Bringing back this incredibly important episode because if you missed it, it's important for you to hear this. It’s said that 80 to 85% of disease starts in the mouth. You’ve heard me say that in many past shows on dentistry. I get this question all the time: what about crowns? You’re going to get that answered. You’re also going to hear about a word that I’d never heard of: biomimetic dentistry. This episode will be a game changer for you. You’re going to get a lot of questions answered about oral toxicity. Please share this show with anyone who needs to hear this.
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Dr. Paul O'Malley is a 30-year Master of Biomimetic Dentistry who is on the cutting-edge of rebuilding the teeth back to the specifications of Mother Nature. He is the inventor of oral probiotics and enamel-remineralizing toothpaste, IAOMT certified to remove mercury fillings properly, and has a record of over 10,000 veneers and over 10,000 dentures delivered.
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Dr. Pompa:
One of the things that I always say, folks, is at least 80 to 85% of disease starts in the mouth, and so this is a passion of mine. I’ve done so many shows on dentistry. Today’s show is actually something we haven’t really talked a lot about and that’s the dangers of crowns and something else that, really, probably most of you haven’t heard of, and it’s biomimetic dentistry.
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Dr. Pompa:
Dr. Paul, thanks for joining us.
Dr. O’Malley:
Sure, my pleasure, happy to be on the show.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, so I have to start there. What is biomimetic dentistry? I sure do want to tell—hear your story, but just give a little bit about that. We can build on it later.
Dr. O’Malley:
Biomimetic, it’s a fancy name, but it basically is broken down in two parts. Bio means life. Mimetic means copying. It’s the scientific approach to how do we reconstruct a tooth that’s been broken down? Rather than grind it down further and stick something over it, namely a crown, how do we rebuild the tooth and keep as much tooth structure as possible? How do we protect the precious nerve essentially? That’s the game.
Dr. Pompa:
Right, yeah, that is, in fact, the game. Tell them your story. I mean, you’re doing safe dentistry. I’m sure you started like most dentists is just doing regular dentistry. How did you end up here?
Dr. O’Malley:
I’ve been practicing for a little over 30 years, so when I first started out, I was the traditional dentist doing a lot of drilling, filling, and reconstructions and trying to do the best we could with the tools that we had. Around 1992, I had a patient that had a couple root canals done under a denture. Thankfully, I don’t believe I did those, I hope, but he came back. He said, “My kidneys are bothering me. Can it be from those root canals?” I thought, rather than be so certain of what I knew that I didn’t know, I said, “I don’t know.”
Dr. Pompa:
That was a good response.
Dr. O’Malley:
Thank you. I said, “Let me research it.” That time I reached out to Hal Huggins, and Hal Huggins was a pioneer in safe dentistry and this whole thing about root canals and crowns and amalgam mercury fillings, etc. Hal said, “Yes, it can contribute, and it depends where it’s at. It depends if those are weak organs in the first place.” Then I went back to the patient. I said, “Yes, it can contribute to it,” but I still didn’t know what to do with that.
Over the next several years, I started studying about those things, and in 1993, I stopped—in my practice, I have the biggest practice in all of west Texas and eastern New Mexico. I told all my associates, I said, “We’re not doing amalgam mercury fillings anymore.” They said, “Well, the people are going to be upset. We don’t know about this.” I said, “Trust me. They’re ugly anyway. It’ll be an easy sell.” We did that at least. We still weren’t protecting ourselves nor the patient when we were removing them, so my journey began at that point in time.
Then we fast forward to about 1997. I personally wasn’t physically feeling well. I was ready to sell my practice. I just wasn’t feeling good at all. No idea what, went to all the different docs. Could it be this? Could it be that, tested for mercury, did the traditional blood tests, [00:04:37]?
Dr. Pompa:
Of course.
Dr. O’Malley:
Everything got missed. I said, all right, I got to take care of myself. Oddly enough, I’d had a root canal in my front tooth for about, oh, since I was 13 from a baseball accident. It had been reworked two times. I had severe sinus troubles that would come and go, and so at that point, I’d done enough research. I told my associate at the time, I said, “Pull that darn thing out of there.” He said, “Are you sure? That’s your front tooth?” I said, “I don’t care. I want it out,” took it out.
We cleaned the bone up. We put a temporary little flipper in there to replace it, and within four to six months, without even knowing how to detox properly my body started recovering and feeling better.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I see it all the time, Doc. I see it all the time, story after story about someone getting root canals out, cavitations, galvanism where they have other metals. They get it out, and their world changes. You’re right; it does take a few months. There’s a whole microbiome starts to change, but some things happen immediately and other things take some time. I’ll tell you, you’re right. You fix that stuff, and magic happens.
Dr. O’Malley:
Yeah, all the time. I had an 18-year-old girl that came in I recall a few years ago, and she had several molars that were really bad, including a couple wisdom teeth. She had chronic fatigue so bad she couldn’t get out of bed. She made it to the appointment. I looked at her. In those days, you would say—some people would still say—even though they’d think they could make them sick, or they weren’t sure they’d want a root canal, etc., I said, “Listen, in your case, go get those out, and I’m sending you to this person that knows how to clean the bone and clean the periodontal ligament out and get all the infection out.” She was another success story that was within 3 to 4 months she was completely back to a normal activity of an 18-year-old woman.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it’s funny. The Cell Healing TV right before this one, if folks could go back to last week’s show, you’ll hear a testimony of a gentleman who was mercury poisoned from the time he was—I think it started 13 when they put amalgams in. He had certain symptoms, and then here he is now, was in his 40s. All of a sudden, neurological stuff starts happening, strabismus where he’s seeing double, and they were going to do this surgery on him, for goodness sakes. Fortunately, he was smart enough to be like I’m not doing that. Then they said, “Well, we could do these coke bottle glasses.” He says, “I’m not doing that either.” He found mercury poisoning and strabismus. I mean, he had neurological stuff starting to happen in his whole body, his whole nervous system, but you watch the story, removes the source. We get it out of his brain. He gets his life back.
