Warren. That's a death sentence.

Warren: Always. Yep, always. You have six months to live. You have two months to live. If you do chemo, you may live a little bit longer, but usually—and most, not all, if you do chemo, you would've died in the same amount of time with or without it, in a lot of the research that I've read. Again, I'm not an expert, but wow. It's a death sentence. They say, get your papers in order, your last will and testament, get your finances in order, your arrangements. You're dead. That's what they tell you. Again, that's a fear tactic, a lot of the times, to get you to do chemo. Just making a quick point, we've had personal friends, and I think we can share this now publicly—Jordan Rubin, who was diagnosed. He shared it publicly. No one knew that, because man, here's the healthiest guy on the planet, who overcome—was it colitis or Crohn's? Then later, wasn't too long ago, one of the most well known health experts in the world was now diagnosed with terminal. I can't remember what type it was, Dr. Pompa, but he had so much pressure from some of the greatest experts in the world, because he is connected to whoever he wants in the wealth and wellness industry, and some of the best leaders in the medical industry as well—but the medical side. Most of them said, “Hey, with your sickness, you should do chemo.” He was getting a lot of pressure, and they were making fun of him saying, “Yeah, the health guy that now has sickness. How do you like it now? Did everything right and you still have it. Shame on you for doing all this health and wellness stuff and you're still going to die.” That was what they were saying. He beat it. It's amazing the power in some of these natural health and healing strategies for these terminal cases.

Dr. Pompa: We didn't just do—again, it wasn't just the diet. He did a lot of the cellular healing things obviously, this client Terry that I was just referring to. Look, the bottom line is… Terry is not only sickness free without doing chemo. Terry's life is completely changed. You will hear that story. When you look at keto-adaptation, this is why it works so well. Obviously, you're switching the field that that the cell is using for burning fat. Why is that significant? Why does it work for so many hormone conditions as well? See, fat burns cleaner than does glucose, meaning that—like putting wood in your fire and you see a lot of smoke. When you turn on the natural gas on your stove, you don't see smoke. It burns very clean. Fat burns like natural gas, and glucose burns like wood. Lot of waste, lot of smoke. Why is that important? See, the cell has to deal with that oxidative stress. The cell has to deal with that waste. When we burn a cleaner source, now the cell can utilize some of those things that are put in place to deal with the smoke of burning glucose, so to speak, the waste of burning glucose, and it can put it towards inflammation, which is the number one cause of all diseases that we know of, right? Therefore, we get a down regulation of inflammation. We're going to talk about this, because I know one of the big things is the number one question is, is some of the people would go into keto-adaptation. They either wouldn't adapt after months and months. The average person keto adapts, meaning they become an efficient fat burner after about two or three weeks to a month. Some people wouldn't. We've learned a lot. We know that certain conditions like a thyroid condition or other toxic conditions can keep somebody from entering into that fat burning. I learned some tricks, and we're going to talk about it in number three. I learned a lot of tricks through the last year or so, here. Keto-adaptation, you become an efficient fat burner.

Warren: That's the big breakthrough number one of 2014, is implementing that, that lives that were transformed. We wrote two articles on this, Dr. Pompa, highly viewed, highly sought after, shared all over the world, huge articles. Huge find. Again, we're just going over and we're spending ten minutes on each. Go to our website, go to DrPompa.com, for those that are just listening and not able to—

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, exactly. I don't want to go through how to do it, because the articles are written. Just go there and you can see how to.

Warren: In one of the search boxes on the site, type in, “keto,” K-E-T-O, and then the two articles will be the first two that pop up for you guys. Keto-adaptation. If you're looking for a health strategy breakthrough and a new habit forming, or new concept, to get your life back, if you're watching this and you have a terminal condition, diabetes—this is great research on this. You'll read about them in the articles. Go there and apply something that's truly going to transform your life in 2015 from a strategy that transformed many lives for us in 2014. Keto-adaptation: number one health breakthrough strategy.

Dr. Pompa: Let me give them the second most asked question about it. How does it differ from Atkins? I explain that in the article, but just know this. It is obviously high fat, but it is not high protein. It is not high protein. Matter of fact, I talk about why high protein can actually cause other issues and other problems. I don't believe in a high protein diet. Also, Dr. Atkins never distinguished between really good fats and we do. We talk about that in the article. Let's go, man. Number two!

Warren: Number two. Want me to put it up here?

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, go ahead. This is one of the things that really affected my life. I've been doing this longer than a year, but ironically enough, Warren, I saw more benefits from intermittent fasting

Warren: Intermittent fasting, yep.

Dr. Pompa: I think even when I first started it. I don't know why that is. Obviously, some things amazing happened hormonally with intermittent fasting. I do intermittent fasting daily, myself. Let me be very clear. There's articles written on this, and Warren can guide you there. There's block type of intermittent fasting, where we intermittent fast for four days, maybe ten days. We have many fasts that we do with whey water. Also, another topic today, using stock and beef stock. There's multiple ways to intermittent fast. We love doing those beef stock fasts and those whey water fasts, doing them for four days extended period of times. People do those multiple times during the year with amazing, amazing healing success. Again, read the article. However, what has affected my life is daily intermittent fasting. Warren, you too.

Warren: Huge.

Dr. Pompa: Again, you can read the articles, but in a nutshell, it's this. I just heard Dr. Oz—is that the guy? Yeah, Dr. Oz, on TV yesterday, telling people to eat their biggest meal of the day in their morning and their lunch, and then the smallest at dinner. You realize we're the only country in the world that buys into that philosophy? Every other country—hence the word continental breakfast, where either they don't eat breakfast or it's so small that it really doesn't matter. For years, to the Romans and Greeks and all these cultures, dinner was their biggest meal. We're opposite. Intermittent fasting is where we skip breakfast completely. We stay in a fasting mode through the night and we don't eat. We eat a very small meal around, we'll say, lunchtime. I try to push it out to 2:00 or 3:00. Then we eat a larger dinner. What is the concept here? Simply put, every study shows that it raises growth hormone massively. I think that's why I saw greater benefit literally the longer I have been in it, where I saw these massive anti-aging effects. Warren, you know that I got leaner as a 49, 50 year old than I did even when I was in my 20's. It would not have been possible without intermittent fasting.

Warren: Yeah, you anti-aged incredible this year because of that. David did as well, David, huge, because of intermittent fasting. Myself, I put on a ton of muscle this year because of intermittent fasting and, of course, doing the burst type or high intensity training along with it. It's been a major health breakthrough for me, personally.  Transformed my life, saved me time, energy level sustainable. It threw me into keto-adaptation several times throughout the year, just doing intermittent fasting alone without even doing the keto diet. I'm jumping into a keto diet, so I'm applying a 2014 strategy early in 2015. I'm going to do a really high fat and get into ketosis again for the New Year. The reason I'm doing that is because—think about it, guys. You've got to have major emotional ties to why you're even doing these things. Think about that. If it's like, “Oh, I just want to get healthy,” well, there's major reasons why I want to do it. The major reason is so I can travel more and have—I still work so hard. I have a very high-demand life, but I'm not going to make excuses about how I'm just tired or stressed out. I'm trying to do a lot of strategies on my health, stress management, things like that, so that I can have more time for my family, that I have more energy to even work out more, so that my brain can move at a higher capacity, so that I can adapt to stress when stress comes my way, which it will in all of our lives, I don't overreact to that stress. These diet programs add that to your life. You say you want to put on muscle. You need to eat these diets. It's not just working out, because it's hormones that dictate whether you put on muscle or lose muscle. Sometimes you can be working out, going on the treadmill, and you're actually going against the very goal you want. These adaptations—number one, keto-adaptation. Intermittent fasting. They actually work together. Correct, Dr. Pompa, at times? We'll get there later in the show, so I'll shut up for now and let you go.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, they actually work very much together. We do all these things, and we'll talk about what you just said, as far as going in and out, on ketosis and why that can be beneficial. Yeah, the intermittent fasting, some people just eat one meal a day. Some very big bodybuilders do this. People think, I'm going to lose muscle, right? That was the old way of thinking. It's simply not true. It is all about hormones. The optimization of growth hormone is so good that you see the difference in your skin, you do see the difference in your hair, you do see the difference in how your body burns fat. When you become an efficient fat burner, you burn fat during this fast, which is amazing. Again, when you don't have energy, or when you're not feeding your body, then guess what your body has to feed on? Its fat stores. See Warren, the whole thing is, does six meals a day work? It does, for people who don't burn fat, right? Then they're not going to burn their muscle and it pushes their metabolism a little bit, so it works on the short term. We know that. However, in the long run, you're never going to dig into those deep fat stores, because you don't give your body a chance to burn fat. Intermittent fasting does that, because you raise growth hormone and testosterone, and then you become this efficient fat burner. You're burning it around the clock for 16 to 18 hours. You're utilizing your fat that you're stored, so therefore, you become leaner and leaner. Again, the longer you do it, the more efficient fat burner you become. It doesn't happen overnight. I can tell you that. Some people have to keep this going for a while to see the benefits. I'll tell you, I did see certain benefits right away. However, I can tell you the longer I did it, the more benefits that I saw. Intermittent fasting daily, it works. It really does work.

Warren: That's why I got so passionate about it, Dr. Pompa. It transformed my life last year. Without it, I literally wouldn't have achieved the business success, the life success, the personal success I had. I'm saying this from a meaningful place in my heart. Intermittent fasting transformed my life, and I know it transformed your life. You're the front-runner. You do all this stuff first. Then I look at you, just like anyone else that I observe, and it takes a commitment. I just see how lean you get. I saw the energy you had. I see you sleeping four hours, three or four nights in a row because of travel and work and the demands of five children and the stress that brings. You have more energy, more focus, than a man nine years younger than you. I just turned 40, just December 27th, just five days ago. I saw the benefits to you, so I immediately jumped on that wagon and I haven't got off it since. It's been an amazing year. Intermittent fasting has been that for me. What a blessing. You can go to our website, again, DrPompa.com, type in just “fast,” and you'll see—the first article that comes up will be intermittent fasting, which is going to come up here in a minute, but it'll also say intermittent fasting. That's an incredible article. One of the most shared and liked articles in the year 2014. Rightfully so. Major life transformation.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, and I think we've done some past shows on these topics, right? Go back to—we have a podcast. If you want to just listen to the past shows while you're exercising, you can do that. By the way, I want to bring up—you brought up about exercise. First of all, intermittent fasting alone, in males, is shown to raise growth hormone, like a 2,000% increase. Talk about anti-aging. It also hits the SERP 1 gene, which causes you to live longer, and also, there's an amazing effect on telomere length, which is the only biological clock that we know of. The shorter your telomeres get, the closer to death. I've been doing a lot of research that I'm going to be sharing with you soon, in upcoming shows, about telomeres. Here's the thing. When you do this, you can even get more bang for your buck. Exercise in the morning, on an empty stomach, while you're intermittent fasting, and you get this major spike in growth hormone. Why is that important? It's a way to get lean. It's a way to anti-age. I'm telling you, it works. The old adage of exercise and then eat a half hour later, I promoted that for so many years. However, when you exercise and do high intensity burst training that we recommend, now you're burning up all your glucose, you're forcing your body to become a fat burner, and you're forcing your body in this hormonal state. Then after the exercise, you don't have to eat. Your body will just feed from the fat and your growth hormone goes up, so you spare your muscle. It's not what we thought, that you would lose muscle unless you fed protein 30 minutes after you exercise. It's old thinking. I tell you, I was wrong years ago when I would tell people that. It is old thinking. The fact is, is you maintain your muscle and burn your fat, so if you want more bang for your buck, exercise, high-intensity training, while your intermittent fasting, and eat a few hours later. You may feel dizzy and woozy in the beginning because you're not an efficient fat burner yet, but that will change. We'd better go to number three to stay on our pace, Warren.

Warren: Okay, but one tip with keto-adaptation and intermittent fasting. A big part of keto-adaptation, obviously, and intermittent fasting—and I know my brother asked me this question last night, and he's watching right now. What are the five top fats that you can eat? I know they're in the articles, but what are the five top fats that you can eat that can support both keto-adaptation and intermittent fasting?

Dr. Pompa: First of all, again, we talked about in some of the past shows—I'm going to blow some people out of the water. Saturated fat is probably the most important out of all of them, and cholesterol, right? Shocker! Aren't those the ones that are bad fats? When I say bad fats, people immediately think of saturated fat and cholesterol. Listen to our past shows on those topics. Read my articles, and you'll see why they're the most important fats. Why? The hormone receptors that are on the cell are stabilized by saturated fat and cholesterols. Multiple studies show that increases in those fats actually improve diabetes threefold, weight-loss resistance, thyroid conditions, and the list goes on and on. Those fats, for sure.  I have what I call, and you'll read about, my 2-2-2 rule. Coconut oil, medium chain triglycerides (MCT), these are really important. Ingest those. Two tablespoons a day. Also, the other two is two tablespoons of grass-fed butter—really important. It has cholesterols and saturated fats. Obviously, good, organic, grass-fed cheese would fit into that category. Those are key fats. Medium chain triglycerides, you can buy them. We sell them on our website, straight in glass bottles. Warren: MCT Oil, yeah.

Dr. Pompa: MCT oil, right. These things help you become fat burners. Those are some really important fats that we need. Saturated fats—olive oil, avocados—I could go down a list of 400, but those are the ones that most people love.

Warren: Those are awesome, and eggs of course.

Dr. Pompa: Eggs have saturated fats and cholesterols and all of those  perfect protein.

Warren: Yeah, so for all of us who want the how-to's, go to the website. There's a few of the fats and foods that really make ketogentic adaptation and great foods for intermittent fasting. That high fat diet concept is key. Let's go on to number three. Posted, there it is, in a different color. The Stress and Rest Hypothesis. This is something that I'm just really starting to understand and apply in my life. Dr. Pompa's been, again, forefront all over this hypothesis and how important it is and how it even works in with keto-adaptation, intermittent fasting, exercise, and life. Stress Rest Hypothesis, number three. I got ahead of myself there, but number three, 2014 strategies that have been massively life changing.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. One of the things—and I just did a video recently, when I was in Jackson Hole. Did some research while I was there, really researching the diet of this area in the West. It was a diet that was based on stress and rest, meaning that they would have these times when they didn't have as much food, and then they would have times where they had plenty, and then they'd have times where they survived just on buffalo and elk and deer, where they just consumed proteins and fats. Then spring would come, and then all of a sudden, they'd be eating more vegetables in their diet. What I learned is most cultures were this way. Our bodies are set up to deal with stress and rest. Matter of fact, think about it, Warren, from a lifting or a bodybuilding or an exercise premise. We stress, and then the most important thing every trainer will tell you, is that it's rest is where you make all your gains. Stress and rest. Why does it work? Our bodies are always fighting homeostasis. It gets used to things—energy pathways do certain things. Here's the thing. The body always wants to store fat, Warren. Why does it do that? It wants to survive, right, so it wants to store, it wants to hold onto, energy, aka fat stores. If we switch things around and break things, what happens is our bodies never have that chance to become so efficient that it's storing fat again. The first place I learned this, obviously, is exercise. The second place was diet. When we realized that people would be in ketosis—and we said all three of these first three tie together, and I'll explain that more in a minute. When people go into ketosis, two things, we realized, started happening. They were becoming efficient fat burners. Then they would start burning fat or they would start doing this looser water-type fat. In my research, I realized that there's two things that take place. Number one, the body will start to take water and plug fat cells. Why does it do that? It wants to survive. It wants to store, hold on to a little bit of fat, just in case the stress time comes from lack of food, right? It starts to want to hold on, becomes too efficient at burning fat. It does something else. It shuts down, from the cell—from the DNA, it creates a little bit of insulin resistance. Keto-adaptation has taken some hits saying, “It causes insulin resistance.” No it doesn't. Not the insulin resistance that we know of, like diabetes. It causes it because it shuts down or blunts the insulin receptor just slightly so you start to burn fats—or I should say it this way. You store a little more fat. It wants to survive. Homeostasis. It's trying to adapt. It's trying to survive, and it wants to become a more efficient fat burner. We realize that once a week, if you hit it hard with a lot of carbs, your body goes, “Okay, I'm not starving anymore,” and you break that process. You're creating a small Stress and Rest Hypothesis. You're creating—kind of what they did, modern-day Indians and the cowboys back in the day. We're just doing the ones with we have plenty, and the body says, “I'm okay.” Then we don't. When it's only burning fat, it may think that we don't have a lot of energy, because there's not a lot of sugar or carbohydrates. It's stress and rest. Then, Warren, this is what I really learned. I would have these people who weren't able to break into ketosis and become these efficient fat burners. Four months, five months,  “I'm still not burning fat.” Okay, go back to a regular Cellular Healing Diet. Still low carb, but not putting you in ketosis. The articles explain the difference. Here's what happened. They would go on the higher carb diets—not really high carb. It's low carb diet still. However, they would go, “Oh my gosh, I feel so much better. I have energy. My brain's working better.” Now they're feeding glucose. Then they would be on that a few months. It would seem like a lot of those benefits would fade away. I just would say, “Go back into ketosis again.” Now they would start doing ketosis, and all of a sudden, they adapt. They become fat burners. It was the switching from one diet to the next, very similar to the Indians in this country, very similar to the Eskimos, all these tribes who have one form of diet, switch to another form of diet, it breaks this homeostasis. It breaks this body balance. It fools the body. All of a sudden, they would start to lose weight again. Very similar to what I call my 5-1-1 rule. Within ketosis, we would do five days of very low carbs, one day of no food, just fasting, and one day of carb loading. That's what you do on a weekly basis to get this Stress and Rest theory down. Then also, you can do it for months, just like you did, Warren. You were in ketosis, you left ketosis, and now you're going back in. Guess what I did for winter? I broke out of ketosis. All summer, to be efficient on my bike so I didn't have to eat—my bodies an efficient fat burner, I could ride for miles and miles and miles while I'm in ketosis. Works amazing. I just become this fat-burning machine. Now winter's here, I'm fueling up with some more carbs again. Mostly healthy carbs, of course, but I am absolutely seeing a different change in my body. In spring again, I'm going to evolve back into full ketosis. This dietary change is something that nobody talks about but yet our ancestors did it because they had to do it. If we emulate it, we get the amazing hormone benefits, and we get the benefit of watching our body adapt. Amazing, amazing principle, Warren. I've been so excited about it. I've been doing it with these people who cannot lose weight, and I've seen amazing results when we switched the types of diet that we do. One diet, all the time—I think it's bad thinking. Again, I would've said—

Warren: That was us.

Dr. Pompa: No doubt. Listen, I was always—I do better in a ketogenic state. I do better on high fat diets. That's my genetics. However, when I change it up, just like exercise, man, the results have been spectacular.

Warren: Yeah, and it makes so much sense. You're working with nature. Nature's like that. There's times of stress, there's times of rest. The cold for the trees. Everything is in that homeostasis, and that stress is so important. Foods change. Food sources change. Our bodies were built, our DNA is designed, for stress and rest; for times of famine; for times of feasting. This also applies—and I know the Stress and Rest Hypothesis is key, and there's science that proves it, for the human body, for achievement. You can't just sit around and not stress out your life by making change. You don't want to do so much stress that you can't achieve that goal, but you have to put yourself in situations that are stressful so that you grow and once again adapt. Everyone, my dad always told me this, and I'll give kudos to my father, he's like, “Warren, when you get older, you won't care so much about the things you care about now.” Why is that? That's the Stress and Rest Hypothesis. You're like, “I can deal with that stress.” You have one kid, and how do you deal with four? If you gave four kids all at the same time, God said, “Here's four,”—that's why sometimes, if you do in vitro transplant and you have four kids, it's an overly stressful time, so you have to hire people to help you. It's just not normal and natural. I bless the people who do that and get children. However, you were not designed to do large amounts of stress. If you look at how does somebody over in Africa, who they deal with these major wars and strife in life, and they just adapt. It's because for decades, they've been dealing with this, so their family is attuned and trained to those types of stresses, and they can adapt to it. If we would go over there and deal with the stress in some of these others countries, we would fold and fall apart. That's why some people can get into a concentration camp, I've read some of the books on the Holocaust, and some of them made it and some of them didn't. It's the ones that could adapt to that stress that did, and the one that didn't—there's this personal thing that's also dear to my heart this year, is adapting, and not allowing certain stresses in my life so I can adapt better to others, but also to keep introducing purposeful stress so that I can grow as an individual. The more important thing, what you're going to say, is vacationing, spending time with family—so important in the Stress and Rest Hypothesis. You're more of an expert on that than I am. Share with that one, Dr. Pompa.

Dr. Pompa: I instinctively live my life from a really—I can stress it. I exercise. Man, when I exercise, no one has to tell me to go harder. I go to failure. I have always intuitively—I don't know. Maybe it was from reading I did—know that rest is best. I watch a lot of athletes who hit the wall. They don't rest enough, right? In our personal lives, like you said, it's the same thing. We work hard, but then you've got to rest. Our minds function the same as our muscles and same as our body, so why would we think diet's no different? Of course, when we stress our muscles, the key is rest. When we stress our mind, we utilize and then we rest. If you don't rest, you're going to burn out. The stress and rest applies emotionally and physically, and it applies to our diets. Change it up. Stress and rest. When you're doing this days of fasting, that's a stressful thing that your body has to adapt. You're forcing the stress. Then, you give it plenty, and then it's a rest period, right? It's just that switching it up, stress and rest, whether it's you're doing it weekly with the 5-1-1 rule that I talk about in the ketosis articles or whether you're doing it for months and then changing your diet again, it still is stress and rest. Burst training—stress and rest. I love it. We could talk about this for hours.

Warren: Yeah, it's great.

Dr. Pompa: I believe it is how we achieve higher goals. Whether you're an athlete or not, we have to stress it, we have to rest it. When I found that principle that worked with diet and it was really supported by our ancestors, I got really excited. Folks, switch up your diets. If you've been on a diet for too long, whatever it is, change it. Watch the results. Change it back. Genetically, all of us do better on certain diets, no doubt, but I believe we all do best on change. Stress, rest, change it up. You'll see the benefits.

Warren: So simple, but yet so brilliant. Strategy number three from 2014. Let's go to number four. Another—okay I'll stop.

Dr. Pompa: Those three principles—apply them together, and watch what happens in your life. Go into keto-adaptation intermittent fasting while you do it, because keto-adaptation puts you into a fat burner. Now, when you're in that intermittent fasting, you're burning fat. Those two work magically together. Then, add the Stress and Rest Hypothesis. The 5-1-1 one rule I talk about in the articles. All three of those are like this. Please, you'll receive all three of those principles together. It'll change your life. I guarantee it. It's absolutely amazing. Okay, so let's talk about number four, which is probably the most media attention this year, I believe.

Warren: Bone Broth fasting or using bone broth as part of a fast.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, and again, you can utilize—I said the first three, but again, you can utilize this in intermittent fasting, right? We put people on the bone stock fast for four days. I'll tell you, their skin changes. We do it to heal the gut, right? Invariably, they'll say, Dr. Pompa, you're not going to believe this, but my skin and hair are amazing. Why is that? Bone broth, bone stock, something that's been around for centuries, has type II collagen, which heals the skin, the hair, the nails. It does, it works, but it also heals the gut. Warren, this became so popular this year in 2014.

Warren: Yeah, it's huge.

Dr. Pompa: A top chef, and I mentioned it in the video, opened up a drive thru bone stuck, where they're giving grass fed bone stock cups. People pull up and they get their cup of bone stock, and then they're going to work drinking their bone stock. Of course, he obviously makes some amazing bone stock. It's loaded with type II collagen. We utilize it for a different reason. We utilize bone stock to starve down all gut bacteria and then to reinoculate with good bacteria. We could do a whole show on the bacteria in the gut and how that applies to your hormones, how that applies to your weight loss, how that applies to how your brain works. Every hormone, these bacteria in your gut regulate these hormones. When you don't have enough of them, your immune system drops, your hormones get dysregulated. By starving down all bacteria and then adding in a bunch of good, has been a strategy that has worked for us for very, very challenging clients in different conditions. Bone stock fasting works multiple ways. Warren, we've written many articles on it. You did it on video showing how to do it, how you made it. We have many different recipes.

Warren: That's one of the highest—it's just a random video that I put together with my daughter, and it got massive views on YouTube because of the popularity. We were doing it, and then of course, some of our other health experts out there, Mercola threw out an article on that. Again, this has come and gone in the media, but it's just like any other strategy, guys. We're sharing these with you. Some of them have been around, but they've definitely came back and been reapplied. Like, why did I forget—stop doing that in my life? Those are the sorts of things—and why didn't I know about this? There's so many different things in your life that you just will never discover, and you wish that—I wish someone would've told me about this investment into Apple. I would've made millions of dollars. It's the same thing with these things that you're listening to today. “Why didn't I hear this before?” Not everyone gets the opportunity to hear them. That's why we do Cellular Healing TV and share it with the world. You're learning thing that are gems, in our lives, in the lives of thousands of people, but it's not common information. We're bringing uncommon information to common people through CellularHealing.tv. It's massive changes in your life. We mentioned in bone broth fasting, the microbiome and guts and all that, that was more of a 2013 breakthrough for us, but we really applied it, and Dr. Pompa applied it heavily, through our doctor's network and into his personal health coaching and health participant clients. Bone broth fasting has transformed lives. Scleroderma just stopping it in its tracks and putting an end to a state of—backing it off in a major way. A lot of autoimmune conditions, the bacteria are key to that, and it was a major breakthrough. If you're hearing this, man, read these articles. Educate yourself. They're gems for your life from 2014. They can incredibly change your 2015 and give you your life back or the life of your dreams.

Dr. Pompa: Warren, I'll say this, too. If you don't understand—for those watching, or if you have friends, family members who have some weird condition that they're on medication for and the doctor's not sure what it is or what's going on or you're on medication and you still don't feel well, read the article on autoimmune answers. Put it into the search, “autoimmune.” Why? You will see that most of these conditions that we don't know what's going on are simply your body attacking itself, driving cellular inflammation, aka autoimmune. Read the article. Matter of fact, you know what you'll see in that article? All these things that we just talked about? I talk about them within that article within the conditions. Many thyroid conditions. Many conditions where people just have fatigue, brain fog, and all these types of things. It's autoimmune. It's autoimmune, and I talk about that. Read the article. One of the best articles of the year. I almost snuck it in the top five, just because it did mean so much to so many people, and we had so many breakthroughs. I believe that was a God thing, just even how—the teaching analogy of the three-legged stool with autoimmune.

Warren: Yeah, and we have previous shows on that if you go to our YouTube page. Through our website, just click on YouTube. On our page, look for “autoimmune microbiome.” Autoimmune is auto and then the word immune. I-M-U—whoa.

Dr. Pompa: I-M-M-U-N-E.

Warren: I-M-M-U-N-E. Again, that's why I spelled it for everybody. There's a lot of not good spellers out there.

Dr. Pompa: I just said yesterday, and I don't want to digress here, but so many—I was having a conversation with my son, and I said, “Gosh, we all have challenges in life, right?” Again, stress or rest, they either make us better or they make us weaker, right? I was saying how much my dyslexia as a kid, not being able to read until sixth grade, I see so many of my insecurities now, as an adult, came out of that. So many of my responses that I don't like about myself came out of something as simple as not being able to read and adapting because I didn't fit in and I was embarrassed. We were discussing, because someone that we know, they didn't have a parent. That causes abandonment issues and creates issues later in life. Not immediately, but later in life, typically. I'm thinking, gosh, look at my life. I had a great family. I had a great mom, dad, sisters, amazing, growing up. Yet, I couldn't read, and it jacked me up, man! I'm still healing. We're all wounded together, but we heal together, too. That's awesome. Number five, we'd better get to it. It's a big one.

Warren: Yeah, I had it spelled out, but it took out my face on the show here. Number five is the understanding and the epidemic of genetically modified organism, GMOs. Huge, huge science that came out this year on that subject.

Dr. Pompa: I said this in the video, I want to give the credit this year, if I had to put in the number one scientist I believe deserves an award for her research in the last two years, but I think it got more attention this year. It's Stephanie Seneff. She is the leading scientist, the senior scientist at MIT, and she's had just many, many articles, research papers, come out about GMOs. More specifically, cholesterol sulfate and the importance of cholesterol. Stating her comments are, “Heart disease is actually a cholesterol deficiency.” Oh man, 180° philosophy right there, right? Her papers are that this glyphosate, this chemical that we're spraying on everything that's not organic, every grain that you sow, whether it's oats, wheat, barley. You name it, they're spraying it with this chemical. It's the active ingredient in Roundup. They're doing it just to shrivel it up a little bit. It's called desiccation. Therefore, it's easier to harvest, which sends profits through the roof. It works. The problem is this. When they spray it right before harvest, the levels that we ingest go through the roof. Why is that a problem? She talks about how it depletes us in something called cholesterol sulfate. This is how your brain works, this is how your hormones work, this is how your gut works. She's talking about this glyphosate issue as causing massive brain problems, neurodegenerative diseases, linking it to Parkinson's, Type 2 Diabetes. In all of these conditions that we're seeing go crazy, leaky gut, autoimmune, all these things, she's saying glyphosate—autism. She's saying it's at the forefront. It's the reason why we're seeing—as glyphosate started in our food system—we've seen glyphosate introduced, and we've seen all these conditions skyrocket with the increased use of glyphosate. It is hand in hand parallel, skyrocketing together. She has shown the link between this chemical that most of us are eating every day—if you're eating conventional grains, if you're eating GMO grains, the levels are huge. Again, that's the thing. Showing that this is massive. GMO, yes, it's bad for our DNA. GMO causes problems, but when we add this glyphosate problem in, we get a double whammy. I believe this topic right here is the number one reason why people are not feeling well in the last five years. The amount of glyphosate we're being exposed to, our children, has gone through the roof. Leaky gut, food allergies, these types of allergies, food intolerances. This, according to her research and others, this is why. You have got to get this chemical out of your diet. You have to get GMOs out of your diet. That means no corn that's not 100% organic, no soybeans, no alfalfa. These things are going crazy. We used to think it as just that, but now that we're spraying all of the grain with this chemical, we have to be more conscious than ever to get 100% organic grains if you're going to eat grain. I believe we should avoid as much grain as possible, for multiple reasons. This is a huge topic. Go back and watch some of the shows that we've done on this topic.

Warren: Number five, GMOs. They do the commercials. Why are they doing those commercials? I don't know if you've seen those guys on TV. They're saying it to get you to accept them. It's not because they love you. It's not because they want to transform the world, although some people in that organization, Monsanto, probably have great hearts. The reason they're running that media and that campaign and that PR work is they want you to accept it. Where all other countries—and they ran that show on national TV all over. Spent probably billions of dollars right when all these other countries that banned GMOs in their countries. All the publicity on Facebook hit, wouldn't you know, right after. Just like a typical government move. Just like, if you ever watch “The Hunger Games,” they try to dumb you down, try to get you to drink the Kool-Aid, hypnotize you, essentially, to believe that these things are safe, and they're absolutely not safe. It's poison to your body. It'll cause genetic snips, meaning genetic alteration in the code of your body. It'll be passed on to your children. That idea—major epidemic moving forward. I believe, through the power of the people, which means you and I, Cellular Healing TV followers, all the other health experts out there that are pushing this message forward with us, they—there was a thing there. It scared me. They are making major breakthroughs for all of us. We can change it. We can make sure that they're banned. Monsanto's smart enough to come up with another way to make money not by killing us. I'm happy for their business, great, but they're killing people, and it has to change. It's a major, major breakthrough this year. That's why, if you call, that's why it happened on national media. They were trying to—it was so big, the negative push, that they were trying to overwhelm it with how good they are and how good they are for you and how it's transformed hunger and all this other stuff. Bunch of lies. GMOs—a major, major issue.

Dr. Pompa: Monsanto has one of the most successful companies on the planet. They are the ones that make genetically modified organisms, genetically modified crops. They're the ones that have really cornered the market there. By the way, they're the ones who create the chemical glypohsate. You have to understand, what they're doing is they're genetically altering, putting a gene in, to get a crop to be able to withstand their chemical. If the farmers spray too much glyphosate, it would kill the crop. It would have an effect on the crop. Now we have GMO, or we would call them Roundup Ready crops. What that means is they genetically alter them where you can spray as much as this poison as you want on them and the crop doesn't die. What does that do for us? That means we're getting even more of this chemical called glyphosate. Listen, Stephanie Seneff, her research is showing that glyphosate is ruining our brains, our guts, and causing all of these things that we're talking about. This is why this is a big topic. Listen, you can do your own experiment. You can take your group of pigs—well you've like pigs, but this is the study that was done. They took 168 pigs. They fed them organic grains, organic feed. Then they took another group and they fed them GMO. By the end of the study, it was staggering the difference. As a matter of fact, on autopsies, the intestines of the GMO group were like cellophane, with holes right through it, the very thing that's happening to us as humans. Think about this, Warren. People are going into conventional grocery stores. They're buying rice, they're buying wheat, that's loaded with this chemical glyphosate. It's GMOs, all of it. Corn, all the corn chips they're eating, every product has these things in it, whether it's corn, wheat—all loaded with this chemical. Then they're buying the vegetables that are sprayed with it, as well. We don't stand a chance. It's amazing that we don't see the greater epidemic, but just wait. Just wait until these children today end up in their 20's and 30's. If you think that autoimmune is bad now, it is going to be—it's going to be a pandemic that I fear for this planet. I'm telling you, this GMO thing and this glyphosate thing, I believe it is the most detrimental thing that's happened in the human race, at least in the food channel, in probably the last 100 years. It is that big of a deal. Yet, it's getting no media attention whatsoever. No media attention. Thank god it made our top five. That's why you've got to share this video with everyone. Your family and friends are eating this stuff, and they're just going to take more medications because they don't feel well. They're going to take more stimulants, because they have no energy. Really, this is the thing. Look, if you don't do the top four, at least do this one. Get rid of GMOs in 2015. Eat only organic grains, if you eat grain at all. Eat only organic corn. Please, minimize these exposures. Your health will change.

Warren: This has been an incredible show. I'm thinking about this and I'm just re-inspired. Sometimes I'm even out to eat and I'll eat some rice and not know where it's from, but knowing that could be a heavily sprayed—and this is even at nice restaurants. Pesticides and glypohsate and just relaxing too much. Again, you don't want to stress. Again, the Stress and Rest Hypothesis, you don't want to stress yourself out so much and live in fear. Your bodies have an amazing ability to heal, and it can handle a little bit of stress, maybe a pesticide hit here, a glyphosate hit there, but if you're doing it on a daily basis and you're eating corn chips every day, you're eating pesticide-sprayed rice every day, it is—just like they did with those pigs, it is destroying your guy, your body, your cells, your genetics. Glyphosate causes genetic modifications. Pesticide, same thing. You want to give a rat this sickness? Give him low doses of pesticide. It causes sickness immediately, every time, consistently, in studies. That's how they start. It's good just to go back and remind yourself, man, I have to be careful. We all, if we don't educate ourselves—if we're not educating ourselves, someone else is going to be educating us, and that's going to be the media. That's going to be the marketing. We've got to educate ourselves, or someone else is going to dictate your education. Usually, that's your TV and the commercial industry.

Dr. Pompa: Yep. Hey Warren, I want to end it with this, right here. This is a big thing for me. It's the 180° Solution™. Folks watching, if you want to know what to do, how to do it, simply watch the media, read the magazines, read the newspapers, watch your TV, watch Dr. Oz, do 180° opposite, and somehow, you hit it right every time. Look at these five things. Keto-adaptation, high fat—what's the world say? Low fat. Intermittent fasting—what's the world say? Eat a big breakfast. Eat six meals a day. What are we saying? Eat one or two. Eat no breakfast. Number three, stress and rest. God forbid that you stress yourself out. No, we're saying stress it but rest it. 180°. Bone stock fasting—what's the world say? No, fasting's not good. GMOs—what's the world say? Eat grain. Eat more of it. Matter of fact, it's the highest thing on the pyramid, and it's the number one thing poisoning us. Do 180° opposite, folks, everything you hear in the media, and somehow, in every aspect of life, I'm not just talking about diet, you'll hit it right every time. Warren, something that I teach my children, you know that—when everyone's making a right, make a left. Somehow, the sheep will always end up over the cliff, right? Somehow. These things, I know they run contrary to what you hear, but that's why it's truth. We'll end with that this year.

Warren: Thank you, Dr. Pompa. Thanks for an amazing year of sharing your hard work, your research. It's painstaking. You don't realize, guys, the amount of time he puts in researching and writing articles and is on this mission full time. It's absolutely amazing. You've done great work for the world this year, Dr. Pompa. I just commend you. On Facebook, just these shows alone, we get the testimony back, we've shared a few of them, just how people's lives all over the world, from Australia, England, Africa. It is absolutely—and I'll show my authentic smile and just energy right now. I'll switch back over to myself, because it has been a blessing to us, Dr. Pompa. A blessing to my life, my family's lives, and lives all over the world. Keep up the hard work in 2015. Actually, my challenge to you, Dr. Pompa, is in 2015, I'm challenging you to put out more information than last year because of your health, because of the way you're adapting to stress in life. I want to see a massive doubling of information from that brain of yours in the New Year in a healthy way, so that we can share back next year at this time, the amazing top five again. Just a thank you and a blessing and a Happy New Year to you and to everyone watching.

Dr. Pompa: Alright, thank you. See you next year.

Warren: Alright, see you guys. Bye-bye.

45: Epigenetics and Your Genome

Transcript of Episode 45: Epigenetics and Your Genome

With Dr. Daniel Pompa and David Asarnow.


David: This is David Asarnow, and I’m here with Dr. Pompa. We are here for Cellular Healing TV, Episode 46. Dr. Pompa, can you believe it’s been 46 episodes of Cellular Healing TV?

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. It’s hard to be believe. I’m going to get closer to my camera. Yeah. It is hard to believe. And here I am in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Let’s see if we can show some of the pictures.

David: I can see the moose. I can see the moose lantern behind you.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah, exactly. [0:00:33]. Yeah. This is cowboy town. I mean, you can just tell by these magazines sitting there, Cowboys and Indians. Of course, it’s a ski town, right? I mean, SKI, and so I’m here for business, and well, always a little pleasure, but, yeah. No. Here we are in Jackson Hole, WY, and always amazing snow, and amazing animals, the moose and elk. But we’re here for an amazing show and an amazing topic, David, in my mind.

David: And no better place to talk about epigenetics than Jackson Hole.

Dr. Pompa: Why is that?

David: I have no idea. It just came out. Because you’re there, I’m here, and that’s the topic for today. So why don’t we talk a little bit about epigenetics, and I know that some of our viewers know what it is. And some people are saying, epigenetics, I’ve heard of it. It’s been in the news recently, or it’s been a trending topic of conversation. So what is epigenetics?

Dr. Pompa: Well, look. Epigenetics, think of it as how you’re—what your genes are expressing. Meaning that—here’s what you have to understand. Humans are 99.9.99% the same DNA. I know that sounds hard to believe. Meaning that, David, we all have basically the same genes. That’s why we don’t look like rabbits, or we don’t look like moose, right? Like the moose you see behind me or elk, so we actually have 99% of the same gene.

So then, you would say then, “Yeah, but why are we all so different within the human race?” Well, that brings up a good point, and that’s the point of epigenetics, meaning that, really, it is our epigenome. I’m going to give you an understanding. Now this may help some of you and not others. Think of your genes that we get as humans as your hard drive. We get that from our parents. That is our hard drive, like a hard drive in the computer. The epigenome is your software. Okay, so really, that’s where all the changes come from, right?

That’s where we really—it makes us who we are. So, yeah, we inherit a certain set of genes, but really, it’s the epigenome. Certain things get turned on, and certain genes get turned off, and therefore, we sit here today as literally an expression of our genes. Now there’s two major things that do this. Basically, our environment, like our habitat so to speak, right? And obviously, things that we do, our lifestyle. So we’ll say our environment and our lifestyle. Our habitat, where we live, whether you live in Jackson [0:03:19] the East Coast, whether you live in a polluted environment or a clean environment, whether you live in stressful environment, a non-stressful environment, or whether you eat bad, good, exercise a lot and exercise a little. All of these things determine who you are because they change your genome for good or for bad.

Therefore, David, if you eat good, you express good genes or things good from your genes. You get the best of your genetics. If you eat bad, you get the worse from your genetics. So that’s what the epigenetic is. Epi means on top, so literally, it’s this covering of the gene that is really what changes the hard drive down in the gene. And your genes are either expressing good stuff or bad, David. So I don’t know. I mean, you probably have ten questions there. Let’s get them to understand that before I move on.

David: So you’re right. You can see me writing questions based upon what you’re talking about. One of the things you mentioned was turning on—genes turn on and turn off. Now I know that we’ve had this conversation before in previous episodes of Cellular Healing TV, and yet, someone may be tuning in for the very first time today. What does that mean? So how by changing your environment, changing how you exercise, how does that give the ability to turn on or turn off certain gene expressions of how we’re showing health-wise, or weight loss?

Dr. Pompa: Well, okay. Let me give you—let me start with an example that we talked about before, and it was a study out of Stanford University where they took two groups of mice. They took—they were identical twins. They separated the identical twins. So that means they have identical DNA, and they put one set of brothers and sisters in one group. The other set in another group. They fed them identical. They exercised them on their little wheels identical. So they basically created the same environment habitat, right?

And then what they did is they exposed one group to a chemical. As a matter of fact, the chemical called BPA that we’re very familiar with. Most [0:05:34] we’re getting that from cosmetics, personal care products, things we rub on our skin. Of course, you can get it from plastic bottles [0:05:44], especially hot and Styrofoam. I’ve watched David do that once.

David: We did that last week, and you—that’s what you were talking about, BPA. Got it, now I get it.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, I mean, BPA is a chemical that’s mostly found in plastic, but look. This could be any chemical, David. This study, they used that particular chemical. Heavy metals, same thing, they…

David: I had to have  my coffee [0:06:10] so much last week, so there you go, my excuse.

Dr. Pompa: [0:06:15]. But I always say that’s an exception I don’t ever make. I’m not going to drink coffee out of Styrofoam and get all that styrene. Styrene’s another chemical that’s in, obviously, Styrofoam. That’s the word, right? [0:06:28] too can change genes on and off, okay. But chemicals like that, they turn good genes off, David, or genes that we have in us that keep us thin. We have genes in us that keep us healthy. Keep our insulin, our energy metabolism, our fat metabolism, running and working normal. When that gene gets turned off, now we don’t metabolize energy normally, and we can start to gain weight. We have genes that literally can express certain things, like obesity.

So back to the Stanford study, so the chemical turned on something called the agouti gene. The agouti gene is a gene that does in fact make you obese, as well as other factors. It predisposes you to heart disease, thyroid issues, other problems, okay? So when they turned on the gene, remember two groups of rats here, they turned on—actually mice, but they turned on the agouti gene in this group of mice by using a chemical. Fed the same, exercised the same. Gave them a chemical., it turned the gene on. They became fat and obese despite their diet, David. Despite how much or how little they exercised.

Now the bad part was is their next generation, even though they were not exposed to the chemical, they inherited the gene, the agouti gene, turned on. So guess what happened when they became little teenage mice? They became fat and obese with a predisposed [0:07:54]. Their hair became yellow, thyroid issues, you got it. So they inherited the gene turned on. They became obese without changing their diet. This is happening generation, after generation, after generation. These types of toxins that we’re exposed to, our parents were exposed to them, they affected our DNA. So now we wonder all of a sudden why, with just one more little stressor in our life, why all of a sudden now we have a certain condition like Hashimoto’s, a thyroid condition, or why we can’t lose weight. See, because that gene was turned on. Sometimes it just takes one more stress or stressor to trigger that gene even further and express another condition that we’re not happy with.

So that’s really how it is. Now, so, the best part,  I think, about the study is is that they were able to turn off the gene, and then the next generation was born normal, right, and they weren’t born with that predisposed gene. See, David, look. In ninth grade, they weren’t going to let me on the wresting team because I had high blood pressure. Just like my mother. Okay? That was in ninth grade. Today, here I am. Much, much older, obviously, and I don’t have high blood pressure. Not on any medication. Unlike my mother who took medication for high blood pressure her whole life.

I would’ve went down [0:09:13]. So I’m older without high blood pressure. What changed? Well, the gene got turned off. But you know, it did take some time, David. I remember even eating healthy and still being slightly high on blood pressure, and it wasn’t until I did a certain amount of detox that I was able to turn that gene completely off, and have zero high blood pressure. So, I mean, that’s the point is that I had my mother’s gene. No doubt about it. Something turned it on, obviously, my lifestyle, and therefore, it wasn’t until I was able to turn that gene off that I actually got the blood pressure within normal range.

So, again, the nice thing is is we can change our environments. We can change our habitats. We can change our lifestyle. Change our level of toxicity, and what we’re going to talk about here in a little bit is changing other things like exercise, also, is something that helps a lot. David, there’s a product in that study, and I want to leave that study, but the Stanford study, they gave the mice—because I think our viewers are going to say, “Well, what did they do to turn it off?” They gave our mice something called methylation or methyl groups. There’s a product called MoRS, M-0-R-S, that is a methylation product, and this methylation product, we have in it the very same things that they used in that study. These methyl groups they gave to the mice in abundance, and it turned the gene off.

And basically, that’s exactly part of what we do today with very challenged people who have very challenging conditions, even weight loss resistance, which is very challenging, thyroid conditions, autoimmune conditions. But also, [0:11:00] diet, reducing stress, all of these things play into turning off your bad genes. So, David, the old dogma was we just got the genetics of our parents. If they got diabetes, we’re going to get it.

David: Yeah.

Dr. Pompa: Whatever they [0:11:13], right? I mean, think about it. I mean, didn’t at some point you believed that at certain point?

David: Of course, I mean, it’s—well, actually, I don’t believe that I believed it, but everyone always says, “Well, if so and so had this, tell me about your parents.” Well, I always tell the doctor, “It doesn’t matter what my parents had.” “Well, there’s hereditary things that will happen,” and obviously, there’s still a lot of people that believe that.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. Right and it’s really not true. I mean, listen. We do get that hard drive. However, again, it’s whether you turn them on or turn those genes off, and the great part is is you can turn them off. But doctors don’t understand this. This is a new science. You hear me talk, David, about there’s this massive gap between what’s happening in this exciting world of research, and this is one of these exciting worlds in my mind is the study of epigenetics is amazing right now. There’s Human Genome Project. I think it was in 2012, and I mean, just brought out absolute amazing science, and yet, the treatment world, the doctor world, however you want to look at it, they’re not doing anything with this information.