All right, so let’s talk about crowns because I find a lot of problems here. People have a lot of crowns, and if somebody’s not getting better, I often times—I get suspicious of these crowns. Number one, there can be mercury underneath them. Number two, there’s a lot of other problems, even with galvanism with these crowns, but you talk about some other issues.
Dr. O’Malley:
You’re right on the money with that. First of all, when you do a crown, you have to reduce and remove about 75 to 85% of the enamel. You’re basically destroying a tooth to—it’s almost an oxymoron. To rebuild the tooth, you have to destroy the tooth. Usually, the person’s coming in, and they have a lot of decay to begin with. The dentist looks at it, and it’s what we’ve been taught. If you go see a carpenter, he’s going to fix things with a hammer. I mean, you go see the dentist. They’re going to fix things with crowns because that’s what we’ve been taught. For 150 years these things have been around.
Then it depends who you go see. Someone’s going to be more conservative in their preparation, and someone’s going to be more aggressive. It depends on their philosophy and school of thought. My thought processes and also through the Academy of Biomimetic Dentistry—for your listeners and your audience, they can all tune into these different academies. That’s a great one, and it gives basic information. Also, a little something, I offer a free course. For anybody that’s interested, they can sign up. It’s FreeHolisiticDentalCourse.com, and maybe we can mention it later. Because I don’t have all the visual aids to go over things here, on those courses, there are about 18 small courses that go over all these aspects of dentistry.
Getting back to the crown issue, the first thing is it demolishes a tooth. The second thing is because it does that it strips the coating off the top of a tooth. The tooth is built like our head. We have this hard outer skull to protect the soft inner pulp known as the brain. In the tooth, it’s the pulp of the nerve, a hard outer shell, and then inside, and that’s the enamel. Just below that we have a softer forgiving shock absorbing type of material called dentin, and that’s hydrated all through little dentinal tubules. Those little tubules, just like if you have a straw filled with water, you can touch one end of the straw on the other end and it communicates. We’ve all played this little game as kids. Throughout that tooth from the nerve, there’s fluids, and they’re keeping it hydrated. It adds to the flexibility of the tooth itself. That gets pretty much demolished, and then one big hard block of something is stuck down over it.
Now, for years, it’s all we had. Today, with biomimetic dentistry, we have all the science behind us. They’re based on 15 and 20 year studies of the types of materials that flex the same as the dentin and types of materials that mimic the hardness of enamel. Envision someone comes in with decay. All we do is remove that little bit of decay. We can even leave half a millimeter of decay behind. We can seal around and build that part of the tooth up, and the body will then re-mineralize and heal that little bit of decay. These are huge paradigm shifts. There’s only about 4 or 500 of us trained in biomimetic dentistry.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s little.
Dr. O’Malley:
It’s sad, and we try to get the word out. Just like anything else, people are sometimes adverse to change. It does take a mindset and a little bit of a change, but any dentist that’s been through the program or courses, it becomes a game changer for them. It just enhances their life.
Dr. Pompa:
You made it simple. You’re saying, hey, look, all crowns are bad just because it’s smothering the tooth, if you will.
Dr. O’Malley:
You’re right. I love that use of terminology, smothering the tooth, encasing the tooth, maybe embalming the tooth. I don’t know. It’s very sad.
Dr. Pompa:
Is there ever a time where that’s all you have? You just have to do it? You’re not a believer in root canal. We have to do something, or is there always a way around it?
Dr. O’Malley:
There may be a rare instance where the destruction is already so bad that you’re going to be covering the whole tooth and building it up. However, it’s still ideal to build the tooth up on the inside with a more flexible material and put the outer part with the crown if we had to. The other time that we’ll do a crown in my office, for example, is if I’m replacing old crowns. A lot of the old crowns have metals under them.
Dr. Pompa:
Of course.
Dr. O’Malley:
They’ve had teeth destroyed under them, so we take the old crown off. We can rebuild that tooth and reseal it, so you’re actually making a double seal or a sandwich. You seal that tooth, and then the crown that you make is an all porcelain type crown. People can be tested which one they’re most compatible with. One of the most compatible ones is a material brand name called E-max. It’s a beautiful porcelain, and it can be bonded to the bond of the tooth. Literally, if that thing leaks underneath it, it can’t—you still can’t decay that underneath part of the tooth. It’s impervious to decay, so it’s a fantastic thing.
The bottom line is the minute we start getting into root canal we get into a severe gray area when it comes to the health of the individual. Anybody in holistic dentistry, holistic medicine that’s connected with holistic dentistry knows, okay, this is a real gray area. Will it make that person sick? Will it not make that person sick? We want a cause and do no harm, so the best way to do that is we test the tooth first. Does it respond normally to cold? If it does, I don’t care how bad the decay is. We can generally restore that tooth completely, and it’s going to last and be predictable for us in the practice. We find that with all the biomimetic dentists that are practicing this.
Dr. Pompa:
The cold is saying, hey, there’s some viable nerve left here.
Dr. O’Malley:
Yeah, life.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, right, you have nerve. You have life, right?
Dr. O’Malley:
Yeah.
Dr. Pompa:
Then there’s the subject of veneers. You’ve placed many cosmetic veneers, which can transform people, and it’s often times needed. What is the difference between a crown and a veneer? With the veneer, then you can somehow do it safe because the whole tooth’s not covered, or what’s the answer there?
Dr. O’Malley:
That’s right. I mean, typically, you’re only laying something over one surface or maybe two surfaces of the tooth. Let’s say, when it comes to a front tooth, it’s just barely laying something over the front and a little bit over the edge so they can get the proper strength. That’s minimal prep. A lot of times it can be done—you can do ultra-thin veneers. It’s harder on the lab, but it’s better for the individual receiving the veneer. It’s a little harder to block colors out with it if we’re changing dark colors, but it can be done. Then you’re not cutting through the enamel of the tooth.