I believe we’re trying to close down that gap of what’s happening in science and what’s happening in the treatment world, because this is exciting stuff. I mean, but yet, doctors still believe that you’ve got a disease, you’ve got cancer, because you’re parents got cancer, so few diseases are purely genetic in nature. When you look at a complete chromosome error, that’s a genetic disease, right? I mean, that’s something completely different here, but everything  that we’re talking about and dealing with here, whether it’s thyroid, diabetes, weight gain, weight loss, I mean, this is all epigenetics. I mean, all epigenetics. Whether that gene is turned on, we need to turn these genes off. That’s the discussion we need to be having.

David: So what is the first step. So if we look at—someone’s watching today saying, okay. The challenge that we have is we live in an instant gratification society. People want what they want when they want it, and they want instantaneous results. And as you said, it took a lifetime and possibly even generations to get the gene the way it is. What is the first step that someone should take to get their health back?

Dr. Pompa: First, your grandparents because it wasn’t their genes, it was what they ate and what they did. It’s true. I mean, it is inherited [0:13:38], but no, we need to change, obviously, for our next generation. David, the first thing we do is we definitely want to change our environments. We want to be in a toxic-free, stress-free environments because when we look at these studies where they take identical twins and we realize why does one get cancer and the other not, it’s typically their environment. It’s typically how they live their life. Putting yourself in stress-free environments, well, most people are going, “Well, crap. I can’t change that,” right? Okay. So let’s talk about what you can do today.

David: How can you deal with the stress so that way it doesn’t affect you negatively?

Dr. Pompa: Absolutely, here’s the irony. I talked about that product MoRS. Methylation, being properly methylated, that’s important because we need these methyl groups to actually turn on how we adapt to stress. So we needed to activate our stress response. So if you’re properly methylated, you respond normal to stress and you adapt. I said on the show last week, all disease really boils down to the ability or the inability to adapt to a stress. When you don’t adapt, now you’re developing disease. Let’s be more specific. Now you’re turning on bad genes, right? So that’s really a continuation of last weeks’ product.

I said this. Everyone—think about this folks. We all have different sized buckets genetically of being able to tolerate stress. A lot of it is how blessed we are with our methylation ability, but let’s imagine us all having these stress buckets, okay? So I’ll pick this up as my example. So this is a cup of organic coffee that I got here in Jackson Hole, but look. So this is our stress bucket. All of our stressors go into that, David,  right? So here, we’re going to put all of our emotional stressors in there.

Now emotional stressors can go away, right? But all of our chemical stressors, they tend to bioaccumulate and fill this bucket up, stress, stress, stress. Now some of the emotional stressors, they don’t go away, and it goes up even further, and then it goes up even further, and now it’s right near—and just a little bit of stress if I—I almost spilled it. See, because the line is right here, and when that overflows, now we have a problem, right? Now it’s overflowing. So let’s empty it down to here. Let’s say the fluid line was here. Now I could stress it a lot more and not overflow. We want to empty our stress buckets. That stress [0:16:00] to turn off our DNA. So taking methyl groups helps because it helps us adapt to the stressors, even the chemical stressors, and it starts to empty that bucket.

Detox, cellular detox, something that I’m a fan of, helps empty the chemical stressors out of this bucket, and therefore, we can adapt to greater stress. We can start to turn off those genes. So when this bucket overflows with any type of stressor—remember your body reacts the same physiologically to every stressor. I have an alarm going off, so I apologize. Hopefully, it goes off. So David, when this bucket overflows, we start to develop disease.

David: So you were talking this morning about a magazine.

Dr. Pompa: [0:16:46]

David: Can you hear me?

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. Okay.

David: You were speaking this morning about an article in regards to epigenetics. What is in that article? I’m curious.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. No. Great topic because in this—this is becoming a great exciting topic, right? And there was an article in New York Times this week, and if I could just show you, but it was a great article. I lost it again, but anyways, I’ll find it. But anyways, the article, I wanted to read you the topic. Here. It’ll come up in a second. Right here, New York Times and the article states that—well, I had it and then I lost it. Oh, right here, How Exercise Can Change Your DNA. Let me see. There. See if you can read that.

How Exercise Can Change Your DNA, and then there’s a picture of people exercising on the bike. So the thing about the article, David, I think, that was neat is, obviously, we understand that if we do certain types of exercise we get a great benefit for weight loss, especially high-intensity exercise. Well, one of the reasons now, we understand that this type of exercise can actually turn certain genes on. As a matter of fact, it affects the epigenome in a place called enhancer genes. Okay. And the thing in this study that they found was that it had enhanced genes involving carbohydrate metabolism, or insulin, and all these things to do with how our muscles use energy, aka burn fat. Okay? So we know that when we exercise, we can turn on genes, and make us more efficient fat burners. We can turn on metabolism and also better use of insulin. So that’s telling us that that’s why exercise affects diabetes. We really didn’t understand why exercise, especially high-intensity exercise, affects diabetes for the positive, but now we know because we know that it turns on these very specific genes that have to do with how we metabolize energy, and how we utilize insulin, and how we breakdown fat for energy.

So David, here’s what they did in the study I thought was interesting because the reason exercise—this has been difficult to study is because so many things affect our genes, our epigenetics, right? So before that we even say, “Well, how do we know if it was exercise, this exercise, that exercise?” Because look at their diet. We couldn’t control their diet. What if it was this? What if it was that? So what they did in the study is they exercised one leg of this group of people. So they got them on a bike, and they only exercised one leg, whether it was the left leg or right leg. They were able to see the genetic change in the left leg, for example, versus the right leg, and then they were able to isolate what genes weren’t actually turned on and what genes were because they only exercised one part of the body, pretty cool.

David: Very cool.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. This opened the door to see this is what this type of exercise actually does, pretty neat.

David: Wow. That is very cool. So what—let’s talk a little bit about the best kind of exercise that if—I mean, we’re going into the time of year right now that people start thinking about exercising, and especially during the holidays. I mean, I’ve read that people eat thousands upon thousands of calories on the holidays, whether it’s Christmas, whether it’s Thanksgiving. What type of exercise is best? You mentioned it a little bit, but can you go a little bit deeper?

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. I mean, I recommend just spinning with one leg on a bicycle, just one leg.

David: I don’t know if I can do that, so what else can I do?

Dr. Pompa: [0:20:42] if we want to emulate that study. No. I’m joking, obviously. That did come out in New York Times, but that was just released in epigenetics, which is an amazing review. But anyway, so the scientific study is out there if you want to read it. You could just google epigenetics, and I’m sure you’ll come to their site or New York Times. You’ll see the article if you google New York Times. It was out this week.

Anyways, David, what type of exercise? High-intensity exercise definitely turns more of those genes on that we look at as far as weight loss. So if we want to lose weight and turn more of the genes, the good genes, on that help us become better fat burners, utilize insulin more, studies show that the high-intensity, you’re going to activate more of those genes. So therefore, it’s going to have a better effect on diabetes. It’s going to have a better effect on weight loss. So high-intensity means—if you watch my articles on burst training, read those articles, watch those videos. Burst training, that’s where we get our heart rate up to at least 80% of our maximum. We go hard for at least 30 seconds. It could be two to three minutes, and then we take two to three minutes off. Recover. Go high-intensity again.

Because when you go that high-intensity, you just can’t keep going, right? So it’s called interval training, high-intensity  training, where we do intervals of high-intensity and rest, intervals of high-intensity and rest. I’m a strong believer—look. I’m a cyclist. I love endurance racing, and there is some benefit there too, but as far as weight loss, diabetes, [0:22:21], the high-intensity works better. It turns on the genes better.

And then, David, obviously, when we’re looking at what we can do, yeah, we can increase our methylation. That’s the MoRS. Detox, cellular detox. Watch our past shows because, really, the whole cellular core that I write about, my 5R’s, R1-R5, that is true detox. Fixing the cell, that’s key, and in a future show, I want to talk more about that because we haven’t in a while, David. So please write that down because I want to really show some people what we’re doing at the cellular level to really—what true cellular detox looks like because there’s so much confusion that I did this colon cleanse, or I did this cleanse last week. Every one of those cleanses, typically a colon cleanse, not there’s anything wrong with that, but it’s not true detox or the method that we use in cellular detox. Again, the more you [0:23:19] the more you get to see that, but we will do. Obviously, stay tuned for that. That is going to change your DNA.

R2, folks, read my article in R2, and R2 is regenerating your cell membranes. We know that it’s the cell membrane that actually turns the genes on and off. By the way, it’s the cell membrane is where they say it holds the intelligence. The cell membrane is what looks at your environment. It communicates with your environment and says good or bad, and then it changes the genome. So I know that that’s very complicated, but all I’m telling you is this. On every cell, there is the membrane that surrounds it, and then there’s all these receptors, hormone receptors, but think of these things as the antennas. They go, ooh , toxins or good stuff, right? And they communicate with the environment, and then they change the genome in the nucleus of the cell. So now it can turn it on for good, or it can turn it off for bad, or turn it on for bad. [0:24:25] for good. You get my point.

So it is the cell membrane that you need to pay attention to. Read those 5R articles. My 5R’s is a roadmap of how to fix them. You have [0:24:38] 5R articles. So really, taking the cellular core, which is what I call—that’s the core. I mean, we have a lot of different products for each R and how to fix the cell, but that’s the core. Read them. You’ll understand how to fix your genome because that is really what it’s about. The cellular core is about changing epigenetics for good, and that’s the point of the show.

David: And for everyone to watch—to view the articles, go to www.drpompa.com, drpompa.com. Dr. Pompa, any final thoughts that you would like to leave our viewers with today?

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. No. I mean, I think that the—we know why exercise works, but it’s not just exercise. It’s not just diet. It’s not just our environment, our habitat, and our lifestyle. We sit here, you watch this show right now as you view it, as an expression of your DNA. Bottom line, it’s either good or it’s either bad. The best news is you can change it, but you have to change your environments. You have to change—that means the toxins, the stressors. Empty your stress buckets, emotionally, physically, chemically. You will start to adapt better to every stress.

You will eventually start to change that DNA, but take control of what you can change now. Exercise, start doing it, make it a goal in January. Eating better, everything that we say, taking the cellular products, that eventually will change the expression of your genes, and then you will sit here a year from now, I promise you, expressing differently, expressing better,  and not expressing thyroid conditions, weight problems, etc., etc. That’s a choice. Believe it. Some of it perhaps isn’t. I mean, certain stressors you can’t avoid. Change the ones you can.

David: I love the message that, basically, you have control of your life. You have control of your health. Change the food that’s coming in. Excuse me. And you can—a year from now, you’ll be a different person. I love it.

Dr. Pompa: [0:26:47]

David: Yes?

Dr. Pompa: [0:26:48] When we first met—I want to use you as an example that when we first met, you were taking some bad stuff from your DNA. You were overweight. I mean, you had things we’ll just say. There were things going on, but that was an expression of your DNA. As you change, as you hung out with us longer, you started changing your lifestyle, right?

David: Mm-hmm.

Dr. Pompa: Changing what you put in your mouth, and changed how you exercised. Am I right on all of that? You changed it all.

David: Well, yeah. I mean, in fact, I was a vegetarian when we—I did a year and a half of vegetarian when we met, and I thought grains was fine because they were vegetarian. And I was gaining weight.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. I mean, exactly, and you were expressing a lot of bad stuff, and that would’ve continued. But you changed and now you’re expressing thinness. You’re expressing fit. You’re expressing, I mean, more energy, more brain power. I mean, that really is an expression of what’s coming out of your DNA. Pretty cool stuff, but listen, I mean it does start with changing what we put in our mouth, changing our lifestyle.

David: It’s a commitment. It’s a commitment.

Dr. Pompa: Absolutely, absolutely, but exciting science, we’ll keep—I’ll keep you abreast on the science, but that article out this week [0:28:11]exercise can change, especially [0:28:17]. See you next week, and oh, by the way, next week. I want to preview the show.

I think we’re going to have a patient on of mine. Well, I call him a client. I call all my people clients. He had Stage 4. I mean, he literally was the worst pancreatic cancer. Listen, folks. He’s not only a survivor, which doesn’t happen, he’s thriving. Wait ‘til you hear this story. Pancreatic cancer is a death sentence. They gave him a death sentence. Wait to you hear this epigenetic story. That’s going to be next week.

David: Awesome, thanks, Dr. Pompa. Thank you, everyone, for tuning in. We’ll see you next time, 10 a.m., Eastern Time, Friday morning.. Thank you.

Dr. Pompa: See ya.

 

44: Diet Soda Effects on the Brain

Transcript of Episode 44: Diet Soda Effects on the Brain

With Dr. Daniel Pompa, Warren Phillips and David Asarnow.


Warren:
All right, guys. Sorry we're a little late today. As always we have a little bit of technical difficulty. Dr. Pompa and our executive team have been travelling. There's David and Phil's over here, but we always make time for what's important and that's sharing the truth.

Dr. Pompa has a really great topic today. As a matter of fact, we just released an article.

You're going to see a little bit of a delay because the Internet connection is slow here. There's this topic and it's an epidemic. There's multiple of them out there, but just recently there's an onslaught of patients, Dr. Pompa that have been dealing with Parkinson's. A lot of that connection has come from one thing. We'd like to share that one thing with you today, and we just released an article on that one thing.

Dr. Pompa, let's get into the detrimental effect of diet soda on the brain. What we like to say is?

Dr. Pompa:
Your brain on diet soda.

Warren:
You brain on diet soda. Frying in the pan. Your brain on drugs, you remember that?

Dr. Pompa:
I remember years ago, I thought I'd start with this story because years ago, I had a patient, this was back in my practice in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, in Wexford, and she was diagnosed with MS. I had just got done reading an article recently around that time about how people with MS, Parkinson's and other neurodegenerative diseases could be misdiagnosed, if you will. The first question is always to ask if they've ever drunk a lot of diet soda, utilized a lot of diet products in their life. When you take those away, many of these people that's the first step, they actually get better.

This girl came in and she was severely down the road with MS. Having just read that article, I said to her, “Have you utilized a lot of aspartame in your day or drunk diet soda?” As it turned out, she was in fact addicted to diet soda and other products too. By the way, we'll talk about why it's so addictive. I don't know if I shared the article with her, it was a while ago, the bottom line is she gets off of the diet soda. She literally was able to start walking again; her life changed. She was able to get off all the medications. I mean her life changed. I think there was some damage that was still there, however, life with that diagnosis ended.

As of recently, there's been a lot of talk on the Internet, some things coming out about Michael J. Fox, and as we know, he was one of the youngest people to be diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, a really sad story. Michael J. Fox also did ads for Pepsi Cola, and more specifically the diet soda. As it said in this article, is that Michael J. Fox was drinking a lot of diet soda. Not just doing the commercials but in his private life, so consuming a lot of diet soda. In the article too, they did indicate that heavy metals were also attributed to this condition. There's been some videos circulating online where Michael J. Fox was laughing in some of these movies, you could see his mouth fall of amalgam fillings, which releases mercury into the brain, which is also a known cause of Parkinson's.

As I always say, it's never one stressor. It's a perfect storm. Of course, Michael J. Fox ingesting the diet sodas, getting addicted to the diet sodas. Obviously now there's all this research on how aspartame is linked to Parkinson's and other nerve diseases. As we know, even the article talks about how it drives some people on NMDA, which is simply this bran chemical, if you will that drives this inflammation in the brain. We know that aspartame also blunts dopamine receptors. What that means, we know that Parkinson's is related to this chemical that the brain needs called dopamine.

The brain starts to form these plaques and this inflammation, so the research has been there for use obviously. Michael J. Fox's foundation, I think this is one of the points in the article, is that this has been brought to the foundation's attention. This link of diet soda and Michael J. Fox drinking a lot of diet soda and driving his Parkinson's, but it's really just been pushed aside. I think the sad part is there's a lot of money that's gone into the foundation are companies who utilize aspartame, or at least make products with aspartame in them and other petrochemicals etc., and the article based on.

I think that next time you're on an airplane, just look around and you hear the people making their orders. I think more people order diet soda today than anything else.

Warren:
That's true. In my personality, you know that research is actually going to—you're going to gain work when you drink diet soda.

Dr. Pompa:
Well that's actually another great topic. Warren you pointed out — ask them, the answer's always, “Well I like it more!”

Warren:
Yeah, and this is a big controversy for me because if you're watching this you're like, “Well I cannot get off my diet soda.”  You're literally addicted. When you first try it, it's not that good.

Dr. Pompa:
No, there's that odd aftertaste.

Warren:
Mom, how can you drink this? My mom, I'm from Pittsburgh, mom, “Why do you like diet soda? It tastes like crap.”  She's like, “I love it!”  I'll actually talk to people and they'll verbally say to me, “There's no way that you can get right of my diet soda!”  There is a diet soda right there but you can't put the name on there.

Phil:
I was just drinking this.

Warren:
You can't show it.

Dr. Pompa:
Other than like that.

Warren:
Oh yeah. It's a diet soda, in this house. It's Phil's.

Phil:
It's not mine.

Warren:
It always blows my mind, Dr. Pompa why it's so addictive. I know it has to be something to do with the dopamine effect or something, but they get addicted to this stuff and it's literally—I don't know how to say it but in layman's terms, it's like crap. They just do not want to get off of it, and it becomes a major sticking point, even in some of the consults.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, aspartame, it's the amino acids that make up aspartame. By the way that's one of the arguments, it has three amino acids, maybe the viewing audience is more familiar with MSG. Well these things are excitotoxins that excite this part of our brain, and these are called glutamate receptors.

Warren:
I like my brain excited, shouldn't that be a good thing?

Dr. Pompa:
That's the whole point of the brain on drugs, right, or brain, in this case, on diet soda, it excites these things. When it excites them that's the point. Food companies put these clever chemicals into foods and it literally makes us go, wow, the flavor here is amazing. Part of the problem with that is when we eat broccoli or something next time, it's like after a while, broccoli doesn't taste good. That's why the kids today are addicted to processed food with these chemicals because they're excitotoxins. They get the brain to love the food. There's these pleasure centers in the brain and it stimulates those pleasure centers just like a drug does. That's why people get addicted to – Phil Kaplan coming in – and they get addicted to those drugs because they stimulate the pleasure centers. However, these things also do the same thing.

Phil, you must have something to say.

Warren:
We have two puppies in the room!

Phil:
I have a question for you and I have a comment. My comment is what do they add in the diet soda to the aspartame? In most cases, caffeine, so now you have the double addiction. You're securing the addictive property with another addictive substance.

Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely!

Phil:
My question for you is you have this woman in Pittsburgh. Did she really have MS or was she simply misdiagnosed? When you look at that, the diagnosis is based on symptoms and symptoms go away. Did that person really have the disease or were they misdiagnosed?

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I would say misdiagnosed, right, but ultimately though, what is the diagnosis. We see certain plaques in the brain. We see a certain set of symptoms and we're putting a label on that. I guess that it's called MS but we don't know what caused it.

Phil:
I'm asking you this from the perspective of somebody who was misdiagnosed with Parkinson's. I don't have Parkinson's. Think about if you can imagine sitting across the table from a doctor who says, “You have Parkinson's.”  There was no question. It's wasn't, “Phil, you might have Parkinson's. You have symptoms that replicate Parkinson's.”

Dr. Pompa:
Well how did that happen? Tell a little bit of that story because there's s so many people watching this—

Phil:
Absolutely!  Join the conversation.

Dr. Pompa:
There's so many people watching this who have a certain set of symptoms and been given a diagnosis, Phil. I'm always saying, hey that's just a word. You have fibromyalgia. Here's the classic one, you have cellulite. My God I have cellulitis! That's inflammation of cells. You have fibromyalgia. Well if you have pain everywhere, we have a -inaudible-.

When you had a certain set of symptoms and things going wrong, they gave you a diagnosis of Parkinson's.

Phil:
Well at the time I didn't know much about mold. I've become an accidental expert, as you have because we've been through it. I was just getting crazy symptoms and by the time I went to, I'm not going to say the name of the hospital, but a major hospital. They put me through three days of testing. I was actually excited to speak to the Head of Neurology because I was sure he was going to cure me. Whatever it was, he was going to cure me.

I was stuttering. I could barely form words. I had really bad trembles; I would sit on my hands. I couldn't even pick up a glass off the table. I believed whatever it is, he's going to identify it, and without looking at me, he was looking at his computer, he said, “Phil, you have Parkinson's.”  I guess a look came over my face that when he looked at he was taken by it. He puts his hand on my forearm and he goes, “Don't worry; there are medications. You can have a good quality of life for many years.”

What strikes me is had I started taking—I left with the prescriptions but I never filled them. Had I left with those prescriptions and actually filled them and taken the medications, I would today believe I had Parkinson's.

Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely!

Phil:
You have to wonder how many times people are misdiagnosed, how many times, and how many times are you examined.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, done that! I think unfortunately that happens a lot today with many people. What is really the cause of fibromyalgia is chronic fatigue. You only have chronic fatigue, they walk away with a lifetime diagnosis, instead of asking the question, “What caused this set of symptoms?”  Remember, symptoms are simply a warning. Our body's telling us there is something wrong, but what caused it. It's never asked.

Phil:
If Michael J. Fox could make a list of his symptoms, and then go through a checklist, I don't have this one anymore, don't have this one anymore, and who cares if he Parkinson's later. In other words, often the way the medical system operates is they did they job and they can stamp on your forehead, this is what you have.

Dr. Pompa:
Then promptly give you the concoctions that go along to minimize those symptoms and, therefore, you'll have it for life. You'll take those for life.

Warren:
That's the game they play.

Dr. Pompa:
They did their job.

Warren:
Yeah, I think with the right system.

Dr. Pompa:
That's a system that's broken. When the doctor is doing their job and some have a satisfaction but I think more and more doctors today are very frustrated within that system, at least we're seeing that, and they want out because it is a broken system.

Phil:
There's a perfect system at both ends. There's a perfect system for the chemical companies and a perfect system for drug companies. And new compounds that they can put in foods that can cause sets of symptoms that could be diagnosed, drug companies make money. That's how the machine works. You've heard the term ‘bliss point'?

Dr. Pompa:
No.

Phil:
In the food industry, they have to find the right amount of sweetener to get to the point of bliss. Now when you go beyond it, then the person gets sick of the food. If you ever eat something which is too sweet —

Dr. Pompa:
I've had enough.

Phil:
Yeah. They spend a lot of time and money saying, “How do we get to that bliss point?”  If they're not going to use sugar, the question then becomes, “How do we create synthetically in the brain that same response as if we're getting the bliss point with sugar?”  The chemical addiction is not an accident; it's exactly what they're trying to do, knowing that when the bliss will show up, the drug companies will make a fortune. It's a beautiful system on both ends.

Dr. Pompa:
It's amazing to me how many people are just unwilling to dig for cause. We call those people three percenters who want to dig for cause. It's not okay with them to live their life in effect like the 97 percenters. 97% of the population lives their life in effect. They never say, “You know , why is my life not the way I want it?”  People that live from cause go, “What am I doing that my life's not the way I want it?”  They live the life of cause.

If I get a certain set of symptoms, I'm immediately looking for what is the reason why, cause and effect. How do we avoid it? That whole system today has dumbed people down to live their life in effect and be okay with taking medication for the rest of their life. I would argue that there's conditions that that neatly fits, right, but most often it's not the case. There's a reason. You remove the cause, the body does the healing. I think you get blank stares today when you do to your doctor and you say, “Well gosh, doctor, what can I do to?”

Phil:
You get the tilt of the head and the momentary pause. They don't even address it.

Dr. Pompa:
Did you guys watch the show, and anyone out there watch the show on—Michael J. Fox did a show on happiness. He went to Tibet, which is on my bucket list, for reason why these people live the longest. There's a community there that's considered the happiest people on earth. Not only are we having people living really long lives but the happiest people on earth.

Michael J. Fox did a whole special—did you see that special?

Phil:
I didn't see it.

Dr. Pompa:
I thought it was fantastic.

Warren:
I'm sure it's on YouTube.

Dr. Pompa:
I thought Michael J. Fox did a great job. The interesting thing that probably went over most people's head was that he said, “You know, I haven't even had to take my medication since I've been here. My symptoms have virtually disappeared!” Okay, so when I heard that I said if Michael J. Fox moved there, moved to Tibet. I would. I would have been like, wait minute, there's something here that's very special.

There's something here not just being around happy people; that may have been part of the improvement. I don't know. You know what I'm saying when we say we know the mind can affect the cell, but there is something else, whether it was elevations. Something did something very magical, positive effect. He went back into his life and back into the medication. I was stunned by that!

Warren:
Remember, he probably wasn't wearing cologne. He probably wasn't drinking diet soda. He probably wasn't eating excitatory food.

Dr. Pompa:
I immediately started realizing that—

Chemical-free environment. You see because everything's about stress. When we look at how the body heals, if we can minimize the stress whether it's chemical, physical, or emotional enough, the body can start to heal. It's the bucket of stress. You know what I say when your bucket overflows, that's your bucket of stress. Meaning that all your chemicals that you've bio-accumulated drive the same stress reaction as when you're emotionally stressed because of something.

Warren:
I believe—

Dr. Pompa:
Anger, these things, everything in your life accumulates in this bucket and then this bucket doesn't adapt it anymore; it overflows. Now you're in a state of non-adapting. As soon as your body is not adapting, now you're in trouble. Now you're forming disease, whether it's cancer, heart disease, whatever your genetic weaknesses are causing things to adapt.

Phil:
Now you can handle more because you're better on the other end. I will bet there are people who will now come out with Tibet water, Tibet bread, Tibet berries because that's what they do. Michael J. Fox went to Tibet and he didn't have symptoms.

Warren:
We actually have an inroad then to Tibet.

Phil:
No, you've seen that with the Hunza Valley. Have you ever seen—

I'll tell you something interesting about Hunza, just take a little step to the side. They gauge their age based on life experience. You leave the Hunza Valley and come back, you've aged 50 years because you're wiser. When people are going there and they're saying, “I'm 120.”  People say money, but that 120 year old is probably really 50. It'd be a great marketing ploy because they could go, “Here's the reason those people live so long.”

Dr. Pompa:
What age, right?

Phil:
Yeah, and they know they live because they eat these berries. They live that way because they drink that water.

Dr. Pompa:
Meanwhile they're asking people, “So how old are you?” “Well I'm 90 years old.”  “Oh, my gosh!”  I'm going to live in their culture, he's 90 years old.

Phil:
They've also learned that the older they say they are the more money people give them. Wow, he's 150, let's give them —

Dr. Pompa:
They're more interested. Those who have great significance and have a [love language] of significance, they're getting significance. Every time I say I'm really old I get all this attention.

Phil:
They don't get cancer, they don't get cancer. They don't die of heart disease. They did of things like dysentery. It's all a different culture, but I love what you said. It's so true that when Michael J. Fox goes to Tibet, rather than looking for what is in Tibet that's made him better, what has he stepped away from that has allowed him to recover.

Warren:
The same thing happened to me. I met Michael J. Fox when I went to Africa when I was really challenged. I didn't sleep through the night, ever, at this point. I was chronic anxiety, low energy, couldn't adapt to stress. I slept like a baby the whole time I was there. I slept long, line 12 hours. If bombs drop off I wouldn't have woken up. I felt amazing. Most of my symptoms were gone.

I'm staying with the family—the name of the family, I can't remember. Anyway, just this beautiful family and it was open air. Big thick concrete wall with open-aired windows and no chemical smells. They grew their own food, organic, no chemicals, nothing, and I slept like a baby. Somehow the help at the place would sneak in and I wouldn't even hear them and I'd have this rooibos tea and lemon —

Dr. Pompa:
I said the same thing.

Warren:
How did they get in?

Dr. Pompa:
They got in your room and you'd wake up and there was hot tea. Hot tea, that means they came in five minutes ago.

Warren:
Even my mind when I was there at the time, I knew there were chemicals but I started drinking rooibos tea. I brought baobab fruit. Probably shouldn't say that because that was probably illegal. Of course, I moved back home, or come back home from the trip and I'm all back to not sleeping again.

Dr. Pompa:
Actually we did discover something.

Warren:
Don't give away…

Dr. Pompa:
We'll talk about baobab fruit in a minute because I think it's a story that'll interest most of you. I think we've hit on something really important here. There's now this concept of people from the area of Silicon Valley, San Francisco, there's a lot of big business there, people living life high, fast and doing a lot of things. They go into the mountains and there's a group that takes these CEO's in these groups of really high functioning people at that level in the business world into the mountains and they create the most amazing ideas.

They feel amazing. I mean this is all tree-hugging stuff. These people go into the words and it's like, “My gosh it's these trees, it must be these trees.”  Remember the jerk, it's the cans; the cans were exploding, it's the cans. There's a guy shooting at them. What the trees are giving off; they are, they've giving off a certain energy. They're giving off certain ions. The air is different.

Today, we have four massive things happening. We have chemical stress like no time ever.

Warren:
Including EMS.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, but chemical stress. We have the emotional stressors today because life is fast. We have the—I'm missing one, the emotional stress, the chemical, the emotional, the physical stressors. Sitting in offices is an amazing physical stress with the lack of good physical stress. Now we have something, and it's the electrowaves. It's the electromagnetic frequencies that really don't fall into the chemical world. They don't fall into the physical world, and they don't fall into the emotional world. We have a new stressor.

You take these people out of the city, out of these buildings that have so much electromagnetic frequency; it's a stressor to cells. You take them out of that environment, this stress, this stress, this stress and magic happens. You can start to do some basic detox with them and remove some of that stress. Or the bucket empties and they go—the body just starts going into the adaptation mode again. Now they're adapting and they feel well again.

Phil:
These are people sitting in a chair allowing their bodies to carry weight?

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah.

Phil:
Experience more and more physical stress. As their head becomes heavy they're adding stress on their body.

Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely!  It's a negative physical stress.

Phil:
They are inhaling all of the flame retardants.

Dr. Pompa:
Their whole environment… there's chemicals around them, flame retardants, bromines, cleaners. You have a chemical environment.

Phil:
On top of that now there's the invisible, what we can't see, which is what we call the wifi, which is everywhere.

Dr. Pompa:
Let me tell you a story about that. This is somebody who I have never really—going through my sickness I didn't hit the point where I noticed the effect but it's something that would really set me off. A lot of my clients cannot tolerate being near the refrigerator, for example because there's an electric frequency there. That's how bad they get.

Well we were in a new car that has the chip that you can put in to get the Internet in your car. It sounds like a really cool idea.

Warren:
Yeah, kids can get on the—

Dr. Pompa:
I was there, my son was driving, my 16 year old son; here's a little stress added, and my other two little ones were in the back and I was in the passenger seat. They wanted to continue playing some game, so my son then said, “Oh I can turn the Internet on.”  Turned the Internet on and put the chip in and within moments I felt something. Oh maybe it's this, maybe it's that and I just ignored it. thinking in my mind, wow that happened just when he put that on. I didn't say anything.

My 16 year old, within five minutes, says, “I feel really weird all of a sudden. I think it's that thing. He felt the exact thing. He said, “I feel like head pressure.”  He described the exact same symptoms that I said. My little ones in the back were just, yeah, they were feeling it too. I don't know if it was because we were in the front or they were younger, the bucket was bigger. I don't know. Anyway, Daniel immediately said, “Let's turn that thing off.”  Turned it off and immediately we both felt this pwhaa, go away.

We both were left though for a certain set of symptoms. It took me a couple of hours before I felt normal again. Daniel was normal within about a half an hour.

Phil:
What kind of symptoms, brain fog—

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, brain fog. We both were just sunk; that's the only way we could describe it. It happened to me again. If you have the hotspot thing, right, your thumb. My hotspot was on—

Phil:
Don't point that thing at me!

Dr. Pompa:
I put the thing—my hotspot was on and I had the phone next to my ear and I got that same feeling, much more mild so the signal must not have been strong.

Warren:

You didn't know that was on.

Dr. Pompa:
I didn't know it was on. I was like, “Gosh I had those feelings again.”  I literally started looking for electro because I identified feelings and I turned off. The point is this, you're sick, you don't feel well, you have a certain set of symptoms, you don't have the energy you used to have. I believe we have an innate intelligence within our body where the body is adapting it can heal, and it will heal. There is a limitation in that meaning that your body can—we can't expect, what's see the analogy I'm looking for, I had a really good one in my mind. There's a limitation to what your body is able to do, a limitation to the matter in your cells.

If I smash my hand with a hammer, there's only so much healing—even if I had no interference, perfect, absolutely—there's still going to be permanent damage. There's a limitation to matter because this is not divine.

There's a limitation to your matter that limits you—the point is if your body is able to adapt, your body can heal. What's keeping it from adapting, and I think that's the question we should all ask ourselves if you want to go to the next level. Even if you feel healthy watching this, I'm a healthy guy I want to be healthier, I want for perform better, everything about physical performance, Phil, is about adaptation. Good trainers are always looking at their clients and saying, how can I get you to do that.

Phil:
Good trainers, not most trainers.

Dr. Pompa:
I said good. How can we get you to adapt. I was saying the other day about Lance Armstrong put massive time into training hard, stressing the body at its limits and then most of his time into resting, adapting, really—that creates the strength.

Phil:
You know what's funny? When people hear Lance Armstrong as a reference they pay attention. Whatever he's doing I want to do. I asked you the question once because you deal with a lot of people, and I'm going to use a word. By the time they get to you, they're crazy.

Dr. Pompa:
I was crazy too.

Phil:
Okay, so you understand. They're crazy because they're affected by things that—so the common person cannot be. In other words, somebody says, “Every time I go near by refrigerator my head feels like it's melting.”  They fall into the category of, “This is a crazy person.”

Warren:
The body's telling him something.

Phil:
I really think it's the old canary and the hormone thing. If it's affecting people whose bucket has overflowed at that level, then it must be affecting you and everybody else. They're still putting stuff in their pocket.

Phil:
Yeah. All of these things, I think we look at these people who are crazy, where we once were, it's not so much they're crazy, it's the world doesn't understand them.

Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely!

Phil:
That's what happens. You become isolated and feel very alone because nobody quite gets it. Can you imagine that feeling trying to tell somebody, you have to unscrew that lightbulb, it's affecting me. Oh my God, got to be committed. Really this is an extreme of what I think everybody is experiencing.

Dr. Pompa:
Well that's the point I think we're making. We have things that are affecting our body's inability, or ability, to adapt. Imagine this; imagine if you're in a [pool] of doctors, if every doctor is trained from school that when somebody comes into their office, they would say, “Hm, you're not adapting. Let's figure out what’s in your life that's keeping you from adapting because ultimately that's the solution to you feeling better. How can we get your body to adapt at a higher level?  What can we remove from your body to empty that bucket so your body in fact does adapt?”  Isn't that everything? Isn't that what a good trainer does? It's like if we can get you to adapt, we can get you stronger and better.

Well when I have a client who is very sick, I look at that person. Something's keeping their innate intelligence, that something that God put in their body from healing, you know we got to deal with it not adapting. We change their lifestyle. We detox them at the cellular level. Ultimately it does boil down to what's happening in the cell, but ultimately, it's just simply taking the stressors out of their life.

Phil:
When you talk about adaptation, there's another piece of this adaptation we recognize so we bring about change because there's adaptation. When somebody adapts, the change stops. In other words that stimulus is no longer bringing about change. When somebody has to go through something difficult, a detox the first time they do it, it is difficult. It is perceived as a stress, but it is the necessary stress that allows them to move to the next level of adaptation. I think when practitioners and trainers and doctors start to understand that, patient care becomes very different than it is today.

Dr. Pompa:
It's safe to say that there's no way to avoid all stress. It's whether you're adapting at the cellular level or adapt —

Phil:
Yeah because we then have to be open to the patient. It has to be open to the idea that this will be hard. What we're going to ask you to do is going to be hard. Taking a pill is easy, this is a little harder because you have to swallow 17 pills but it's just much easier than what Dr. Pompa's going to ask you to do. We want the stress that's going to bring positive adaptation and we want to improve your health.

 Dr. Pompa:
Positive adaptation, yeah, I think that's the thing. The way people look at exercise, it's a stress folks. When you're exercising, you're creating a stress. Now that can be very negative. A lot of my clients, they can't exercise because it's a stress they don't adapt to so it makes them more sick. It makes them feel worse. Therefore, something that helps many people becomes a negative.

I know when I was sick some people say, just pick up your boot straps and exercise more. Now I've got people's attention because there's a lot of guilt of saying, I know that my husband or my wife when they exercise they have more energy, so I just exercise more. They exercise more and the next day they feel worse. They feel more tired. What's happening is you're not adapting to a stress that makes somebody else stronger because they're adapting.

I think we can look at that as anything. We're never going to get rid of all the chemicals in our life, but see when you empty your stress bucket, now you're adapting to those chemicals. Therefore you can live life, not that too much of anything like that, too much of any stressor's going to send your body overflow, but the key is adaptation.

Phil:
This is kind of a miracle of a child taking on a bacterial infection and their immune system developing to fight it. It is the stressor and then the adaptation that actually makes them stronger. If the stressor becomes overwhelming or they can't recover, then you start to get negative adaptation. Things like that.

Dr. Pompa:
It's the whole negative of [helicopter] parents. Sorry moms and dads that are out there that are helicopter parents but it's true. If you're trying to take away every stress from your child, you're going to do your child a disservice because now all of a sudden when there's an unavoidable stress, they don't know how to react, they don't know how to adapt.

Our immune systems are the same way. Using every antibacterial thing, we're actually killing off defenses that our body puts out to adapt. That's an adaptation that our body forms these bacteria. Therefore, if we kill that now we've just killed our body's natural adaptation because we think we're going to beat the germ, we think we're going to beat the stress, we're not, bad philosophy.

Gosh, there's a lot here; this is a great subject. I think it is a great subject. So many people are sick today. I believe the root of why people aren't getting well today, I believe we're at the root of why…

Phil:
You guys were champing off right now by doing show, bad advice. When people say, “Just exercise, you'll feel better.”  You just explained how in many cases that could be the wrong thing to do. One of the most frequently heard expressions I hear related to nutrition, everything in moderation, which means diets only in moderation.

Dr. Pompa:
Moderation for you is different to moderation for me.

Phil:
That's the worst advice.

Dr. Pompa:
Yes, it is.

Phil:
Eat things that are really bad for you just a little; that's moderation. I think that people are—remember Lucy in Charlie Brown had a little advice stand,  the doctor is in. That's people; they're playing amateur psychologist, saying, “Oh yes, stop eating carbs.”  Oh yes. Eat everything in moderation. This is okay but you have to limit —

They're not experts and I think there's this idea that everybody knows, but what's interesting is if you look at the ‘everybody' they're suffering as much as the person they're giving advice to.

Dr. Pompa:
When comments like that are made, they trigger something in all of us that sounds so, “They're right, so logical.”

Warren:
Don't complicate your life.

Dr. Pompa:
Yeah. It sounds so logical. Yeah because we all heard that, yeah moderation, you're right. Then it almost gives you a license then to go back to the same moderation that got you sick, by the way. What moderation is what you're doing every day, day in, day out.

Phil:
Right so there's my little bit of aspartame, there's my little bit of crystal meth; I'm just going to do everything in moderation.

Dr. Pompa:
A little bit of arsenic.

Phil:
With some vegetables, little bit of vegetables.

Dr. Pompa:
That's good.

Phil:
There's balance, yes.

Dr. Pompa:
It's easier to get people to eat a little bit of vegetables or take that green juice powder and go, I'm doing healthy things, right. Then really look at their entire life. They would rather add something to an unhealthy life, and say, “Now I'm really doing well because I'm drinking juice.” When people get around me they immediately start saying these things that they've had. “I'm drinking a lot juice; I'm juicing now.” Are you still drinking your soda? Are you still eating your white bread? “Yeah, but I'm juicing”.

Warren:
You might think this is weird and we got to wrap up, it's a 40-minute show today. I've looked at probably about 20 houses; I'm looking for a new home, potentially. What I do, I'm looking in the cupboard for space but I'm taking mental pictures of what's in the cupboards. I'm able to sample and get into the homes of 20 people. Call that weird but I'm really looking to see what—not me, when you look in my cupboard it's way different to Dr. Pompa's. Before in a past show, you went into his cupboard but I notice what they have.

What I do see is the castor fish oil, the multivitamin, and maybe a green drink, and then a, I won't promote them, but a Ninja or a bullet or something like that, so I know these people are trying to be healthy. Then sometimes I notice medications, most times. That's not because I'm looking for it; I'm looking for cupboard space. That's America. They're on medications and they're trying to do the fish oil. They're exercising; they have a workout—I see a big workout ball, some dumbbell's that they're probably not using but that's what I see. Fish oil, a green drink, a magic bullet and —

Dr. Pompa:
A workout device in the corner.

Warren:
A workout device in the corner  or some sort of thing they bought on TV and that's it. I look at pictures, not that I'm judging, you're beautiful people, but they're all overweight or inflamed looking. You wouldn't look at them and say, “Hey, you're overweight.” For me, you're skinny, fat or you're inflamed; this person isn't healthy. I don't say that from an arrogance standpoint. It breaks my heart because these people are doing the wrong things because they're taking the moderate advice.

Phil:
Have you heard doctors, mainstream doctors, MDs, saying all the patient wants is medication. They don't want to take responsibility. Have you heard that?

Dr. Pompa:
All the time!

Phil:
Yeah.

Warren:
That frustrates the doctor a lot of the time.

Phil:
Yeah, it frustrates the doctor because the person comes in asking for medication that either their friend told them that was bad advice, or a TV commercial, so they're just following orders. They're coming in and asking for the medication. There's an example of bad advice. The people you're talking about, they tried.

Warren:
They already tried.

Phil:
Says nothing about the people being lazy.

Warren:
No, not at all, not all.

Phil:
This has everything to do with wrong information, misinformation and disinformation. When you come along, these are the people that need rescuing, and the rescue comes from the right information. The question is where do they get it.

Dr. Pompa:
When Warren went through those things, all of them, all 180° principle, meaning that the funny thing is that the truth is exact opposite. All those things, even down to the fish oil that they think is helping them is actually hurting them. What got you here, the answer always lies 180°s in the opposite direction. That's it.  We really evaluated how someone got there in their life not happy with certain things, the answer is opposite. When everyone's making a right, make a left; there your answer lies. That's it!  That's our principle, man, cellular 180°s opposite.

Warren:
Cellular Healing TV, great episode. Thanks for joining us. Thanks for jumping in, Phil. Share it with a friend. We share truth, cellularhealing.tv. Share us and like us on iTunes as well. Have a great rest of your day, or weekend.

Dr. Pompa:
The article, real fast, the Michael J. Fox article, is it up on the site?

Warren:
Yeah, if you went the drpompa.com, you could go underneath Articles but it should be also that front banner that shows up, make it really easy. It took me probably five seconds, and I'll save you the time configuring out, but the lettering looks like “Back to the Future”. Where did they use that lettering? I'm like, “Oh yes!  Michael J. Fox”  “Back to the Future”, great show. I'm from the '80s. Watch Michael J. Fox this weekend. Watch some “Back to the Future”.

Dr. Pompa:
Read the article.

Warren:
Think about what led up to his demise and do the 180° opposite. Don't drink diet soda guys. Get your life back. Have a great rest of your day. Bye.

 

 

 

 

43: Losing Fat & Improving Health

Transcript of Episode 43: Losing Fat and Improving Health

With Dr. Daniel Pompa, Warren Phillips, David Asarnow and special guest Phil Kaplan.


Warren: Good morning! Welcome to our live show, Cellular Healing TV. We have a special guest with us this morning. Dr. Pompa can't join us; he is actually traveling.

Phil:
What do you mean special? Special how?

Warren:
You're special. I spent a day and a half—

Phil:
Yeah. You mean that in a good way?

Warren:
Yeah, it is a good thing, a special—we'll call you unique. That's not a good word either.

Phil:
I'll take special as long as it's used in the right way.

Warren:
Special and unique, yes, Phil Kaplan. Dave's going to be joining us in just a minute. Phil is a mentor to us and he's now helping us mentor a lot of our physicians through the Platinum Program where we have physicians that we train around the world. He's been onboard helping us serve those doctors, making them better. As a matter of fact, one of his programs, he trains the top fitness professionals in the world is called the Be Better program, so he's helping us be better.

-Technical Issues-

Phil:
Who is special now?

Warren:
I am; I am the special guy. Phil, if you don't know, has been on thousands of TV and radio shows across his career. He's been a leading fitness professional for over 30 years. Worked with Joe Weider; had his own health and wellness radio show, very, very popular. He has a great radio voice once you hear him speak here in a minute. He also has what's been really revolutionary; he's developed what is called the Alive program.

Phil:
Protocol.

Warren:
Protocol, which is in—

Phil:
Let me tell you why because the medical industry does not respect the word ‘program'. In other words, if there is a program—I can say people are losing fat; they’ll say, yeah, so? If it's a protocol, it's a specific regimen. That's what the medical field responds to. If there's evidence, if the regimen brings about results again and again and again and again, if they can see consistent trending toward better health through a protocol, they receive it.

That's been a hurdle. How do I get the stoic medical field to open up to the idea that people can actually be responsible with their own health, for their own betterment without necessarily going down that path of medications. There are two words I found them very responsive to, ‘intervention' and ‘protocol'. What Alive is, it's an exercise in eating intervention, delivered in the format of a very specific eight-week protocol. Between you and me, it's a fitness program.

Warren:
It's working. Did you have it in one of the John Coughlan's-type hospital? What hospital did you—I guess you can't really name the program, so we don't know which hospitals it is, we don't want to divulge that information. People are through getting off their medications and moving into a place of wellness, which is our philosophy, remove the cause, get to the root cause of the disease. It's not an outside-in approach, it's inside out; the body can heal itself.

Phil:
Let's start with this—

Warren:
I'm going to get David on the line because he's not [dialed-in]. I'll handle that; you get started.

Phil:
I want to talk to you.

Warren:
All right, talk to me.

Phil:
I want to talk to them.

Warren:
Yeah, talk to them.

Phil:
I think that we frequently hear people say, “It doesn't work!”  You hear that?

Warren:
Yep.

Phil:
What doesn't work? Well the drug they were taking doesn't work. The program they're on doesn't work. The diet they're on doesn't work. The exercise program doesn't work. What they tend to do is globalize. If somebody tries a program—we're almost at New Year's, so everybody's in this crazy time of year right now where they just throw away sanity. They go, “There's no way I can eat better. There's no way I can get fit right now,” so they just indulge in this glutinous behavior. The salvation at the end of it is the New Year's resolution.

They believe that come New Year's they'll stop eating all their favorite foods. They'll start working out two hours a day. They'll sleep eight hours a day. They'll change their lives. Then three weeks later, they come to this conclusion it doesn’t work, right?

Warren:
Yeah. That would be the topic of today's show. We named it “Losing Fat and Improving Health”, but with the New Year's coming up, let's find out why these folks make those resolutions, indulge, say, Thanksgiving, December. Come January 1st, I'm going to transform my life and they don't. Ultimately, the buzz word is, hey, if I can—if I said, “Hey, Phil, if you had a group of people in front of you, you'd say, “Hey, I'm going to get you all healthy.”  Would they respond?