I think a lot of this came from—in dentistry, for example, years ago they—they’ve been doing hip implants for a long time. When they first came out with the hip implants, they would—they were doing them on 70-year-old individuals. They would only last 10 to 12 years, and most of the people will die before it became a problem. Now people are getting them younger, earlier. You know all the reasons behind because of the diet and the Coca Colas and the sodas and the—all kinds of stuff, but they had to figure out a way that it could last longer.
It’s the same way in dentistry. The average crown is replaced on insurance every five years. The average traditional filling that is just a big glob of white stuff stuck in a tooth, they put the blue light on. They all shrink. Based on electron microscope studies, all of those shrink unless you do them in small layers, and it just takes time. The dentists are programmed to go fast. They don’t know this. If they knew that, they wouldn’t do it. I mean, it’s not like they’re bad people out there, right?
The whole bottom line is, even through the safe mercury removal, we want to take mercury out safely and do these things. You’re left with a hole in the tooth, and a lot of the safe mercury removal docs, they don’t know about biomimetic dentistry. They’re sticking big globs down their tooth, or they’re crowning the teeth, and now they’ve put that precious nerve at risk.
Dr. Pompa:
You have ceramic inlays now that are an option as opposed to putting composite in. Are you a fan?
Dr. O’Malley:
I’m somewhat of a fan of the inlays, but again, everything that we want to do in biomimetic creates low stress on the tooth. You can imagine, in an inlay, you have all these walls that this thing fits down into it. It’s like this precision key fit down into the tooth. Now it’s got to bond to each and every wall, so the minute you put it in there with the cement that bonds, that blue light’s going to pull that tooth in on itself. The flatter the design of the final restoration is the better. We call it a low C factor, C for configuration. We try to create a configuration that’s rather flat and low, and it’s not going to try to bind the tooth in on itself.
That’s also the beauty with the veneers. The veneers are just on one surface, not all the way around, so the minute we bond on there, it’s not going to pull against all the different bond strength. It’s going to actually seal to the tooth.
Dr. Pompa:
If the inlay then pulls in, what potentially can happen to the tooth?
Dr. O’Malley:
Again, you can stress the tooth. Inlays are notorious if it’s just—if the dentist just cuts out the part of the tooth and takes an impression and the lab makes this little piece that fits on, they’re notorious for causing post-operative sensitivity because they’ve strained the tooth inward. As the person bites on it, it hurts, so then they go back. They have their bite adjusted. It feels a little better. About six months later, it finally begins to go away. Really, what’s happening is it—microscopically, it de-bonds from the tooth, and now it’s relaxed. Now you have a microscopic leakage going. Because the dentin is not sealed underneath with layers of composite first, you have a nidus for bacteria to go in and re-infiltrate the dentinal tubules, infect the tooth, harm the nerve, etc. An inlay’s great if they put a base in and keep it flat.
Dr. Pompa:
Got it, all right, yeah, that’s the first time I’ve heard that. All right, yeah, so are you a believer in metal in the mouth at all, I mean, absolutely no metal?
Dr. O’Malley:
I believe no metal is the best way to go. The minute you put dissimilar metals in, you create an electric current. There’s all kinds of—you have the Chinese medicine with the meridians. Is it interfering with that? You have all kinds of things that goes—the body is an electrical unit anyway. It’s throwing an electrical interference in there so less metals the better. No metals, even way better, and now the challenge is with dental implants. Now the people are replacing their teeth, so we have…
Dr. Pompa:
That was my next question.
Dr. O’Malley:
Oh, it was? Go ahead. Tell me your question.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, what’s your feeling on dental implants? We’ve [00:19:18] them from titanium, which I wasn’t a fan, post that is, to ceramic. Do you do implants, and can they be safe?
Dr. O’Malley:
I do the implants. If you look at the Hal Huggins’s studies, all the implants—I mean, talk about a scary world. It’s all scary out there. All the implants will show they harbor some bacteria. You go from a potential root canal that can harbor bacteria to an implant that may harbor bacteria. There’s more studies that have to take place. Even the International Academy of Oral Medicine and Toxicology, which is loaded with toxicologists, MDs, dentists, healthcare folks, I mean, even they have not made a blanket statement to remove all root canals, always 100%. They’re waiting for more and more science. It’s a little bit of a gray area. The bottom line is, when it comes to implants, the most biomimetic one, let’s say, the most one that actually you can lay and it’ll flex like the jaw bone is going to be actually the titanium one because the titanium one has a little bit of [flexation] to it.
Dr. Pompa:
It does.
Dr. O’Malley:
Yeah, right, and so on the ceramic ones, they’re calling them ceramic ones, and a lot of your audience should know that these are—they’re actually zirconium implants. The periodic chart, chemistry periodic chart, it’s listed under transitional metals, so it’s literally still a transitional metal. What the heck that means I haven’t fully cleared up myself. I think it’s that it means it’s not a ceramic. It’s not a metal, but it’s kind of a metal. If it is, that means it could transmit some type of a current. The other negative part of the zirconium is it’s rock solid. There’s no forgiveness. That thing is so rigid, so I’m just watching those things.
In my practice, if someone’s zirconium, no problem, we have the surgeon that can do that. Otherwise, if they’re going to do a metal, they have to make sure spend the extra money. Get the good implants because there’s about 200 knockoff companies out there that are mixing all these different alloys. You’re not getting a pure titanium, and you’re not getting a really decently machined tolerance. They start fudging on the tolerance. It gets cheaper. I hope that answered your question, but on occasion, I’ll…
Dr. Pompa:
I was going to say, I mean, there’s some gray areas here we don’t know. You can get bad titanium. If you go with titanium, it’s still a metal, so there’s still potential negative there. The zircon, it’s potential negative there because it doesn’t have much flex to it. Again, I mean, we can—some people say there’s absolutely no current with it, etc., so there’s some gray areas there. You just have to do the best you can. Put it this way, all of these things are far better than the—getting the root canal or having, obviously, the infection.