Phil:
Would they respond?

Warren:
Yeah.

Phil:
Not if they're not sick.

Warren:
Right.

Phil:
In other words if you're dealing with sick people and you go, “We're going to get you healthy.”  They go, “Yes please.”  If you did it with people who are reasonable unwell, meaning not at their best, you go there's Cellular Health. They're not going to jump.

Warren:
What if you were in front of the room and said, “Look, I can shed, through this protocol, ten pounds of fat.”

Phil:
Hands go up everywhere.

Warren:
Hands up everywhere. What we want to do on today's show is figure out how everyone can raise their hand today about not only losing fat but about getting healthy in the process. You get what you ultimately want; through the process you're going to get what you need. Phil is one of those experts that can help us get there.

Phil:
Let me start with this, the No. 1 reason that people fail to get the fitness/weight loss/health result they want, the No. 1 reason, and I'm a bit [selfish], you tell me if you agree; if you don't then they're being misled.

Warren:
Correct.

Phil:
It's almost like if I said to you, “Warren, here's a shovel, go outside, dig a hole to China.”  You can try with the best intentions, but you're probably never going to get there.

Warren:
Right, never.

Phil:
Let's take it a step further. Let's say I give you a shovel and say, “Dig a hole to the moon.”  No way in the world. What if I give you the best shovel? What if I get you that big steam shovel? It's still not going to get you to the moon, right?

Warren:
Nope.

Phil:
It's in effective technology. If I said to you, “I want you to make ice cubes but I want you to do it by boiling water.”  Never get there.

Warren:
No.

Phil:
Here's an example of how that applies to people who are trying to lose weight. They're told to go on a calorie-restricted diet. That's digging a hole for themselves. If it's only about taking in fewer calories, it's going to backfire. This is what, historically, people do with their New Year's resolution. They go, “I'm going to eat. I'm not going to worry about it because New Year's I'm starting my diet.”  Whether they go on some commercially recognized diet or they read a book, it comes down to they're going from a place where they're eating 3,000 calories a day of sugar and fat and everything in between—

Warren:
I have my Slimfast showing up first, or I have my Nutra program showing up. Now it's organic so it's even more healthier, right?

Phil:
Right. For the first week of that new program, they get on the scale and they've lost five of the nine pounds they gained over the holidays.

Warren:
That's awesome!

Phil:
Yeah. In that first week, emotionally they feel great. They're not loving the food, or they're not loving the absence of food, but in the moment they get on the scale they feel great. Second week they get on the scale and they lost another two. Now they're a little disappointed because the first week they lost five, now they only lost two, but they're still with it.

Then the third week something horrible happens. They get on the scale and they're still eating their little packages of food and drinking their delicious-tasting shakes, but the scale says the same thing it said the week before. It's stopped. That's when they come to this global decision, the diet doesn't work for me. Somehow there's something about them that is preventing the diet from working.

I want you to think about this. The weight loss industry is the only industry in the world where people fail to get what they pay for and they blame themselves.

Warren:
That's an emotional sledgehammer.

Phil:
There's more than that because there's also chemical sledgehammer. When they've stopped eating, in essence, and they've cut back to 800 calories a day, without guidance as to how to do this healthily, they're body wants to survive. It has these great little innate build-in mechanisms that drive them to the nutrient that will give then the quickest energy and the nutrient that will give them the longest-lasting energy. The one that will give them the quickest energy is glucose.

Warren:
Right.

Phil:
The one that'll give them the longest-lasting energy is fat, so they start getting cravings. They're not craving broccoli; they're craving sugar and they're craving fat. This is innate. This is the human body's way of trying to protect it, but they don't understand that. They have misinformation. They were told that this is the path to long-term health and weight loss. It's not, it's the path to frustration. As soon as they go off that diet and they give into the cravings, which they will do—

Warren:
It can't help hormones.

Phil:
All of the weight comes back.

Warren:
They should call this diet plan, the failure plan.

Phil:
The repetitive failure; they do it every year.

David:
It's the yo-yo.

Phil:
They [know] dates and they know numbers.

David:
It's the yo-yo failure plan. Hey Phil!

Warren:
If you noticed I was distracted a little point during the show, I was actually emailing Dave.

David:
Trying to get me on; we were having technical challenges.

Warren:
Technical challenges, even on great radio stations and podcasts like Cellular TV.

Phil, last week what we discussed was detox versus diet because there is the detox component, which I know you're aware of, so sometimes people eat the perfect diet and not lose weight. That’s last week's show so that's the people that are weight-loss resistant due to toxicity inflammation of the cellular levels. We did talk about calorie restriction and the rebound effect. even on a good diet, you do calorie restriction and lose that ten pounds and then it rebounds back on versus detoxification along with the proper diet. That's last week's show. Make sure you watch that.

Honestly, we're now live in iTunes, so if you put in Cellular Healing TV you can download up to a year of these shows now as podcast free on iTunes. If you're watching, look us op on iTunes and you can download that. There's also some links. If you're watching the show right now, you'll be getting an email, you may have even received it right now, where you can download and join our podcast on iTunes and then you can watch a lot of them—listen to these shows, not watch them, but you have to be tuned in. That's my little plug for our last show and for iTunes.

David, what were you saying?

David:
I've no idea. I had no idea what I was saying. However, I was listening in before you were able to get me on and this is a really important topic during this time of year. In fact, you know it's funny my 17 year old daughter came to me yesterday and said, “Dad, I need to do a cleanse what do I do? I want to lose weight.”  I'm like, “Betty, you don't need to lose weight; you just need to change how you're eating. Stop eating the bread. Stop eating, you know—.”

What kind of advice would you give to our viewers who, for the first time, may not have said—how do they change that mindset? They're going to purge their body and do it the right way and not yo-yo back.

Phil:
The first thing is they have to understand that the idea of the calorie, in my mind and you can, again, disagree if you don't agree, is archaic. It's an old measure. The take a device called a calorimeter – you can build your own, it's not hard to do – and they're assessing how much heat does it required to take one kilogram of water and raise it one degree Celsius. That's what a calorie is.

What does that have to do with food? Well there's this believe, there's this assumption that because your body is a furnace and because your body is a heat machine, it's going to extract energy from the food and burn it up as heat.

David:
Yeah, a calorie is a calorie. I worked with the—

Phil:
It's not!

Warren:
I know it's not.

Phil:
This is why I said people are misinformed.

Warren:
Most, maybe not most of you watching this but most of that have followed our stuff, our information and Dr. Pompa's information, but 90% of the world believe that we are a furnace. Even high end fitness professionals, even they're moving our direction—

Phil:
Calories in versus calories out.

Warren:
I'm a furnace. What do you eat for lunch and dinner to be this amazing triathlete, and what I've heard from some top triathletes, it doesn't matter; just burn the furnace harder. That's what they tell me, just burn it harder. Put whatever you want it, it's calories in, calories out, but it harder, you'll burn it off. They're ripped and they're lean and it's true to an extent.

Phil:
They're triathletes. Their metabolism is different. Their machine is different. Now you take the average person and you cut them back on calories. Let's think about it this way. If you were to eat 1200 calories a day of a good combination of lean proteins and natural complex carbohydrates with the right essential fats, would your body look and feel the same as if you were to eat 1200 calories a day of ice cream sundaes over the course of a year?

Warren:
I just saw something on YouTube. A guy did sodas. He was ripped and lean and did the ice cream, or the soda diet, if you will, and he looked like he aged 20 years in about ten weeks.

David:
Well, as Phil just said, it's how you feel, look and feel.

Warren:
It's how you feel, yeah, obviously.

Phil:
Clearly, there's a difference between consuming your calories from sugar and consuming your calories from good nutrients that have biological value, so it can't just be about the calories. Let's get rid of the idea that calories matter. I think in re-educating people as to what does matter, one of the things is they have to recognize that food is two things for them. No. 1, it is anabolism. It is the material they're going to use to build new health cells. Somewhere they have to get that material into their body.

Warren:
Yeah, we shut ourselves some—our lung lining daily, those sort of things. Our cells are regenerating constantly, over a period of seven years we regenerate every single cell in our body.

Phil:
It would make sense that if we want quality cells, which we do, right, if you want quality health, you want quality cellular health, that you would want quality nutrients going into your body. It's not about the calories; it's about the quality for anabolism. However, if we only ate for anabolism, if that was the only intention, we just ate amino acids so we could build new cells, your body would metabolize those amino acids because it needs to burn them up as fuel.

Eating is two-fold. You're eating for anabolism and you're eating for fuel. When you understand that, it's not so much about not eating, it's more about what do you put in, I think we can very quickly identify the evil villain that is most responsible for the escalating obesity and diabetes problem in America, and that is sugar. The average American consumes 170 pounds of sugar a year.

Warren:
It's a lot of sugar?

Phil:
It's a lot of sugar, and that's the average. That's not a sugarholic. That's not saying, a guy who eats a lot of sugar; that's the average per capita average. The sugar lobby is very powerful. The sugar marketing is very strong. Anything that comes out that threatens the sale of sugar is going to get somehow exposed as something negative, and sugar is addictive.

I think of the most important things is for people to gain control of their sugar intake. To stabilize blood sugar, so they stop the erratic ups and downs. Given the choice, a diet focused on calories or a diet that frees you from the plague of sugar is only one answer.

David:
One of the things that Dr. Pompa talks about a lot is the carbohydrate. You have bread, it turns right into sugar within your body, and it has that same kind of effect.

Warren:
Even whole healthy grains.

David:
Yeah.

Warren:
Again, that depends on the individual, whether they can handle ancient grains, healthy grains, it's definitely an individual—

David:
When you say grains, ancient grains are something totally different than—

Warren:
Your wheat bread that you think is healthy is just not bleached. It's still all the just sugar extracted into the bread. Many of the viewers watching this, we have a great viewership today because we just sent out the emails, so there's a lot of people watching. I love this information that we're sharing. It's on a basic simple level, but honestly that's what we need to be sharing and transforming their minds through education because it's not about calories in, calories out. It's a really unique topic.

You brought up a great strategy and you're a great teacher. Anabolism, which is for replacing your cells so that to make you better from the inside out, rebuilding yourself at the cellular level, like little building blocks, you have a trillion cells, which are—I just had an analogy, maybe it's good maybe it's not, but I read to my the Three Little Pigs story. If you have a weak anabolism—

Phil:
It's a good story.

Warren:
She makes sure that I say it perfectly and she's three years old and she's, like “No, you huff and puff and I'll blow your house—,” and I say ‘on', she's like, “No, it's blow you house in, daddy!” If  your cells are made of straw versus wood versus brick, now obviously we know cells made of bricks, would be the most resilient, which would deliver the most protection, would look the best long term. It's not going to rot and mold and those sorts of things.

I think a lot of people are building their anabolism by just doing the energy, just eating sugar for energy, that's causing oxidation, glucose spikes, aging, your building your body on a straw again and again and again you're going to get the same result. Originally you may be built of bricks but you're going to straw, especially with age, what you eat and what you're rebuilding your house with, which is your body.

You can start with straw but if you start eating healthy fats, grass fed, the things that we talk about on this show, you can move from a straw house to a brick house and then you can look like Phil.

Phil:
Which is a brick house!

Warren:
Yeah.

Phil:
The bottom line here is very simple, eat bricks.

Warren:
I didn't say the analogy was going to work for sure.

Phil:
The Warren Phillips diet program, eat bricks.

Warren:
Eat bricks.

David:
Eat bricks.

Phil:
It's about the quality of the nutrients you put .

Warren:
Versus just the energy.

Phil:
There are two other things that are really important to understand. One is we are not victims of our metabolisms; we are the creators of it.

Warren:
Good point.

Phil:
Everything we've learned about epigenetics and the ability to switch the way the genes express themselves, metabolism is something that many people will come to me or a fitness center and they go, “I just have a rotten metabolism. My mom had a bad one. My grandmother had a bad one. As if on the day they were giving out metabolisms, they just got in the wrong line, right.

It's really about lifestyle and habits because they eat the same way and they behave the same way as their mom, who eats and behaves the same way as their grandmother. We feel like we're victimized by our metabolism until we learn how to take control of it. That's just one important preface before anybody gets on a program trying to lose fat. You've got to get on a program that feeds your metabolism, not so much just about eating anything, but you've got to be concerned about the change you're capable of making.

If you've tried something in the past and it didn't work; it doesn't work. Don't go back to that same thing, but don't mistakenly believe that you are now stuck with this metabolism. You just haven't unlocked it yet. You just haven't fully learned, and that's why I say people are misled. When they get the right information, suddenly they become empowered.

Just like they're not victims of their metabolisms, they're not victims of their appetite. When you talk to somebody who is given a label of being a car addict, or a sugarholic, they're not. That's not a disease that they inherited. That's a self-induced condition and it can be reversed. Then what they'll say is, “I can't be because you just don't understand, I crave sugar.”

Warren:
I hear it all the time.

Phil:
You created that. You are not a victim of those cravings; you created them, and if you created them, you can uncrave them.

David:
It's like a drug addict. What do they have to go through? They have to go through an extended detox period. Then because they have these addictions, they got to go to support groups to help people prevent them from getting back on. Well it's not any different when it comes to sugar cravings. I mean it's powerful!

Warren:
It is powerful.

I'm going to make a point. People listening on the podcast now and the viewers, Dr. Pompa is travelling today, so we have Phil Kaplan with us, if you're just joining us. I see viewers popping on. Phil Kaplan and David are with us today; Dr. Pompa's travelling. If you're joining us, this is the right show. Dr. Pompa's typically on it. Cellular TV, welcome!  Thank you for joining the show.

Even last night, just to carry on with that thought of the addiction, we were at dinner last night, I'm not going to name names with who, but they said if bread shows up, I can't help myself. If bread is there, I'm going to do it, and that's as hormonal issue. They are carboholics, and a lot of them confess, I'm a carboholic, but that isn't your destiny. You can change that and that's what Phil's saying is that through education, a lot of the times just someone saying, “I don't have to be a carboholic. I don't have to have a slow metabolism, is that what you're saying to me right now?”  That's exactly what Phil's saying to you right now.

You are not doomed. We're giving you hope. It's through education.

Phil:
Warren, I really wish that it were simple enough so that we could say to people, yes, just eat cabbage soup and that's going to be all you do.

Warren:
The cabbage soup diet.

Phil:
Yeah. It's not that simple. It's not as simple to even say give up the bad refined bleached carbohydrates. It's not enough. There are lots of moving parts here, and a moving part that I'm sure you guys have addressed before is the food companies are not your friends.

Warren:
No!

Phil:
The food companies have an agenda and it's very different to your agenda. Their agenda is not to make you well. Their agenda is to manufacture foods that you will buy again and again and again. They want to do it cheap and charge you. That's what they want. That's their agenda. It has nothing to do with health.

Warren:
Sole purpose.

Phil:
They are pulling you into this place where you feel like you fit, and you say, “If the bread shows up, I have to eat it.”  This is where personal responsibility really comes in. the reason my protocol is eight weeks is because there's no way to give somebody the answer in 30 minutes and have them go, “I got it!  Now I know what to eat.”

Warren:
Sure.

Phil:
It really requires a re-education. They need to understand about [jam ups]. This is not conspiracy theory; this is the real deal. They're putting foods in the body that look like good healthy foods that are actually destructive. When you're trying to build the brick house, if you're putting in foods that are destructive, there's no way it's going to work. It doesn't mean it doesn't work; it means nobody taught you how to do it right.

David:
Well like changing the gene expression and going back, it comes down to the brick house is the cell that can actually receive hormones, it can communicate. When we put all the toxins and the sugars in our body, what happens is things become blunted and that's why we have so many autoimmune challenges these days. That's why we have weight loss resistance. What you're talking about is right food in consistently and opening up your detox pathways, through giving your body a chance to reduce cellular inflammation, it makes it easier for you. Is that what I'm hearing or am I adding words? Maybe a little of both!

Phil:
That's what you're hearing.

David:
Good!

Phil:
That's what we got.

Warren:
The body wants to be well; it really does. It's not like your body wakes up and says, “I want to be sick today, or I want to get less healthy on a daily basis,” but if that's what you're doing to it, it's adapting. It's an amazing, adapting tool and mechanism. One of the things that we shared even last night is sometimes we don't realize—even through Cellular Healing TV we get a lot of positive feedback, “Dr. Pompa I watching your show and it's transformed my life.”  Why is that?

It's because they start doing the right things, liked David said, consistently. You didn't build Rome in a year. You didn't build your brick body in a year, or your cells, which are made of actually fat and that's why you use brick mortars to make it stick, to make it through but that's getting complicated. It does take time to rebuild that anabolism over time. What happens is the hormone switch happens and it can happen pretty quickly, especially if you get rid of all greens and all sugars, and permanently. I have zero cravings, unless after I work out I get hungry and I think that's a growth hormone issue; I'm not sure why that happens.

Phil:
Let's talk about working out because I know we're limited for time.

Warren:
We do need to get there, yeah. Another fallacy and another great topic.

Phil:
Just like we now understand that it is possible to eat less and not lose weight, right?

Warren:
Right.

Phil:
It is possible to get on a diet that somebody told you was a good one and wind up less healthy, correct?

Warren:
Correct.

Phil:
Just as that is the case, it is possible to exercise and break your body down, and it's a mistake I see lots of people make. When we talk about the New Year's resolution, when you have the person who started on Halloween, they ate some of their kids' candy, and they go, “You know what? This year—

Warren:
New Years.

Phil:
Yeah, New Years, I'm going to get fit. Now it gives then license to eat anything they want through the whole holiday season.

Warren:
I'm going to burn it off!  I'm burning it off, man!

Phil:

They join the gym. Now I'll tell you this, some health clubs, and I've been in this industry a long time, some health clubs do 25% of their revenue for the entire year in the month of January. Just think about that, 25% of their revenue, for the year, in the month of January.

David:
Why?

Phil:
Because of the New Year's resolution!  If you do into a gym on January 3rd, you see everybody with their new workout outfits that they got for Christmas and their brand new Nikes.

Warren:
Lulu Lemon!

Phil:
You go there January 22nd, the same people are there who were there in December. Why does this huge sea of people fail all at the same time? The approach is wrong. It's too much too soon. It's jumping in with both feet when you need to start with the toe in the water. People say, “Now that I've got to lose the weight, I'm going to—.” Personal trainers feed this, unfortunately.

Personal trainers think it's their job to give you a good workout. When we take the individual with a rotten metabolism, who is not conditioned, who is not good at oxygenating themselves or their body, and pushed them through a one-hour intense workout, were doing them more harm than good.

Warren:
If you're one of those broken down people and you're going to join CrossFit, is that a good or bad idea?

Phil:
If you're a broken down person, it's a bad idea.

CrossFit is wonderful for many people. I love the competitive element where you're competing against yourself.

Warren:
In the community, yeah.

Phil:
If you are fit or near fit, CrossFit maybe a very good avenue.

Warren:
For me, you'd think I was fit, and I started working out with a health coach. Almost a year and a half later, I may be able, I think, to do CrossFit healthily, in a good way. I'm just saying it took me a while to get there.

Phil:
Here’s the key though, here's the piece of information you need to understand. It is not about the intensity or the volume of the exercise.

Warren:
Okay.

Phil:
It is about the balance between stress and recovery.

David:
I think what I'm hearing you say, Phil, and I've experienced it after years of prolonged inactivity in the past, is you go with as trainer, they push you really hard, and all of a sudden for the next week you feel like your body's falling apart. I guess you want to know why people don't stay with it, they feel the pain. It's pain and pleasure. What do people want?  They want to move away from the pain more than they want the pleasure. Then they get so sore, then they have all these things, and like I don't want to deal with it and all of a sudden they stop. Is that what you're saying that's why?

Phil:
It's more than that. It's more insidious than that because it's not so much that you're always feeling the break down that's taking place in your body but—let's back up. We would say the root cause of all chronic disease is inflammation, right?

Warren:
I would agree.

Phil:
Okay, so when you place too much stress in, I think you talk about the stress bucket, you put too much stress in there, then it drives inflammation. Well exercise is stress.  You take a stressed out person whose bucket is overflowing and now we're going to bring you into the gym.

Warren:
Add more stress.

Phil:
We've just added stress. It's really about the balance between stress load and recovery. Here's something that's really interesting. C-reactive protein is a biomarker that we could use to assess systemic inflammation.

Warren:
Right, yeah.

Phil:
If you are very inflamed, your CRP will be elevated. There is a correlation between heart rate recovery and reduction in CRP. In other words, when we can get somebody into their parasympathetic nervous system, and if we need to translate that we will, but if we can get their parasympathetic nervous system to become stronger, make them better at recovery, their inflammation goes down.

David:
Interesting!

Phil:
When you do too much exercise, or on the other hand you don't recover, you drive further inflammation. Every disease you have over time is perpetuated, even if you're in the gym.

Warren:
That's, from someone who's been sick and been down the route, Warren, you're unhealthy, you're not sleeping well, you're stressed, I just go exercise more, but my stress bucket was full. Again, the reason we're sharing this information is that you may have been failing because you're getting misinformation.

Phil:
I don't know if you're going to believe this right now. When people start with the Alive protocol, the first week they do six minutes of aerobic exercise, period. That's it.

Warren:
You've got them moving.

Phil:
Not only do we have them moving, but we do it where we incorporate, what I call all-out bursts. Within the 6 minutes, twice for 12 seconds a pop, you're going to hit it as hard as you can as fast as you can. That is the sympathetic stimulation. That is the fighter flight response. That is your body suddenly being asked to kick it up. Then 12 seconds later, you recover. We are training recovery. We're training the body to get better at recovery.

David:
I like it!

Phil:
The following week we add something, the following week we add something. Four weeks into the program now your entire routine is about 22 minutes, but you're seeing a payoff.

Warren:
Massive payoff!

Phil:
It doesn't need to be immense volume of exercise. It doesn't have to be incredibly intense exercise.

Warren:
You don't have to hit the road for—start running an hour a day for five days a week.

Phil:
For most people that would be counterproductive. What's really cool is if we were to take an elite athlete and just use that same approach, six minutes with two all-out bursts that elite athlete is going to improve as well. Why? Their all-out burst is greater. Their personal intensity is greater. Their capacity is greater. What we're doing is we're challenging the body beyond what it's used to, but not we are not only allowing it, we are encouraging it, to recover.

As we remove the stresses, as we increase sleep and relaxation, now we can add to the exercise and that's when it starts to work. Stress, as we know, can be very positive or it can be very negative. Exercise is a stress, so the trick is let's use that stress in a way that really bring a great result. Let's not abuse it because it'll lead to breakdown of the body.

What we see with New Years is people don't eat enough, or don't eat enough of the right things, and they exercise too much. That's a path to drive inflammation and perpetuate disease.

Warren:
That's 90% of America.

David:
Phil, I have a question for you. I don't go to a CrossFit, I go to another type of program that's more high intensity but it's over the course of 30 minutes—it's cardio where you bring your heart rate up, you get it to a baseline, bring it up to advanced, all-out sprint then you walk, bring it back down.

Warren:
What they take you up to 70% of your max heart rate?

David:
No, 85, up to 85 max heart rate. Do that for 30 minutes. Then versus heavy weights, it's more light weights, lots of reps, changing up what you're doing, different body parts, using the TSX-type bands and straps like that in bursts. It sounds like what you're doing. You do it in bursts, then you have a rest and you go and change into something else. What's more effective, the heavy weight and longer term, or just do what you're doing, even though it's over the course of an hour, go up down, up down, up down? I'm curious.