Dr. O’Malley:
You’re absolutely right. I mean, that’s why I talk about the biomimetic with so much passion. For example, a lady came into my office last year, and she had been to two other dental offices. The one said she needed nine root canals. Another said she needed five. I tested all of her teeth. We fixed everything, basically built everything up. She’s had no root canals, everything with veneers that we were able to cover without ruining her teeth or grinding down the good part of her tooth structure.
It’s actually a miracle, and you feel good. I feel good as a dentist when I’m like, okay, I’m not opening up Pandora’s box by having them have root canals. I really watch it carefully with my patients. Are they sickly? Are they not? Is something going on in their life? Okay, we better do a Clifford test, the blood test to see what can they tolerate materials-wise, etc.?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no doubt about it, I mean, I had—when I was getting my life back, I had a root canal. Researching root canals, it’s not what made me sick. I’m like I may not get well with it, so it’s gone, took it out. I just was really unsure. I didn’t like what I was finding out with titanium. I found immunosuppressive studies, this. I didn’t go with an implant. I just went with a zircon bridge. That was years ago. It’s done really well. I had it touched up.
Again, that’s these areas of would I do an implant done differently today safe? I probably would. Back then when I got this done, it was impossible to get done safe. I mean, these are the things. I mean, the mouth is a very serious thing, and it has to be done right.
Dr. O’Malley:
I agree. Something else for your audience is that a lot of times—see, dentists are more and more trained. Now everything is implant, implant, implant, so a tooth can become a little bit expendable. They can build it up. They can put the crown on it, or they can put a big filling in it that breaks down. It ends up needing a crown five, eight years later. Then it needs a root canal. Then the thing breaks.
I know there’s people listening right now that this has happened to them, right? Then they end up and the doc says, oh, well, let’s just pull it and put an implant in there. Wait a minute. I just spent all that time, money, misery fixing the darn thing, so they’re quick to do that. Now, there’s another alternative to the implant. If you’ve lost a tooth between teeth, you can actually construct a bridge that bonded between the two teeth.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s what I have.
Dr. O’Malley:
That’s what you have, perfect. Then if it’s bonded, then you don’t have to whittle down the tooth, the two teeth next to it. Again, some people have a tooth missing here, and then they’ll whittle down both teeth on either side and put a crown over that to hold the false tooth. Now they end up with a sensitive tooth that needs a root canal here. Then they go, well, I better get that out. Let’s make another bridge. It’s a way to prevent that from going down, spiraling down is to look at these bonded type bridges. Most dentists won’t do them because they’re afraid their—they will break, but for any of your audience, if you decide to do them, you have to take a little bit of responsibility. You want something a little bit more holistic and natural. It won’t be as solid as a traditional bridge, but you’ll be protecting your teeth.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it’s just so many things to consider. I’m assuming you do—obviously, you do safe amalgam removal. You could talk a little bit about that. It’s not today’s topic. We’ve done a lot of show on this, but go ahead. I mean, you’re doing some good stuff here.
Dr. O’Malley:
Thank you. I mean, the safe mercury removal’s been a blast for me to do. The minute I started following the protocol from the IAOMT organization, which is probably one of the more renowned organizations in this arena, I started following them around 2003. Previously, I had worked with someone that had been through all that. Since about 2001 forward, I’ve been removing mercury safely for myself and my staff, the environment, and for my patients and so many success stories, so many wonderful things. People having buzzing in their head, their ear, electrical weird interferences and it goes away. By the way, just as a little caveat, it doesn’t happen all the time, but sometimes it does. We’re all happy when it does.
I was talking on another show. I had another patient when I was in Northern California. He had burning sensation, fibromyalgia from his neck down. I asked him, I said, “On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being the worst, how bad was it?” He said, “It’s an11. I sleep about ten minutes at a time at night.” I said, “Wow!”
He’s been all over the world. He’s a wealthy man, so he could go all over the world, a German guy. He went to Germany, went to the Mayo Clinic. He did all kinds of stuff, nothing—but he had a mouthful of mercury fillings. Through a healthcare practitioner who sent him in, was already detoxing him, I took out one side, got it all out safely. I saw him a few weeks later to put the little onlays in that are a little flatter inlays, let’s say, and bonded all those in.
He reported. He said, “Doc, the burning now, I only have it from the waist down.” I said, Wow! That’s great.” He said, “You think it could be from the mercury fillings?” I said, “Could be.” “Maybe we should continue.” I said, “Yeah, let’s go for it.” Then we got the other side all out. Then when he came back, the last report that I got from him, he only had burning in his—the tips of his toes. I mean, those are amazing, amazing stories.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, I have many of them as well. I want to caution people. You get this stuff out. You have to do it right. That’s step one, right? I put people on a prep phase even before the procedure just to open up their detox pathways, improve their cellular function and detox there as well.
Dr. O’Malley:
That’s fantastic.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, then we give them some things right before the procedure and right after. Even the best, safest protocol, you’re still getting some things that get by the barriers. That’s for sure.
Dr. O’Malley:
Absolutely.
Dr. Pompa:
Then the other key is is then once that this is done then we get—start getting that inorganic mercury out of the brain. This vapor turns inorganic mercury, and there it’s stuck, only to get a diagnosis. Many people’s symptoms, this gets better. That gets better. Then they get another diagnosis 10, 20 years down the road because the mercury is still trapped there, so you got to get it out, man. That’s where I’m trying to educate—I just spoke at the IAOMT.
Dr. O’Malley:
Oh you did, great.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, so it was part of my message is, okay, we’re doing this better. You guys, you’re doing a great job here, but you’re leaving it here.
Dr. O’Malley:
It’s a team work thing. I can handle the major source, but it’s so much up to the healthcare practitioners then continue this care. If they don’t do that, they’re going to get well slowly over time, but they may not fully recover, for sure.
Dr. Pompa:
Dentists don’t have time to research real detox. Look at all this information. I don’t have time to research what you just taught me, right? It’s critical. Most of them are doing the typical, the cilantro, the chlorella, the weak binders, and of course, they get sucked into all the scam type detox products. You have to do it right. You have to use chelators and binders in their half-life correctly. You have to use real ones, and you have to pulse them correctly. You have to support it around the correct—so much to it.
That’s my goal is to get more of you all doing the detox right or at least recommending the detox right. I mean, I have doctors trained in this—in these protocols around the country, so that’s why we got to team up. We need safe dentists, and we need doctors doing detox right.
Dr. O’Malley:
A hundred percent and I love that. Some of the things that I do is not only do I have the oxygen on my patients. They‘re covered from head to toe. People can go on my website, just DrPaulOmalley.com, and even I have some [Instagrams]. I show them covered. Then not only that, the rubber dam goes on. There’s what’s called a liquid rubber dam. I can place it around areas that I feel like could have some small seepage, so we do all that.
Dr. Pompa, I agree with you so much. If we’re working with the healthcare expert in this area, it’s so much better. Even the stress of the procedure can make them sick because they’re so loaded with this mercury that it’s like the garbage can is just spilling over. There’s no room for anything. I love that there’s—again, though, it’d be great. Actually, I’d love to have you come out here. I could put a few of the folks together.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, tell the people where you are. You gave your website, but give it again.
Dr. O’Malley:
Oh, yeah, I’m in Encino, California. My website is Dr, just D-R, PaulOmalley.com. The free course, I welcome them all to it. It touches on all these things. It’s FreeHolisiticDentalCourse.com.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s fantastic. Yeah, no doubt, I want to see what you’re doing. This is exciting work. It’s sad that there’s only—it’s like what I do. There’s just a few hundred of us around the country doing cellular detox the way we do it. Unfortunately, it’s the right way. We just need more people doing it, like you. There’s not that many people doing this work.
I mean, I think one of the cool things is you’re treating that tooth like it is. You’re treating it like a living organism and not this little—this mechanistic head of a dial, a wooden dial. There’s a nerve. There’s a life. From the nerve are these microtubules that feed in. Obviously, if you interfere with that, you’re going to have a problem that probably won’t occur for 10, 20, 30 years down the road. Is that what you see?
Dr. O’Malley:
Yes, 100%. When you grind a tooth down and put a crown on it, there’s some studies that’ll show there’s a 33% chance it will need a root canal within 10 years, so you may not see it now. Each year, it’s 3.3% chance, and it keeps expanding, whether it’s from it’s leaking underneath, the exposure. The only hard part about the tooth is the enamel. That’s the part that’s essentially minimum live, let’s say. It’s inorganic. It’s a really cool mechanism the way our teeth are. That’ll be the cool thing with implants in the future if we can regrow our own teeth, which they’re working on.
Right now, they’re re-growing them in a petri dish. They can make them, and then they’d have to implant them into a socket area. First they have to do a root canal to do it. They’re not quite there yet.
Dr. Pompa:
It’s interesting. The future of medicine is stem cells. In my show that I did with Dr. Gerry, we talked about cavitation and how they’re—we’re putting, well, PRF, which is essentially—it activates stem cell production in there so we don’t reform cavitation. For years I’ve watched people get cavitations done, and that was a great thing, or I should say decavitated. They went in and did the procedure. A few years later, they have another infection because it just kept—their immune system is low. They’re sick people. It heals over, and they end up with another infection. With the PRF, the stem cell technology is—it’s definitely a big breakthrough in dentistry.
Dr. O’Malley:
Oh, that’s great. I mean, I have a—one of the surgeons I use, he uses PRF all the time. They’re now able to lift—if a gum is receding, they can lift the gum up and place some PRF. It looks like a little Gummy Bear. They can wiggle it up in there and bulk the tissue out, and it’ll turn into that healthy tissue again. It’s so nice. Then they don’t have to graft it from the palate. It’s so much more comfortable for the patient.
Dr. Pompa:
I think there’s two big breakthroughs in dentistry recently, that and then the laser, which you’re an expert in too. Tell us about how you use laser in dentistry. I think laser in dentistry is a big deal. Let me tell you something. It made a big deal for me. I mean, I got laser procedures done. It’s no pain. I mean, as far as later, I had no inflammation, so there’s a lot of benefits to this.
Dr. O’Malley:
Absolutely, I mean, the main one that I’m using in the practice is a diode laser, and it’s a heat type laser. It’s for reshaping tissue and sterilizing teeth if we need it. Before I got heavily into biomimetic dentistry, I use—I’d use it all the time to sterilize. When you’d remove decay, I would sterilize with the laser because it’ll penetrate a good millimeter or so into the tooth, but now with the biomimetic dentistry, that’s all—we don’t have to do those things. It’s really nice. We don’t even have to blast with ozone or anything like that. The laser in my hands is basically to help clean up infected tissue without them going through a huge surgery. My gosh, nobody wants that.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it made a big difference. I mean, the old days, we would have to—you’re right, I mean, a lot of ozone because it was tough. With the laser, it really simplifies the procedure. I’ll tell you, like you said, the postop, if you will, is a big deal too. I’ve had it done with and without, and it is a big deal.
Dr. O’Malley:
Yeah, I mean, the laser itself, I mean, it’s beautiful. It has a healing wavelength. I think it’s somewhere in the 400 nm or something. Anyway, it penetrates. You can take someone that has a sensitive tooth and just put the healing wavelength on it for about 30 to 40 seconds, and then the sensitivity goes away. We found that to be a short-term handling and then a longer—and that’s a good short-term handling until you can get maybe some bonding to seal that area.
Dr. Pompa:
Right, yeah, well, I mean, it—dentistry, we’re talking about this topic today. Then there’s the pitfalls of fluoride. Then there’s the pitfalls of bonding. I’m sure you’re against both bonding—not bonding. I’m sorry, sealing, sealants that they’re doing on children, sealants.
Dr. O’Malley:
I was hoping you weren’t going to say bonding.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, no, I meant sealants. They’re sealing kids’ teeth to prevent cavities. I can see, obviously, the problem with that, but you can talk more about it. Then fluoride, that’s a whole ‘nother subject.
Dr. O’Malley:
Yeah, I mean, fluoride, wow, that’s like we can almost go into a whole show here.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, a whole show.