Phil:
You know what, David? Your body is amazing. Not just yours everybody's.

Warren:
You have a nice body, though, David!

Phil:
Yeah, it is amazing. Your body is amazing.

David:
A lot better than it used to.

Warren:
Yeah, Mr. Chubby Face, but that's okay.

David:
It's been a year now, Warren, since I've started the program.

Warren:
That's awesome!  He looks like a different person every time we see him.

Phil:
It's amazing how the body can adapt. David, you ask a very good question, and the answer is there is no answer. The reason is because as your body adapts to what you're asking it to do, if you want to facilitate greater improvement, you've got to challenge it differently. Different modalities of exercise will bring about different outcomes, but if the goal is to get better and better and better, you got to change it up.

When people go what is the right way, there is no right way. What we have to look at is how do we challenging you more than you're used to being challenged and allow you to recover from it. As long as we can keep throwing a new stimulus at you, you're going to get better and better.

David:
Interesting!

Warren:
What he's doing, is it the same thing every week?

David:
Every day it's different. It's a different body part. It's totally mixed up. If you went every day, it'd be something totally different.

Phil:
I hear a lot of people say, “You know what? I'm doing this routine and it used to work and it doesn't work anymore.”

Warren:
Why is that?

David:
Which you talked about.

Phil:
Well how long have you been doing it? Seven years. Well clearly it doesn’t work anymore because what happens is you stress your body in a way that your body wants to respond. You say, okay muscles I haven't asked you to move 70 lbs 18 times before but now I'm going to ask you to do that. Then the muscles go, whoa, he's throwing something new at us.

David:
Muscle confusion.

Phil:
You need to change and then they change, but once they change they can handle the workload. If you keep doing the same workout, the muscles go, we got this; we don't have to change anymore. The same is true with the respiratory system and the circulatory system. It's about that balance between stress and recovery. Stress load versus recovery, which is really what I think cellular health comes down to. Human betterment, comes down to appropriate stress and adequate recovery.

Warren:
It's a great message and I'm so glad, Phil, you got to share it today. We do have to wrap up, it's passed our time. Is there any final comments, David, Phil you want to share with the people watching?

David:
I want to thank you for bringing this and let's do this again in the future. I nominate Phil to lead our workouts on the beach next week.

Warren:
Awesome! Yeah, we are going to meet up next week in West Palm and we will be doing the show, probably live—

David:
Live from my condo.

Warren:
Live from David's. Look guys, before we end the show I do want you to plug, to share CellularHealing.tv, not dot-com with your friends. Also, you can do to DrPompa.com, which many of you have found us through that website. At the top right, let me go there now. I could show my screen but it would take a little bit too long for me to do that for you. At the top right, there's should be a drop down and there is also on the sidebar where you can go to our recorded podcast. I just want to make sure that you know that that's there. Get right next to the shot button, the top right hand corner DrPompa.com, it says podcast. You can click that and go and download and listen to Dr. Pompa, little invite for you to join us through Cellular Health TV and you can watch us on Cellular Healing TV, and get on our mailing list to remind you, then subscribe to us on iTunes.

We're really proud of the team that put that together so that now you can download and listen to these. If you weren't able to stay on and listen to the whole show, you can listen to them now for the past year and download all of them right onto your iPod or MP3 player. That's my plug.

Thanks for watching guys.

David:
Thanks everyone.

Warren:
Have a great week. Don't do what the sheep are doing. Don't do what the ‘sheeple' are doing. Do something different this year. Have success with your New Year's resolutions. I'm all for them if you can create those wins, and that's what Phil was describing, a program that got you those wins. That moved you forward so you start realizing well I am shedding weight. I am feeling better. I'm having more energy. If you do it the way the world's telling you to do it, you're not going to get those wins in most cases. Calorie restriction is not going to get you those wins. Exercising a ton is not going to get you those wins.

What's going to get you the wins is doing something like the Alive program, eating the cellular healing diet, doing burst training. Starting small and progressing up. I had to do that and I'm getting some major wins. I put on 10 lbs of muscle this year and got leaner. That's not because I exercised a ton, it was all about diet and doing the right exercise like Phil prescribed.

Thanks again, hit hard. Love you guys! Thanks so much.

 

42: Holiday Dieting and Detox

Transcript of Episode 42: Holiday Dieting and Detox

With Dr. Daniel Pompa, Warren Phillips and David Asarnow.


Warren: Welcome everyone to Cellular Healing TV, Episode 42. I can’t read it on my screen, but I believe it is 42. It is the day after Thanksgiving. I do have my Thanksgiving beard on and a bunch of sunshine in my face. Let’s change that a bit. We have Dr. Dan Pompa and David Asarnow on with us today, and we have a really exciting topic for you, a big request. Everybody ate a little bit too much. Maybe drank a little too much yesterday, and we are shooting live from our homes here. We have the day off, but we never have the day off because we want to share these truths with you post-Thanksgiving. It’s Black Friday, but what can you do, everyone listening today, to deal with the Thanksgiving extra ten pounds, the holiday ten pounds, that you’re dealing with? A lot of the times, again, the 180 opposite that we hear all the time is, “I’ll just diet and eat less.” Dr. Pompa, if I get over 1,000 calories—Oh, boy, that always happens that way. So hold on. There’s no way to get around it yet. I haven’t figured out a way.

David: You just tried to…

Warren: Get around that little cliché in our system. I promise. I tried not to, and it happened anyway. But getting back to that, Dr. Pompa, I had 1,000 calories. Every time I eat more than that I gain the weight. That’s not healthy. That’s not right, or —

David: Well, I heard a statistic that on Thanksgiving that people eat up to 8,000 calories in one day.

Warren: That’s a huge amount of calories. So what can we really do to get our bodies to get rid of that extra weight? Is it really dieting that’s going to do it, or some of our topic today, what are some of the real solution, and does detox play a huge role, and how do we detox that holiday fat off of our bodies, Dr. Pompa?

Dr. Pompa: First of all, I hate the calorie conversation. So I know that wasn’t your intent, but it’s a good conversation, I guess, because right now, if you turned on any television, you’re going to hear about calories. Like David said, right, he already heard 8,000 calories, 8,000 calories. Now you’ve heard me say that weight loss has very little if anything to do with calories, and I know that’s a 180° concept right there because that’s all everyone talks about. I always say that, hey, look. You can cut calories and lose, ladies, on average 10 maybe 15 pounds and for males, maybe 20. But then what happens after that? Your metabolism shifts down, and then you have to cut more calories, and then it has to shift down, and then you have to cut more, more, more. And for that extra 1 pound you have to, basically, eat nothing, and then you start gaining fat, right, because your body starts eating it’s muscle. It doesn’t work long-term. So caloric restriction is a bunch of crap, right? I mean, if you went to any country in the world that’s thin and lean, you never hear the word calories nor are they counting their calories. They eat until they're full. So the problem is it’s a cellular problem. That’s where the weight loss is, right? It’s a cellular problem. People, we say all the time that we go all day and we don’t eat. We forget that we’re even hungry. So we’re automatically, really, ingesting less calories in a day because we’re not hungry all the time, but yet, when we exercise and do more activity, we become more hungry. See, our bodies, our brains, are tied into our cells and our cell energies very well. So yes, I’m a fan of eating less calories, but I’m not a fan of forcing food away and saying, “Hey, I’m not going to be gluttonous. I’m not going to eat more.” So David, you have a puzzled look on your face. Is that a question you have for me, or is your computer malfunctioning?

David: It’s a computer thing I’m working through right now.

Warren: Well, there’s always the computer things that bother us.

Dr. Pompa: David, his eyebrows do these things that cause this massive expression of, okay. Go ahead. You can speak now. You’ve got something on your mind, or I should say, on your eyebrows.

David: Well, actually, while you were talking I was thinking of something. It’s not necessarily calories. It’s the food that we put in our mouths that makes the difference.

Dr. Pompa: Exactly, right? I mean, come on. I mean, it is. But, I mean, now back to the point, right. I mean, we can cut calories and lose a little bit of weight, but long-term, it doesn’t work. I mean, so one day of ingesting 8,000 calories, I mean, honestly, I do it on purpose. We’ve talked about how we carb load on a day, and just force the energy to remind our body it’s not starving. So one day, no big deal. Continue that process—I mean, look. Your body has to do something with the extra energy, but the point is is that you’re not going to do that unless you’re broken at the cellular level. Because last night, my wife and I just spoke this this morning, we had the most amazing meal. We both said the same thing. Darn, I wish I could’ve eaten more, meaning that we just couldn’t eat anymore. I mean, I was—literally, probably ate the smallest amount of food, and I was bummed out because I was—my brain was saying stop, so I couldn’t overeat. We were both wishing we could’ve overeaten.

Warren: Well, wait a minute. We’ll stop right there. Everybody’s watched the Hunger Games, right? Everyone has. And they take a little special drink…

David: No.

Dr. Pompa: I haven’t.

David: I haven’t.

Warren: They puke and get sick so they can eat more, so that’s really what you should do, just kidding. But in the society where they depict fun of our overeating, they eat that—drink that drink, but that’s just a side note because I want to—Hunger Games is huge right now, just released, just wanted to bring that out there.

David: I’ve never seen any of the Hunger Games episodes.

Warren: It’s huge and —

Dr. Pompa: I’ve never seen any of it either, but, right. When you’re eating quality nutrient dense food and your cells are normal, you eat and, all of a sudden, it’s like, “Gosh, I would love to keep eating. I just can’t.” It’s like I had no desire to eat. I probably ate fewer calories. My son, Simon, on the other hand, he put the food away. We were impressed. So Simon, I won’t go there, but if you know Simon, you know what I’m talking about. But the point is is that when your metabolism’s right, your cells are working right, your hormones are right, you can’t—uh-oh, something just happened to my computer now. I don’t know if you guys can even see me anymore.

Warren: We can see you. You just look good in your sweater. It’s popping back.

Dr. Pompa: Oh, yeah. Good. Yeah. Anyway, so your body—it’s very difficult to overeat. I mean, so these people who are taking in 8,000 calories, they’re eating all this completely processed food. These are empty calories. Their brain’s not getting the message from their cells to stop eating. So, yeah, is eating that many calories day in and day out good? No. You’re going to get fat. So in that sense, yeah, it can be about calories, but the point is is it’s not about calories when your cells are working good. I hope everyone understands that, and these are those situations where I wish we could take questions. But let’s talk about , Warren, where I know you were going because there is the real component of why people can’t lose weight today. And what’s happening around these times of years is people become more toxic, and therefore, more weight loss resistant, and they try diets. They try restricting calories, and you fail. And I want to talk about that too because there’s reasons for the failure that’s not your fault.

Warren: Right and one of the things, I want to do a little bit of a how-to today, Dr. Pompa. It’s like, okay, for today, let’s make the assumption, and I know that’s not the case. Most of our followers do make those right choices, and they may have messed up over the Thanksgiving—not really messed up. I might have a carb day. I’m going to eat some sprouted grains and things like that today on my carb day, which I do now after eating this diet since 2005. The Cellular Healing Diet transformed and saved my life, but now I’m at a place where I can have that carb day, but sometimes, even some of our most—the followers, the “Pompa Diet” it’s been coined, the Cellular Healing Diet, they got—they fell off the wagon, and they feel really bad about themselves. So I want to offer some solutions. Actually, point them to our website, we’ve never done this before, on some of the articles they can read, and some of the things that they can do, and strategies that they can invest into themselves in the new year to help detoxify their body so that their cells and system can work, and cleanse the way it needs to so that some of that fat burning process, some of the extra couple glasses of wine you probably shouldn’t have had, you get that out of your body so that you’re feeling great. And you don’t have to feel bad about the past, but we’re looking towards the future today. And I want to point some of those things out, and I’ll pull those up, Dr. Pompa, for you.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. Go ahead. Pull those up, but Warren laughed there when he said the word wine. So Warren—oh, look at this, little girl coming up here. Little -inaudible-, remember her?

Warren: That puppy eats raw grass-fed organic food.

Dr. Pompa: Raw grass-fed organic and she’s got -inaudible-.

Warren: And that’s why she’s so…

David: This is Cosmo.

Warren: And there’s Cosmo.

Dr. Pompa: This is what people love about our Cellular Healing TV.

David: Look, I got Cosmo.

Warren: Yeah. I could bring my daughter in, but I don’t let her watch TV, typically, or very often. But since I’m doing this show and Rebecca’s out working out today, I am watching my daughter. And I rarely would use the TV to babysit, but right now, I could call my puppy, Tula, in, and have her come and sit in our lap. So maybe I’ll bring Tula in at the end of the show. But let me pull some of these things up Dr. Pompa, and we’ll talk about…

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. And while you’re doing that, I’ll say this. It set me up, obviously, for what we’re talking about here is that the number one thing that really causes cellular malfunction, we’ll say, that why people can’t lose weight, or even why people don’t feel well, have brain fog and lack of energy, toxins, toxins at the cellular level. And I know you go to your wholefoods or your health food store, and you get the colon cleanse, right, or your little box of cleanse. And it’s basically a colon cleanse, and you do your cleanse, or you do your little cleanse diet for three days, or whatever it is. I mean, come on folks. You’ve heard me say this before that true detox has to occur at the cell. My 5R’s walks you through that process. How do you detox the cell without fixing the cell membrane? That’s what moves things in and out of the cell. How do you detox the cell without raising cellular energy, which really is how the body is going to—the cell is going to have enough energy even to detox? How do you detox cell without raising glutathione, which ultimately reduces inflammation? How do you do it without methylation? See, I just walk through the 5R’s. That’s true detox, right? That’s what it’s about. I know it’s not easy. I know you have to educate yourself and read the 5R's articles, but that is it. If you fix your cells, you get well, but you also—what’s happening, really, is your cells are detoxing themselves. They’re basically able to take in the good stuff, and get out the bad. And guess what? Now your hormones regulate. Now you feel better. That’s why we’re here, and that’s what it’s about. So go ahead and show that graphic, Warren, because something happens when you were—here’s what happens. People who restrict calories, I said that you’re able to lose about 5 pounds, right? Of course, after you fail on the diet, and I’ll explain why it happens every time, then you gain the weight back. But let’s talk about that successful 10 pounds of weight loss when you cut your calories. What happens? Yeah. You lose some fat, but because people are holding so much toxins in the fat cells, right, that’s where you’re holding the toxins. It’s attracted to those types of cells. Guess what happens? You actually start to release the toxins. The toxins drive more inflammation, and therefore, we call it a rebound effect. So not only do you stop losing weight just because your metabolism is shifting, but there’s something else. The toxins from the fat loss are literally causing more inflammation, other health problems, typically, that crop up because you’re losing the toxins from the fat cells, and then, all of a sudden, now you’re gaining weight, and you don’t know why. Because you’re eating less, you’re pushing food away. You’re acting so good. Oh, and then, you can’t control your cravings at all, so now you’re doomed for failure. Then you give into the bread. Of course, it’s always the bread. Bread drives glucose levels more than table sugar, so it’s not just about the sugar. It’s about the bread. So Dieting vs. Detox is what Warren has in front of us. How to Lose Toxic Fat for Good was this article, and…

Warren: I’m going to show them. Sometimes that’s under Articles & Resources, Health Tips, and then you can search for our different articles. But one of the great tools we have—and I love this new screen share on Google Hangout. So you can—you go up here, and you hit that hour glass on the Search. You hit that, and they you type in, Dieting vs. Detox, and it’s going to popup right there. So you can type in these different things, and I’m even going to show you, Dr. Pompa, the article you released—actually Meredith, one of our key health specialists, trained from IIN, wrote some of your recipes and put them up for Thanksgiving. So if you’re having Thanksgiving like I am today, you’re going to want to look at those recipes. But here’s Dieting vs. Detox. So we typed in dieting and detox in the Search tool, and we click, and then there’s that article. And the info graphic—oh, and by the way, if you noticed, it’s snowing at drpompa.com today. It called for snow, so that’s what we have going on over here, if you noticed the snow on the screen. Do you see that guys.

Dr. Pompa: No. We’re kinda behind you, I think, because you’re saying things, and I’m like, “What’s he talking about?”

Warren: Yeah. It’s a little slow. Well, the Black Friday sales are really eating up the bandwidth today. So what I’m going to do, Dan, is I’m gonna, Dr. Pompa, is put…

Dr. Pompa: Just put that on there. Yeah.

Warren: Put that up there, and then by the time it gets there, you’ll be able to kind of explain what’s going on here.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. So I hope everyone can see that.

David: This looks cool. This thing is great.

Dr. Pompa: You like that, David?

David: Yeah.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. Something simple as that, you remember how many hours it took us, Warren? Just fiddling around with that, right? Fat stores toxins to protect the body, right? Your body has to dump these things in a depot. That’s like just like the way we take our trash out to the curb, and then it ends up in a dump somewhere. Otherwise, most disease, back in the early 1900's and 1800's, was really because of no waste disposal, right? It starts to buildup, and that causes disease to spread. Well, I would say it’s the same in your body. Your body has to put it, the toxins, in little protective areas. Well, I say it always makes its way to the cells, and in particular, fat cells. There you go. That’s even better. So there it is. I mean, it shifts it into those fat cells, and when we diet, there’s that 10 pounds. That looks a heck of a lot more than 10 pounds, but let’s say you’re really successful and you lose 20 pounds. So then it says when fat is burned, toxins redistribute throughout the body, exactly. Because you burn the fat cell and then the toxins have to be redistributed. So what they do is they end up being circulated through the body, and they attach to the cell membrane, which is fat, by the way, of other cells in the body. And what happens is some of those toxins could cross into the brain, cross that blood brain barrier, and now, all of a sudden, you’re wondering why you have these symptoms. And people don’t really associate it, or they just attach to other cells. And what they do when they attach to the cell membrane, it drives inflammation, and it just blunts the hormone receptor, and therefore, it causes more weight gain eventually. And then there you are on the right. The body reacts by increasing toxins by producing more fat cells. So, basically, your body has to deal with these extra toxins floating around. It’s driving inflammation, and then, so guess what? It starts to make more buckets to basically dump the toxins because, see, the body really just wants to survive. That’s what it wants to do. It wants to protect itself at all costs. So your body literally starts to make more dumping grounds. It starts to make more depots or whatever you’d call the places we bring trash, dumps? What do we call them, dumps? Is that right, dumps?

David: Dump. They’re dumps, landfills.

Dr. Pompa: Dumps. Now let’s look at the one below, okay? This is proper dieting and cellular detox. So fat stores toxins in the body, right? We got that. And then if you look below the arrow, it says cellular detox. So this time…

Warren: Whoops.

Dr. Pompa: We’re going to do some cellular detox, right? We’re going to do some 5R's stuff, so you better go read the articles. But the one thing that here is is the very simple thing that people can do is the IDS product. Now I’ve explained it in the past, but I’ll briefly explain it here. It’s a two part system. One part drives intracellular glutathione. That simply means, the glutathione is your body’s natural way of getting rid of toxins and inflammation, by the way, and it’s so important that it’s in every cell of your body, this glutathione. As a matter of fact, when it drops to a certain level in those cells, the cell dies. That’s how important it is. Okay. So most people try to take glutathione, it doesn’t work. Intracellular glutathione is the key. Even when you inject glutathione, which, Warren, we did plenty of that in the past, it still doesn’t get into the cell. This product called GCEL does raise intracellular glutathione. Then it forces these toxins from the cell. The problem is this. When they go from the cell, they work their way to the liver because the liver has to deal with foreign things, and then they bind up with something called bile, which ends up being dumped in your gut. This probably warrants a picture after I get through explaining this picture. And then the problem is is most of those toxins are reabsorbed. So that really brings up the second part of  that product. There’s GCEL and BIND sold together in the system of the Intracellular Detox System, IDS, Intracellular Detox System. IDS, so one part pushes it from the cell. The other part grabs it in the gut as a binding agent and pulls it out. It’s a three part system that Warren and I created. That we really own the rights to that, I mean, we really have created that system, and raising intracellular glutathione and grabbing it in the gut. And this product is our third generation product. So very, very advanced and we worked with some really bright biochemists in creating that third generation product.

Warren: Yeah. Dr. Shayne was able to help us take that to the next level, and we’re really thankful for the partnering with Systemic Formulas. Really, just creating the products, so that we can do what we do best, which is educate the world. So I love it, Dr. Pompa. That product, just so you know, I did some stats, end of the year, and that is our #1 selling product, and it’s a #1 selling product for a reason. It works. It makes a difference in people’s lives, and they lose weight, and it’s a great place to start if you’re watching this for the first time and going, “Holy cow.” The culture is we all buy into the calorie restriction. We talk about it a lot, but we talk about a simple point that we say over, and over, and over again just so the public can be reminded that you cannot calorie restrict. It’s called dieting, and if there’s toxins in your cell, you’d be—watch some of our previous shows. But if your body can’t adhere the hormone to burn fat for energy because of toxicity, no matter what you do, how much you exercise, you can’t lose weight, and ultimately, you can’t get your life back, and be healthy, have energy, have that future that you want with your family, your grandchildren, the things that you deserve. So the detoxification aspect, true detoxification at the cellular level, is very key. Dr. Pompa, can I—should I go look at some other articles that would be helpful for people.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. Exactly, so let me just finish one more thing here.

-Cross talk- Dr. Pompa: We got into the details of how that product works, but the bottom line is this. You do the Cellular Healing Diet in combination with that IDS system, the Intracellular Detox System, and your result is going to be different. So why? By the way, it’s the #1 seller because people utilize it and go, “Oh, my gosh. It’s like I lose weight. My brain works better. I feel better in my energy.” It’s because it’s a real product. If you look at the ingredients in there, that product’s a Ferrari or a Lamborghini. Because we use all active ingredients, the nutrients in there are designed to penetrate an inflamed cell. So they’re the active ingredient, very, very expensive ingredients. I always say that the GCEL alone—I call it the multi-vitamin of the future because most people get sick not because of the lack of vitamins. They get sick of because of inflammation. They get sick because of the lack of glutathione in a cell, and now the cell can’t detox. That product is so darn important. It should be on the shelf of everybody in America because we are exposed to so many different toxins. So GCEL, if you went downstairs—we did that once, and GCEL, you saw it in my cabinet. There’s probably three bottles down there right now because my family takes it. So GCEL, really important and when you combined it with the BIND product, which makes up IDS, therefore, you don’t reabsorb or auto-intoxicate. By the way, that’s what so many people do. When they detox, you’re reabsorbing the toxins. So that’s really where the brilliance is, the diet, that product, a very, very simple place to start. You want to take it to the next level? Then you read the 5R's articles, and you’ll see some other products that support cellular healing. So Warren, go ahead, and maybe you can show some of those other articles, like you said.

Warren: I’m going to go to our home page here because I want to show you the most recent article. For those that are doing Thanksgiving or want to include some of the healthy recipes on how to eat well, there it is. It’ll come up. So you went on Dr. Pompa’s Thanksgiving. Even though in the article he did eat out this year with his family, these are some of the recipes we’ve used in the past, and then the Bone Broth.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. It was a place that makes the most amazing healthy food, by the way.

Warren: Yeah. It does. It’s organic. It’s…

Dr. Pompa: Organic, it’s like brainless everything. It was incredible.