Dr. O’Malley:
I can have a friend, Dr. Kennedy, on that show. He’s one of the—probably the foremost experts.
Dr. Pompa:
I’ve done a show. I’ve interviewed Dr. Kennedy on fluoride. Folks, if you’re more interested in the whole story of fluoride, google—or not google but in the Cellular Healing TV, on the topic, search topic, put fluoride. You’ll find Dr. Kennedy’s show.
Dr. O’Malley:
Yeah, I mean, it’s an interesting thing. In 2004, the American Dental Association came out and said there is no systemic benefit to fluoridation in the water. Now, in 2009, I think, in the city of Los Angeles, all the waters of the municipalities approve putting “fluoride,” although it’s [hydrofluorosilica] that they put in the water, which is a byproduct of the aluminum and the fertilizer companies. When you look at the brilliance of things, it’s brilliant. These companies have this waste product that it would cost them millions and millions to get rid of it safely. They said, hey, let’s put it in the water supply and get paid for it instead.
The big thing is the ADA, American Dental Association, even came out and said no known benefit from it systemically. Okay, there’s reasons why on how the studies were flawed. We can go over that at another time. I’ll bet Dr. Kennedy goes over that, but the other aspect is it’s a poison.
Dr. Pompa:
It is.
Dr. O’Malley:
People watching this, if you have fluoridated toothpaste, it’s 300 times more potent than drinking water. If your small child gets a teaspoon full of it and they eat it, you got to take them to the emergency room because they can technically die. They have to get their stomach pumped, unless they’ve changed that now. Why are we doing that? Essentially, the reason that it can help prevent cavities—and it does. There are studies that show it that it does. It’s a pesticide. It kills bugs and it can linger. It can stick around the teeth and hang there so there’s a long-term effect. The only problem is we’re ingesting the stuff.
Mercury fillings, fluoride, they’re all funny, sadly funny things. Could you imagine, Dr. Pompa, if I had you come in my practice that we’re going to put a tooth colored filling in? Oh, by the way, it has a little bit of arsenic in it. It comes out a little bit, but don’t you worry. It won’t make you sick. We have some studies that show you’ll be okay. You would probably easily say no thank you.
When you look at the toxicology of arsenic, fluoride is way worse. Then you look at mercury. It’s up in the ionosphere in toxicity. You go, wow, that’s a sad thing that happened in our profession, unfortunately. I will say this, the dentists out there, they believe that they’re doing safe things with their whole heart because our teachers and their teachers’ teachers told them this was safe, and we honor these people. It’s a tough one to bring about, but when I first came here in, oh, 2001 or so, 2002, there was only a handful of us doing holistic and mercury-safe metals removal, etc. Now there’s several hundred in the area, so it is starting to grow.
Dr. Pompa:
It is.
Dr. O’Malley:
Now it’s up to your audience. If you decide who you select and who you’re going to choose, do your own research. Make sure they’re not just someone that did a little course. They put it up on a website. Make sure that that’s really their philosophy.
Dr. Pompa:
Believe me, I warn people. I’ll say go to the IAOMT.org, and you can find a safe biological dentist. I caution it. A lot of them join that organization just because they get patients. I say ask these questions. Many times it takes a few of those dentists to find the right one, so good.
Dr. O’Malley:
It’s so true. I just had a lady in the other day, and she went to—a year or so ago went to a biological—biologic dentist, an IAOMT, I think, dentist. She went in, and she had her mercury removed, no rubber dam. He did bring the suction up underneath, the big outside suction, and he had the high-speed suction, no rubber dam, no oxygen, no isolation. You just go, okay, I guess he’s just a member.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, doing the things that were pretty easy to add on, right? Some of the big things, forget it. I think, dentistry, obviously, it brings it full circle, love-hate relationship here. I love dentistry done right and dentists who do it right, but I’ll tell you, I hate dentistry done wrong. Why? I see all these sick people. I have story after story. I’m looking down at these files of just one story after another of just people who lost their life to this. I was one of them. It’s so upsetting.
I mean, believe it or not—and you’re right what you’re saying, though. I shouldn’t say I hate the dentist itself. I hate dentistry for deceiving the dentists because they believe that amalgam fillings are safe. They believe that these root canals are okay, and they believe what they’re doing. It’s not the person, man. It is dentistry and what they’re teaching, and it’s in every profession, I mean, honestly.
Dr. O’Malley:
It is. I think it gets engrained, and it’s so big. It’s like how fast can you turn a speedboat right around? This is like a barge, and it’s almost packed side to side turning them around to a different philosophy. It’s just taking some time. With people like yourself and others that are out there on the airwaves, the TV waves, etc., it helps raise the awareness. When the public goes out and they demand for this, the dentists have to go get trained.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, you know what? You all need to share this show with as many people as you can. Rate us on Google, etc. That helps too when you rate the show. People need to hear this, man. You’re right; the ship is turning so slowly. It’s like people watch the show, but if you don’t turn your other people on to it, the message doesn’t get out. We have to get the message out.
Dr. O’Malley:
Can I add one thing to the show? What I wanted to say is that to bring a little hope to your audience, those people listening, if you’ve had crowns, you’ve had root canals, now you’re aware. Those crowns, if they start giving you troubles, they can be safely removed. The teeth can be built up and sealed properly underneath. You have to find a biomimetic dentist that really does that and believes in it, and they’re out there. I have people travel and things like that.
The other thing is on the prevention side there’s really good news. If a person gets decay and the decay is removed ultra-conservatively, and then the tooth, the bonding that’s laid in is laid in with precision layers. It takes some time for the dentist. That’s a biomimetic restoration layer by layer. That thing will not leak under it, will not breakdown. It’s one and done. I’d like to say it’ll last 100 years, but we don’t have 100 years of studies out there. We know it’s going to last.
I have eight in my own mouth from the year 2000, and they still look brand new. I had the mercury removed, and they were safely built up in layers, no sensitivity, no issue, and they were deep. I experienced it myself. I see it with my patients. I see it with the profession. That’s a bit of good news for people. If you have your children, your family out there, they can watch this show.
The main thing is there are three things besides an accident and only three things that cause people to lose their teeth. My goal is to help people save their healthy teeth for a lifetime of great health. How do we do that? We have to analyze those three things. One is cavities. One is gum disease. Those are both caused from an out of balance that happens with the bacteria in the mouth, nutrition, all these things that you’re well aware of.
The third one that is a harder one to control and you just have to have a good dentist look at it is a bad bite. That’s clenching, rubbing, grinding of the teeth, etc. That can destroy the teeth as well and cause gum recession. It can cause the teeth to break along the gum line, and then you have no enamel there. There’s a lot of—people listening right now, you can put your fingernail in these little grooves along your gum line and go, oh, I feel these grooves. That’s generally from clenching so three things: gum disease, cavities, and a bad bite. If you have those three things looked at and you get them all under control, you can save your teeth for life. Again, you can visit my website and go on FreeHolisticDentalCourse.com for information.
Dr. Pompa, lastly, I never discussed this with you before, but I also have several patents on products that help rebalance the bacteria in the mouth. One is a patented—my patented formula, all natural. It’s oral, an advanced oral probiotic for the mouth. It’s real simple. You chew two at night when you go to bed. It doesn’t replace good cleaning and brushing and flossing, but it can put the healthy bacteria back. We were able to find out 2% of the population never gets decay, and they don’t get gum disease. We were able to isolate. What kind of bacteria do they have? They have a predominantly high number of a certain type of bacteria that’s in my formulation, so by seeding that back in, it gives them a chance to bring about a balance. Trying to kill everything doesn’t work.
Dr. Pompa:
No, that’s another issue.
Dr. O’Malley:
You get rid of the bad stuff. The bad stuff’s involved in—it actually helps detox the heavy metals. It gets rid of the junk in there, so the harmful bacteria play a role. When they get out of balance, they cause damage and destructive [00:48:34].
Dr. Pompa:
Let me ask you a question because the bite being the third thing and it’s so important. Number one, what are symptoms that your bite being off? Number two, do you do something special to make sure the bite is right?
Dr. O’Malley:
There’s a couple of things. One of the symptoms to know if your bite is off is you could’ve been to a dentist, and you’re getting recession with your teeth. The dentist says you’re brushing too hard. That’s typically not true unless you are brushing with a hard toothbrush. You always want to use a soft toothbrush.
Dr. Pompa:
You’re saying gum recession.
Dr. O’Malley:
Gum recession. Now, a little bit of that can be genetic, but if it’s there, you want to make sure that there’s not a clenching problem or a rubbing problem at nighttime. It’s easy for a dentist that has some understanding of the whole joint anatomy and things like that. They’ll check. You can go in and say I want you to check my bite. I think I’m grinding, and if that’s the case, they’ll make you what’s called a night guard. Something you can wear at nighttime. You have to make sure they can make you one made out of nylon because most people don’t react to that, and then they’re not chewing on plastic. They can make them out of nylon now, so that’s good news. Then they can chew all they want on that thing, and you’re not going to hurt your teeth. It acts as a shock absorber.
Oh, by the way, some people have asked me, well, why don’t I just buy that online or something like that? It has to be really precision fit. Then the dentist should adjust your bite to make sure it’s guiding in a happy way so that it’s not causing further joint trauma.
Dr. Pompa:
Is that one of the signs too is people can get clicking, I mean, pain in here?
Dr. O’Malley:
They call it TMJ pain. T stands for the temporal, around the temporal. You have the M is the mandible, and then you have the joint. You have TMJ. I know you know this. This is just for the audience out there.
Dr. Pompa:
Oh, of course, yeah.
Dr. O’Malley:
This is one of those things that if there’s clicking, popping, pain, ear pain—sometimes ringing in the ear can be a contributing factor. All those things are signs and symptoms. Neck pain, going to the chiropractor, you get adjustment after adjustment. It won’t hold. A lot of times the bite is off, so these are some of the things to look at. Visible things are a person can look, and honestly, we want to catch it well before that. They can start seeing they’re chipping the edges of their teeth, or they can see a little wear on their front teeth. That one you want to handle right away because you might be chewing all the way through that protective enamel, and once that happens, it goes—the wear continues fast.
Dr. Pompa:
Man, we hit a lot of topics here. Dr. Paul, man, you’re a wealth of knowledge. I appreciate it. My viewers and listeners, this is a big deal. This is a big topic. When I heard and saw what you were doing, I said this—we got to have this guy on the show. Thank you for being on the show. Thank you for the wealth of information. I hope people visit your site. I know they will.
Dr. O’Malley:
Thank you so much. I really enjoyed it.
Dr. Pompa:
Absolutely, so thanks, man. All right, we’re going to cut. Then I’m just going to do a—you can hop off, Paul. I’m going to do a prelude here to the show.
Dr. O’Malley:
Great, and Dr. Pompa, can I ask you a question? You might be interested.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, man.
Dr. O’Malley:
I have a really big passion prevention-wise to help prevent cavities and gum disease around the world. I have a company. It’s called Great Oral Health, and I have all natural products and things like that. If you’d be interested, I could send you some samples so you can see it yourself.
Dr. Pompa:
Please.
Dr. O’Malley:
I’m just trying to get the word out there. We’re a small organization, and we’re slowly growing. We’ve had these products out for five years. Everything I do I thoroughly test them, and everything is GMP rated companies out here in the US and things like that. The whole goal is to make it a global company because I want to handle this amount of decay that’s on the planet. The only invalidating point I came up with was, well, yeah, but Paul, you’re just one guy. There’s seven and a half billion people. I said, well, I’m going to try, so that was why I started this.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, that’s awesome. This is a big deal for me, as you know, so send me some products. My email is drpompa@drpompa.com. I’ll send you my address and let’s go from there.
Dr. O’Malley:
That’s great.
Dr. Pompa:
I’ll come out and visit you. What are you near? Where in California?