Warren: So here’s—this was on the front page today. So if you’re watching this or you want to put something in your recipe book for next year, Thanksgiving Meal Ideas for a Healthy Body. That’s right on the main site today, so if you typed in Thanksgiving—but we’re having Thanksgiving today, and we’re going to use some of these recipes. We didn’t just buy an Amish turkey because Amish, although there’s a natural thing to them—I don’t want to—and a lot of them do have natural products, but in the marketing of Amish, they use GMO grain. We know some people that work with Amish, and they do use GMO grain. They buy GMO grain. They also spray pesticides and herbicides. So just because you have an Amish turkey, guys, doesn’t mean that it’s healthy. So not to take away, you may know the farmers and know that they don’t use that stuff, but again, if it doesn’t say non-GMO, if it’s not—well, where it says organic. If it’s organic, it has to be non-GMO. Make sure you do that. You don’t—you have to stay away from the GMO guys, huge. Some of other things on here, we have Stevia sweetened cranberry-orange sauce, loaded with antioxidants. We’re serving that today. I actually got to squish that up for today. There’s a arugula salad, organic coffee. Huge, coffee holds a lot of pesticides which, Dr. Pompa, causes that cellular inflammation, and could be why you’re weight loss resistant. Pesticides are a major cause of inflammation. So a lot of healthy fats, coconut oil, you can go right through here, and then the recipe, Cellular Healing Diet Bread Loaf. So this is actually no grains, no sugar. Cellular Healing Bread Loaf, their recipe, Grass-fed Bone Marrow Butter, another major hit really hitting the natural organic world right now and wellness movement, the Cranberry Orange-Sauce, which we did, the Classic Pumpkin Pie. We did Chelsea’s Cheesecake, which is one of the Cellular Healing Diet recipes. That’s what we did for today. At least my wife did, and so there’s that. And we also have a lot of other recipes that are good for not having—creating health and not stealing health from your body. So if you go over Articles & Resources and—well, maybe not. Where is…

David: All I can say is I’m getting hungry.

Warren: Yeah. It’s good stuff. So I know that there’s our recipes…

Dr. Pompa: You know what’s on my stove right now? I did a fast yesterday with bone broth through the day, and then I ate my big meal at night, right? But I did bone broth. Warren, show them this collagen product that we have because I’m really impressed with it actually. It’s a great amino acid source. So what I did yesterday, you all could do this today.

Warren: It’s great.

Dr. Pompa: We made our bone broth. We got some fresh bones, and boiled them. I put some salt, pepper in it, really easy to do, and then I added this—some extra collagen stuff in mine, but I did something yesterday. I went out and I burst trained. So I just went in the woods, and I did probably just, I don’t know, 45 minutes of just burst. So I would just walk with the dogs, and then I would just run, burst, and then I did these leg things, jumps. So I did some high-intensity training in the woods yesterday, and then—and it’s probably why I’m going [clear throat] because I was working so hard. I was breathing—I mean, literally, I was breathing so heavy. And then I came home. I do that on an empty stomach because it raises growth hormone, right. It’s an amazing trick. I waited an hour, a couple hours probably, and then I came home, and started drinking my bone broth. And I put these extra collagens and gelatin, which by the way, is amazing for your skin, amazing for your recovery because there’s perfect amino acids in them. And then that’s what I did through the afternoon, and then I went and ate the big dinner. I almost said huge dinner. Remember, I thought I was going to be so hungry because I did all that activity and burst training. I guess, something happened. Like I said, my wife and I were both disappointed that we weren’t more hungry, and she did this with me by the way. So anyways, and then today I’m going to do the same thing. I’m going to eat all day. I’m just going to do my bone broth all day today, and I’m going to add the extra gelatin and collagen even into the bone broth, which, basically, it’s there already. I’m just adding even more. So that’s just something that I love to do. So I’m just kind of intermittent fasting like I always do, but I’m doing it all through the day. I’m drinking this bone broth, and I’m going to do that probably for the next four or five days.

Warren: Yeah, and I think they may be sold out, but if you go to Grass-fed Bones, you can get some grass-fed organic bones, grassfedbones.com.

Dr. Pompa: Oh, yeah, bummer. Yeah. It’s under—the product. I’ll run downstairs and get it here, and Warren can…

Warren: I’ll grab it for you. I’ll pull it up on the website, Revelation Health. Hold on one second. I do want to say this, Dan. Underneath Nutrition & Exercise, just so people can find things—and I think showing them where things are at, there’s a bunch of different Cellular Healing Diet recipes. Can you see that?

Dr. Pompa: Yep.

Dave: Yeah.

Warren: And then dessert recipes, and then some exercise. And the last thing I want to show them before I get off of this site is if you go to Articles & Resources, Health Tips, or type in Detox in the Search. But I want to show this to you. The internet, again, is really slow because of—but here’s another great article, and this is what I did today, Dr. Pompa, is I worked out this morning. Got my body temperature up and this is one of your protocols.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah.

Warren: And then I went into the infrared sauna to sweat out some of the toxins because Far Infrared is another great way to detox and healing. Is another great way to detox your body, especially if you had a rough Thanksgiving. Put it that way.

Dr. Pompa: By the way, folks, do you know what I did when I came home from doing…

Warren: And here’s this video.

Dr. Pompa: When I came home from doing that high-intensity training, I got in my sauna to kick in the sweating, and here’s a little trick that I do. So exercising before you get into that sauna is absolutely amazing. I do one other thing. I have a cup of dandelion tea, hot dandelion tea, right before I get in. Which dandelion helps detox the kidneys and the liver. So that’s—dandelion tea is known as the detox tea. You can buy it at any store, health food store. Then I drink a cup of that right before I get in, and it just causes—purges the detox, and you do that with the IDS system. And that’s what I’m showing there in the video, Warren. I’m showing how to use the IDS, its system, with that infrared sauna.

Warren: Dan, you just—I just gained some more knowledge from Cellular Healing TV. I also find how it’s better to navigate your website. So I learned because I act like a customer because I don’t come to the site. I mean, I read the articles, but I don’t actually navigate the site a lot. So I learned where to put some of these things for people to find them better. So my team—I’m actually texting our team right now to make the site easier to find, like, recipes.

David: I’ve got to say, though, your team’s done an amazing job in laying out the website.

Warren: Oh, it’s absolutely amazing. They work on it because our core concept is to bring uncommon solutions to the common people. These are uncommon things, so we have to do it above and beyond to reach the common people that are out there that may not know the truth. We’re privileged to know this knowledge, all three of us on the call today. Many of you that are watching us, we’re privileged. We’re educated and through education, we’re getting our minds and our bodies set free. That’s why we do this. There’s a lot of people that just—they’re doing the best that they know how. They’re still doing calorie restriction. They think detoxification is a colon cleanse, and it’s so sad to hear that because there’s real truth here so the Far Infrared sauna, awesome. You can see the IDS system in the background.

Dr. Pompa: Then see that ASEA. So folks, I took—I drank about 6 ounces of that before I went to workout in the woods, and then as soon as I walked in the door, my wife and I drank probably another 4-6 ounces of the ASEA. So I always use it before and after exercise. And like I said, I mean, obviously, that helps detox, which is a big part of it, but it also increases your cellular energy, your cellular oxygen, and it helps with recovery. And you’ve heard me say everything is recovery when it comes to exercise. So , but it also helps you clear the toxins. So that’s ironic that that was there because that was part of my little regime yesterday.

Warren: Okay. So now I’m going to go up to Shop, and this will take you to revelationhealth.com, and Dr. Pompa, what I was going to tell you—oh, my gosh. Yes. Black Friday sale today, 15% off store-wide, everything.

David: Woo.

Warren: Yeah. So that’s great. That’s bigger than other sites that are out there. I wanted to go big to attract some new people to try some of these things. So the things that are on our site, 15% off. Dr. Pompa, what I was going to say too is I—in my legs, you know my legs, Dr. Pompa, they’re big. When I workout, that’s where I store my weight, and a lot of it is water weight. So I, again, I’m a healthy guy. I eat, and I do everything almost perfect, 99.9% of the time, but I struggle there. And a lot of it’s water weight. And the dandelion thing is huge for me. To hear that—I was with my gym guy the other day, and he saw the sock line, the infamous sock line that no one wants to see. He’s like, “That’s water weight.” So I’m going to try that dandelion. Workout, dandelion tea, get into the infrared sauna, and see if I can eliminate some of that water weight that I carry in my legs. Now genetically, it’s just how it is for me as hard as I work, and I just wanted to let people know that they struggle with carrying extra water, and that dandelion tea, I’d probably shed 5 pounds of water.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. You probably will. As a matter of fact, go in with a t-shirt on and put a towel over your chair because you’re going to lose—you watch how much you will.

David: I wrote a note down on dandelion tea as well today so…

Warren: There’s Collagen, Dr. Pompa.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. So that’s what I added. There’s two different products. I used a little bit of both, but yeah. There’s the Collagen, and again, it’s perfect blend of amino acids, but Type I, Type II, there’s different types of Collagen that your body needs, basically. And it’s skin, it’s joints, and for recovery period. And by the way, when you make bone broth, one of the benefits is Type II Collagen that helps your gut heal. So yeah, that heals your gut. That heals your skin, your bone, I mean, your joints. And it’s just a perfect recovery tool because it is pure protein as it says up there. If you could spin the bottle, you’d look at the amino acid profile on it. It’s pretty amazing. And it really does…

Warren: Oh, my gosh. This team is on fire. They’re actually putting the front and back on there.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. So spin it one more time. That just talks about the—there. Look at all the amino acids, the Amino Acid Analysis, straight down, general analysis.

Warren: David’s all proud of our team.

Dr. Pompa: Just follow the instructions on it, warm water, cold water. I put it in my broth. So my broth was just a massive collagen experience. So yeah, great stuff. I mean, it’s just pure collagen.

Warren: Yeah. There’s another brand that I’m testing out, and it’s really good too. We’ll probably put that up there, but again, I did the same thing after my workout today. I did the Collagen Protein post workout. So we do the things that we do. Another thing that I did, the rose in my growth hormone, I took, I think, 1,000 grams of Glutamine, and then I took some the Amino Acids, by Designs for Health. And that’s all on our site. We carry—everything that we use, we put on our site. And I want to see if we have dandelion tea, Dr. Pompa.

Dr. Pompa: Yeah. It’d be great.

Warren: Dandelion Root Tea, is that—will that work?

Dr. Pompa: That’s the brand I used, right there.

Warren: Okay. So we do carry that on our site as well. I didn’t know that. And there’s only five bottles. There’s only three of these left. There’s only five of those bottles left, so if you want to take advantage of that, I would jump on it.

Dave: There’s actually only two left because, Warren, you’re going to take one of them today.

Warren: I am not. I am not. Dr. Pompa knows. I don’t take inventory unless—unless there’s only like—if there’s only one left or something. We don’t do that here at Revelation Health Store so anyway, Dr. Pompa, any closing comments? How was your Thanksgiving? Let’s just get back to the social aspect. Did you have a great Thanksgiving? Tell me about your family.

Dr. Pompa: We went around and we—three things that we were all thankful for. My kids—and it was fantastic. I’m going to be honest with you. I think it was one of our top Thanksgivings in the last ten years of my life. I mean, just the—and then afterwards, we went and we bowled, and it was hilarious. So the whole family went bowling. It was hilarious. Then we came home, and we played Balderdash, if you’ve ever played Balderdash. So it’s a game where you make up definitions, and it’s just an absolute blast], so that’s what happened to us. So we were very thankful. We had an amazing meal. It was very, very fun, and it was, just like I said, it was memorable. We had a lot to be thankful, and at the top of my list was my son, Isaac, who was skiing this year, and he hit a tree. It was in January so almost a year ago but not quite. And he hit a tree going about 40 miles an hour with his chest, and shattered his spleen. And I have to tell ya. Here’s the miracle, and I’ll tell it very fast, but we—of course, he was Life Flighted off the slopes. So I was sitting at church. Imagine that phone call, right? It wasn’t a phone call. They did one of these for us to come out, and your son’s being Life Flighted right now. And so I literally ran across a field to get to my car faster than I thought they could ride me through 4 feet of snow. I was soaked by the time I got there. We got down there, and of course, I was just, “What’s going on? What’s the prognosis, dah, dah, dah.” And it wasn’t good. He had broken ribs, crushed lungs, shattered spleen, and by the time we got the scan up and the doctor was looking at it was a Grade 5, which means it just shatters in a zillion pieces. They don’t even take it out when it’s like that because it’s gone. Basically, the body reabsorbs the pieces. And basically, I said, “Well, is there any chance of—there’s a couple little pieces in there?” And he, “No. It’s gone.” So my son would’ve been immune comprised, really, his whole life, and Warren was on the phone counselling me through this process. Believe me. It was very difficult. But let’s fast forward now. It was six months later, after my son was out of ICU and all that stuff, and almost died, so this is why it was my number one Thanksgiving thanks. But six months later, we go in for the scan, and the doctor comes out with this most puzzled look. And he was the head surgeon, and I said, “What?” I could tell that it was like one of those David things. Where the eyebrows would—“What? What?” And he said, “Well, he has a spleen. He has a full spleen,” and I said, “Well, is it working?” He said, “Fully functioning.” I said, “Well, how did that happen?” He says, “I don’t know. I’ve never seen anything like this before.” Of course, Merily said, “I know how. We had thousands of people praying. My whole Facebook group was praying. Everybody was praying. It’s a miracle,” and it was. He couldn’t explain it. So that was my number one Thanksgiving. And my number two was just a lot of what God’s doing in our family, and another one was just the fact that what—God has blessed us so much after a lot of adversity in our life, and I just see His promises unfolding in my life. And I was truly grateful for that, and just truly being grateful for what—just this—to be able to serve in this, and that was part of God’s promise. So that was my Thanksgiving. So there you go.

Warren: That’s an awesome—can you shoot a video with Isaac because I just want to document that. Twenty years from now, Dr. Pompa, we’ll go back and watch that video, and I know that we’ll be—have tears in our eyes, and will have many other miracles. In the Bible times, when there was a miracle, when there was a major movement of God where God delivered a promise, they took rocks and stones, and build a—David, you would know this more because you have more of the traditional Jewish background, but they took rocks and stones and build a monument or remembrance. And we’ll do it through YouTube now in the 21st Century, but a rock of remembrance of what God did, and how faithful he was in our lives. So we can go back, when we go in those hard times in the future, and they’re going to come, that we can remember how faithful he was because that’s an absolute miracle. I mean, if you knew the details of what the surgeon had said. There was only a piece left. They were hoping for a piece to regenerate, but the whole spleen, it was completely detached. There was no blood vessels, nothing that could’ve kept it alive in the body, and it fully restored, a fully functioning spleen. I mean, absolute miracle.

Dr. Pompa: People who are always claiming miracles, I’m always very skeptical of that, right? I mean, I’m a strong Christian believer, and I believe God can do miracles, but yet, I’m very, very skeptical of what people call miracles. And having witnessed that and seeing it myself, I’m very grateful. We’re grateful of all of you viewers, just the fact that we can bring—serve in this way, and just bring the knowledge that we suffered for, the knowledge that we have acquired over the years to you. We are grateful for that. It was part of absolutely my blessing and my thankfulness.

Warren: Well thanks everyone. David, thankful for you coming on today on a vacation day. And your family’s, actually—because your wife was sick, another sad thing for you, but your kids were off, and you couldn’t go with them because of your wife being sick. But she’s feeling better, right?

David: She is better. Yesterday, we went out to—our first Thanksgiving without the kids. We went out to dinner ourselves. And we’ve had some good alone time this week, and we’ll have it through tomorrow. And the kids are down with their grandma, but they’re having a good time.

Dr. Pompa: Come on in.

Warren: Awesome.

Dr. Pompa: That’s my little Simon peeping in there, so…

David: Hey, Simon.

Warren: Alright, thanks everyone. Have a great rest of your Thanksgiving vacation if you have off today. If not, have a great weekend. God bless. Thanks for your time. Share this with your friends, CellularHealing.tv signing off for another week.

Dr. Pompa: See ya.

David: Bye, bye.

41: Lyme Disease Testing

Transcript of Episode 41: Lyme Disease Testing

With Dr. Daniel Pompa, Warren Phillips and David Asarnow.


Warren: Welcome to Cellular Healing TV, Episode 41. My name is Warren Phillips, co-host along with David Asarnow. He'll be on in just a second. Also, a special guest today who will be joining us in just a few seconds. We had a little bit of technical difficulty getting launched today, right at 10:00. I'm launching, prior to them even getting on this call, but they're going to be on here within about 30 seconds. David's showing up, and Jay's shown up. Welcome to Cellular Healing TV, live, and broadcasting from Pennsylvania, Georgia, and I believe Jay is from Wisconsin. Why does that keep happening?

David: I've got to mute, I've got to go get my headphones.

Warren: At least I'm consistent when I start the Hangout. I have the Cellular Healing TV live webpage showing up. We do have a hot topic today, Lyme disease. Again, we can't cure or—a disease, because it is a disease. However, there is some great information out there on Lyme's diagnosis, natural solutions that can support and decrease some of the after-effects of that condition. Jay happens to be an excellent and focused expert on that because he has a little bit of a story behind that as to why—how he became and expert and didn't come through an easy journey. I'll let him explain that, but Dr. Jay, welcome to the call today. Thanks so much for taking time with us today.

Dr. Davidson: Hey, it's great to be here. Can you guys hear me?

Warren: Absolutely, can hear you great.

Dr. Davidson: All right, perfect.

Warren: Love that clock, by the way, in the background. That's an awesome clock.

Dr. Davidson: My wife's a clock person, so yeah, it's got that squiggly—we've got another one too, over our fireplace. Maybe, I don't know if you can see it, probably not. It's got where it's half hanging over, and it looks like it's melting.

Warren: Yeah, I see that, yeah, I do see it.

Dr. Davidson: Yeah, yep you can see it hanging on the shelf there. We usually had it lower, but then when you have a two and a half year old, everything changes.

Warren: Understand that, got my three year old. Yeah, well welcome to the call today. Thanks so much for doing it at the last minute. Dr. Pompa wasn't able to get good enough internet today. I called Jay last minute, and he was able to jump on the call. We had a little bit of difficulty getting the link over to him. Jay, again, thank you so much for being on the call. I know your time is valuable, and your expertise here is huge when it comes to Lyme. I just want to tell your story on how that—how you became an expert in this area, and some of the things that you learned along the way that we can share with David and I asking a few questions over the next half hour.

Dr. Davidson: Yeah, absolutely, well, it definitely wasn't something I set out to do. Like hey that's—10 years ago my goal is I want to be a Lyme expert, I want to know everything about Lyme. That didn't quite work like that. Usually that's—I mean that's God's, it always seems like it's God plan too is what you think you want, and where things end up going might not always be the same path, but obviously He saw it. I always got a big vision for everybody, and what really lays the purpose. It really started with my wife. My wife had Lyme disease when she was younger. They didn't understand it though, and they didn't realize it, so she's 32 right now, as long as she's not watching this. She's 32 years old; when she was six years old, she got sick. They didn't understand why, what was going on, six year old, healthy, until all of a sudden she was six years old. Basically, they gave her some medications. It caused brain encephalitis, her brain swelling, and she was in a coma for six weeks. Through the persistence of her mom saying, “Hey, you—really would like you to test for Lyme disease, I hear that might be a possibility.” The doctor's like, “No, no, no, no.” Finally they ran a test, it came out positive for Lyme. IV antibiotics started, oral antibiotics started when she came out, and then basically from there her health issues just got worse. I met her I think when I was 21 years old. I'm 31, and I've known her for 10 years. Basically, since then, it's been a journey of okay, why is she having health issues, or why did she have health issues? Then, what can we do to get her well? In that whole process of going everywhere, seeing everybody, doing everything, it's actually pretty exciting. We had our daughter about two and a half years ago, and things hit the fan. She just wasn't doing well, really sick. That's obviously—actually when we called Dr. Pompa and okay, Doc, we need some help here. We started going through protocols, and we started going through—and I think this is the most important thing to understand about Lyme disease is it's not just the Lyme. For years, we would just go after the Lyme, what can we do to kill the Lyme, how can we kill the Lyme? It's not the Lyme that's always the issue. It's all the other issues, plus Lyme. When you address the body as a whole, holistically, and really deal with all the issues like other co-infections, unhealthy gut, autoimmune concerns, heavy metal toxicity. When you address different aspects, then you can truly get somebody well. We ran testing, and I guess I'll just use our story.

Warren: Yeah, that's the best way.

Dr. Davidson: We went through some protocols and testing, but we ran iSpot Lyme Test, which became available January of 2013. As we're doing this right now, today, it's almost been out two years, the greatest test out there as far as Lyme, in my personal opinion. The standard protocol for doctors in the medical world, and the general, is Elisa Test, and then if that comes up positive, then they'll run a Western Blot. They call it two-tier method, which means they'll only run the Western Blot if the Elisa comes up positive. Now, a couple things I think all the listeners should understand is that that test was based and created as an observation method for the population as to who might have Lyme. It was never intended as a medical diagnostic testing method, but somehow it became the standard of practice. Of course, so many things fall 15 years behind and not changing fast enough. Anyways, so the Western Blot, Elisa is a two-tiered method. Then there's another company out there called IGeneX, which there's some controversy out there. I was just actually explaining this to a patient's parents actually yesterday. He's got Autism, Lyme, heavy metal toxicity, so he's got a whole gamut of things going on. I said there was the Lyme vaccine, I don't know if you remember when that came out, Warren.

Warren: No, actually as long as I've been in—I'm connected to this stuff, but I'm more the marketing side, and I don't remember that.

Dr. Davidson: The Lyme vaccine came out years ago, but what they found is they were basically—people were getting Lyme from the vaccine, and people were getting really sick, really harming people. They took the Lyme vaccine off the market.

Warren: How did they get—how did that vaccine get approved if they tested it before they went live with it to the public?

Dr. Davidson: Yeah, that's always a good question.

Warren: That's amazing to me.

Dr. Davidson: My—one of the things I always tell clients and patients and people I'm working with is follow the money. Big pharma's obviously got a lot of money. The food industry—we talk about, and I know you and Dr. Pompa and David talk a lot about Monsanto, and the most evil company in the world. I completely agree with that as well, too. The food industry's really huge as well, but there's just—there's a lot of power where they push things. Anyway, long story short is they took a couple active forms of Lyme, and they put it in the vaccine, and they injected it. Then, once they started giving everybody the Lyme vaccine before they pulled it off the market, when people had a Lyme test it would always come up positive because the bands, they literally took some of the bands from this Western Blot and put it in the vaccine, so everybody was coming up with Lyme even if they didn't maybe contract Lyme from a tick or other forms, but they just got the vaccine. Then, what they did was they pulled out a couple bands of the Western Blot, so the Western Blot became a little smaller in the classic, conventional world. IGeneX, this company in California picked up and said, “We're going to include all the bands whether they're in the vaccine or not because we want to know, do people have Lyme?” That's—it's a test. I usually don't recommend it because I think the iSpot Lyme from Pharmasan Labs, they're actually based in Wisconsin which is a hot zone of Lyme, Minnesota, Wisconsin, and also the north east. It's not just those areas. It's really found in every state in America, those are just really the hot zones. The iSpot Lyme is a great test, it's usually four or five hundred bucks, but it's well worth it. It will give you a number. When you get this number on your test, over 25 is positive, under 17 is negative, and then in the middle is the equivocal or—

Warren: Undetermined.