Dr. O’Malley:
I’m in Encino, California, so if you came out to LAX or Burbank, I’m not too far from—20 minutes from Beverly Hills. I’m near Woodland Hills.
Dr. Pompa:
I can make it out there. I had an inlay myself. I’ll tell you my story. I have such a dental story, and it’s a good one now. He did put an inlay in, and I did get sensitive, man, around the tooth. I guess now that I have to watch it because if it pulls…
Dr. O’Malley:
I mean, I have to see. If he first put a lining of what we call flowable composite, then you’re fine. If it leaks, nothing will happen. It sounds like it was probably competing with the walls, and it just de-bonded in one area.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, I’ll just say it was…
Dr. O’Malley:
[Ionics].
Dr. Pompa:
It was barely sensitive, honestly, and then I bit down on—I was chewing some meat probably too aggressively, and then after that, it was killing me. I think I traumatized the ligament.
Dr. O’Malley:
Yeah, oh, there’s no doubt. Not only that, if it was—I mean, that’s negative. The bond strength can be so strong it pulls the tooth on itself, and then you’re chewing down. Everything’s sore, and then, boom, it finally sprang back because the bond broke. It doesn’t mean everybody’s going to get decay. All I could say is that we know, every single globbed in filling, restoration, etc., they leak unless they’re laid in there with layers. Unfortunately, I wish I had a better story. What if it leaks? Are you at risk (maybe not because you probably have tremendous hygiene)?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, exactly, and if it does, I’ll get it done a different way next time. I learn everything, and I do things better. It is what it is. As long as the ligament calms down, I mean, it was just—it’s only been three weeks maybe, not even.
Dr. O’Malley:
Oh, you only had it three weeks?
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, a month. I’m just trying to think now. Time flies, under one month.
Dr. O’Malley:
Go and do a quick little bite adjustment with the thing. It may not be hitting this way straight up and down. It can be a little bit lateral.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, it’s not straight up and down, but when I move it, it’ll start—like if I grind, it’s…
Dr. O’Malley:
Yeah, that’s real easy. The dentist loves you to go back because then we can go zip, zip, and we’re like a miracle worker. It’s like, aw, that feels so much better.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, exactly, yeah, it probably is that. I actually took a little file and went er-er-er on a little part that I could see was hitting.
Dr. O’Malley:
No you didn’t. Did you really?
Dr. Pompa:
I swear to God, the next day 50% of the pain went away. I’m like, okay, I’m not going to mess with it beyond that. I think that is the problem.
Dr. O’Malley:
You know what? I had a patient that came in. This guy was 90 years old. He came in. He had a denture on top, and he had a denture on the bottom with a hole in it. He had this one long tooth. His eye tooth stuck out and was real pointy. He said, “Doc, can you smooth that down?” I said, “Well, I’ll try.” He goes, “I’ve been smoothing it for years.” He pulled out a metal file and started showing me how he was doing it on that one tooth so good stories.
Dr. Pompa:
Hey, I have a reason to come out and see you, so I’ll look forward to it. Send me that stuff. You have my email. It’s my website twice, drpompa@drpompa.com.
Dr. O’Malley:
Okay, good. I’ll send that, and if you come out this way, if you’re ever interested—I don’t know. Do you do lectures anymore or seminars other than the…
Dr. Pompa:
I do big seminars. I do two big ones a year. My next one’s in Vegas. I’ll have probably about 400 doctors there, so I do East Coast, West Coast. Then I speak everywhere. I spoke at Bulletproof. Dave Asprey’s seminar was the last California seminar I spoke at, but I speak everywhere.
Dr. O’Malley:
Oh, wow, that’s great. All right, well, good, hopefully, I get on your newsletter. I got a few of the young physicians and stuff out here, and they’re trying to learn. Some of them are just jumping into the IV clinics, which whatever, but they’re trying.
Dr. Pompa:
Yeah, you should come to my seminar in November, 2nd through the 4th.
Dr. O’Malley:
I think it’d be great. Hey, something I’ll throw your way. There’s an all-natural product. It’s called POTABA, P-O-T-A-B-A.
Dr. Pompa:
Never heard of it.
Dr. O’Malley:
It’s important enough, if you have a pen to write it down. It’ll cure Hashimoto’s.
Dr. Pompa:
P-O-T-A…
Dr. O’Malley:
P-O-T-A-B-A.
Dr. Pompa:
That’s easy, okay.
Dr. O’Malley:
It’s a PABA concoction, but it’s gotten through a prescription kind of thing, and the POTABA for sure worked. The PABA, through this one guy’s hands, he said it was not working with the same efficacy, but he’s been doing it. This is a 70-year-old guy. He’s been doing all natural kind of clinic for a long, long time. It’ll take people that have this Hashimoto’s and bring it down—bring their numbers back down to almost 0 within 90 days, sometimes 120.
Dr. Pompa:
All right, well, I’ll check it out. All right, we’ll talk, Paul, nice to meet you, and we’ll talk again, for sure. I’m keeping Matt here. He wants to go home, so let me record this little preview here, all right, Paul.
Dr. O’Malley:
All right, bye-bye.
Dr. Pompa:
All right, Matt.
Matt:
Okay, yeah, he’s off so go ahead.
Dr. Pompa:
All right, so let me get a thing here, all right. It’s said that 80 to 85% of the—let me start again. It’s said that 80 to 85% of disease starts in the mouth, and you’ve heard me say that in many past shows on dentistry. I get this question all the time. What about crowns? You’re going to get that answered, and you’re also going to hear about a word that I never heard of, biomimetic dentistry. Listen, this could be a game changer for you. You’re going to get a lot of teeth questions answered because we’ve been having so many because of the show that I did with Dr. Gerry.
This is a show that you’re going to want to share, and please, rate us on Google. Rate us on there because that helps and, obviously, share it. When you look at this show and the last one I did, these shows should really be put together because this is how people are getting their lives back, so check it out. Okay?
Matt:
All right.
Dr. Pompa:
All right, man.
Matt:
All right, have a good one.
Dr. Pompa:
You too.
Matt:
Bye-bye.
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