Dr. Davidson: Yeah, the undetermined range. My wife had this test done right after Leila was born, when things were hitting the fan. We were like, we've got to test. Actually, right when the test came available we ran that. She came up in that 60 to 80 range, I believe. She was positive, and quite positive. It was quite devastating. I mean, it was like, “Oh my gosh, I've had chronic Lyme my whole life, and now I'm having a hard time even caring for my child. My body can't recover.” What was interesting was this year we were part of a research—I do some research for neuroscience for Pharmasan Labs as well. I had a bunch of clients do the iSpot Lyme with this research. It was back in May when I gave it to my wife. I'm like, “Hey, you're going to be part of the research group.” We got the iSpot Lyme back, and actually just got it back recently because they don't usually release things right away when it's the research, and there were some other things that they were doing, but guess what number came back for my wife? This was May of '14. Literally, just over a year later, we'd actually started healing the gut, and we started heavy metal detoxing, when we started going after the Lyme and understanding the different forms which you can get into as well, if we've got time for it. Guess what number came back, Warren?

Warren: Over 25.

Dr. Davidson: Zero, the actual number was a zero.

David: Zero?

Dr. Davidson: Yes, a zero, yeah. Under 17 is negative, a zero is completely undetectable. Needless to say, that was a good day when we saw that.

Warren: Earlier, when she first did the iSpot Lyme, it was—where was she at?

Dr. Davidson: Yeah, I can't remember the exact number, but I know it was within that 60 to 80 range. That's always one of the problems when you see a lot of people in the Lyme world, and you see a lot of tests, you're like the exact number. I know it's in the 60 to 80 range, and I've actually had people, I've had people that came up plus 400, or greater than 400. I got a call from the actual lab head creator of this, and he was like, “This isn't Lyme season. What did—who did you test this on, and who is this?” That's a rare case where you get off the chart. Usually, in that 30 to 50, sometimes 60 range, and then the higher you go the more acute it is, typically.

Warren: I was going to say, gut reaction, that it was in that grey area just to complicate your life a little bit so God would challenge you to go to the next level in helping people. It actually confirms that what you were doing was absolutely making a massive difference in people's lives, and it was right at home. I know that you have—we've talked about this story, and I've seen you in tears over it. It's not an easy story for those of you watching this that are seeking Lyme solutions, and have suffered along with your spouse, child. The debilitating pain, not being able to get out of bed, the lost jobs, just everything that's lost. That's the whole point of bringing truth, real answers to people that are out there searching for them, that are ready for them because there is some real answers out there and it's a little bit different. We operate differently than the medical model. The medical model has a lot of value, however they are not in the business of—they're more in symptom prevention. Again, antibiotics, there's a time and a place for it, and there is a time and a place, correct, Jay, with Lyme. Of course that's through the medical doctor. Typically what happens, you get a Lyme bite, you get the tests run. If you don't—if it doesn't hit it at the right time, Jay, you can talk about that, but you might come up negative, and you are positive and it just didn't catch it, or you come up positive and they put you on antibiotics. They use the standard protocol. It might not be a medical doctor or a health expert that knows the correct protocol because there's many different ones out there. It's not—you don't stay on it long enough, or there's a co-infection or some of the other things where your immune system doesn't respond properly. It doesn't work, and it comes back. Then, you're really in a bad place. I had a—to tell you this story that I was sitting—again, a lot of things happen. I'm playing with Dr. Pompa, it happens to me too. I'm sitting next to this guy, and he got bit by a Lyme, long story short.

David: He got bit by a tick.

Warren: By a tick, yeah, bit by a Lyme. David, you got bit by a tick. I think we had this talk, and I think Jay may have been on it on his first time in. We're going full circle. This guy got bit by a tick, contracted Lyme, it didn't show up positive, but he continually got sick. He had to go to three to four medical doctors, finally, begging them, he was giving them books about Lyme disease. He said, “Look, I know it doesn't show this, but I have all the symptoms, and I have Lyme, would you please give me the Doxycycline at this rate..” Finally the doctor's—one doctor kicked him out as a patient, an M.D., and the next one said look, he was open to it, he did it, and his symptoms went away. He was self-helping himself because he wasn't able to get the answer that he needed, and wasn't able to find that truth, and a lot of the things that you do and we do in HCF, and Jay being one of the head people when it comes to helping people move through natural solutions to supporting and helping out Lyme Disease, David's on the forefront of it. Dr. Jay Davidson, I call him Dr. David.

David: Not me, I just play one on Cellular Healing TV.

Warren: Yeah, you do, always. David, this is a pretty hot topic, and it even hit you when you had your little Lyme tick bite here at the office.

David: My tick exposure.

Warren: Yeah, so let's fast that forward. Your wife went through that same process, still had contracted Lyme. However, you guys get married and the story continues.

Dr. Davidson: Yeah, so actually just backing up just a bit now that you're reminding me of this. I can even see my lips are a little chapped this morning. It's about 10 degrees outside and it's not even Thanksgiving yet around here. That will happen too when you have to talk for many hours this week. It's been a busy week. When she—the reason why they didn't think Lyme when she was younger is she never—they never found a tick. They never knew she got bit by a tick, and she never had a bulls-eye rash. The bulls-eye rash is really that indicator in the symptomatology, or really that physical examination. When you look at somebody, hey, I've got the bulls-eye rash where it's a circle with the little thing, little circle in the middle. It reminds me of the Target retail store logo. That bulls-eye rash, that's only present in about—research shows only about 30% of cases. She never got—she never even knew she was bit by a tick, and she never even had a bulls-eye rash which made it hard because if you get bit by a tick, and you see a bulls-eye rash, you know, boom, I've got acute Lyme, the classic treatment, antibiotics to kill it right away. While I think—I don't prescribe meds, I don't tell people to get one or off of them, and I'm really not a fan of prescription meds. I think in that case, having acute exposure that was just recent, and getting antibiotics, I think that might be the one time that I would recommend antibiotics from a professional opinion and personal opinion. It doesn't give the Lyme much time to morph, and to get into the cells, and to invade. That's just part of the complexity. Really, when you're dealing with the Lyme disease world it's not you're dealing with the acute exposure where you just got bit by a tick, and you've got a bulls-eye rash. Really, where you're dealing with is the chronic exposure. Most of those people became—they weren't diagnosed off the start. Then, later on, doing research, they're like, “Man, all my symptoms seem to be Lyme related or looking like Lyme.” Then they'll do a test, and then find out they have it. Now, all of a sudden, they're battling Lyme where they might have had it for two years, 10 years, 20 years, maybe even longer than that. That's really where people—that's when you need help. That's when you need to seek a coach to help guide you because you get lost in your own emotions. I think of—so my daughter, and you can even see right behind me there. That's Olaf, the snowman that my mom just bought for Leila, my daughter. You can tell it's a little last minute. I didn't get to pick up all her toys and things there in the background. I think of when she was younger, and of course being a natural practitioner, my wife being a natural practitioner, and it was about 10 to 12 months old, so she was almost a year. All of a sudden, she started running a fever. Of course Heather and I, we're like, “What do we do?” Of course, all these things go through my mind. What if she's not getting well with natural things? I mean, if she gets adjusted of taking natural supplements or eating healthy food, resting. What do we do? Do we have to go into urgent care? My mind just starts racing because I'm a new dad. This is new to me. This is my first-born child, and my only born currently right now. What I—I use this example to explain that in that time period you get lost in your emotions. Literally, the next day after worrying and giving her natural things and all this, and watching her, my wife's mother, Mary, Heather's mom called and said, “Hey, what's going on?” We told her. She was like, “She's probably teething, check her teeth.” Heather sticks her finger in Leila's mouth, and sure enough, yeah, a tooth's popping through. The next day, she's fine. It's like, but in that moment we're thinking what if she's got the flu bug, or what if she's got this, or what if she's got that? You get lost in your emotions so much when it comes to yourself or your family members—

Warren: Even being a natural health coach, and seeing thousands of people literally in your life—I mean you've seen a ton of clients at your young age. You've probably seen more health participants and clients than most physicians in a lifetime just because of your large, successful, health and wellness practice. You see this over and over again. You've told other people, “Look, don't stop a fever,” all this stuff. You've talked to all the parents. Then, when it becomes your child, even with my wife and I, and I have a really strong constitution, mental constitution when it comes to believing that the body can heal no matter what. That's your philosophy. You're a chiropractor by trade, and that's the philosophy, the body can heal, just remove the interference. Yet when I went through that same process, Dr. Jay, I mean the fear was there. Less so than my wife, obviously, but it's the fear of the unknown. You do get lost in your emotions. We've made some mistakes along the way. Again, there is no mistakes, there's learnings. Now, we're just better equipped to help more people, but you're right, you get really confused. You're like—can your body really heal itself, or did my daughter contract Lyme, and was it passed on from mom? There's just all these unknowns, and that's where testing really comes in to help alleviate some of that stress.

David: One of the things, Dr. Jay—

Warren: Or sticking your finger right back in her mouth, that helps.

David: One of the things, Jay, that you mentioned early on is unfortunately most testing doesn't work. I think that's amazing. Ever since I've met you, we've talked about your wife and your story. I'm just so happy for you on the test results that you guys got back.

Dr. Davidson: Yeah, well and it's a double-edged sword too, though. Of course, if a test comes back and it's especially not only negative, but zero, what do you think? You think you're done. Oh, every—we won the race, everything's great. It's a journey. It takes the body years, Dr. Pompa talks about this all the time, seven years even Biblically, it takes the body time to regenerate and recuperate. Even though it's gone, there's still other things. She's still heavy metal detoxing, she's still doing some other things. I can tell you her health is just radically through the roof, and it's radically better because we're in it for the long term, and we understand it's a journey. That's the biggest thing with Lyme is don't just go after Lyme, understand it's the big picture, and go after the body as a whole, holistically, naturally, find a coach. This brings me back to the whole you get lost in your own emotions. Lyme has a few target organs it likes. When Dr. Pompa talks about heavy metals, and it's well-known in the research, mercury has a high affinity for your brain, lead has a high affinity for your bone. Lyme has a few areas it loves. It's a spirochete by nature, a spiral form, so it loves joints, it loves collagen tissues. That's why a lot of the conventional tests don't—aren't great. Actually that Elisa Western Blot, I forgot to mention this, 50 to 70% of the time when that test is run, it's inaccurate, which is—and that's what research is showing. It's basically worse than a coin flip. That's why I don't even like running that test because it just plays with your mind. Lyme loves the brain, which means it's also going to affect the cognitive function, the mood, anxiety, the thought process, the sleep, just your cognition on how you process things. It also loves heart, which my wife had a couple heart surgeries when she was 18 years old. She was diagnosed with SVT, which is called Super Ventricular Tachycardia. Basically, she's about 100 pounds soaking wet, so she's not a huge lady. She was literally just in her kitchen, at her mom's house, and all of a sudden her heart just started taking off, racing. Called the ER, and it's happened multiple times, but when they were rushing her to the ER, they clocked her at 260 beats per minute with her heart. Resting heart rate, under 100. I mean, usually that 60 to 80 is that typical usually for heart rate. We're talking 260, that's off the chart. She had a couple ablations. The first one didn't take. The second one seemed to work, but then it started coming back. It wasn't until we started doing these natural things, that that actually went away. Even after the surgery, she's had multiple other issues. Lyme loves the brain, it loves the heart, it loves the liver. Liver is that lifeline in the detox world. It loves kidneys, which obviously kidneys are an excreting area. Then, it loves joints. When you have the achy joints and stiff and sore all over the place, that's definitely more in the Lyme world. Thinking about—Lyme usually gets misdiagnosed. Maybe we can start going down this realm. If you suspect you have Lyme, or I would suspect you have Lyme if you've ever been diagnosed with an autoimmune condition like MS, Rheumatoid Arthritis, Lupus, Scleroderma, Fibromyalgia, which is pain throughout the body for unexplained reasons, that's the fancy meaning for Fibromyalgia. If you've ever been diagnosed with that, I think as a clinician it's important to rule out Lyme. Lyme's in a whole different world. It's known to be a bacteria, the borrelia burgdorferi, but it also can act like a virus. They call it a stealth pathogen where it can go actually inside the cell and be nondetected by the body. It can actually act like a virus. It's even got some parasitic type associations with it too. When people say it's a bacteria killed with an antibiotic, it goes—things are a lot more complex than that. Even from a research standpoint, they've found that as soon as you take an antibiotic, the Lyme from a spiral form will go right into what they call a cyst form, which is basically just a ball. It's about—that form is about 5,000 times stronger as a protection against antibiotics because it's not out in the environment. It's that little nestle down, hunker in for the winter, the snow storm kind of thing.

Warren: Then when your immune system drops, it comes out. I can go out there and multiply thing, correct?

Dr. Davidson: Exactly, it hides when there's danger, and it appears when there's not. Now, the best thing about this iSpot Lyme, because you might be saying well, oh my wife is zero now, but you say it's undetectable. The iSpot Lyme from a sensitivity in a specificity standpoint, it's 84% sensitive, and 94% specific, which means that basically if you come out positive for Lyme, there's a 6% chance of a false positive, which from a laboratory standpoint, and obviously this is going to be in your world a little bit Warren, with some of the chemistry and all that background that you have. That, from a lab testing, is through the roof accurate. I mean, just ridiculously accurate, 84%, 94% sensitivity, specificity. While there is definitely a chance that that test could be wrong, and maybe the lab made a mistake, I mean there's always that possibility. Really, the chance with the iSpot is very minimal. That's why I just—I really recommend—

David: Where—if someone wants to get iSpot Lyme, would they need to go to a practitioner, is it something they can get on their own?

Dr. Davidson: Right now, it's only available through practitioners. The more complex piece of it is not many practitioners even know about it, let alone are familiar with the use of it.

Warren: Let's back up on this a little bit. The question you answered for me, my—I don't know if you hear that beeping, but Google Hangout is trying to upgrade, and it keeps trying to upgrade me, upgrade me, upgrade me. I'm like, I can't upgrade right now.

David: If we get disconnected, we'll know you're upgrading.

Warren: Yeah, so, but anyway, I was just, I was going to ask you how accurate is it? If it is truly 6% that's huge for me. I mean because I know there's precision, there's accuracy, sensitivity, there's all these things, repeat ability. When it comes to testing, I ran essentially a laboratory in graduate school, and I'm very into those details. If it is—and it's approved, right? It's an approved test, it's a credited test, it's a credited laboratory, so this isn't a joke, correct? I mean this is a real, proven, approved test.

Dr. Davidson: Yes, yeah, this is a real test. As far as being a little bit of an insider in on some of their testing, working with some of the research, they do actually have some co-infections. They actually have all the co-infections done, but they want this to become the standard. I truly believe it will be in the next 10 years. It does take some time, unfortunately, with how CDC does it. In 10 years, I believe this will become the gold standard, but again I'm like, why wait? Will they have all the co-infections done as a company? The CDC is recommending that they only release two at a time. They're following the CDC's guidelines.

Warren: You have to do that, yeah.

Dr. Davidson: The CDC has not told them which—they're actually going to tell the company what two co-infections to release. That's why I think it's important to understand that the test is accurate, and they're following—even though it's so far ahead of the time, they're following the right protocols and procedures to make sure that in the future this becomes the gold standard, as I already believe it really is. I think it also goes to show, too, that there's a lot of stuff available, but some of it you can't use yet, and then others, too, it's interpreting it. When you're dealing with Lyme, besides the lab test, you don't want to just base all your information that, “Oh I have Lyme disease,” because you had a test come up positive. You also want to look at it from a clinical history standpoint, symptomatology. You want to look at all the aspects as well, too. What other conditions is somebody really suffering with? That's how I go about really identifying the co-infections. Actually I have a whole questionnaire that will have—because there's certain things like for instance babesia, or ehrlichia, or bartonella, or mycoplasm. They have different characteristics as a co-infection, and so just going through some symptomatology, it's typically actually pretty evident which co-infections, if any, are present. That's again opening up Pandora's Box, but Lyme always—when people are really sick, there's always multiple health issues going on, there's always other things that they're dealing with, and there's always multiple pathogens or co-infections besides Lyme that you're—really, you're dealing with. When you address them all, that's when your life changes. When you just focus on one, then you said, “You know what, killing the Lyme doesn't work, or doing this doesn't work.” My wife, for years, couldn't heavy metal detox, and then we started dealing with the Lyme properly, and heavy metal detoxing, and doing this dance. It was like everything just changed.

Warren: Yeah, because the heavy metals are a huge insult, especially mercury, on inflammation in the immune system. The very system that your wife needs to help combat a bacteria like that's produced, she needs that immune system. It's being so suppressed, she doesn't have help from the very thing that needs to take care of it, which is her own body. Not an outside hammer, necessarily, but internal hammers, internal things to break up and destroy that infection. This would be awesome, Jay, Dr. Jay, when this gets into as the gold standard, so every medical doctor at least has a better tool, and they're not being introduced to this tool. There's nothing—they're not being given this because they're definitely in the system that has to—they're the last people to really get it, right, in the hospitals and things because it's just a long process. When you're in the—on the cutting edge, and I mean there is definitely lots of medical doctors out there, physicians that have now become—they've seen a lot of Lyme, so they've become experts by seeing a lot of clients and patients time and time again. They look into it. Their hearts get interested. Something happens, something happens to them personally like it's happened to you. They start digging a little deeper and finding this iSpot Lyme. Right now, again, it's not the gold standard, it's not out there, you're not going to go to your local practitioner, health practitioner, and they're going to know about this. I'm sure they'd be open to it, and a lot of the times you want to get that diagnosis quickly so that you can come at it right away with your medical doctor, and work with your medical doctor to get on an antibiotic at the time and right season. It's good to educate yourself, and take your own health under control by watching things like Cellular Healing TV and sharing it so that you can prevent a lot of the things that your wife had to suffer though. It's deeply painful. If you watch someone go through cancer, it's deeply painful. I was sharing with my staff, Christa this morning, her boyfriend's grandfather just had a heart attack and it's wiping out her—obviously her boyfriend and their family, and the siblings, and it's just creating this big explosion. Now, heart disease, if you do the right things, is something that can be prevented naturally. Let's just say that, but because they don't know the right things to do, they haven't been on a show like this, and to understand that these things are—you can do the right things to make that a very small possibility in your life instead of making it one out of two people. You can fight the odds quite easily, but what it does is it wipes out, it causes a lot of carnage, doesn't it? When someone has a heart attack, when someone has cancer, when someone's diagnosed with Lyme, and I believe it's a battle, right? In Vietnam, they didn't shoot to kill, they shoot to wound. When you would somebody, it takes out three or four other people. Imagine—so when you look at this, when you're doing the right things, when you're on this mission, all of you watching this, Dr. Jay, David. This is one way we're transforming lives, through Cellular Healing TV is because when people know the truth, the natural solutions that actually help, and give life, and not take away—that help with supporting and can be hugely impactful in prevention, you're actually not—you're saving the wounds. You're saving the big disasters in people's lives that literally wipe out a lot of energy and value that they could be giving to the world. When you're not dealing something for 20 years, say a Lyme patient that's been sick for 20 years, and they finally get free, their production and value that they can give back to the world is huge. That's not to say—and the reason I say this is because I was taken out for about eight years where I was highly unproductive because of my own personal health challenges. It was one of my biggest insecurities is now I can't give back to the world, I couldn't be fulfilled—and it was taking out my parents because they didn't know what to do with me. They thought I was nuts. Say, “Hey, Warren, you need to get on a psychotropic drug, you're nuts.” Initially, in my marriage, it was very difficult because I still had some symptomatology. Honestly, I still have—it's a process, right? Like Dr. Pompa says, like Jay shared, it is a process of getting well. We want to share this truth, and we want to prevent a lot of the fall-out or the carnage of being wounded. Emotionally, obviously on this show, this wounding is physical because those things can affect every area of your life, and affect those around you. The neat thing about this, and having natural health coaches like Dr. Pompa, and Jay, and all the HCF practitioners that we have across the country, is helping bring that hope and helping coach them to a place where they're now able to give value in a time where people had to give value to them to help give them their life back. We'd like to give value to—through Cellular Healing TV, which is absolutely free, and that's why we want to share this, to hiring a health coach that can help walk you through this. Ultimately, they're giving you value, you're giving them value back. However, now, you're able to, through being coached you're able to go out there and add value to the world. That causes that butterfly effect. That causes the—what's the other term out there, paying it forward in life. That's what we're doing here, that's what Jay is doing with the information he's sharing with you today is he's paying forward what the answers he's gotten, by God's grace I believe, to find the truth, to be able to see his wife's life transformed, for me to be able to see my life transformed. I just want to give back. I want to see other people not have to go through what we went through. That's the heart and soul of Cellular Healing TV. That's why David and Jay took time today. That's why Dr. Pompa, who could have been on the call if he had better internet, he would have been on here every Friday to share this with you. Jay, any closing comments that you want to leave to the Cellular Healing TV, cellularhealing.tv audience before we wrap up for today?

Dr. Davidson: Yeah, I'd say, and this isn't even—this has not anything to do with Lyme, but just understanding that some of the worst advice you can get, bad advice, when you get bad advice it can be some—let me rephrase that. When you get bad advice, it can be some of the most expensive advice you'll ever receive, even if you're given it free, which really means that somebody that says, “Hey, you should do this, even if they told you to do that for free,” and it was bad advice, that can be some of the most costly things really that you go through. It's so important to have the right health practitioners, and really the right health coaches, and the right team around you, so no matter what is going on you can really seek help to really transform. I think—and obviously you'll agree with this, I know, too, Warren because I know Dr. Dan Pompa does too is really we want to teach people what they need to do to get well, to get their life back. If a trauma happens, or if some crisis happens, if I got sick—and I would say, again, I didn't realize I had health issues until I started doing what my wife was doing, then I got even more healthy and I realized, oh man, I really wasn't at my potential. If I ever got sick again, or if my wife ever got sick again, we would seek help. Even knowing what I know, I would still seek help because of that whole emotional mind block. I really encourage people just to continue to learn, continue to grow, and be careful where you get your information from. I question the benefit of WebMD.com being available today versus 10 years ago or 15 years ago. It's like, “Oh, I've got that? Yep, that sounds just—,” but I want you to be empowered. Just be a little on edge that what you think maybe in the moment might not be 100% accurate, and just to keep learning and growing.

Warren: That's the whole truth. It's not getting an answer online saying here's the herbal remedy to Lyme support or whatever may be out there. It's education. The type of health coach you want is the one that's definitely that, is a coach. Physician, in the Greek correct, means teacher. You want someone to teach you what's going on, what you need to do to create a lifestyle of wellness to move through your health challenge. It's no different than if you hire a true wealth expert, you need to find the right one. It's having a good family and team around you. In business, same thing, having a good team around you that's there to support you because it's being taught. When I do anything, when I bring in a financial advisor, I want them coach and teach me, not just do it for me, but teach me what I know so I can understand the knowledge, so I can apply it in my life moving forward. Not just do it for me, but teach me. That's the difference that you do. You leave a legacy, Dr. Jay, other great practitioners that may be watching this, you're leaving a legacy by teaching them. Your words, and what you pass on, the truth you pass on will far out-live you because it will multiply into the world. You're looking for someone, a true physician, a true teacher. I don't know the Greek word for that, but maybe Jay does. I—yeah, doctor really is to teach. You are the greatest doctor. Whether you have the initials like myself or other practitioners, your body is the greatest doctor in the world. You need to trust it, you need to listen to it, but when things go awry, you need to seek some help to try to get you out of the place that you're in. The same level of thinking that got you into that is not going to get you out of it. You need a different thought process to get through that. Really appreciate you guys' time in listening to this. Hopefully there was a benefit on the Lyme side of it, and I hope everybody has a blessed day.

Warren: Awesome, thanks Dr. Jay.

David: Have a great weekend and a Happy Thanksgiving everyone.

Warren: Yeah, Happy Thanksgiving. God bless all, have a great week and weekend.